Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions

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October 28, 2016[edit]

October 27, 2016[edit]

  • (Discuss)The MoogThe Moog (band) – Although there is only entity with an article called "The Moog", I think most people typing that term into Wikipedia will be looking for something to do with the synthesizer, and just possibly the odd one looking for a character in a long forgotten children's TV show who doesn't seem to have anything to do with Robert Moog whatsoever. In turn, I would expect this page to become a redirect to Moog, the current disambiguation page. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:01, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Nuclear energy in the Republic of IrelandNuclear energy in Ireland – The electric grid on the Island of Ireland is one single unit, as discussed in the intro of this article. Moreover there is no article on "Nuclear Energy in N.Ireland" as N.Ireland has likewise never had any nuclear fission-electric power stations. Furthermore, as this article contains detailed info on the entire Island of Ireland and does not simply discuss Éire/"the republic", the article therefore is quite clearly erroneously titled "nuclear energy in the "Republic of" Ireland". Boundarylayer (talk) 02:35, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Rob DelaneyRob Delaney (baseball) – There are only two Rob Delaneys on Wikipedia. One is the guy occupying the undisambiguated name, a marginally notable baseball player who played in just 5 MLB games. The other one, the comedian, is clearly far more notable. Pageviews are clearly in his favor, he gets 96% of them with 656 a day despite having disambiguation. Long-term significance will likely go in his favor as well. It is clear the primary topic here should be swapped. Nohomersryan (talk) 01:51, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

October 26, 2016[edit]

  • (Discuss)Bakken pipelineDakota Access Pipeline – It seems that the official name Dakota Access Pipeline is currently also the common name for this pipeline project. While at the beginning when this project was proposed it was dubbed as the Bakken pipeline, more recent sources use usually the name Dakota Access Pipeline, sometimes also Dakota pipeline or North Dakota pipeline. The problem with names Dakota pipeline and North Dakota pipeline, like with the name Bakken pipeline, is that these names may be ambiguous. Renaming this article into Dakota Access Pipeline is supported also by the fact that the article about protests against this pipeline project is named Dakota Access Pipeline protests. Beagel (talk) 18:30, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Ellis (sigil)Linking Sigil (LS) – In a Youtube video, the creator of the Linking Sigil which many within the community has come to coin as "Ellis" is a separate entity. The video is in question is located here: [1]. The person in the video is indeed the creator of the Linking Sigil, and this can be verified on DKMU's website under "documents" and in the document "Ellis: Assault on Reality:" [2] Which is an archive of blog posts from, where the sigil was first conceptualized. Earthen Mystique (talk) 00:24, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

October 25, 2016[edit]

  • (Discuss)Cobra CommandCobra (G.I. Joe nemesis) – A while back this was moved from Cobra Organization (a poor name, certainly) to Cobra Command with little discussion and no real rationale. There's little to no evidence of this ever being the organization's name. They are always referred to simply as "Cobra." Someone made some vague reference to the name "Cobra Command" appearing on toy packaging decades ago, which may be true, but is hardly definitive, and by no means indicates that this is how they are most commonly known. A google image search reveals that many toy's were labelled "Cobra Enemy" at some point, but that doesn't mean they were called that either. The group's name has always been Cobra, and it obviously needs a disambiguating parenthetical qualifier, so if "(G.I. Joe nemesis)" isn't the best one there are plenty of others we could go with. But this is the only place I've ever seen the group referred to as Cobra Command, and I played with these toys a lot when I was a kid. If there is enough evidence to suggest that this was at one point the group's official title, it can still go in the article, but it is not an appropriate title for the article. R. fiend (talk) 13:29, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)J.R. QuiñahanJR Quiñahan – News articles and most references use JR instead of J.R. I csd-ed JR Quiñahan but was declined because MOS:INITIALS suggest periods should be used. However, there is a case that if "An overwhelming majority of reliable sources do otherwise for that person", we can exclude MOS:INITIALS for a page. And J.R. Quiñahan falls onto that exception. So I am requesting again to move it. Babymissfortune 13:30, 14 October 2016 (UTC)--Relisting. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 05:12, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)File shortcutShortcut file – At least in Windows, shortcuts need not refer to files at all: they can refer to any Shell item (whether it's a file/directory or something more abstract, like "[My] Computer", "Network [Neighborhood]", "Control Panel", "Recycle Bin", or "Recent Places"), or even to a thing that may or may not need to be installed from an MSI before use. (And if you count .url files, you can make shortcuts to webpages, too.) Also, shortcuts to programs specify not only which program to run, but what parameters to pass on its command line. (And this part presumably applies to *nix's .desktop shortcuts, too.) So they aren't just "shortcuts to files", but files that represent shortcuts to ... things, and the article name "Shortcut file" would make more sense. —SamB (talk) 20:01, 16 October 2016 (UTC)--Relisting. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 04:19, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Ghosts 'n Goblins (series)Ghosts 'n Goblins – The Ghosts 'n Goblins series seems to meet the following criteria on WP:NCVG:

    "...If a video game series has a naming conflict solely with the first game in the series (e.g., Final Fantasy), the series page should reside at the primary name if the series possesses a minimum of 3 video game articles as well as at least one other unrelated video game or related media item. Otherwise, the first game in the series should occupy the primary name, and the series article should be disambiguated with "... (series)"."

