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Tranmere Rovers F.C.[edit]

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I've listed this article for peer review because History of Tranmere Rovers F.C. recently made it to GA status and I'd like to get the parent article to the same standard. However, it's quite a different type of article (more lists, less prose), so would appreciate advice as to the best way forward.

Thanks! U+003F? 16:45, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm away until 4 July and probably won't be able to respond to any comments until then. U+003F? 10:41, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Ruhrfisch comments: Thanks for your work on the article and enjoy your time away. I think this would need a lot of work before it would be able to pass GA, here are some suggestions for improvement.

  • A model article is useful for ideas and examples to follow - there are several FAs on British football clubs at Category:FA-Class football articles and I would think these would be useful models.
  • The current lead is not detailed enough and needs to be expanded. The lead should be an accessible and inviting overview of the whole article. Nothing important should be in the lead only - since it is a summary, it should all be repeated in the body of the article itself
  • For exapnasion, my rule of thumb is to include every header in the lead in some way. Please see WP:LEAD
  • The GA criteria include broad coverage of the material - to me this seems too sparse and needs more detail. The History section is very short - since there is a GA history article on the club, more of that material should be included here - see WP:Summary style. I think every section in the History article should be represented with a few sentences here.
  • Article needs more references. There are some citation needed tags and the whole In popular culture and Rivalries sections have no refs.
  • My rule of thumb is that every quote, every statistic, every extraordinary claim and every paragraph needs a ref.
  • Internet refs need URL, title, author if known, publisher and date accessed. For example ref 6 (BBC) has an author listed but that is not shown here. {{cite web}} and other cite templates may be helpful.
  • The article should use independent third-party sources wherever possible. It is OK to use the club's website for some things, but more independent sources would be very useful. See WP:CITE and WP:V
  • Article has a fair number of short (one or two sentence) paragraphs which interrupt the narrative flow - wherever possible, these should be combined with others or perhaps expanded.
  • Avoid bullet point lists wherever possible - In popeular culture would read better as straight prose, as would the crest description.
  • The articler needs more images - I note that there is one of the stadium in its article, and a historic one of the team in the history article.
  • My guess is that there are free images of at least some of the players and managers mentioned in the article.
  • Please make sure that the existing text includes no copyright violations, plagiarism, or close paraphrasing. For more information on this please see Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches. (This is a general warning given in all peer reviews, in view of previous problems that have risen over copyvios.)

Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). I do not watch peer reviews, so if you have questions or comments, please contact me on my talk page. Yours, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 14:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)