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Knowledge on Wikipedia

How much knowledge is there on Wikipedia? Does Wikipedia have the same amount of knowledge as with paper encyclopedias? How do you gain experience? Knowledge542 (talk) 20:28, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Knowledge542, welcome to the teahouse! Wikipedia probably has more knowledge in it then any other encyclopedia ever. That's one of the benefits of being an online encyclopedia - it all gets updated and expanded in real time! As per your second question, simply edit! If you're unsure what you can do, I'd suggest checking out the task center for a good list of things you can try out. From there, you can do all sorts of stuff - copyedit, source, categorize, and maybe even write an article once you feel you're ready! PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 20:38, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

@PhoenixCaelestis How could Wikipedia have more knowledge than any other encyclopedia? Knowledge542 (talk) 21:26, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

@Knowledge542, by volume alone? The World Book Encyclopedia claims to have over 17,000 articles in the 2025 set. Wikipedia has over 6 million. When I was a kid, we had two different full sets Funk & Wagnalls and the World Book, and a third set that was written for an audience of children learners. I read them. A lot. I tried to read cover-to-cover. For World Book, the jump references were too enticing, and I'd end up pulling out a different volume and reading that article. The articles were well edited. But, there were not the many thousands of contributors that Wikipedia has. And, there are only so many pages available. Some encyclopediae are more concise based on subject, or just to keep the page count low. Wikipedia does not have that physical limit. It does not have the same level of editorial oversight. Some articles are sparse or badly written. But they exist, or can be made to exist fairly quickly. This is not the case with an encyclopedia that is frozen in time. Even with the annual yearbook updates, the World Book became stale. Countries changed. Historical and scientific assumptions were disproved. We went from atoms being invisible to printing a photograph of an atom...a huge change in perception, and expensive addendum to a printed encyclopedia.

Have you read much of a conventional encyclopedia set? What has your experience been? Just Al (talk) 22:27, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

@Just Al @PhoenixCaelestis Yes I read a convention encyclopedia set and they look spectacular to me. I wish Wikipedia would be in print. What is the reason on lack of editorial oversight? Knowledge542 (talk) 00:42, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

My experience has been fine to me. Knowledge542 (talk) 00:43, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Primarily, Wikipedia is maintained by volunteers in their own time. Published paper encyclopediae have paid writers, editors, proofreaders, fact-checkers, and other support staff to keep the business running. They also have deadlines. In publishing, there are drop-dead dates that mean an article is pulled and replaced if it is not deemed acceptable when the layouts are locked in before the printing process begins. An article must be polished, or it is scrubbed for another date (or not at all). That pressure will limit the count of articles, but also improve the quality of the few that remain. At Wikipedia, there are no deadlines. And drafts are acceptable to publish because it allows other editors to participate or provide advice. It's always a work-in-progress. Just Al (talk) 17:49, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

@Just Al However, are World Book encyclopedias still relevant today, despite being published annually? Knowledge542 (talk) 04:35, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

I’m still waiting for responses. Knowledge542 (talk) 09:01, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure what information you're looking for. Printed encyclopediae have the goal of making money via library sales and monthly subscriptions from consumers. Wikipedia is not that. Both are sources of information. Only one is able to be cited as a sourth of information. One is curated to a higher degree to meet deadlines, editorial expectations, and production limitations. Only you can answer if they are relevant for you. Just Al (talk) 18:38, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@Just Al I think that print encyclopedias are still relevant to me, despite being in the age of Information Technology world. The digital encyclopedia really did outnumber print though. Knowledge542 (talk) 21:27, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia has more knowledge than any other encyclopedia because it is created and updated by millions of people around the world. Unlike traditional encyclopedias written by a small group of experts, Wikipedia allows anyone to contribute, which means it can cover a much wider range of topics. It is constantly updated, available in many languages, and free to access, making it one of the most comprehensive and up-to-date sources of information globally. Sasolely (talk) 18:03, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

You gain experience by doing things repeatedly, learning from mistakes, and reflecting on what works and what doesn’t. Whether it’s studying, working, practicing a skill, or interacting with others, each time you take action, you build knowledge and confidence. Over time, these experiences help you improve, make better decisions, and handle challenges more effectively. In short: you gain experience by trying, failing, learning, and trying again. Sasolely (talk) 18:05, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Replacing a dead link with an archived version

I've found an article with a link to a dead site (specifically citation six on Joseph Fletcher). I've found an archived version at [1], how would I go about replacing the citation? Vəssel ^{[talk to mə]} 10:59, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

@Vəssel Welcome to the Teahouse. There is general advice at WP:LINKROT. If you run into problems with creating the new citations after reading the instructions, just ask back here for more advice. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:36, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

@Vəssel For better or worse, with the help of your providing the archive link, I have fixed this.

Presumably there are bots that go around repairing what fraction of the links they can, with whatever limited ability they have. It's considerably easier when someone has provided a good archive link, but then again, if a good archive link is readily available, then (I wa under the impression that) the bots should be fixing them.

Properly fixing an archive link (assuming the bots will never catch up) is at least one of the better unmitigated improvements you can make to Wikipedia, and you can be sure there will be ample broken links to work on. The challenge often is actually to find a working archive link. You often need a bag of tricks to locate good archive links, and to my knowledge, there is no place where it's written down, and often what you need to know is not obviously documented. So you can spend a fair amount of time in some cases and pat your self on the back when you've succeeded with a particularly challenging case. Fabrickator (talk) 12:34, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Oh, huh - with this one I just plugged it into the wayback machine and it already had an archive. Maybe I was lucky. Vəssel ^{[talk to mə]} 13:14, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

@Vəssel Thank goodness it already had an archive, because the link was broken as of December 2023, and once the link is broken, it's too late to create the archive. But that means the link has been broken for over a year, why had the bots not fixed it in that period of time?

I would suggest that if Wikipedia doesn't have the resources to keep links working, then the project is on a doomed mission. It take a lot of volunteer resources to make WP what it is, the size of WP constantly grows, but if links break and don't automatically get fixed (even when the archive is readily available), then the project is on a downward trend that will continue to get worse. Fabrickator (talk) 14:44, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Have a look at User:InternetArchiveBot, a bot that can help you proactively add these archive links ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 10:48, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

I had assumed that we have something running InternetArchiveBot and similar bots across all articles ... if we're supposed to be relying on manual invocations, that would not seem like a particularly viable solution. Fabrickator (talk) 01:28, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

I thought so too, but now I can't find documentation for this. In any case, even if a bot is crawling article links automatically, there's a lot of crawling to do so it doesn't hurt to manually poke the bot for articles that we want to prioritise. — ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 01:34, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Selecting a good archive link is really beyond the capability of the bot. Sure, there may be nothing wrong with it most of the time, but if I have to do something manually, I'd rather just do it myself so we can be sure that we're linking to a good archive copy. Fabrickator (talk) 18:44, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Cliché terms: Cult Film, Urban Legend, etc.

I feel that cliché terms like "cult film" and "urban legend" don't necessarily benefit an article. Cliché terms in some articles, like the mention of "cult following" for the film Troll 2, are properly sourced. Other articles have cliché terms, such as "urban legend" in the Jayne Mansfield article, that are unsourced.

I'm interested in learning how to modify a Wikipedia bot to find examples of these terms and manually determine which are unsourced. Assuming I find lots of articles with unsourced cliché terms, should I post a notice on each Talk page to get input before deleting them, or should I notify those who handle Wikipedia policy and get their input?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayne_Mansfield Gamboler (talk) 01:36, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@Gamboler, to rephrase, you're talking about: 1) looking for cliche phrases like "cult following" in the body text of articles, 2) checking to see if this is verified by a citation in the article, and 3) removing the mention of "cult following" or whatever from the article if it's not verified? If that's what you mean, that's fine, just go ahead and do that, no need to get anyone's input. Of course, if someone complains, you'll have to stop and talk it out with them, but until that happens, this is just normal editing, so go ahead and be WP:BOLD. It looks like you have about 7000 articles to check. If it were me, well, I can't say I'd want to bother, but you can spend your time however you like. -- asilvering (talk) 05:43, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@asilvering, thank you very much for your response, and your paraphrase is accurate. How did you find the 7000 article total, and is that only for "cult following" or for the three terms combined? I agree that my attention might wane with so many articles to manually check. Gamboler (talk) 12:49, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

That's just for "cult following", since I forgot to add "urban legend" to that search. 7k+ articles is the number of results. -- asilvering (talk) 20:16, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@Gamboler I for one would not agree these are "cliché terms". They are well established and widely recognized concepts and we have substantial articles on cult films and urban legends. What term would you substitute? Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:51, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@Shantaviral, thanks very much for your reply. You're correct that my calling them "cliché terms" isn't fair, at least without establishing firmer reasoning for doing so. Thank you for pointing out that I need to further research these terms to clarify my thinking about how best to describe them. You pose an interesting question about what term to use. I'll review the articles you mentioned, as well as their sources. I'll focus any editing efforts only on those that aren't sourced. Gamboler (talk) 12:57, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

How should I bring a discussion to a larger audiences?

