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Sonic the Hedgehog 2

Hey! I've listed this article for peer review because I'd like to bring it to featured article candidates soon. Before I do so, I wanted to get some comments to see if there's anything left to improve (OUTSIDE THE COMMERCIAL PERFORMANCE AND RECEPTION SECTIONS I'M GOING TO FIX THOSE. Just had to get that out of the way since I know every comment would bring it up).

Thanks, JOEBRO64 16:45, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Taking a quick look through the article, I think some parts suffer from WP:OVERCITE, such as the "gameplay" section. Like, does the fact that it's a 2D platformer, or that players can choose from either Sonic or Tails really need an in-line citation in the article? Anyone can easily verify these facts just by playing the game, which is widely available (it's the same reason we typically don't cite the "plot" sections of film articles). Even if we are going to cite these in the article, I wouldn't use the same source multiple times in one paragraph.

For example, in this part:

"Sonic 2 introduces the spin dash, which allows the player to curl while stationary for a speed boost,[1][3] and Miles "Tails" Prower, a fox with two tails who acts as Sonic's sidekick. By default, the single-player controls both Sonic and Tails simultaneously; a second player can join in at any time and control Tails separately.[3]"

I would deleted the number 3 citation from the first part. Just having it at the end would suffice. MoonJet (talk) 17:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

I don't think there's an OVERCITE issue. Statements like it being a 2D platformer and letting you choose between Sonic and Tails aren't WP:BLUE statements; they require refs to back them up. JOEBRO64 03:07, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Can explain why they aren't WP:Blue statements? Because personally, I think they are. MoonJet (talk) 12:23, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Citing the gameplay section is pretty basic MOS:VG stuff... JOEBRO64 02:36, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Well, I was just saying that because it's very easy to self-verify that it's a 2D platform, and that you can play as either Sonic or Tails, especially for a game as widely available as this. I understand having to cite things that are less obvious or open to interpretation, but not those. But if you still think they should still be cited, I won't go any further. I just wanted to put a few thoughts in. MoonJet (talk) 00:20, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Quick question, but is File:Hidden Palace Sonic 2.png a screenshot of the original Sega Genesis version of Sonic 2 (or one of its prototypes), or is it from the 2013 mobile release? This should probably be noted on the file description page. (Oinkers42) (talk) 16:26, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

It's from a prototype—I'm going ahead to note this. JOEBRO64 03:07, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

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@TheJoebro64: It has been over a month since the last comment on this PR. Are you still interested in receiving comments? If so, I suggest seeking reviewers from relevant Wikiprojects or editors who have written similar FAs. If not, can we close this? Thanks. Z1720 (talk) 13:00, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720: sorry for the late reply, but I think we can go ahead and close this. Not as many comments as I hoped but I think it was helpful enough nonetheless. JOEBRO64 11:05, 14 May 2022 (UTC)