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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. (For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.) Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.

Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

  • Technical reasons may prevent a move: a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
  • Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
  • A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
  • Unregistered users and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.

Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will enact the request. If not, the request may be re-listed to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.

When not to use this page

Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

Undiscussed moves

Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

  • No article exists at the new target title;
  • There has been no discussion (especially no recent discussion) about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
  • It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with such a move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Requesting technical moves

If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct page if you tried to move a page, and you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:".

Twinkle now supports requested move!
If you have Twinkle installed, you can now easily make this request from the article. Just go back to your article, select XFD from Twinkle menu and then select RM (Requested move). Then check Work done! Uncontroversial technical request to make request directly to this page. If you however, prefer to make the request manually, read on:

  • To list a technical request: edit the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code filling in pages and reason:
    {{subst:RMassist| current page title | new page title | reason = reason for move}}
    This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
  • If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~.
  • If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.

Technical requests

Uncontroversial technical requests

Contested technical requests

  • Top Shop  Board Game Top Shop (redirect to Top Shop) (move · discuss) – British retailer Topshop was known as "Top Shop" up until the 1980s. The Top Shop name is more commonly associated with the mainstream retailer compared to the niche video game whose full title is actually "Board Game Top Shop". DA1 (talk) 01:53, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Requests to revert undiscussed moves

Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves

The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. A move is potentially controversial if either of the following applies:

  • there has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
  • someone could reasonably disagree with the move.

Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. In particular, use this process before moving any existing page with incoming links to create a disambiguation page at that title. For technical move requests, such as to correct obvious typographical errors, see Requesting technical moves. The technical moves procedure can also be used for uncontroversial moves when the requested title is occupied by an existing article.

Do not create a new move request when one is already open on the same talk page. Instead, consider contributing to the open discussion if you would like to propose another alternative. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.

Requesting a single page move

To request a single page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you want moved, without adding a new header, inserting this code:

{{subst:requested move|NewName|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. Do not sign this.}}

Replace NewName with the requested new name of the page (or with a question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). The template will automatically create the heading "Requested move 21 January 2020" and sign the post for you.

There is no need to edit the article in question. Once the above code is added to the Talk page, a bot will automatically add the following notification at the top of the article:

Note: Unlike other request processes on Wikipedia, such as Requests for comment, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Google Ngrams and pageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topics.

WikiProjects may subscribe to Article alerts to receive RM notifications. For example, Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Article alerts/Requested moves is transcluded to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. RMCD bot notifies many of the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or noticeboard that might be interested in the move request, as long as this notification is neutral.

Single page move on a different talk page

Occasionally, a move request must be made on a talk page other than the talk page of the page to be moved. For example, a request to rename Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources to Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing and templates would need to take place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation because the talk page of the project page to be moved, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources, is a redirect to that centralized discussion page. In this type of case, the requested move should be made using the following code:

{{subst:requested move|reason=(the reason for the page move goes here).|current1=(present title of page to be renamed)|new1=(proposed title of page)}}

Note that the |1= unnamed parameter is not used, and that the |current1= and |new1= parameters are used similar to multiple page moves described below.

Requesting multiple page moves

A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected articles, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).

To request a multiple page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you chose for your request, without adding a new header, inserting this code:

{{subst:requested move
| new1 = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2 = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3 = New title for page 3
| reason = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. Do not sign this.}}

For example, to propose moving the articles Wikipedia and Wiki, put this template on Talk:Wikipedia, and replace current2 with Wiki. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article at page 1 (Talk:Wikipedia). Do not sign a request with ~~~~ as the template does this automatically. Do not skip pairs of numbers.

RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of the additional pages that are included in your request, advising that the move discussion is in progress, where it is, and that all discussion for all pages included in the request should take place at that one location.

Occasionally the discussions for significant multi-move requests may be hosted on WikiProject talk pages or other pages in Project namespace. For multi-move discussions hosted on a page which is not itself proposed to be moved, specify |current1=Current title of page 1 for the first page to move.

Template usage examples and notes
Talk page tag Text that will be shown (and usage notes)
{{subst:Requested move |new|reason=why}}
links talk edit
Requested move 21 January 2020

Wikipedia:Requested movesNew – why Example (talk) 02:23, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Use when the proposed new title is given.
Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:.
This tag should be placed at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.

{{subst:Requested move|?|reason=why}}
Requested move 21 January 2020

Wikipedia:Requested moves → ? – why Example (talk) 02:23, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Use when the proposed new title is not known.
Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:.
This tag should be placed at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.

{{subst:Requested move |new|reason=why|talk=yes}}
Requested move 21 January 2020

Wikipedia:Requested movesNew – why Example (talk) 02:23, 21 January 2020‎ (UTC)

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this subsection with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
Any additional comments:

This template adds subsections for survey and discussion.
Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:
Click the "New Section" tab on the talk page and leave the Subject/headline blank, as the template by default automatically creates the heading.