Hello! I need advice on how should I bring a discussion about artists' song and album listicles which was discussed on Stray Kids' accolades page because it's only discussed cluelessly between the two of us. Should I go to each WikiProject's talk page and ask them to join the discussion on Stray Kids' page or should I ask for a new discussion in one of the WikiProject's talk page while mentioning my past discussion?— Shenaall (t ♣ c) 02:28, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@Shenaall, the Teahouse is probably wide enough to give you an answer to your question, but I don't have a clue what you're asking on that talk page. Can you give us some better context? -- asilvering (talk) 05:34, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@Asilvering, it is about this listicles that I added in this revision. I and PepeBonus were confused about "should we include listicles about the best songs/albums of 20XX (which is not focused to the artist) to the artist's accolades article or not?". Some example from the Featured List of other artists' accolades include them (SB19, Bini & Tyla) but some only include listicles that has the title "Best of All Time" or "Best of decades" (Taylor Swift & SZA). To avoid edit conflict, I open the discussion — Shenaall (t ♣ c) 06:19, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@Shenaall You can try WP:APPNOTEing related wikiprojects, they are listed at the top of Talk:List of awards and nominations received by Stray Kids, lists and pop music perhaps. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:45, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång Thank you for your advice!— Shenaall (t ♣ c) 03:18, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Need help with article

I need help in order to make Avraham Zagdon's article good enough for mainspace. I do not know how to write such pages, and have never written an article from scratch. I dumped a few sources and stuff there, but there are things in all of the sources I have yet to add as text to the draft. I would like help with:

1. Proof reading the stuff I added from Hebrew sources, and expanding on it (This request is for Hebrew speakers, I have used AI to extract content from Hebrew sources)
2. Help add more information from Garb's book (in addition to the Hebrew sources I have mentioned earlier)
3. Help formatting everything

The Hebrew research I did was assisted by translators. If you are a native speaker, I would greatly appreciate if you could search for more information yourself as well Someonefighter (talk) 08:59, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Someonefighter: whilst it's not impossible to get such topic- and language-specific help at the Teahouse, it's quite a long shot given the generic scope, and transient nature (messages posted tend to get archived pretty quickly), of this forum. You may want to try your luck with one (or more) of the WikiProjects instead, such as WikiProject Judaism. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:24, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

I have posted requests in their talk page, but they are not active at all so I figured I'd request help here. Also, the general organization questions do not require Judaism-interested people. Thank you for your response and suggestions Someonefighter (talk) 10:46, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@Someonefighter You might do better to look at Category:User he-N. If you have navigation popups activated, you can rapidly scan by hover-over to find users fluent in Hebrew who have edited recently. Then you could politely ask them for assistance via their talk page. Whether people will be interesting in helping you draft a biography about someone who is a leader of a messianic cult is another question.... Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:39, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! Will do Someonefighter (talk) 12:04, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

"Books radiate spiritual power, even unopened, especially those linked to his teachings. Therefore the best way to read is a book in hand and several lying around." The article Antilibrary already exists but it invites augmentation. Simply googling for unread books site:theguardian.com brings a fair amount of commentary (admittedly pretty lightweight). -- Hoary (talk) 12:08, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

I am not sure what to do with your suggestion. None of the sources you suggested explain or can be linked to this cult teaching Someonefighter (talk) 14:18, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Someonefighter, if your plans for an article on this fellow fall through, then, reliable sources permitting, you might be able to put certain bits of the intended article within other, existing articles. -- Hoary (talk) 22:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggestion, I will look into it. Do you have any suggestions? Someonefighter (talk) 06:57, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

I've read the draft, and I'm left wondering whether he's a fraudster or a practical joker. But I can't read Hebrew, so I've no right to comment. Maproom (talk) 13:29, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

I have done extensive research on the guy from before I started contributing to wikipedia. [ WP:BLP applies] Someonefighter (talk) 13:56, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

How do I request an assessment box for a wikiproject?

How do I ask for or create an assessment box for Wikipedia:WikiProject World Heritage Sites. Nevermind I was trying to make one of those rectangular boxes which tell you what importance and class an article is and I succeeded, thanks for everyones responses. Easternsahara (talk) 17:09, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi there Easternsahara. In general, when an article is of interest to a certain WikiProject, the relevant WikiProject banner template is placed at the top of the talk page like this:

{{WikiProject banner shell |class= |
{{WikiProject World Heritage Sites |importance= }}
}}

You can see the specific guidelines for the WikiProject you mention at Wikipedia:WikiProject World Heritage Sites/Assessment. While that page has a Requests for assessment subsection it seems to be inactive, so instead I suggest you try assessing it yourself! The class parameter classifies how well-written the article is. You can grade the article with the grading scheme. The only restriction is that good articles (with the green-plus icon) and featured articles (with the star icon) have a more formal review process. The importance parameter indicates how much priority a WikiProject gives to a certain article. It's somewhat subjective but you can guide yourself with the table in this page (ignore the rest of the page, it's about a discontinued project). Feel free to ask any other questions. Have a nice day :) –The Sophocrat (talk) 20:07, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Image Linked in Text

I'm having trouble finding any relevant MoS entries regarding linking an image directly in text rather than having it appear in the article. For example: green sea turtle. Should images used in an article always be visible? Or is linking an image in this way acceptable? Amstrad00 (talk) 17:15, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Amstrad00, and welcome to the Teahouse. Images that can't be uploaded may be linked in an "External links" section, provided this is justified along the lines of ELYES. They should almost never be used in the text. ColinFine (talk) 18:12, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

That's an internal image link. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:19, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

In theory you can do it, but why would you want to? How does that serve the reader more than displaying the image would do? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:20, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

The instance I saw it come up in and was unsure about was on an article that already had what feels like too many images and the linked image was being used in an attempt by another editor to serve as a psudo-citation for an uncited statement. I was hoping to be linked a concrete MoS entry I could cite in my edit summary to support de-linking the image. In the end I decided to just be WP:BOLD and just remove the statement that was tagged as uncited for 5 years. Amstrad00 (talk) 21:32, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Age and oversight

I am confused. What age a person should reach to provide personal information without being suppressed? CreatorTheWikipedian2009 (talk) 17:35, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello @CreatorTheWikipedian2009! Oversight's FAQ says that "[t]hough the English Wikipedia is not bound by the American Children's Online Privacy Protection Act, which causes many websites to bar users under thirteen, [they] do take the safety and privacy of minors, both over thirteen and under, quite seriously." I believe it is primarily on a case-by-case basis. I hope this answers your question! PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 17:58, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

That wasn't the answer! The FAQ says that any personal information, provided by a person under 18 will be deleted, while WP:FORKIDS, and an age notice in Wikipedia:Userboxes/Life#Age_and_generation say that you shouldn't provide personal information (e.g. your age, name, location) until you turn 16. What's the age where you can provide your information without oversight? CreatorTheWikipedian2009 (talk) 18:09, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@CreatorTheWikipedian2009: This is ultimately a judgment call on the part of the suppressors. I would look at WP:Protecting children's privacy, however. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 18:12, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Does person's personal information get suppressed if they are between 16 and 18? In their user page? CreatorTheWikipedian2009 (talk) 18:15, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@CreatorTheWikipedian2009: That is a judgment call on the part of the suppressors. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 18:17, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @CreatorTheWikipedian2009, and welcome to the Teahouse. Please note that WP:FORKIDS says that it is an essay, not a Wikipedia policy; so I would suggest that the Oversight FAQ takes precedence. If you are concerned at this inconsistency, discuss it on the talk page WT:Guidance for younger editors. ColinFine (talk) 18:18, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Okay. CreatorTheWikipedian2009 (talk) 18:20, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

"The FAQ says that any personal information, provided by a person under 18 will be deleted" Which FAQ, and which part of it? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:13, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

WP:Oversight/FAQ, as Creator said, @Andy. The fourth item in "Types of content that may or may not require suppression". ColinFine (talk) 19:55, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

That does not say "any personal information, provided by a person under 18 will be deleted". Quite the opposite; it makes clear that "discretion will apply to the specifics of any individual case". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:08, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

What specifics? CreatorTheWikipedian2009 (talk) 20:28, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@CreatorTheWikipedian2009: Specifics are dependent on the individual suppressor and situation. Stop asking the question; you're not going to get a single hard-and-fast answer to this (and those who are in a position to give one for themselves aren't going to). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 22:44, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

What to do when uncertain

So, I stumbled upon this page. And I think it should be deleted. However, I'm uncertain if it truly should. to me it looks like a word salad, but it has plenty of sources. The thing that bugs me is that I don't know what the article is. At no point does this article cohesively tell me what "Childfree Russia" aims to do. Is shipping this article to AfD an overstep? ☩ ^{(Babysharkboss2)} 17:35, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Welcome to the teahouse @Babysharkboss2. I think I agree with your assessment, I don't think this fits WP:ORG or the related guidelines, so it should be able to be deleted under G8 of the deletion policy. I would contact the creator of the page and ask them about it but they haven't been online for over a year.. I'd ask on their talk page anyway and propose the page for deletion if you don't get a response in a few days. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 17:51, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

The first thing to do is follow the process described at WP:BEFORE. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:09, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

I agree with you, Babysharkboss2. I don't understand the objective of the movement described in the article. As far as I'm aware, the government of Russia does not compel its citizens to procreate. But the lack of explanation is not a reason to delete the article. It is a reason to encourage the article's creator, GeryLud, to clarify the nature of the disagreement between the Russian government and the Childfree Russia movement. Maproom (talk) 22:55, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Image formatting

I want to start uploading some of my pictures, and uploaded one to this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kiyomizu-dera&oldid=1291201948

I wanted to put it in the “gallery” section with the other pictures, but when I pasted it, it was all big.

