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May 29[edit]

Update on toy boat question[edit]

Back in 2007, I asked about two children making a toy boat on Villa Alegre. I didn't realize I could've been wrong about that type of thing. I mean the segment I'm referring to could've been on either Sesame Street or Zoom . Whatever the case is, I tried looking on YouTube, but I can't seem to find the segment. Could anyone help, please? Thank you.2604:2000:1281:4B3:C8F7:551D:7C51:BD3B (talk) 03:17, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Can you find the original question in the archives? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:17, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Here it is; Back in the 1970s, I used to watch this PBS children's show Villa Alegre (TV series). On one episode, one segment featured two kids building a boat with wooden sticks and a balloon. When the let their project go, the girl leans a little forward to retrieve it. Next, there was a gurgling sound which might've came from the girl. Did she fall in and drown? Is she all right? Is my instinct right? (talk) 00:45, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Courtesy link: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2007 September 24 § Villa Alegre Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 17:16, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
I very much doubt they would depict a child dying on-screen. And if she actually did die, there would have been a huge outcry. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:28, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Alright. I still can't find the segment on YouTube. Could anyone help me, please? Thank you.2604:2000:1281:4B3:4CA3:7FDE:83D6:535A (talk) 00:14, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

May 30[edit]

Where to find how much money movies keep making?[edit]


This Youtube channel [1]shows how much money movies keep making after their release. Where can we find this kind of data? Is it accurate? Thanks. Ericdec85 (talk) 12:26, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ericdec85: hello! You may find this part of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Film § Box office helpful: Box office statistics can be sourced from dedicated tracking websites such as Box Office Mojo or, and print publications such as Variety or The Hollywood Reporter. Stay safe, Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 17:12, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
See also: The Numbers (website) (talk) 22:20, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
I've seen other videos by this YouTuber, and those also included home video sales/rentals, so the box office figures alone may likely be way lower. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:05, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


Reviews or analyses of portrayals of those with disabilities in Arata: The Legend[edit]

Editing—pressed enter too early. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 16:55, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello! Hope you're well. I realize this might be a long shot, but I was wondering if:

  • anyone knows of any reviews or analyses of portrayals of those with disabilities in Arata: The Legend? Those in WP:RS ideally, but I'll read those outside of RS to satisfy my curiosity.
  • anyone knows how to find them? My Googling has found nothing so far.

Thanks and stay safe, Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 16:59, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

May 31[edit]

Film characters whose names aren't mentioned[edit]

I watched the film Bumblebee in January last year. In the film, Bumblebee is being pursued by two Decepticons, Shatter and Dropkick. Only, no one ever says either of the names "Shatter" or "Dropkick" during the entire film.

How are we supposed to know the names of the characters even are Shatter and Dropkick? Especially, as this is a film based on a toyline, but neither Shatter or Dropkick ever appeared in the toyline, they were invented solely for the film. What's the purpose of giving them names in the first place? JIP | Talk 22:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

[WAG alert] There has to be some way to differentiate them in the script (Decepticons "1" and "2", for example, would be too easy to get mixed up), which may be where their names are specified. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:01, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Nada needed a name for the credit roll. If these dudes are CGI, maybe not. Were they toys after debuting onscreen? InedibleHulk (talk) 23:07, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Not that I know of. JIP | Talk 00:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
I see a Hasbro Dropkick figure on Amazon, $46.35 (and Shatter for $102.67!). Can't paste a link on this thing. Google it? InedibleHulk (talk) 01:30, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Both of them have had about half a dozen toys since the movie came out. But, really, their names aren't mentioned in the movie because the names aren't really important. They're just two random Decepticon thugs. --Khajidha (talk) 14:58, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Not important to the film plot, but quite important to the real plot. A hunk of junk without a trademark goes for like, $6.37, and anybody can sell them. But to name something is to wield the true Power of Grayskull. Like Dio™ says, "words have control" (even from beyond the grave, if peddling songs). Also helps collectors remember which hunks of junk they've already overspent on with a checklist. "Red and black Plymouth" probably describes a hundred "unique" Transformers. Also, nothing has ever been random, just happens for uncountable combinations of unfathomable reasons, so seems random to us foolish humans. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:00, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Did they look alike? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:15, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
No, they looked completely different. JIP | Talk 00:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
I see - and either way, the credits don't help because you can't tell which is which? Kind of like with Heckle and Jeckle. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:25, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
The red one sounds like Angela Bassett, apparently. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:29, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

How are you supposed to know? Presumably you are supposed to have seen it mentioned in publicity (such as talk show appearances by the stars) or fan-written material or whatever. Or else you aren't supposed to know, and they don't care if you do. -- (talk) 03:30, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Aye, if you don't have $102.67 to burn on a cheap fragile piece of plastic which couldn't possibly have at least some sort of redeeming sentimental value yet, don't even bother flying out for the convention, much less staying for dinner, attending the gala or passing out backstage with Frank Langella, poser! InedibleHulk (talk) 06:28, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Frank Langella is doing toy movies now? Eww wake me up in another 25 years (talk) 22:35, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Don't worry, it was 33 years ago (in real time) and he played Skeletor with far more maturity and humanity than he had any reasonable obligation to. It killed the movie studio that paid him, but it was worth it, see YouTube. Meg Foster nailed it with her "evil eyes", too! InedibleHulk (talk) 22:51, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
This Entertainment Weekly article, in an "exclusive reveal", identifies them by name and car model (Plymouth Satellite and AMC Javelin), and says Shatter "will be voiced by Angela Bassett." Clarityfiend (talk) 08:13, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Whom Frank Langella hardliners might remember as Linda Thornton from Liberty and nothing else. Transformers fans might recognize that titular character as this bad boy. Bumblebee, Megatron and Optimus Prime once partied pretty hard on her, it seems. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:41, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2[edit]