{{subst:Requested move |new1=x|current2=y|new2=z|reason=why}}
Requested move 21 January 2020

– why Example (talk) 02:23, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted.
Be sure to use the subst: and place this tag at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.
Add additional related move requests in pairs (|current3= and |new3=, |current4= and |new4=, etc.).

{{subst:Requested move |new1=?|current2=y|new2=?|reason=why}}
Requested move 21 January 2020

– why Example (talk) 02:23, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Request all associated moves explicitly

Please list every move that you wish to have made in your request. For example, if you wish to move Cricket (disambiguation) to Cricket because you do not believe the sport is the primary topic for the search term "Cricket", then you actually want to move two pages, both Cricket (disambiguation) and Cricket. Thus you must list proposed titles for each page affected by your request. For example, you might propose:

If a new title is not proposed for the sport, it is more difficult to achieve consensus for a new title for that article. A move request that does not show what to do with the material at its proposed target, such as:

is called a malformed move request and may be subject to early closure on procedural grounds.

Commenting on a requested move

All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. There are a number of standards that Wikipedians should practice in such discussions:

  • When editors recommend a course of action, they write Support or Oppose in bold text, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g. '''Support'''.
  • Comments or recommendations are added on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *) and signed by adding ~~~~ to the end. Responses to another editor are threaded and indented using multiple bullets.
  • The article itself should be reviewed before any recommendation is made; do not base recommendations solely on the information supplied by other editors. It may also help to look at the article's edit history. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior move requests. They may contain relevant arguments and useful information.
  • Vested interests in the article should be disclosed per Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI.

When participating, please consider the following:

  • Editors should make themselves familiar with the article titling policy at Wikipedia:Article titles.
  • Other important guidelines that set forth community norms for article titles include Wikipedia:Disambiguation, specific naming conventions, and the manual of style.
  • The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations that are not sustained by arguments.
  • Explain how the proposed article title meets or contravenes policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
  • Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.[a]
  • Do not make conflicting recommendations. If you change your mind, use strike-through to retract your previous statement by enclosing it between <s> and </s> after the bullets, and de-bold the struck words, as in "• Support Oppose".

Please remember that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but that arguments based in policy, guidelines, and evidence have more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers an argument that does not explain how the move request is consistent with policies and guidelines, a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion may be useful. On the other hand, a pattern of responding to requests with groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider using a dispute resolution process.

Closing a requested move

Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read the closing instructions for information on how to close a move request. The Simple guide to closing RM discussions details how to actually close a requested move discussion.

Relisting a requested move

Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing.[b] Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.

Relisting can be done using {{subst:relisting}}, which automatically includes the relister's signature, and which must be placed at the very end of the initial request after the move requester's signature (and subsequent relisters' signatures). When a discussion has been relisted a bot partially underlines the "Discuss" link in the lists of debates: (Discuss).

When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.

If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion, such as by notifying WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}} or {{Mdn}}. Banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request can often be used to identify WikiProjects suitable for notification.


  1. ^ A nominator making a procedural nomination with which they may not agree is free to add a bulleted line explaining their actual position. Additional detail, such as sources, may also be provided in an additional bullet point if its inclusion in the nomination statement would make the statement unwieldy. Please remember that the entire nomination statement is transcluded into the list on this page.
  2. ^ Despite this, discussions are occasionally relisted more than once.

Current discussions

This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.

This list is also available in a page-link-first format and in table format. 36 discussions have been relisted, indicated by (Discuss)

January 21, 2020

January 20, 2020

  • (Discuss)Garifuna languageGarífuna language – "Garífuna" is consistently misspelled throughout this article and across all Wiki articles dealing with the Garífuna language, culture, and people. The accent on the "í" is not optional, and aside from the implicit lack of respect for Garífuna culture contained in such a misspelling, is misleading to anyone seeking to learn about Garífuna culture. Mpaniello (talk) 08:28, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