How do I do it correctly? DankPedia (talk) 18:34, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

You need to specify that the images are shown as "thumbnnails". See WP:IMAGES. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:07, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello again DankPedia :). For a first introduction on handling images in articles, see Help:Introduction to images with Wiki Markup/3, and for more details check out Wikipedia:Extended image syntax (there's a subsection on size specifically). Feel free to ask any other questions. Thank you for your contributions! –The Sophocrat (talk) 19:23, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

If you want your picture in a gallery, you should see in the page source a section led by a <gallery> tag and ending with a closing </gallery> tag, with a list of images and descriptions in between. Just add the name of your image to the list. There is no need to precede the name with the File: designation. ~Anachronist (talk) 14:23, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Site guidelines on ongoing legal cases

Hi all. I was planning on making a page of a case currently working its way through the courts that has received several judgements from the Supreme Court as of the past several days. I haven't been able to find any specific site guidelines that point to whether or not current cases can be discussed, but I know that normally information on pages for elections that haven't occurred and (potential) candidates for those elections is supposed to be kept to a minimum. If anybody could shed some light on this it would be appreciated.

All the best - CSGinger14 (talk) 22:04, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@CSGinger14 Wikipedia has plenty of articles about upcoming elections and court cases; e.g. the bluelinked articles listed at List of pending United States Supreme Court cases and List of elections in 2026. If the case has been discussed in reliable sources then it should probably have an article.

I don't think there's a need to keep information about upcoming elections to a minimum, other than following the WP:NPOL notability guideline for candidates and filtering out routine news items such as "Candidate holds a rally". Helpful Raccoon (talk) 05:18, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

can someone help me find more images for Italian brainrot characters?

The Italian brainrot page is lacking multiple characters and I need images of them. MarkofGorillaTag (talk) 22:11, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi MarkofGorillaTag. Please link to the article which you are looking. I think you should make a list of characters that you believe that are missing. You can upload a images here yourself but that images must comply with the copyright policies. Fade258 (talk) 01:55, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Characters of Italian brainrot (probably) GoldRomean (talk) 02:42, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

As other users might have said, images must not be copyrighted. After finding a reliable source, you can upload to Commons and then add the image. Cooldudeseven7 _talk^contribs 14:44, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

but how do I check if an image is copyrighted? because Google only says "image May or May not be copyrighted." MarkofGorillaTag (talk) 19:29, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

In the United States (whose copyright laws me must follow because the servers are there) by default (generally) the creator of a piece of media owns the copyright for said media for a long time. However I'm not sure how that works with AI image generation... I would check out Commons:AI-generated media for advice. If you can't verify the copyright status of an image, do not upload it. For Wikipedia, it's preferable (well, mandatory) for have an article to have less images than to break our copyright policy. If you have other questions feel free to ask. The Sophocrat (talk) 19:59, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

ok, so I wont upload the images (since its really hard to verify ai generated images made by random TikTok users) MarkofGorillaTag (talk) 20:34, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Generally, images generated by AI are not copyrighted; there only seems to be exceptions if they originate from the UK or Hong Kong (again, generally). The only exception is the situational classification of such images as derivative works due to many of them being trained on copyrighted content. The link Sophocrat sent explains this in more detail. — rae^5e <talk> 13:46, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

How to restore an article?

Hi all,

The page HaKol HaYehudi used to contain an article about an Israeli newspaper, but now it redirects to an irrelevant article which mentions it once.

I would like to restore the page. The decision to delete it (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/HaKol HaYehudi) was voted on by one person (they voted to delete it, I don't know how it became a redirect).

How should I go about it? Tioaeu8943 (talk) 01:32, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi Tioaeu8943. If you believe that the deletion was improper or consensus was not established then you can file a deletion review here. Fade258 (talk) 01:45, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi, Tioaeu8943! In my view, to successfully restore the article, we must show that the newspaper meets the criteria for a standalone article, sometimes called WP:GNG or "[wiki]notability". That involves seeing how many reliable secondary sources independent of the subject cover the subject beyond a passing mention (significant coverage). In this specific case, we would need to see significant coverage on the paper itself, not the raid. With enough appropriate sources, you can simply restore an older version of the article and improve it with said sources. If not enough such sources exist, not even deletion review can help. Finding and analyzing sources is not a trivial task and can trip up even experienced editors. As for the original deletion discussion, the nomination statement ends with Should be redirected to Yitzhar#2011 or deleted (wikilink original). Deletion discussions are not a vote, and closers try to use alternatives to deletion whenever possible; the discussion generated no opposition to redirecting. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 03:39, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

The article was never deleted. It is still all there in the history: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=HaKol_HaYehudi&action=history

You can restore one of the recent revisions to draft space for improvement and submit it for review. ~Anachronist (talk) 14:07, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Help

How do I search Wikipedia category? Eunice Ameh (talk) 10:27, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

For example, search for "cheese incategory:food" (without quotes). For more search tips, see Help:Searching. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:29, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you Eunice Ameh (talk) 10:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

 Note: This is used to find a page in a category. For searching directly for categories in general, you can search Category:put search term here Cooldudeseven7 _talk^contribs 14:39, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

New Article

Heyo yall, im just here to ask for some constructive criticism on another article im making. Draft:VOICEPEAK here is the draft WalkTheEarth (talk) 10:32, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

@Waalktheeaarth Welcome to the Teahouse. Your draft has so little content at present that it is difficult to comment except to say that its two sources (Twitter and Fandom) are not considered of high quality. You would be advised to read the essay WP:BACKWARDS to get some general advice. I'm not sure why you say that the name of the program is stylised VOICEPEAK, since the logo you have uploaded isn't. In any case, Wikipedia will use the lower-case title. I think that you will struggle to show how this software is wikinotable and that should be your main focus. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:43, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

@Waalktheeaarth I'm noticing that your only sources are Twitter and Fandom, neither of which establish notability. MallardTV ^{Talk to me!} 11:04, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Jordan & Bek Ge'ez creating article

I was wandering if I create an article about them. Lirress 3 (talk) 12:21, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

If they meet the notability qualities for music artists, then yes! Please see this segment about the notability of such people. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 12:41, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Then what should we do? Lirress 3 (talk) 12:48, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

If they meet the requirements, then you can create this page. It is a draft article, and you can then begin working on the article. Once it is finished, you can submit it for review. You should read this page, which contains information about creating your first article. You'll need to find reliable and independent sources which establish Wikipedia notability in order for your draft to be approved. If the draft gets declined, don't worry. Follow the reviewer's advice and submit it again once you feel you have addressed their concerns. Best of luck! PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 13:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Also, please describe who is this "we" you are referring to? Is your account shared by multiple people? ~Anachronist (talk) 14:03, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

As Anachronist (talk · contribs) said, ...please describe who is this "we" you are referring to? Is your account shared by multiple people?, Sharing accounts is NOT allowed, as according to this quote:
Sharing an account – or the password to an account – with others is not permitted, and evidence of doing so will result in the user being required to stop the practice and change their password, or in sanctions (up to and including the account being blocked), depending on circumstances.. You can read more here Cooldudeseven7 _talk^contribs 14:49, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Oldest motorcycle club in Canada

In wikipedia it says The red devils from Hamilton is the oldest club 1948 it is not The Blackhawks mc from Hamilton est.1938 50.100.188.108 (talk) 15:04, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi! Please link the article you are referring to. Also, do you have a reliable source supporting this? GoldRomean (talk) 15:55, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

What is “LTA edit summary or editing pattern hit (Oshwah)”