    ...So, with that being said, should the series page be moved to the base title? Steel1943 (talk) 14:45, 17 October 2016 (UTC)--Relisting. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 03:40, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Ebrié → ? – WP:NCET#Self-identification indicates we should prefer autonyms over derogatory terms. Lede of *this* article says the name is derogatory. Tchaman (fr) also indicates they call themselves Tchaman. An authoritative-looking sources here here and here use Tchaman. It looks like the english page is merely translated from the French, but that does not mean the French page is neutral. I am not aware of any opposition to this move, but given that I am not totally familiar with the matter I am logging this as a requested move rather than simply doing it myself. Just trying to chip away at systemic bias -- looks like a vestige of colonialism (?) Elinruby (talk) 03:27, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

October 24, 2016[edit]

  • (Discuss)Diatonic functionTonal function – The name "diatonic function" does not appear to be used anywhere else than on WP; in addition, it may be considered misleading. Harmonic functions (which might by another possible title for this article, but already taken for the mathematical usage) are found and make sense only in tonal music. Hucbald.SaintAmand (talk) 20:38, 13 October 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 17:23, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

October 23, 2016[edit]

  • (Discuss)Son (music)Son cubano – There is more than one style of music known as son (Spanish for "sound"). We have several articles at titles of the proposed sort—Son calentano, Son jalisciense, etc.—and the previous move of this article was based on the now out-of-date fact that the only son genre we had an article for was the cubano (the other being a sub-genre of this). As far as I am aware, the son mexicano is unrelated to the cubano. Srnec (talk) 20:51, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

October 22, 2016[edit]

  • (Discuss)Greek Orthodox ChurchGreek Orthodox – The present title is non-standard and confusing, given that the scope of the article is the label "Greek Orthodox" and not an organization called the "Greek Orthodox Church" (as noted in the article itself, no such organization exists; rather, there are several Churches which use the term "Greek Orthodox" in their name, and several others that are unofficially given this label, with some ambiguity as to which precise Churches qualify). All other articles with a title of the form "______ Orthodox Church" refer to actual organizations, and not to labels applied to several church bodies. The closest parallel to the label "Greek Orthodox" is the label "Slavic Orthodox", and the article for that subject is called simply Slavic Orthodox. The title of that article is therefore an adjective rather than a noun, and I think this is important. A noun title, especially of the form "______ Orthodox Church", suggests that the article refers to a concrete organization, while an adjective title is clearly a label, and therefore fits the scope of this article better. Ohff (talk) 00:46, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

October 21, 2016[edit]

  • (Discuss)Djibouti (city)Djibouti City – This has been proposed before, with not much discussion previously. From what I can tell, it is common for the city to be called either "Djibouti" or "Djibouti City" in English. (We currently use "(city)" to disambiguate the article name from the country, which shares the same name and is at Djibouti.) It is difficult to conduct searches to determine which is more common, since the majority of the hits that result from "Djibouti" alone are going to be for the country. But I get 330,000+ for a Wikipedia-less search of "Djibouti City", with around 3000 in google books, 800 in google news, and 300 in google scholar – so the proposed form is not uncommon. I think using "Djibouti City" would be a more natural form and in line with articles in similar situations, such as Luxembourg City. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:22, 30 September 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. No such user (talk) 09:01, 11 October 2016 (UTC)--Relisting. AjaxSmack  19:08, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Margaret KenyattaMargaret Kenyatta (Mayor of Nairobi) – There are two Margaret Kenyattas, one is the daughter of Kenya's first president Jomo Kenyatta, who was briefly the mayor of Nairobi in the 1970s, while the other is the current First Lady of Kenya, wife of President Uhuru Kenyatta, who also happens to be the half-sister of the other Margaret. Currently the older Margaret (the mayor) occupies the base title, with the First Lady at the title Margaret Gakuo Kenyatta. However, I think this is wrong because the latter is not a commonly used name for her, and we don't usually disambiguate by middle names (or indeed, maiden names, as this may be) unless the person is commonly known with that name. In terms of common usage (in 2016) and page views, [11] the First Lady enjoys about 2-3 as many as the Mayor, so I think she is probably the primary topic. And certainly the older Margaret is not the primary topic - even if we consider long term significance, a First Lady is likely to be at least as enduring in significance as someone who was just a mayor as well as the daughter of the founding president. If we don't switch the primary topic, then we should at least move to a WP:TWODABS disambiguation page with neither topic as primary. As for disambiguator, either "(Mayor of Nairobi)" or "born 1928" would be fine I think - not sure which fits better with our usual customs. It could even be "(politician)", since the First Lady is not technically one, but that might be confusing.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:48, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Plains Indian Sign LanguagePlains Sign Talk – Pejorative nature of the term "Indian" in Canada; understood name in both Canada and US. Searching the names "PISL" "Plains Indian Sign Language" "Plains Sign Language" "First Nation Sign Language" will garner results either through redirection or the introductory note Danachos (talk) 16:37, 13 October 2016 (UTC)--Relisting. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 05:45, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)24K Magic (album)24K Magic – The rationale is simple. Whoever sees the album article, has access to all the songs o the album. But, when we keep the disambiguation (which is not necessary as the album page links to the song article, just like the disambig links to both articles.) We are making things easy for the reader by keeping this page on the suggested title. This is the parent album which covers the song too. It is the only other topic with this name. Similar to Can't Be Tamed, etc. MaranoFan (talk) 09:57, 13 October 2016 (UTC)--Even if the nominator is opposing his own move, it attracted enough attention for this. Relisting to obtain a clearer consensus (if there is one) © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 05:29, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Elapsed listings[edit]