January 19, 2020

  • (Discuss)The Lion KingThe Lion King (1994 film) – In order to disambiguate the 1994 film from 2019 version, this article needs to move in order knowledge that the original film was released in 1994. "The Lion King" in many moviegoers can be used to refer to 1994 version or 2019 version because it is hard to disambiguate these films despite same name "The Lion King" can used as disambiguated page. This are hardly to used as only Primary Topic, which 2019 version also highly notable. (talk) 22:46, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)20th Century Fox Television20th Century Studios Television – Disney confirmed that "20th Century Studios" is now the official new name for 20th Century Fox. According to this NYT article, "A Disney spokesman confirmed that both labels, now officially known as 20th Century Studios and Searchlight Pictures... would drop Fox from their logos." Therefore the page needs to be moved to its correct name. AdamDeanHall (talk) 19:05, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Mauthausen-Gusen concentration campMauthausen concentration camp – "Mauthausen-Gusen concentration camp" doesn't make much sense since Mauthausen and Gusen were not the same place, unlike Mittelbau-Dora concentration camp. If you do a google search, it first appears that "Mauthausen-Gusen concentration camp" gets more results, but in fact many of these results are for "Mauthausen/Gusen concentration camp". For nearly two years the article was at "Mauthausen-Gusen concentration camp complex" without any objections. I don't object to that name, because it doesn't imply that Mauthausen and Gusen were the same concentration camp. However, the current name is suboptimal. buidhe 18:39, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Loona (group)Loona – I understand claiming primary topic out of four pages seems like a lot, so I do ask you please read my whole rationale. On Loona (group)'s discography page, Vaporgaze attempted to move the page to just "Loona discography", and the consensus was to not move as this page is titled "Loona (group)". However, a case could be made that this page is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, looking at pageviews. Since late November 2018, Loona (group)'s pageviews have dwarfed all of instances of "Loona" combined in terms of pageviews. In that time, the four pages have collectively amassed 470,548 pageviews, with Loona (group) covering 427,376 of those views. You can see that, in pie chart form (click "chart type" > "pie"), Loona (group) is responsible for roughly 91% of all views to pages with "Loona" in the title. Seems like a pretty clear instance of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. See also: Google trends, where the group dwarfs the others in terms of searches, and where the general search term "Loona" lines up almost exactly with searches for the group. DanielleTH (Say hi!) 17:45, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Santiago's theory of cognitionSantiago theory of cognition – The current article title is not the name given to the theory, nor is it even grammatically correct. As others posted above, This is just a case of a basically incorrect apostrophe. It should be 'The Santiago Theory of Cognition' because named after a place, not belonging to a person. nagualdesign 17:28, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Jumu'ahFriday Prayer – as wp:ENGLISH demanded, The title of an article should generally use the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language, as you would find it in reliable sources (for example other encyclopedias and reference works, scholarly journals, and major news sources), by this reason, the Friday Prayer (as google search proved) is most common than current title Hispring (talk) 11:13, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Glossary of musical terminologyGlossary of music terminology – Per WP:CONCISE and WP:PRECISE, and to be consistent with so many other "Glossary of subject-noun terminology" lists. The terminology is not "musical" (an instrument, a talent/skill, a production might be); it is simply about music. I would, however, not move to this "Glossary of music", because this in fact about a terminology, i.e. a rather pre-defined and consistently applied system of terms, not random words and phrases that pertain to the subject (contrast Glossary of blogging); and because "Glossary of subject-noun" by itself is often confusingly ambiguous (e.g. Glossary of computer science is clear, while "Glossary of computer software" could easily imply some kind of software list or software-category list to some readers, and the article is sensibly at Glossary of computer software terms). "Music" is one such case, and "Glossary of music" would seem to mean an index of genres/styles to too many readers for us to use that. That is to say, we do not impose CONCISE as the cost of PRECISE and RECOGNIZABLE.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  11:01, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Loyola FCF.C. Meralco Manila – Provided that legally the club still exists, as just Loyola F.C., I think the article's name should be renamed back to "F.C. Meralco Manila", its name when it last competed in the country's domestic professional league. "Loyola F.C." may be argued to be its "basic name" but it didn't play under the name "Loyola FC" in the Philippines' top-flight (the club was known as Loyola Meralco Sparks FC from 2011 to 2016). Its current reincarnation is that of a recreation/youth football club. See Team Socceroo F.C. which was named under that article name, despite being known as Sigla FC, a vastly different name, while it is not playing in the top-flight. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 09:51, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Antinopolis → ? – Antinoöpolis makes better sense than "Antinopolis", which misses out two vowels and a whole syllable from the Greek's "Antinouopolis", and implies someone called "Antinus" is being comemorated, not Antinoös. This is dictionary style of the Oxford Classical Dictionary and all of the English-language citations on this page. Antinoöpolis is the correct name of the city in English; named after the deified youth Antinoüs. The diaereses ö and ü are not foreign imports or archaisms but native English diacritics indicting that the second vowel is pronounced independently of the first, as in Greek, as in the names "Zoë" and "Chloë". "Antinopolis" appears to be a mistake, not spelled thus in any reliable source. GPinkerton (talk) 00:27, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

January 18, 2020

  • (Discuss)Main-belt cometActive asteroid – This type of solar system body has been referred to more commonly as an "active asteroid" for several years now in the astronomy community. David Jewitt and Henry Hsieh are the two astronomers that originally coined the term "main-belt comet" in 2006,[1] and they switched to using the term "active asteroid" as early as 2011.[2][3][4] Furthermore, "main-belt comet" excludes objects such as 101955 Bennu, which has recently been classified as an active asteroid[5] but is not in the main belt. As Jewitt says,[6]

    The preferred term for these bodies is "Active Asteroids". Formerly, we called them "Main Belt Comets" but this was misinterpreted by many people to mean that the active objects are necessarily icy. In most cases, we don't know if they are icy. In some cases we know that they are not.