I triggered this filter on Cincinnati. I know an LTA is a long-term abuser, but what does this filter do. Does it stop you from making the edit. Will it make you get blocked? 2600:100C:B05E:DD9A:E522:B53E:A047:CE2E (talk) 15:36, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello IP. I checked the edit and it looks like your edit summary was Update. I assume a lot of LTAs use that edit summary which is why it was logged. The edit still went through. Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 15:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Greetings. Edit filters are capable of detecting and automatically stopping certain edits identified as nonconstructive. They sometimes get false positives though, so an edit filter can't (as of writing) automatically block users. I myself once triggered an edit filter with constructive edits, and it was marked as a false positive and nothing else occurred. Have a nice day :) –The Sophocrat (talk) 19:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

I triggered it again on User talk:Ahecht 2600:100C:B05E:DD9A:E522:B53E:A047:CE2E (talk) 18:31, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Is adding lyrics in wikipedia articles of songs ok ?

hello i am new here and i see that most of the articles on songs usually do not have lyrics in them is this a section i need to make or is it usually looked down upon Narventer (talk) 15:50, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Narventer, unfortunately, adding song lyrics in full would be a copyright violation. ☩ ^{(Babysharkboss2)} 15:51, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

oh ok thanks for the headsup Narventer (talk) 15:56, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Narventer, the full lyrics of songs first published in the US in 1929 and before are now out of copyright. But it is not usually encyclopedic to include complete lyrics. It is best to include specific brief quotes from the lyrics that have been discussed and analyzed in reliable sources. That is acceptable for all songs. Cullen328 (talk) 05:41, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Why multiple accounts can’t be used to contribute to the same page or article in a way that suggests that they are multiple people?

After reading Wikipedia:BADSOCK, what I found interesting is “Contributing to the same page or discussion with multiple accounts: Editors may not use more than one account to contribute to the same page or discussion in a way that suggests they are multiple people.”

But can you please all explain why can’t you create multiple accounts just to pretend to be multiple people or mislead that they are different people? Why these multiple accounts should never be used to edit the same article, unless linked and disclosed each other? Why is this considered sockpuppetry? And why is this forbidden to use more than one account to pose as multiple editors? And why it is considered a policy? However, why it couldn’t be used to look like more than one editor contributing to Wikipedia? Thanks. 2600:387:F:4B16:0:0:0:9 (talk) 17:15, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Same reason why voting fraud is illegal in elections. There is no legitimate reason to lie to other editors by making them believe your socks are multiple people. It gives an unfair advantage to the sockmaster if they are not caught. It sets an atmosphere where we cannot trust each other. Why do you think this should be allowed? Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 17:28, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

I’m only talking about using multiple accounts to edit the same article or page. 2600:387:F:4B16:0:0:0:9 (talk) 18:01, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

There is no real reason for a constructive editor to want to edit a page using multiple accounts. GoldRomean (talk) 18:40, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

It's still lying and can be used to pretend there is a consensus. like user:tarlby said, there isn't any reason to do so unless you had malicious intent mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 18:42, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

@Tarlby @Mgjertson Yeah right? I don’t think that this should be allowed. Can this be the same with help desks, when voting or consensus is not involved? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:15, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Rewards

How to achieve all rewards Sasolely (talk) 17:44, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Sasolely. Can you clarify what you mean? Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 17:46, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

I try to achieve communicator reward, but still can’t get after trying for many times. Sasolely (talk) 17:50, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Can anyone answer? Sasolely (talk) 17:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Looks like something related to WP:TWA, Ocaasi sorry for the ping but you're probably the best person to answer this. GoldRomean (talk) 18:05, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

This is more of a @Pppery question, although this issue is probably more about triggering the right action than anything wrong with the game or a bug. Ocaasi ^{t | c} 18:40, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

It looks like you never actually completed Mission 2 properly - if you had it would have autoposted something like WP:TWA/MyTalk/2 to your TWA talk page, which it didn't. (It's intentional that TWA lets you skin missions and start Mission 3 before completing Mission 2). If you ran into specific issue with the mission, please explain what it is.

Also, don't worry two much about what badges you get - they're mostly meaningless bling and the rest of the community won't really care as you've proven yourself as a communicator by posting here ... * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:11, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

I have been trying to answer anyone’s questions or even post my own question and interact to others but it still doesn’t work. 😭 Sasolely (talk) 13:42, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

The one thing I can say is to make sure to not publish your reply until the tour tells you to do so by pointing to the reply button. Or, if you really want, skip that step and continue the tour (and earn your badge) here. Finally, Wikipedia is not about recognition or bling, so you're caring way more than is reasonable. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Basic question

Hi, I'm new here and trying to learn more about Wikipedia. I was wondering, how do you know that anything on Wikipedia is *true*? Sasolely (talk) 17:49, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Sasolely. You can always check the reliable sources at the bottom of any article that should (hopefully) be cited. Wikipedia mainly relies upon secondary sources for its information, so you should treat it as a tertiary source. Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 17:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. Sasolely (talk) 17:56, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

@Sasolely It is important that you read Wikipedia:General disclaimer. (There is a link to this at the foot of every Wikipedia page). Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:08, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Article Accuracy (List of Turkish Football Champions)

I would like to know why the following article represents "unrecognized" championships as recognized? How is this in line with Wikipedia's accuracy guidelines..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Turkish_football_champions 162.223.16.47 (talk) 18:04, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with this article, but I believe it's because it's titled List of Turkish football champions, not List of recognized Turkish football champions. The unrecognized ones are notable, and thus should be included. GoldRomean (talk) 18:41, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Article Accuracy (List of Turkish Football Champions)

I would like to know why the following article represents "unrecognized" championships as recognized? How is this in line with Wikipedia's accuracy guidelines..

List of Turkish football champions. 162.223.16.47 (talk) 18:05, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Please don't repost, someone will get to your question soon! GoldRomean (talk) 18:12, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Link with special characters

Hello! I would like to embed the link https://www.amazon.com/Hardened-Accessories-Temperature-Wear-Resistant-1-75Consumables/dp/B0CN14LBMJ?gQT=1 into a footnote, but make it appear as these, but the link includes the characters "=" and "?", which causes it to break the footnote. How can I fix this issue? Commandant Quacks-a-lot (talk) 18:23, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, can you please explain what you want it to appear as? It seems you've accidentally linked the Google homepage instead of whatever it was you intended. Out of my own personal curiosity, what article are you trying to embed this link in? mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 18:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

@mgjertson Because I couldn't get the original link to work, I just used google.com as a placeholder. The article I'm putting it into is Draft:Nueva Montaña Quijano, specifically footnote "ii" (Although upon further research, it doesn't seem to be what I thought it was at first). Commandant Quacks-a-lot (talk) 21:59, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

@Commandant Quacks-a-lot, you can fix the issue by removing the ? and everything after it. But also - why are you trying to cite an amazon sales listing? -- asilvering (talk) 18:49, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

@Commandant Quacks-a-lot: It works here to just remove the end as said above. There are different ways to make footnotes but you probably encountered the issue at the second bullet at Help:Template#Hints and workarounds which gives more general solutions. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:29, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! I'm trying to show a couple possible products that an unspecific term in one of my original sources may be referring to. Commandant Quacks-a-lot (talk) 22:03, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

@Commandant Quacks-a-lot, I'm not sure exactly because I'm not seeing it in the context you intended, but my strong suspicion is that the edit you were hoping to make would be WP:OR anyway. Typically we only want to include things that are mentioned in secondary sources. -- asilvering (talk) 22:24, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out the WP:OR bit. I'm going to leave the footnote in there for now, but if it gets deleted, so be it. Commandant Quacks-a-lot (talk) 22:33, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Follow-up to Adding my Book Series to Wikipedia

Adding my Book Series to Wikipedia

Add my book series "The Talisman Series" to Wikipedia Google search for my name and the series and there is more than enough information to have it added.

Thank you! Brett salter Mojarra69 (talk) 18:36, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Please provide multiple reliable sources showing notability and significant coverage of this book. You can request an article at WP:REQ, or write the article yourself, though you must then declare your conflict of interest. GoldRomean (talk) 18:38, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Putting this text into Google only brings up results about a book by Stephen King. You will have to do the work yourself to show you should have an article. Why should others do it for you? Osa Akwamarynowa (talk) 11:19, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Working on my first article

So, I am looking into working on a new article for Wikipedia focused on covering another wiki's existence (Consumer Rights Wiki), however, as I am a prolific contributor on this other wiki, I do feel some concerns due to the conflict of interest rules established by Wikipedia. Should I consider leaving this towards a contributor who exists on this wiki or simply abandon the article's idea entirely? JamesTDG (talk) 19:56, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

You should follow the guidance at WP:COI. If the wiki meets the criteria at WP:N, you can draft an article about it using WP:AFC, and an independent editor will review it. Then you should only make requests for changes on its talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:36, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

biography of a professor

hello, i am editing a biography of my supervisor. i submitted to review and the comments are that i need to add reliable sources, but i added sources to prove the sentences that i wrote. I wonder where should i add more sources and how is reliable or how is not, it is not clear enough.

