Wikipedia:Party and person

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Different content policies and guidelines use slightly different standards. One of the commonly misunderstood distinctions is between "secondary source" and "third party".

"Secondary" does not mean "independent" or "uninvolved". Most independent sources are not secondary sources.

What is a primary or secondary source?[edit]

Primary source material is original material, without alteration or interpretation by others. Secondary source material is based on primary and other secondary source material, and may include synthesis and novel conclusions. A tertiary source is one that is based on a broad base of material, usually secondary, without introducing new synthesis or conclusions. Many sources contain a combination of primary/secondary or secondary/tertiary material, sometimes all three. A source that is secondary in one context may be primary in another (e.g. a history book is a secondary source for the facts it reports, but a primary source for what the author wrote about an event).

What constitutes "original material" depends on the context. As a rule of thumb, if the document is dramatically closer to the event than you are, then it should be treated as a primary source. For example, any ancient manuscript will be considered an "original document" by modern scholars. Wikipedia normally treats century-old newspaper reports as primary sources for notability analysis, and sometimes for verifiability analysis (especially if covering something that could have changed or about which understanding could have changed, such as the causes of a war).

Person Simple cases
Primary source material
  • An account of an event, written by an eyewitness
  • Novel conclusions in a scientific paper or government report
  • Court filings, legal documents, and patents
  • Speeches given by politicians or activists about their views and goals
  • A technical standard promulgated by an organization
Secondary source material
  • A magazine article based on previous media reports
  • A book about a historical event, based on letters and diaries written at the time
  • A systematic review that combines the results of previous research
Tertiary source material
  • A modern encyclopedia or dictionary
  • A book about a historical event, based entirely on other people's books about the event
  • Most textbooks, especially those intended for children through undergraduates

What is a third-party source?[edit]

Further information: Wikipedia:Third-party sources

A third-party source is a source that isn't involved in the event. The third party is generally expected to be an independent, outside observer. It is common for the third party to be neutral and even-handed, but, in some instances, the third party may have strong opinions about the event. However, he or she takes no direct part in the event.

First party Third party
An eyewitness account of an event, by a person participating in the event An eyewitness account of an event, by a bystander who was not participating in the event
The inventor of a new device A subject-matter expert who reviews the inventor's new device
A press release from a political campaign A journalist reporting on the campaign
The website or other marketing materials for a company A consumer organization writing about the company's products

The second party in all of these cases is the audience for the material.

For some subjects, there are no first-party sources. For example, no one is an "involved" party in simple arithmetic or basic anatomy, so any reliable source supporting a statement like "two plus two equals four" or "the human hand typically has four fingers and one thumb" will be a third-party source.

For other subjects, no third-party sources exist, because the only people who have published information are the people involved in it. Wikipedia should not have articles on any topic that third-party sources have never written about, or have published only trivial, routine, or passing mentions; they are not notable.

Some sources combine first-party and third-party material. For example, journalist Rose Kushner's first book, Breast Cancer: A Personal History and Investigative Report, presents both the author's personal experiences with having breast cancer in the 1970s (first-party material) and information that she researched from academic and professional sources (third-party material).

Combinatorics[edit]

Here's how this combines:

First party Third party
Primary source Scientist publishes an original report about his experiments. Eyewitnesses at a house fire write about what they saw.
Secondary source Scientist combines data from a dozen of his own previously published experiments into a meta-analysis. Author uses eyewitness reports, among various other sources, to write a book about house fires.
Tertiary source Scientist includes peer-reviewed conclusions from some of his previously published papers when writing a university textbook. A database on house fires includes information from books and other secondary sources (and perhaps also accepts information submitted by eyewitnesses)

Doesn't "third party" mean "independent"?[edit]

A represents independent sources; B represents third-party sources. Some third-party sources are not completely independent because they have a conflict of interest.
Further information: Wikipedia:Independent sources

Although third-party sources are often also independent (that is, without a conflict of interest), it is not always the case. Independent sources are a subset of third-party sources.

Imagine that two large companies are involved in a lawsuit. An investor who is not part of the dispute may still have a conflict of interest, because of plans to profit from the stock market's response to the lawsuit. This investor is a third party, but is not financially independent. He (or she) may have a vested interest in the dispute being seen in a particular light, or being prolonged, even though the investor is not directly involved in the lawsuit.

Consider an election with multiple candidates. Candidate Smith gives a speech attacking Candidate Jones. A third candidate, Roberts, publishes an advertisement decrying the attack. Roberts is a third party—he is not attacking or being attacked—but he is not independent, because he has a vested interest in the situation.

Doesn't "third party" mean "third person"?[edit]

Further information: Grammatical person

Whether a source is first-person, second-person, or third-person is strictly a matter of grammar, not factual content.

Person Singular Plural
First person I walked across the room. We walked across the room.
Second person You walked across the room. You / You all / You lot walked across the room.
Third person She/he/it walked across the room. They walked across the room.

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