Yarnalgo talk to me 21:33, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

  • (Discuss)Internal conflict in Peru → ? – This article focuses specifically and solely on terrorism in Peru, particularly the terrorism crisis in Peru throughout the 1980s and 1990s. The Spanish version of the article also refers to the article as the Época del terrorismo en Perú, which is roughly Age of terrorism in Peru. Moving this page to Terrorism in Peru would make the article title more accurate, as well as correct. DoctorSpeed ✉️ 18:15, 10 January 2020 (UTC)Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 14:14, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Fabricio AgostoFabri (footballer, born 1987) – Fixing malformed RM started by @Quite A Character: - "Please consider re-moving the page to "Fabri (footballer, born 1987)". Why the usage of "Agosto" when subject has NEVER been addressed by that surname in his profession? And the fact that "Agosto" appears in several of his social media (as pointed out by someone in his last page move request) is of no relevance to the article title methinks." GiantSnowman 09:29, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Christopher PorcoMurder of Peter Porco – Standard naming convention for articles about murders with otherwise non-notable victims/perpetrators. Per WP:SINGLEEVENT, Christopher Porco is not notable aside from this event. Media coverage is focused on the murder, and so is the article. Furthermore, Christopher does not meet WP:PERP, as the victim was not widely renowned and there's nothing to suggest that the motivation for the crime was particularly unusual. Surachit (talk) 06:53, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Bishop's HouseBishops House – Move combo dab page for 3 homonyms to "Bishops House", which is simplest and most natural to be central, rather than "Bishop's" or "Bishops'". I think this is non-controversial; there has rarely been interest in similar dab cleanup-type moves in past. Doncram (talk) 04:40, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)2020 Washington Democratic primary2020 Washington presidential primary – In this name change, I'm expressing two disagreements with the original name of the article. First, the March 10, 2020 presidential primary is for both major parties, although the Republicans have only one candidate running. Second, the article name needs to be specific that this is a presidential primary. There is another primary in Washington in August 2020 for down ballot races. Dash77 (talk) 04:27, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

January 17, 2020

  • (Discuss)African U-20 Cup of Nations for Women → ? – Okay so basically there's no trophy, no host country or anything that indicates the existence of a competition called African U-20 Cup of Nations for Women. It's simply a qualifying tournament for the FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup and that means the current title should be changed. For me the only suitable options are either African U-20 Women's World Cup Qualifying Tournament or FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup African Qualifying Tournament, despite both might break WP:RECOGNIZABILITY. I couldn't think of other possible titles and I wouldn't mind if someone bring up another suitable title, but definitely I'd be against keeping the current title for the reason I mentioned above. Ben5218 (talk) 22:24, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)KASIKASI (radio) – Radio station is not WP:PTOPIC (number of google results):
    106M Varanasi (3859 wikilinks)
    21,7M Kasi film (49 wikilinks)
    11,8M KASI radio (106 wikilinks)
    4,69M Kasi Kelly (34 wikilinks)
    3,34M Korea Astronomy and Space Science Institute (28 wikilinks)
    3,16M Kingdom of Kashi (202 wikilinks)
    1,20M Kasi tribe (233 wikilinks)
    0,49M Kasi Lemmons (127 wikilinks)
    Also, in my opinion, the situation is not normal when two articles (KASI&Kasi) differ only in letter case. One of them should be one disambiguation page and other should be redirect to it. ·Carn·!? 09:44, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

January 16, 2020

  • (Discuss)HindustaniHindustani (disambiguation) – In our article Hindustan, we single out two uses of the adjective 'Hindustani' for mention: the ethnic and the linguistic. However, for only one of these, the linguistic one, do we bother with an article (Hindustani language) -- Hindustani people is just a redirect to 'Hindustan'. Thus the language article functions as the primary topic. Also, although it's a bit difficult to compare, because both uses usually are worded simply as 'Hindustani', Ngram[8] shows that 'Hindustani language' is far more common than 'Hindustani people'. Thus 'Hindustani' should redirect to 'Hindustani language' (with a hat note to the dab page, of course). — kwami (talk) 04:43, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

January 15, 2020

  • (Discuss)South End (disambiguation)South End – No clear primary topic for 2 words. There are quite a few uses of the 2 word term and also quite a few for the 1 word term. I don't think a suburb of 24,577 is clearly primary for such a generic term. When I Google the 2 word term I only get results for the Essex town but that's probably because of my location. South End of Stamford also has some historical importance. Views show that this does get more views than the others with 2 words but not significantly more while the town in Essex gets over 5x as many [[9]] [[10]]. Also note that the South End only gets 39 views compared to 2,022 for its target compared with 453 v 10,156 for the Southend redirect [[11]]. I'm also fine with retargeting the single word term to the DAB and/or moving the DAB to the singular word. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)New Zealand pigeonKererū – Kererū is used significantly more in New Zealand to describe this bird than the current title - a google search for the exact phrase (which I accept isn't exactly scientific) shows 168,000 results for "New Zealand Pigeon" but 418,000 for "kereru" and a further 68,800 for "kererū" with a macron. News articles related to the bird show overwhelming preference for Kererū as opposed to New Zealand Pigeon / Wood Pigeon, and the name Kererū is used on road signs related to the bird. [1][2] [3][4] Changing the name of the article reflects the common name of the bird within New Zealand and better reflects the bird itself. The macron should also be present to reflect correct spelling of the name, which has only become more common in recent years and can be seen in the increased use with recent articles. Turnagra (talk) 06:08, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