Draft:Bart Van der Bruggen - Wikipedia Yzlei (talk) 21:18, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Yzlei, and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 21:32, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Yzlei, as I look through the draft, I get the strong impression that it was written by somebody other than the person who wrote the question above. Can you comment on this? -- Hoary (talk) 22:51, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

really? but i wrote the draft, and i also asked this question. there is no one else involved Yzlei (talk) 03:23, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

@Yzlei It looks to me as though this academic will pass the relevant notability guideline on a number of counts. However, your draft has many problems. For example, to show he was awarded the Prince Sultan bin Abdulaziz International Prize for Water you need to cite that Prize's website (or, better an independent source) not just give what is in effect a wikilink to that article. Similarly for editorial posts he holds/held. Also, remove the peacock language. Let his accomplishments speak for themselves. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:57, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

The article reads like advertising, not encyclopedic knowledge. The user subpage User:Yzlei/Sample page is a résumé, and is written from the POV of the professor, saying "I am active reviewer..." and "I am active in development...". Just Al (talk) 15:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Would like to redirect a redirect

I created an article on Lenny Solomon. Currently, Lenny Solomon re-directs to Schlock Rock. I would appreciate advice on how to direct Lenny Solomon to my new article. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 23:14, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Not quite, Allthemilescombined1. Somebody created the article Lenny Solomon (American-Israeli musician), which unsurprisingly is about a musician named Lenny Solomon. We read that he's in his mid-sixties and there's no hint that he's Canadian. There's also an article titled Lenny Solomon -- and I mean an actual article, not a redirect. We read that its subject is in his early seventies and is Canadian; we don't read that he's Israeli. (The two Lenny Solomons also appear to play different kinds of music.) Now, what do you want to happen to the article that's currently titled "Lenny Solomon"? (Are you asking for the addition of Template:For at its top?) -- Hoary (talk) 23:46, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi Allthemilescombined1. Your post is very confusing. Lenny Solomon is an old article about another musician, not a redirect. You created Lenny Solomon (American-Israeli musician). I guess you mean Lenny solomon with lowercase s which was a redirect to Shlock Rock, not Schlock Rock with Sc which also redirects to Shlock Rock. I have changed the redirect target to Lenny Solomon. A lowercase surname should not lead to a different page. I have added a hatnote pointing to your new article to Lenny Solomon.[2] I don't know which of the musicians is more notable. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you @Hoary and @PrimeHunter. Could we create a disambiguation page so that searches for Lenny Solomon suggest both options? Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 00:17, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

We could indeed; but would it be a good idea? Please digest Wikipedia:Disambiguation. -- Hoary (talk) 01:06, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes, it would be a good idea. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 01:26, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Currently, somebody wanting to look up the American-Israeli musician would probably look up Lenny Solomon, whereupon they'd be told: "This article is about the Canadian musician. For the American-Israeli musician, see Lenny Solomon (American-Israeli musician)." Somebody wanting to look up the Canadian musician would probably look up Lenny Solomon and immediately arrive at the page about him. If "Lenny Solomon" were a disambiguation page, then whichever Lenny Solomon people were looking for, they'd probably have to go through the disambiguation page. How would this be more desirable? -- Hoary (talk) 05:28, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Indeed. Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Primary_topic_with_only_one_other_topic says "If there are only two topics to which a given title might refer, and one is the primary topic, then a disambiguation page is not needed—it is sufficient to use a hatnote on the primary topic article, pointing to the other article." Maproom (talk) 08:24, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

They are equally notable. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 09:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I've moved the Canadian Lenny Solomon to Lenny Solomon (Canadian musician) so we can have disambiguation without creating a page. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 11:09, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

@PhoenixCaelestis Thank you. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 22:51, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Quick fix for a broken template?

Just curious if anyone could take a look at this broken template. Template:Jewish Encyclopedia

The Talk page had a couple editors that now seem to be offline, so thought someone here might be able to take a look to see if the template can be fixed. The "title" value is showing an error wherever that template is being used. If the template can be easily be fixed, please do so. If not feel, free to add any comments to that Talk page if you have any ideas. 24.96.215.116 (talk) 00:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

I see no error in any examined page using the template, e.g. Amnon#References. Please post an example with the problem. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:30, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

NOTNEWS question

Hello! I know there are more official avenues on the encyclopedia to ask this question, but just as a quick check, I wanted to see what others thought on if Maxim Lepushenko, the recently-detained administrator of Belarusian-language Wikipedia, could have his own article? I have a number of good sources I've found (1, 2, 3, 4), and some others with no credited author but still look good (5, 6, 7) but they're all dated recently. Without spending too much time on this, could someone give their thoughts on if this violate NOTNEWS, or can an article be made? Cheers! Johnson524 01:04, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Most of the articles are very short and simply state he was detained and nothing else. Imagine if you were to take those seven sources and write a Wikipedia article about him. How much could you really say? I think not a lot. So, I think this can be considered WP:NOTNEWS. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 01:52, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

@Sungodtemple: I completely agree, thanks for your second opinion! Johnson524 01:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Dictionary of National Biography and notability

Hi, just checking on something. Does an article sourced only to an entry in the 1900 Dictionary of National Biography automatically pass WP:GNG, or should WP:SIGCOV still be found in multiple sources? Boynamedsue (talk) 05:49, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

@Boynamedsue See WP:ANYBIO point three; there's probably been AfDs or merge discussions that have decided against stand-alone biographies in certain cases, but the Dictionary of National Biography is typically much more selective than we are with the GNG. People at AfD will !vote keep on that basis alone, but if you look in the right places, you're almost certainly going to find additional sources anyway. And, while the text in the two articles I think you're looking at obviously came from the 1900 edition, the two subjects have new entries in the 2004 edition. Facts should be sourceable to the more modern edition, if you're that worried about age. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 06:37, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Understood, there's no point nominating for deletion then. It's not really the age that worries me, more the absence of sourcing on the page and in the DNB, and the lack of any sourcing for the older Fothergill online. It is likely that sigcov exists somewhere in print in 19th and early 20th century sources, I suppose, but are we supposed to go on "it's likely"? I'm really uncomfortable with articles lifted wholesale from out of copyright tertiary sources, and if it were up to me they'd all be deleted by a cleansing bot. But it isn't and they won't, so that's by the by.Boynamedsue (talk) 06:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Moving Article to Draft Namespace

Hi everyone,

I hope you're all doing well!

I've prepared an article in my user sandbox about Dr. Dylan Attard, and I would like to request that it be moved to the Draft namespace for review and further improvement. I’ve made a few requests on the relevant talk page, but I haven’t received a response yet.

Could someone kindly assist me with moving the page, or let me know if there’s anything I should do differently?

Thank you so much for your time and support Dr. Dylan Attard (talk) 07:28, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: User:Dr._Dylan_Attard/sandbox   Maproom (talk) 08:26, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

@Dr. Dylan Attard It is technically quite easy to move your draft into the Draft namespace but I'm not going to do that. Instead, I'd like to advise you against proceeding with this attempt at an autobiography because it has virtually no chance of being accepted into Wikipedia. Please read that link and the policy on biographies of living people to understand why. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:39, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello Dylan. I agree with everything Mike has said, as your article is unsourced and seems to mostly be written to promote yourself so is not appropriate for Wikipedia.

I also wanted to add though that you said you have “made a few requests on the relevant talk page” but you have only posted on your own talk page, which is where users would go to send you messages. You have effectively sent those messages to yourself and it is likely nobody else has seen them until today. I am glad you were able to find the Teahouse in order to get help instead. -- NotCharizard ^🗨 13:06, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

@Dr. Dylan Attard Adding to Michael D. Turnbull (talk · contribs), you also do need to follow the MOS (manual of style.) Specifically,

• MOS:GOODHEAD and others not listed here.

Please also see the following pages-

• Wikipedia:AUTOPROBLEM, WP:YOURSELF, and WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY in general
• WP:COIE (more in depth version here)

Cooldudeseven7 _{talk/contribs} 13:11, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Unable to add reference

In Visual editing, I am unable to add book review in old news paperand magazine . I have the link to news paperand magazine. will you pl help Adigesi (talk) 08:11, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

@Adigesi To which article are you referring? If you mean your sandbox, the dates are formatted incorrectly. See WP:REFBEGIN. You don't need to link to the newspaper article, just cite it. However, your draft will not be accepted for publication as we already have an extensive article about the Volkswagen emissions scandal. I suggest you focus your efforts there by making suggestions on the article talk page. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:00, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

If you’re using Wikipedia’s Visual Editor and want to add a book review from an old newspaper or magazine, just click “Edit” at the top, place your cursor where the review should be cited, and hit the “Cite” button (the little quote mark). If it doesn’t auto-fill from your link, choose “Manual” or “Basic” and fill in the details like title, author, publication, date, and link. Then hit “Insert” — and you’re done! If the review is behind a paywall or in an archive, just link to the page and note that it’s archived or requires access. Sasolely (talk) 13:22, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Auto-importing category entries from another wiki?

