Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2008/April/26
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April 26[edit]
{{Nepali Congress stub}} / Cat:Nepali Congress stubs[edit]
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the debate was delete. Wizardman 17:20, 24 May 2008 (UTC) Unproposed, very un-convention-specific template name, no stubcat parents... and some doubt as to the way it's being used, since it seems to be being used to replace the parent permcat - the stub category has eighteen members, the permcat has only two! Even if those remaining two are also stubs, there's no way this would have the required 60 stubs for a separate category, and at 93 stubs Cat:Nepalese politician stubs is nowehere near being in need of splitting. Delete. Grutness...wha? 00:41, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I did not know that one has to request for a stub template first so, created it. I have requested for a permission now. About the lack of stubs, I can create hundreds of low quality stubs about the senators, martyrs and events related to this party, if required (eg- you can check the list of senators here for potential stubs. I dont believe in littering wikipedia with too many stubs which I cannot manage, so I havent created them yet. These stubs will eventually be created, even if I dont create them. So, I think it is better to have this stub type. Plus, the stub type is not just about Nepalese politicians. Nepali Congress party has led ALL three of the successful political movements of Nepal. So, it pertains to various events of history of Nepal as well. So, basically, it is not just about 60 or 93 articles. This is the first stub that I am creating here. So, I dont know much about the requirements and rules of naming. I think we would be better off making this stub meet wikipedia "rules" rather than deleting it altogether.--Eukesh (talk) 07:32, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Stub types are only made when 60 or more stub articles already exist. In the same way that you don't believe in littering Wikipedia with too many stub articles, stub-sorters don't believe in littering it with more stub templates than are needed. There's no need for a separate stub type for this one party since {{Nepal-politician-stub}} can already be used for people. Any event related to the history of Nepal would currently simply get {{Nepal-stub}}, which is also not so big as to need splitting (a {{Nepal-history-stub}} might be a useful stub type to propose fairly soon). If all those possible future articles you mentioned are created, then it might become necessary for a separate (properly named) stub type to be made - but it isn't needed now. Grutness...wha? 01:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I would suggest a renaming like {{Nepali-Congress-politician-stub}}, and the creation similar stubs for Maoist and UML politicians. There is a process of creating individual articles on all 601 Constituent Assembly members (110 NC articles). --Soman (talk) 13:48, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, since we are in a process of having at least 110 articles related to the topic under consideration, I think that the stub type should stay (rather than being deleted and re-created). However, I think the name Nepalese Congress stub should stay as the stub is supposed to be used not only for articles about politicians but also for articles about sister organizations like Nepalese Woman Organization, Nepalese Student's Union, Nepalese Youth Organization and other articles such as lists related to election results and stuffs. Also, I think creation of stub category of other political parties is necessary. (I wanted to create them myself but could not find a picture to represent only UML and Maoist party and not communism en bloc). Thank you.--Eukesh (talk) 17:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I would suggest a renaming like {{Nepali-Congress-politician-stub}}, and the creation similar stubs for Maoist and UML politicians. There is a process of creating individual articles on all 601 Constituent Assembly members (110 NC articles). --Soman (talk) 13:48, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Stub types are only made when 60 or more stub articles already exist. In the same way that you don't believe in littering Wikipedia with too many stub articles, stub-sorters don't believe in littering it with more stub templates than are needed. There's no need for a separate stub type for this one party since {{Nepal-politician-stub}} can already be used for people. Any event related to the history of Nepal would currently simply get {{Nepal-stub}}, which is also not so big as to need splitting (a {{Nepal-history-stub}} might be a useful stub type to propose fairly soon). If all those possible future articles you mentioned are created, then it might become necessary for a separate (properly named) stub type to be made - but it isn't needed now. Grutness...wha? 01:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Unlike permanent categories, which can be created for a few articles for the purpose of structure, stub categories are created by numerical necessity - when there are at least 60 articles they could hold AND when the parent stub category is over 5 pages or so. There are 510 articles under Cat:Politics of Nepal, 267 of which are Cat:Nepalese politician stubs. There are currently only 51 articles under Cat:Political parties in Nepal, including all Nepalese political parties, so clearly there is not a numerical need for this type. Please do not take this personally; continue work on the articles you plan to add, and return to propose these types when they have 60 articles to tag. Delete. Her Pegship (tis herself) 03:54, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.