January 14, 2020

  • (Discuss)Ben Platt (actor)Ben Platt – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Currently, the page "Ben Platt" is a disambig that lists three pages: one for this article about the actor, one stub article for a retired cricketer, and one for a businessman who died in 1960. Per the Pageviews Analysis, the articles for the cricketer and businessman average between 1 and 8 views per day, respectively, while the article for the actor averages over 6,300 (and has far exceeded the traffic for the other two articles for as far back as the pageview records go). Sunshineisles2 (talk) 23:53, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)2020 Baghdad International Airport airstrikeDeath of Qasem Soleimani – Though reliable sources typically refer to this as the "killing of" or "assassination of" Qasem Soleimani, editors in previous move requests have objected to these as loaded terms conflicting with Wikipedia's NPOV policy on titles, so I am proposing the neutral "Death of Qasem Soleimani". The current title makes it sound like this was an attack on the airport itself, which it was not. Though others were killed in the attack, Soleimani's death was singled out by the vast majority of reliable sources as being the most consequential. His name is the most recognizable and the most natural. This new title is precise, concise, and consistent with the naming of articles about the deaths of other important figures. It meets Wikipedia's criteria for good titles. It is neutral and non-judgemental. Editors preferring the stronger "killing of" or "assassination of" may consider that, while "Death of Qasem Soleimani" is not their first choice, it is a better choice than the current title. Qono (talk) 21:08, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)KYMA-DT (1988–2020) → ?If you are not familiar with broadcasting article title guidelines, please read this thoroughly before commenting. In 2019, Northwest Broadcasting, which owned television stations KYMA-DT and KSWT in Yuma, Arizona, was acquired. In order to comply with certain ownership regulations, the buyer was required to divest or surrender the license of one of the stations, which have been co-owned since 2014 under a waiver. It has chosen to shut down the KYMA-DT license, but prior to doing so, on January 13, 2020, it switched their callsigns, such that the current KSWT article needed to be moved to KYMA-DT. This change now shows in the FCC call sign database and is not in doubt. It is worth noting that a TV viewer in Yuma will notice little change, as all of the programming on the former KYMA-DT has been moved to the old KSWT/current KYMA-DT multiplex. The question that remains—and where I need consensus—is where to put the article about KYMA-DT from 1988 to 2020. The license that is being surrendered has been given the KSWT call sign, but I have a personal rule against "Viking funerals", in which a call sign is paired with a license that will expire or be surrendered in its final days, because they break WP:COMMONNAME. The final call sign on a license in this situation is thus not one a reader will expect and not an appropriate article title. I briefly put the article at KYMA-DT (former license), in order to move KSWT to KYMA-DT, and want to determine an appropriate disambiguator. Mvcg66b3r put it at KYMA-DT (1988–2020), which is probably the best available option given the precedent set by my defunct station work last year. I am establishing this RM mostly to gain consensus from others. The current article title is probably the one that will stand, but I want to have it nailed down. Raymie (tc) 20:00, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Vaikuntha ChaturmurtiCaturmūrti – Per Doris Srinivasan: "The name Vaikuntha, according to the textual evidence, should be reserved for those four-faces Vishnu images where the god, either alone or with his consort, rides on Garuda. When Garuda is absent, as for example in the Kashmiri type to be discussed below, the designation Caturmūrti (four-faced image) is appropriate" in Srinivasan, Doris (1979). "Early Vaiṣṇava Imagery: Caturvyūha and Variant Forms". Archives of Asian Art. 32: 43. ISSN 0066-6637. In addition, we can then create the Vaikuṇṭha article with the examples in which the four-faced Vishnu rides Garuda पाटलिपुत्र Pat (talk) 12:49, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)The Hexer (TV series)The HexerWP:PRIMARYTOPIC and perhaps WP:Common sense. The "film" is just a mash-up of clips from the TV series, rather like the Battlestar Galacitica movie that was made up of scenes from the first season of that [original] TV series. Honestly, just merging the film into the TV series article, at The Hexer, as a section would also be an appropriate possibility. While before the current The Witcher TV series on Netflix, the film might maybe have had a primary-topic claim, in that various English-language movie sites mentioned the film more often than non-Polish sites talked about the full TV series, today there's more material out there about the original TV series, including in-depth comparisons of The Hexer to Netflix's The Witcher, and they generally agree the film isn't worth watching or covering in any detail, since it's just a poor edit of the original series.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  11:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Elapsed listings