Sometimes there are useful categories from another wiki that can be imported into en-wiki, like this one, where there are hundreds of entries which is just cumbersome to add manually. Is there a just more simple way to do this? Xpander (talk) 09:18, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Xpander1, and welcome to the Teahouse. I don't know for sure that there is no way, but I would be surprised, because in order to add a hundred articles to a category, you would need to edit every one of those hundred articles.

Having said that, it is possible that it could be done by a bot, or by WP:AWB (which I have never used and don't know how to use). ColinFine (talk) 10:33, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Is it ever reasonable to conclude that an entity is defunct, or would it necessarily constitute OR to change an "is" to a "was"?

I came across our article on an institution called "Knightsbridge University", an apparent diploma mill. On its talk page, someone in 2010 has noted that Knightsbridge University appears to have no activity anywhere, and 15 years later, I find no sign of life. The article also notes that in 2009 Danish authorities ordered it to stop calling itself a "university", so that might count towards changing the "is" in the opening sentence to "was" in this particular case.

But there seems to be a more general question, namely: at what point is it reasonable to conclude that some (corporate, perhaps online) entity has become defunct, on the basis of not being able to find any sign that it is still active, or would doing so always constitute original research? After all, if the people operating it have simply folded their tents and let their domain name lapse etc., then there may be no source anywhere that could be cited to confirm that it is defunct, and saying "is" in the present tense feels funny. Any thoughts? --Rallette (talk) 09:31, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Googling "Knightsbridge University closure" I am greeted with this page stating that it ceased activity in 2018. It is a self-published source though the author appears to be a professor and says he holds several positions, so I am unsure if this qualifies as a reliable source. I think you could say that it ceased operations in 2018 and thus referred to it in the past tense, though other editors may wish to weigh in on this issue. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 12:03, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

My mistake, upon a second skim the article says that the university ceased activity a decade before Denmark passed its University Act. I guess it shut down roughly in 2008. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 12:05, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

I found that blog post too but just skimmed it and missed that bit. Thanks! The more general question remains unanswered, but I guess the answer would be that original research is original research.--Rallette (talk) 05:43, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Weird code issue with references at the bottom of an article

Hi, I mostly do work on the fantasy book Wundersmith: The Calling of Morrigan Crow wiki article, and I noticed something off with the references at the bottom of the page, like a structural/coding error? It says "Lua error in Module:Citation/CS1/Configuration at line 2123: Attempt to index a boolean value". What does this mean, and how can I fix it?

Any help is much appreciated, thank you. Cornonthehunt (talk) 11:55, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Hey, update to this: The code error disappeared when I went and looked at it from a non-editing page view. Still not sure what caused it however. Cornonthehunt (talk) 11:58, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

@Cornonthehunt  Clarity note: Upon inspection, it appears the errors are still present in the article. Cooldudeseven7 _{talk/contribs} 12:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

@Cornonthehunt: A purge fixed it. A used module probably had an error when the page was last rendered. Rendered pages are cached for performance reasons. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:16, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, appreciate it. Cornonthehunt (talk) 21:01, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

WP:TWA Communicator badge

Hi everyone, this is my first time using Wikipedia. My goal is to achieve all of 15 budge. However, communicator budge is the only one I still cannot complete. I’ve been trying for many times, and it doesn’t work. Could you help me guild how to achieve? Sasolely (talk) 13:37, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi, Sasolely! I would actually advise for you to not worry about it. Those badges are pretty much meaningless. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 13:47, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice Writ Keeper. However, today all those budges are very important for me. As I got requirements from my instructors. They didn’t expect me to be that expert, but budges can tell whether I try to use and learn about Wikipedia or not. Since they know that I’ve never used or even heard about Wikipedia features before. Sasolely (talk) 13:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Have you had that budge? Sasolely (talk) 13:56, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Sorry for cutting in suddenly, but are you editing Wikipedia as a part of an educational course? The word "instructors" made me wonder that... or maybe there's something I don't know. Just wondering! As you were previously told, the badges are purely cosmetic and "are pretty much meaningless". I did read your user talk page, and it does look like there is a glitch preventing one badge from showing up. AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/report any mistakes here) 14:00, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes, there is one budge hasn’t shown up on my user page while it told me I already get that budge. Sasolely (talk) 14:04, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

That one is verifiability. Sasolely (talk) 14:05, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

But for communicator, I haven’t gained it. Sasolely (talk) 14:06, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Not sure what's going on, but here's some advice: if you click "source editing" you can see the raw code that generates what you see. Your user page is currently:

'''''Sasolely''''' loves watching [[movies]].

{{Wikipedia:TWA/Badge/4template}}

{{Wikipedia:TWA/Badge/1template}}

{{Wikipedia:TWA/Badge/2template}}

{{Wikipedia:TWA/Badge/5template}}

{{Wikipedia:TWA/Badge/6template}}

{{Wikipedia:TWA/Badge/7template}}

{{Wikipedia:TWA/Badge/9template}}

{{Wikipedia:TWA/Badge/10template}}

{{Wikipedia:TWA/Badge/11template}}

{{Wikipedia:TWA/Badge/12template}}

{{Wikipedia:TWA/Badge/13template}}

{{Wikipedia:TWA/Badge/14template}}

{{Wikipedia:TWA/Badge/15template}}

So if you want to make a badge show up on your userpage, you can just write {{Wikipedia:TWA/Badge/<n>template}}. If you've met the requirements, I might just manually add the badge to your page. Mrfoogles (talk) 17:07, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

On User talk:Sasolely, Taweetham writes "You are supposed to have 15 badges in total on your user page. I know that one is not working. We therefore expect 14 in total instead." Taweetham's most recent edit is this: adding the identical comment to user talk:Kanom 2003. Perhaps Taweetham would care to comment here on their (plural: "we") expectations and on Sasolely's predicament. -- Hoary (talk) 22:09, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you so much. Sasolely (talk) 01:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

@Mrfoogles, Hoary, and Sasolely: I’m an instructor for a class of approximately 40 first-year undergraduate students. As part of a course assignment, students are asked to complete two out of four available tasks, one of which is WP:TWA.

I understand that tools which worked reliably in the past may no longer function as expected, and unfortunately I don't have the time to troubleshoot the underlying scripts. For students who are unable to earn all 15 (or 14 rather) badges, I recommend the following:

• Use the latest version of Google Chrome on a desktop computer (not a tablet)
• Work in source editing mode
• Keep the additional WP:TWA window open at all times, and
• Carefully follow the instructions provided on the WP:TWA pages.

--Taweetham (talk) 04:15, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Must non free fair use photos fall under one of the WP:NFCI examples?

Must non free fair use photos fall under one of the examples of Wikipedia:Non-free content#Images or can they be used as long as they follow the Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria? Thehistorianisaac (talk) 14:02, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

@Thehistorianisaac let me clarity to you that for non-free images on Wikipedia you don’t have to match the specific examples listed at Wikipedia:Non-free content § Images, because they fully comply with the non-free content criteria (NFCC). These criteria include requirements like no free alternative, minimal use, and contextual relevance. So it is important to justify each use with a proper non-free use rationale on the file page. Sasolely (talk) 14:14, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Oh ok thank you. Thehistorianisaac (talk) 14:18, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Thehistorianisaac, please pay close attention to the following language at WP:NFCI: The following list is not exhaustive but contains the most common cases where non-free images may be used and is subject to the restrictions listed below at unacceptable use of images. So, there are other possibilities but you must make a compelling case based on deep understanding of our policies, which is not an easy thing to do. Cullen328 (talk) 17:56, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Advice on journalism award page

Hello esteemed volunteers and editors! I'm awaiting a review on my submission related to a journalism award and I'd love your feedback to ensure the page gets approved. It was rejected once prior but I've since added more supporting links and context to help lend more credibility to the page. Appreciate any thoughts you have! Draft talk:Collier Prize for State Government Accountability Kapparently (talk) 14:25, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello and welcome. You have already resubmitted the draft for review after it was declined(not rejected, which would mean resubmission would not be possible). The reviewer will leave you feedback if it is not accepted. 331dot (talk) 14:45, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Kapparently, your first reference that discusses the White House Correspondent's Dinner does not mention the Collier Award and therefore adds nothing of value to your draft. What is required are references to reliable sources that devote significant coverage to the Collier Award, but are entirely independent of the award, of the WHCA dinner, of the University of Florida, and of any of the publications and individual journalists who have received the award. That includes being generated by press releases that any of them have issued. The Inside Philanthropy article might qualify but it is behind a pay wall so I can't read it. None of your other references appear to be fully independent. Cullen328 (talk) 17:36, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Changes to article about Steven Knight

Hello, i have added citation and date of birth to the article about Steven Knight if this citation is not reliable please remove it, thank you. 2409:4073:218E:E86F:7123:2B34:E0A:7BEE (talk) 17:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Looks like your changes were reverted already - IMDb is not a reliable source. Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 21:22, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Philip Low (Chemist) page

Is it allowable for a person to request changes to a page if it's about themselves? Philip Low would like to add/replace things about himself on this page that was written about him and I was wondering if I could give those edits to someone. Thanks for your help. Philip S Low (talk) 18:51, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Philip S Low Hello and welcome. That is absolutely allowed; you should use the edit request process(click for instructions) on the talk page(Talk:Philip Low (chemist)). The edit request wizard can facilitate a request as well.

