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December 11[edit]

Robert Neale Lind[edit]

Robert Neale Lind ( Bob Lind) had a hit song that reached #5 on the charts in 1966-- " Elusive Butterfly" Wikipedia says that he was born in Baltimore, MARYLAND. Other sources on the internet claim that he was born in Baltimore, OHIO. Where was Mr. Lind's actual birthplace? ( Baltimore, Ohio is a small farmtown just outside of Lancaster, Ohio. I have a co- worker whose in- laws are from there and own a farm there)

Signed, just curious

Thank you, very much for your consideration in this matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.186.94.5 (talk) 03:39, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Someone (perhaps you) already asked this at the place which is probably most likely to know. As Lind himself, or someone who speaks for him, seems to have avoided the question and the details all over the web are contradictory, with the German language wikipedia disagreeing with the English language one, there might be little option but to go to the public records in Maryland or Ohio and finding out yourself. Of course even finding a Bob Lind born at about the right time would not prove he is the songwriter. meltBanana 14:28, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Primary sources aren't considered reliable. 99.166.95.142 (talk) 16:35, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Unfounded Addition Request[edit]

Hi; I have an old 45 RPM Record with Railroad Bill on one side and a song called Northbay on the other.

I've noticed something about Northbay. It isn't on the internet. At all. It properly belongs in the category of Nuclear Protest Songs, but it isn't in there either. With 6 billion people on the earth and 312 million in the US where it was released, I have difficulty believing I'm the only one out there who still has this record, but were I to make an article about this song I would have no sources to reference. Is there a provision for this and do you have any advice on how to find a source?

The inability to find a source does not stem from an unwillingness to look for one, I assure you. I can't even find a trace of the company that released the song; Wilkow Records.

If you could tell me if there's a provision for completely unsupported articles or give me advice on source-finding that would be great. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SomedayNeverComes (talkcontribs) 03:51, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Theres actually lots of stuff out there that was recorded and placed for sale which almost nobody bought. The population of the world isn't what matters, its who bought that record. You may not be the only person to have bought it, but there are certainly records whose sales number in the triple digits or worse, and such records may not be notable enough to have garnered any attention at all. The internet is a wonderful storehouse of information, but even the internet is not omniscient. Just because it exists does not mean that anyone on the internet noticed it. It feels odd sometimes when we find something like this in the internet age, but it is by no means unusual. --Jayron32 06:02, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
This is a good question. Wikipedia is not for non-notable works of art. However, depressing as that is, there are alternatives. Wikia comes immediately to mind. Also, you should be aware that even here on Wikipedia we frequently use as a reference published sources that are not online. Many of these are called "books" (you may have heard of them). In every sense of the word I know, a record is every bit as published as a book. I hope you find a wiki that will let you document the song's existence. —Aladdin Sane (talk) 07:20, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
You don't say who the record is by. Who is the artist? Also – and I'm not sure if this is the point Aladdin Sane is making or not – just because you can't find a mention of the record on the internet doesn't mean there are no sources out there. It might be mentioned in books or magazines. But without knowing the artist it's hard to say. --Richardrj talk email 08:40, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

meaning of song[edit]

One day, I was watching a rerun of Charlie's Angels. In one particular episode, there was this song called "If I Could See". (Apparently, the song was specifically written for that episode.) I was wondering what the song was about. Who has more information?24.90.204.234 (talk) 08:43, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

1980's TV Shows[edit]

Hi

I was hoping to find articles on two American television shows from the 1980's. The first one falls into the sci-fi genre and the only things I can remember from this show is an episode/s where people peeled the skin of their own face and ate rats and the show was called "V". The second one was about a guy with a cool watch who could dissapear or go invisable or something like that. I can't remember if it was the name of the show or the name of the character, but all I remember was the name "Sam Casey".


THANKS

PS. please don't tell me these articles already exist and that I missed them somehow! —Preceding unsigned comment added by NirocFX (talkcontribs) 11:05, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

V (TV series) for the first. Nanonic (talk) 11:28, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
And Gemini Man for the second. Nanonic (talk) 11:30, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
PS. these articles already exist and you missed them somehow.  :-) --LarryMac | Talk 12:39, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Grozdev, a Maxim Gorky character?[edit]

Is there a character named Grozdev in a play/story/novel by M. Gorky?--117.204.90.108 (talk) 16:10, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't know, but I think it's more likely to be Gvozdev than Grozdev. I've searched under both names but found nothing significant. We may need a Gorkophile. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 18:29, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
I think Jack is right. The protagonist of the story Ozornik ("The Troublemaker") seems to be named Gvozdev. The story was published sometime in the 1890s. [1] I couldn't find any free online translations of the story. ---Sluzzelin talk 19:51, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Here is a free online Russian version of Озорник. The protagonist's name is Nikolai Semyonovich Gvozdev. ---Sluzzelin talk 20:19, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks to those replies I might be near my discovery. People, please tell me what is the job of the protagonist in that story? Is he a compositor?117.204.88.242 (talk) 06:45, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes, he is a наборщик, a typesetter or compositor. ---Sluzzelin talk 09:37, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks very much. Resolved.117.204.91.131 (talk) 10:24, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Ray Charles Christmas Music[edit]

Can you give me the title of the Ray Charles song played in the movie "Christmas Vacation"? It is playing while Chevy Chase is in the attic watching home movies. Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.61.172 (talk) 18:26, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

imdb soundtrack listing for that movie gives only one Ray Charles track which is That Spirit of Christmas. Nanonic (talk) 18:35, 11 December 2009 (UTC)