  1. ^ Roy, Eleanor Ainge (14 October 2018). "New Zealand bird of the year: 'drunk, gluttonous' kererū pigeon wins". The Guardian.
  2. ^ Lyon, Reesh (9 December 2017). "New signs warn motorists of low flying kererū". RNZ. Retrieved 15 January 2020.
  3. ^ Foxcroft, Debrin. "NZTA authorise new traffic sign to keep kererū safe". Stuff. Retrieved 15 January 2020.
  4. ^ Moir, Jo. "Kereru are protected species and not for eating - Maggie Barry". Stuff. Retrieved 15 January 2020.
  5. ^
  6. ^ "NASA's Hubble Finds Water Vapor on Habitable-Zone Exoplanet for 1st Time" – National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) – "The planet, discovered by NASA's Kepler Space Telescope in 2015..."
  7. ^ "NASA's Kepler Discovers First Earth-Size Planet In The 'Habitable Zone' of Another Star" – National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) – "NASA's Kepler Space Telescope, astronomers have discovered [...] The Kepler Space Telescope, which simultaneously and continuously measured the brightness..."
  8. ^ "Kepler Marks Five Years in Space" – National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) – "NASA's Kepler Space Telescope rocketed into the night skies..."
  9. ^ "The Kepler Space Telescope Mission Is Ending But Its Legacy Will Keep Growing." – National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) – "The Kepler Space Telescope is dead. [...] The Kepler Space Telescope was focused on hunting for planets..."
  10. ^ "About Exoplanets" (Archived) – National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) – "As NASA's Kepler Space Telescope science team [...] Enter NASA's Kepler Space Telescope..."
  11. ^ "NASA telescope discovers its first planet orbiting two stars" – Astronomy – "...12 were discovered by NASA's Kepler Space Telescope..."
  12. ^ "Kepler Space Telescope: The Original Exoplanet Hunter" – – "NASA's Kepler Space Telescope was an observatory"
  13. ^ "The Kepler Space Telescope Comes to an End" – Sky & Telescope – "The Kepler Space Telescope is shown against a backdrop of worlds [...] the Kepler Space Telescope has finished its job. [...] The initial mission of the Kepler Space Telescope..."
  14. ^ "The Kepler Revolution" – Eos – "That instrument is the Kepler Space Telescope [...] Artist's conception of the Kepler Space Telescope..."
  15. ^ "NASA retires the Kepler Space Telescope" – Cosmos – "NASA's Kepler Space Telescope, rendered as art. [...] NASA's Kepler Space Telescope has ceased operations."
  16. ^ "Here Is the Last Picture the Kepler Planet-Hunting Telescope Ever Took" – Popular Mechanics – "On the left is the "first light" of the Kepler Space Telescope."
  17. ^ "Kepler, NASA's Revolutionary Planet-Hunting Telescope, Is Dead" – Scientific American – "NASA's prolific Kepler Space Telescope has run out of fuel, agency officials announced..."
  18. ^ "Kepler Space Telescope, Revealer of New Worlds, Officially Shuts Down After Historic Mission" – Smithsonian – "NASA's planet-hunting Kepler Space Telescope began to get a little wobbly..."
  19. ^ "After 9 Years In Orbit, Kepler Telescope Leaves A Legacy Of Discovery" – NPR – "...NASA's Kepler Space Telescope has run out of fuel. [...] thanks to the Kepler Space Telescope."
  20. ^ "After finding thousands of planets, NASA's Kepler mission ends" – CNN – "NASA's Kepler Space Telescope has run out of fuel, and its mission has come to an end..."
  21. ^ "Here's the magnificent last view NASA's Kepler Space Telescope ever saw" – CNET – "The final thing NASA's Kepler Space Telescope captured was everything..."
  22. ^ "NASA retired Kepler, a telescope that discovered thousands of worlds beyond our solar system" – Vox – "How the Kepler Space Telescope discovered [...] When NASA launched the Kepler Space Telescope in 2009 [...] When NASA finally retired the Kepler Space Telescope this week..."
  23. ^ "The Kepler Space Telescope is dead" – The Verge – "...NASA officially bid farewell to the Kepler Space Telescope..."
PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 00:53, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Ana Pastor JuliánAna Pastor (politician) – Under WP:MAIDEN, second surnames should only be used when the person is better known with it. This is not the case here: both of these people are commonly known as "Ana Pastor" only, with their second surnames being of little use in reliable sources and, thus, unhelpful to serve as proper disambiguators. This is supported by WP:NCPDAB when it calls for using "the usual way of distinguishing two people of the same name", which in this case is not the second surname but their occupations: Ana Pastor Julián being prominently known as a long-time cabinet minister, member of the People's Party and speaker of the Congress of Deputies between 2016 and 2019, and Ana Pastor García being one of Spain's most widely-known journalists, having worked on TVE, CNN and laSexta. Impru20talk 20:12, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Pablo Iglesias TurriónPablo Iglesias – Not only because of WP:COMMONNAME on the specific subject (sources do not tend to refer to him as "Pablo Iglesias Turrión", but as "Pablo Iglesias" only), but also and foremost because of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC: the article's topic is primary for the term both in usage and long-term significance, specially now that the person has become a deputy prime minister of Spain. Further, according to web statistics, this one has been already the prime target for visitors out all three listed "Pablo Iglesias" pages in Wikipedia throughout the last five years, and by a great deal. This one should eventually follow the same path as the Pedro Sánchez article did. Impru20talk 19:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)The Fragile (Nine Inch Nails album)The Fragile – I was pretty taken aback to see that this article has such a specific disambiguator, so I had a look at the Fragile dab page to see what other topics have this name. Turns out that, although there are quite a few things named just Fragile (including other albums), the only other thing named THE Fragile that has an article is another album. Between the fact that the Nine Inch Nails album has page views in the thousands while the O'Hooley & Tidow album doesn't even come close, a quick Google search that almost exclusively brought up results related to the NIN album and the other album being by a seemingly much less well-known and culturally significant artist, this album seems like an obvious WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Vaporgaze (talk) 15:23, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Shinzō AbeShinzo Abe – It interested me to see that the macron diacritic on Junichiro Koizumi's name was removed from the title of his Wikipedia article a few years ago during a page move discussion.[15] The main argument used was WP: COMMONNAME. If the arguments of that previous discussion hold true, shouldn't this article also be moved on the same grounds? Most recent books and media in English don't use the macron, it seems. I've never once seen an article in the Japan Times or South China Morning Post that spells Shinzo Abe's name with the macron attached.Funtoedit1212 (talk) 08:33, 13 January 2020 (UTC)