I will note that you spoke about yourself in the third person; if you are not Dr. Low, you must change your username as soon as possible, you shouldn't use his name as your username unless you are him. (you also may not share access to the account with him or anyone) You may change your username via Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS. 331dot (talk) 19:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

I am his Admin Assistant and the one that created this page after being tasked to build a Wikipedia page about him. I went in and tried to change the profile name but can't seem to figure it out. I'll just go ahead and delete this profile and start over with my own name. Philip S Low (talk) 15:03, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

@Philip S Low: Accounts can't be deleted for reasons of edit attribution. It's easier to just abandon the account and create a new one instead of waiting for an account rename. Either way, disclose your paid relationship with the subject, preferably on the user page of whatever account you use next.

I also strongly suggest you read Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia. Keep in mind that the subject does not own the article about them, and should reliable sources report negatively on them, it is very possible that sort of content will stick around for a very long time, if not forever. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 08:08, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Philip S Low. In addition to what 331dot says, please note that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. Unless any material he wishes to add is cited to a reliable source, wholly independent of him, it is unlikely to be added. ColinFine (talk) 20:27, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Sandbox Title

If I create a sandbox, Can I title my page the title of my article I wish to call it like User:Breck0530/List of Other Interstate Proposals or you can only call it User:Breck0530/sandbox? Breck0530 (talk) 21:32, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes you can, you just need to make sure it's still in your userspace. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 22:05, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

ok Thanks! Breck0530 (talk) 22:07, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes, @Breck0530. The only difference between a sandbox called "sandbox" and one called something else is that there is a shortcut to "sandbox" on your user menu (in the skin I use, in the drop-down from the "person" icon at the top right). ColinFine (talk) 23:00, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

External links in templates

Hello. Are external links generally allowed in templates? I just came across one in Template:Guantanamo Bay detainees, and it causes the link to appear after the template when it's used in an article, like in List of Yemeni detainees at Guantanamo Bay. It looks out of place, but I'm not sure what the correct approach is in a situation like this, so I don't know what to do. Paprikaiser (talk) 21:41, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Huh, I hadn't seen that before either. WP:NAVBOX states "Finally, external links should not be included in navigation templates. Sources may be included in the template documentation (a <noinclude> section that is visible only after viewing the template itself, but not upon its transclusion).". So no, it shouldn't have an external link. The Sophocrat (talk) 01:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

@Paprikaiser Just for clarity, many templates do include valid external links. So {{Infobox person}} may have a person's website as a link, for example. Some templates, like {{IMDb title}} are specifically designed to give a weblink but in that case are only supposed to be placed in the external links section of an article. As already mentioned, navboxes shouldn't have such links. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:53, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you both! Paprikaiser (talk) 19:45, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Why is removing a speedy deletion from a page you created yourself against policy?

It's not an XfD tag (where nobody is allowed to remove it when the discussion is underway), and since anybody who's not yourself is allowed to remove it Cyber the tiger🐯 (talk) 23:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Page creators can remove speedies from certain types of pages. For those that they cannot remove a speedy from, they can contest the speedy on the talk page. As for why... we don't want creators of clearly inappropriate material to be able to derail the uncontroversial deletion by removing the speedy themselves, whether in good faith or not. It's one shot deal, and anyone but the creator can remove the speedy request, so it's not as if we make it hard to deny a speedy. Meters (talk) 00:04, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Request for Review – Draft: Wasamundi (Cameroon Startup)

Hi all, I’ve drafted a page about Wasamundi, a defunct Cameroonian tech startup from the Silicon Mountain community. I’ve disclosed my past professional connection to the project. Would someone be willing to review the draft at: Wasamundi I’d appreciate any advice on neutrality, citations, or readiness for mainspace. MountainTechActor (talk) 01:11, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello @MountainTechActor. Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the draft would pass as an article at this state. All articles on Wikipedia rely on verifiable information derived from reliable, secondary sources. You've done this the other way around; please read WP:BACKWARDS. Without these sources, the article is entirely based on original research that is impossible to verify for a reader, nor prove that the subject is notable in the first place. It is best if you find sources.

And to clarify, are you paid in any way to write that article? Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 01:19, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

@Tarlby Thank you for the pointers. I'll make updates based on your feedback. I’m not being paid. I worked with the founding team and the project was very notable in west Africa and Cameroon in particular. I was surprised it does not have a wiki page. I got some facts wrong like when the project shutdown; last year not 2017. Would work to improve sourcing, re-write based on independent references. Would love your second opinion when convenient. Appreciate your guidance. Thanks again. MountainTechActor (talk) 00:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Fixing template causing spacing issues

On the page for Proprietary software, the template for "intellectual property" creates an awkward gap in spacing between the lead and the next table in the article. It's not a crucial issue, but how could I correct this? ALittleClass (talk) 01:48, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

@ALittleClassI have Fixed the issues you were experiencing.If you need more help you may post a message on my My Talk Page

Bleeng (talk) 02:35, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

It does not show up as fixed on my screen, in fact the issue is worse now, there's a huge gap between the template and the start of the article. ALittleClass (talk) 02:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Could you please describe the issue deeply.wjat going wrong with you. Bleeng (talk) 02:43, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

there is a huge gap between the title of the article and the first paragraph caused by the template. What computer are you using, or are you on mobile? ALittleClass (talk) 02:48, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Done! Now You may check there was a template which was causing problem but is is also crucial to indicate about redirects.

Here is the Template. "Redirect-confused|Non-free software|Commercial software|Business software" Bleeng (talk) 02:54, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

ccTLD codes

Two letter "Country Code Top Level Domain" can be access by typing say ".nz" for New Zealand

What are the three letter codes used for Sports called, such as "NZL" ?

And should there be links such as .NZL to access there Sports Code Top Level Domain

The two codes might be combined as a disambuguation topic?

Is there a list of these scTLD codes ?

The ccTLD are mentioned in the description of most if not all countries ! ----MountVic127 (talk) 06:44, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

"Country code top-level domain" are about Internet.

"Sport Code Top Level Domain" aren't in existence.

You can't create an article for something that don't exist. Anatole-berthe (talk) 08:28, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

I think you're probably looking for ISO 3166-1 alpha-3 country codes. They're similar to top level domains in that they're short sequences of letters identifying a country, but are otherwise unrelated. statisticalphil (talk) 09:06, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

It is possible you're looking for "ISO 3166-1 alpha-3" but this list is not used in all sports.

Is this the right list ? Anatole-berthe (talk) 12:30, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

File Talk FAQ pages listed on the Wikipedia FAQs Category page

Browsing Category:Wikipedia FAQs, I came across a link that struck me as odd going to File_talk:Eurovision_winners_map.svg/FAQ.

I assume it's due to Template:FAQ page categorizing all pages under File talk as Wikipedia FAQs. There is a point to be made that as the talk page is about a file rather than an article, it should not fall under the alternative Category:Wikipedia article FAQs, but I feel that would be an improvement over listing them under FAQs about Wikipedia generally.

Obviously not a particularly pressing issue, but caught my eye. Aksuloid (talk) 08:48, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Help request / feedback on a draft

Hello everyone, I am a somewhat disoriented new user. I have been trying to create a page making several mistakes and getting useful feedback from the community. I have now tidied up the draft I am working on, trying to put everything to good use and following the guidelines. Would anyone mind giving an opinion on this draft and, if it works, help me to publish it? Thank you for your help

L.

Draft:Giovanni Soldini (Italian sailor) LUDOSDM (talk) 10:46, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

You have no need to have bare links in your sources section, the "notes" one should be renamed to References - that's where your sources go. Also, you should have a source for every claim made in a biography of a living person. If not, the content is unsourced and should be removed. And as a minor rule of thumb: your in-text citations goes after any punctuation (commas, periods, colons, etc.), not before. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 11:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you so much LUDOSDM (talk) 16:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @LUDOSDM, and welcome to the Teahouse.

This is not something you need to worry about now (the reviewer who accepts your draft will sort it out) but for future reference, the description in parenthesis ("Italian sailor") is something we use only to distinguish articles about different things or people with the same name. Since we have no existing article Giovanni Soldini, when this draft is accepted, that is the title it will have. As I say, you do not need to do anything about this.