The 7-day listing period has elapsed. Items below may be closed if there's a consensus, or if discussion has run its course and consensus could not be achieved.
  • (Discuss)SebastopolSebastopol (disambiguation) – Dab has a clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of Sebastopol, Crimea . ridiculously surprising obvious primary topic to me for a while which I considered ridiculous that it wasn't fixed by now, but now seemingly contested... : *Sebastopol, Crimea is over 30x size (population) of all other places ** bigger than all others put together *Highest encyclopaedic value - historic, derived names, newsworthy (current) compared to all others items *(and satisfies our guideline of a valid alternative bolded title in the lede per WP:MOSDAB / WP:D ) **Don't put much weight on newer spelling vs older spelling per WP:RECENTISM (e.g. see examples of the spellings of derivative places, which if anything indicates a separate "offtopic" from this RM reason to merge the two dabs, which is tangential to deciding the primary topic here and now) I.e. create (primary topic) redirect from Sebastopol redirecting to Sevastopol. Per usual, we move the dab to Sebastopol (disambiguation) (then format the dab to have a primary topic - partly already done as I considered this uncontroversial maintenance. I think it still is, but the proposal wasn't clearly made). This is happens to be similar (but unrelated) to Sevastopol (disambiguation). Widefox; talk 10:38, 20 October 2016 (UTC)


Elapsed listings fall into the backlog after 24 hours. Consider relisting 8-day-old discussions with minimal participation.
  • (Discuss)Lobby (room)Foyer – per WP:NATURALDIS, and WP:CONCISE. Due to 'lobby' having many meanings it isn't really possible to use an ngram or similar methods to demonstrate one way or the other whether 'foyer' or 'lobby' is the WP:COMMONNAME for the room in question, however WP:NATURALDIS clearly states that "using an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English reliable sources, albeit not as commonly as the preferred-but-ambiguous title" meaning that even if lobby is the more common (which I have my doubts about) then the page should still be moved to foyer. Ebonelm (talk) 22:23, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Tunisia CampaignTunisian Campaign – The adjectival form is more popular (and makes more sense). It is, for example, in the title of at least two books: Exit Rommel: The Tunisian Campaign, 1942–43 and Birth of an Army: The Story of the Tunisian Campaign. Srnec (talk) 21:42, 10 October 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 12:00, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)PokharelPokhrel – This page is a list of names of people. Even so, not one of the people in this list are actually named what the title of this page currently is. Every single one of them has the name Pokhrel, which for some reason redirects to Laxmi Prasad Devkota. If there is some reason why the requested title currently goes to that name, then we could send it to Pokhrel (surname) instead. Thanks, Gluons12 talk 22:38, 8 October 2016 (UTC). --Relisting. Omni Flames (talk) 04:06, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Template:Based onTemplate:Work by author – I just realized this can be used more than just the |based_on= parameter in infoboxes, such as |opentheme= and |endtheme= for television series/movies, like at Invisible Sister (permalink). Therefore I suggest moving it to a more generic title. I'm open to any better name suggestions as well. Note to closer: If moved, the template must be immediately updated to use the new module name, as there are no redirects in the Module namespace. nyuszika7h (talk) 14:27, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Un Samayal ArayilOggarane (film) – It's more commonly known by it's Kannada name Oggarane. The Tamil and the Telugu versions were unsuccessful at the box office, while the Kannada version became a major success.[4][5][6] Telugu and Tamil received mixed reviews while the Kannada version received positive reviews.[7][8][9] So it should be renamed and move to Oggarane (film).


Ab abhi (talk) 15:15, 3 October 2016 (UTC) --Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:47, 11 October 2016 (UTC)


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