  • (Discuss)Micheal (name)Micheal – No conflict. Obviously when it's the correct spelling should trump when it's a misspelling. Nardog (talk) 03:00, 11 January 2020 (UTC) clarified 01:58, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Mena (name)Mena (surname) – I suggest this article be split into two. The "given name" is unreferenced, all the prose textual information is concerning the Jewish and Iberian surname. Only the list of people by this given name concerns the given name. The given name list just needs to be split off to Mena (given name), the majority of the article would then move to Mena (surname), and the current title Mena (name) would end up redirecting to Mena (disambiguation), which would list both the surname and given name pages. The edit history would remain attached to the surname article, since the prose text is only about the surname, thus the significant contributions (not just adding a name on a list) is about the surname. -- (talk) 21:19, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Eric OumaErick Otieno – He is registered as "Erick Ouma Otieno" on where "Ouma" is listed as one of two last names., however, is based on info from his passport, and there "Ouma" is listed as his middle name, not his last name. Both his current club, AIK, and his previous side, Vasalund, refer to him as "Erick Otieno" on their respective websites. This page should therefore also be renamed "Erick Otieno". Aikclaes (talk) 11:24, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Champ CarChampionship Auto Racing Teams – Now that the page has been fleshed out, going to again suggest a move of this page to Championship Auto Racing Teams or CART, and the creation of a separate page for the Champ Car (04-07) organization, which was owned by a separate legal entity. While both shared the same series history, CART was fundamentally different in structure. Knoper (talk) 03:20, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)California State Route 123San Pablo Avenue – Not all of San Pablo Avenue is designated as California State Route 123. Currently, the last sentence of the lead section and the third paragraph of the Route description describe those segments that are not a California State Route. Also similar to Avenue of the Giants and Tiburon Boulevard, should use the common street name of this major San Francisco Bay Area road that is used along the entire length of this California state highway. Zzyzx11 (talk) 23:41, 28 December 2019 (UTC) Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:34, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Boots UKBoots (company) – The current title is a poor choice IMHO. This company is almost always referred to as "Boots", and this should be the name of the article, with the added (company) for disambiguation. "Boots UK" is very awkward. Moreover, Companies House lists the company as THE BOOTS COMPANY PLC, so "Boots UK" is not even the registered name. Elshad (talk) 19:37, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Zombie DogZombie dog (Resident Evil) – This was not the first appearance of a zombie dog in popular culture, with a zombie dog having appeared in The Last Man on Earth as far back as 1964. (Also mentioned on page 58 of Zombie Culture: Autopsies of the Living Dead.) "Zombie Dog" also cannot be a proper noun, because we are talking about a type of enemy, not a single dog. Unsure where the original name would redirect, but perhaps to a section in the zombie article on zombie animals. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:39, 28 December 2019 (UTC) Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 18:39, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Statements on auditing standardsStatement on Auditing Standards – I put this as a technical request, although I was trying to kill two birds with one stone and should have done a full RM straight away. I hadn't noticed the previous brief discussion because I was checking the talk pages of various redirects, and I missed it. Sorry. Never mind, let's start. As far as I see it, "Statement on Auditing Standards" is a proper noun. It is not some general statement on auditing standards, "I think auditing standards are too lax" or whatnot, it is a specific kind of document required by the Generally Accepted Auditing Standards, which as you see is in initial caps. GAAS issues "Statements on Auditing Standards", each of which is a Statement, singular, the two we have articles for are Statement_on_Auditing_Standards_No._55 and Statement on Auditing Standards No. 99: Consideration of Fraud. Whether the plural "Statements" or singular "Statement" should be used is a fine point, but these are particular things that are proper names. Declaration of interest per WP:COI: my wife is a financial auditor, but not under GAAP rules but she never edits Wikipedia and has not asked me to raise this on her behalf. There is no conflict of interest. This is purely WP:NCCAPS as a proper name. (talk) 15:05, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)MagyedaejeonSeongnam FC–Suwon Samsung Bluewings rivalry – Name-Magyedaejeon was rival match naming between Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma and Suwon Samsung Bluewings. (Ma means horse) Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma became Seongnam FC in 2014 and they changed mascot Chunma => Magpie Since 2015, Naming Magyedaejeon was disappeared. Therefore, Seongnam FC–Suwon Samsung Bluewings rivalry is appropriate naming. Footwiks (talk) 13:11, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Statism in Shōwa JapanJapanese fascism – I am arguing that this article be moved to Japanese fascism based on two points. (1.) Firstly, the current title of the article is wrong, since statism was only one form of Japanese ultranationalism. See this quote from historian Richard Sims: "The divisions within Japanese ultranationalism:The great number and variety of different groups makes analysis of Japanese nationalism extremely difficult. Historians have tended to favour a dualistic division into kokkashugi (pro-Establishment statist nationalism) and kokuminshugi (anti-Establishment people-oriented nationalism), or alternatively, totalitarian (or renovationist) Right and idealist (or Japanist) Right." Therefore, I think we should all be able to agree that Statism in Showa Japan is the wrong title. (2.) While I admit that fascism is difficult to define, and while I admit that many historians do not associate the Japanese extreme right with fascism, many, if not most historians, do call it fascism. For example, historian E. Bruce Reynolds says, "surely Bernd Martin was correct in labeling prewar Japan 'a folkish imperial state' and itsemperor-centered ideology a form of 'Japanese-style fascism.'" Historian Christopher WA Szpilman says, "fascists were in charge in prewar Japan, even if they themselves spurned this label. After all, it is not the labels that are important, but the ideological content." If there is no consensus to rename this article to Japanese fascism, my second choice is Ultranationalism in prewar Japan. Hko2333 (talk) 08:19, 29 December 2019 (UTC)Relisting. Surachit (talk) 09:03, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Löyly (public sauna)Löyly – "Löyly" is a Finnish word meaning the heat and humidity in a sauna and is a more notable concept than this public sauna, but this is the English-speaking Wikipedia and not the Finnish-speaking one. "Löyly" is not an English word and I'm not sure English even has a word for the concept. The public sauna gets tens of incoming links, the Finnish word gets one (I'm not counting Finnish sauna, the target of the redirect löyly). JIP | Talk 00:12, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)European SchoolsEuropean SchoolWP:PLURAL. The term "European School" is used 57 times in this article, including in the infobox. The term is spelled that way in the title of the Statute that established this type of school. "European School" denotes a type of school, there's nothing special about the plural form. Just because there is more than one "Comprehensive school" or "Grammar school", each a type of school established by law, does not mean we put those articles at the plural. This was moved to the plural by User:Favonian on 16 May 2016 at this request by User:Marksomnian. It was not discussed at that time. (talk) 09:27, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Haaksbergse Sport Club 1921HSC '21 – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Outside Wikipedia (and through us Google league tables), hardly anyone uses "Haaksbergse Sport Club 1921". It's all HSC '21 or HSC'21. It's the WP convention and quality press convention[25] to add the space between HSC and '21 because these are different words. gidonb (talk) 00:36, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)New Aberdeen StadiumKingsford Stadium – Kingsford Stadium is its name, as shown for example by its own website and various other local sources. I don't think it has ever been called New Aberdeen Stadium. Was that a name made up by Wikipedia? (talk) 10:01, 24 December 2019 (UTC) Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:40, 2 January 2020 (UTC)


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  2. ^ "Parliamentary Biography". UK Parliament. Retrieved 8 August 2019.
  3. ^ "Official website". Jonathan Ashworth MP. Retrieved 8 August 2019.
  4. ^ "Maungakiekie / One Tree Hill : Climbing, Hiking & Mountaineering : SummitPost".
  5. ^ "About Cornwall Park". Cornwall Park: Auckland, New Zealand. 9 January 2020.

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