Generally, Teahouse hosts do not to pre-reviews: the way to get feedback on your draft is to submit it for review: that is what the review process is for. ColinFine (talk) 13:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you very much LUDOSDM (talk) 16:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

I see that Draft:Giovanni Soldini (Italian sailor) and Draft:Giovanni Soldini now both exist. I advise strongly against having rival draft versions for the same article. It can confuse reviewers; it can confuse the creator; and it can confuse or deter anyone who might be thinking of helping to improve the draft. I suggest that you ask to have the former version deleted, or just blank it, to avoid confusion. Maproom (talk) 20:34, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

thanks for the info. i am trying to remove it. how can I delete it? LUDOSDM (talk) 20:36, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

how to improve my wiki page

Hi advisor, I recently needed to upload a wiki page about the UN Chamber Music Society. but it keeps getting rejected, and I was hoping you could suggest some changes to make sure this page is uploadable. Rachel Zenggggg (talk) 11:06, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Welcome to the teahouse, @Rachel Zenggggg!

You have no contributions other than your user page and the teahouse, what do you mean by "it keep getting rejected"? The content should also not be on your userpage. If you click this link, then it will create a page for the person you are writing about. From there, you can copy what's written on your userpage to that page.

I also strongly advise you to read the above advice I gave to LUDOSDM, as well as reading this page about writing better articles. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 11:21, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

It's my second account, the first account has been blocked permanently. But right now i am working on another one's wiki page. The organization called UN Chamber Music Society. Rachel Zenggggg (talk) 11:34, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

So you are.. evading a block? What was the username of your first account? PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 11:40, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

I have moved the draft from the user page to User:Rachel Zenggggg/sandbox. -- Hoary (talk) 11:32, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

@Rachel Zenggggg: You should be able to see this, although you are blocked.

Your draft needs more citations, both to verify what you say, and to show that the subject meets our criteria for inclusion. In particular, most of those citations should be published in reliable sources, independent of the orchestra.

You also need to declare any conflict of interest or paid involvement.

You can also read Help:Your first article.

You can't reply here while you are blocked, but you can reply on your talk page and I (and other editors) will see what you say there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:12, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Draft:UN Chamber Music Society was created in March by User:Stephanoccenad, who is not blocked. Another (since deleted) version was created by User:UNCMS Editor, who is only softblocked, who may be the blocked user referred to above. @331dot:, as the admin who blocked Rachel Zenggggg. Yet another (also deleted) seems to have been created by User:Barameeperm (also not blocked).

We seem to have one or more good-faith new editors trying to create an article about a non-profit, but not understanding our policies, not least around COI. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:03, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi Rachel Zenggggg, I can help you do this following the rules, please email me at john.cummings at fao.org. Thanks :) John Cummings (talk) 18:15, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you so much!!! I just emailed you. Please feel free to check it out!!! Thank you so much!!!! Rachel Zenggggg (talk) 07:58, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Academic sources

Academics means studying teaching in school, colleges. Why the teachers are interested in latest crimes? I don't understand how teachers professors are given more importance in Wikipedia in articles related to latest crime, terrorism, politics.

If media mentions something, victims mention something, but academics mention different thing, then academic sources are given more importance here?

What are academic sources? PhD research papers, prescribed syllabus in universities? Fruit Orchard (talk) 11:54, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Academic sources are generally peer-reviewed and ensured to make sure the information is accurate. News reports and personal accounts get stuff wrong all the time. The recent India-Pakistan border clashes are a major example of this, reports keep giving conflicting accounts and it's often hard to sift through the rubbish. One of Wikipedia's core policies is verifiability, not truth. And the truth hurts. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 12:13, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello.

How to create a forum about Tonga? B255555555 (talk) 13:15, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @B255555555, and welcome to the Teahouse.

I'm afraid that the answer is "find somewhere that hosts forums: Wikipedia does not". Talk pages, and WikiProjects such as WikiProject Tonga are for coordination and discussion about Wikipedia articles, not about the subjects of the articles. See WP:NOTFORUM. ColinFine (talk) 13:24, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

How to spot vandalism

What are some common signs of vandalism, because I want to ensure that this encyclopedia is accurate and safe. Where are common places of vandalism, and how can I keep track of them? I want to prevent vandalism, but I do not know how to do so.

AstronomyKid1 (talk) 13:23, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @AstronomyKid1, and welcome to the Teahouse. Please have a look at WP:CVU- I think you'll find what you're looking for there. ColinFine (talk) 13:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Also take a look at Wikipedia:Vandalism. Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

uhhh?

Hi, I am @Shaneapickle and I have been logged out for a while now, (yes wikipedia is using my computers id for some reason) and i just have a question, how do i get back into my account on my computer, when my school is blocking Wikimedia? I am logged in on my tablet but I am bad at editing on there. I need some help here. 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:B554:36:682:91B2 (talk) 13:49, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Are you saying that your school has blocked wikipedia completely or account creation is blocked?

If the website is blocked, we don't manage that, your school/school district manages that. Cooldudeseven7 _{talk/contribs} 14:51, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

My school completely blocked wikimedia so i cant log back in 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:B554:36:682:91B2 (talk) 15:12, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Unfortunately, we cannot fix/change that, as your restrictions are set by your School, School District, or Internet Service Provider. Also, if you really do need to edit wikipedia for some reason, I would suggest talking to someone who can manage that to request a change to the restrictions, if possible. Cooldudeseven7 _{talk/contribs} 15:48, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

alsso is using ip adresses count as abusing multiple accounts or no? 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:B554:36:682:91B2 (talk) 16:31, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Not in these circumstances. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:53, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

I think they are talking about the new login domain thing, like the login page on Wikipedia and other projects share a single domain now. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 04:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Requesting review of my sandbox draft.

Hi, I’m a new editor and have a declared conflict of interest (I’m the subject of the article). I’ve drafted a biography at User:Shafiur2020/sandbox and would be grateful if an uninvolved editor could take a look, advise on notability, and let me know if it’s ready for mainspace. Many thanks! Shafiur2020 (talk) 13:54, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Editor here, see these wikipedia essays

WP:N

WP:COI

WP:BLP

WP:NPOV

WP:SELFCITE 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:B554:36:682:91B2 (talk) 13:59, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

The best way to solicit a review is to use the Article Wizard to submit your draft. 331dot (talk) 14:00, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

I will add that writing about yourself- while not absolutely forbidden- is inadvisable, see the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 14:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

You can add the {{User Sandbox}} template to submit it from there. Please, of course read the articles that are posted above. Please also know that autobiographies are inadvisable as said by 331dot. Happy Editing! Cooldudeseven7 _{talk/contribs} 14:49, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

An IP added those, not me. Just FYI. 331dot (talk) 14:50, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, I read that wrong! Cooldudeseven7 _{talk/contribs} 15:33, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Ooops sorry. I pasted the wrong reply to you. Apologies.

Thank you for your thoughtful reply and advice. I’ve read all the linked guidelines and am working carefully to follow them, including full COI disclosure and independent sourcing. I understand the risks and difficulties involved in drafting about oneself, which is why I’m seeking only independent review — not publication — and want to ensure the material is accurate and policy-compliant before any submission. Again, I really appreciate the guidance. Shafiur2020 (talk) 20:23, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks again for cleaning up the draft — that was really helpful.

To better address the notability issue: I'm working on clarifying in the text how the sources show significance beyond just documenting my work.

- The **CNN investigation** shows that my footage and survivor interviews were *central* to how they reconstructed the Tula Toli massacre; the piece is built around that material.

- The **Spanish Ministry of Culture** PDF documents that the short film I produced (''Tres tristes tigres'') won awards and screened widely at festivals.

- The **BBC World Service Newshour** interview presents the first documentary evidence suggesting pre-planning of the Rohingya massacre, based on testimonies I gathered.

- **CPJ**  reported that I faced threats due to my journalism, highlighting both the sensitivity and impact of the work.

- The **PEN Americal listing**  shows that I am recognised as a writer at risk, effectively exiled because of my reporting. This provides additional context for the press freedom dimensions of my work.

I’ll revise the draft to make these connections more explicit and would welcome any further suggestions on how best to frame them. Shafiur2020 (talk) 20:20, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

@Shafiur2020 I have edited your draft, which required extensive clean-up to make it a bit closer to our manual of style. The main issue remains to show how you are notable as defined by Wikipedia. For that you need as many fully independent sources as possible. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:49, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks again for cleaning up the draft — that was really helpful.

To better address the notability issue: I'm working on clarifying in the text how the sources show significance beyond just documenting my work.

- The **CNN investigation** shows that my footage and survivor interviews were *central* to how they reconstructed the Tula Toli massacre; the piece is built around that material.

- The **Spanish Ministry of Culture** PDF documents that the short film I produced (''Tres tristes tigres'') won awards and screened widely at festivals.

- The **BBC World Service Newshour** interview presents the first documentary evidence suggesting pre-planning of the Rohingya massacre, based on testimonies I gathered.

- **CPJ**  reported that I faced threats due to my journalism, highlighting both the sensitivity and impact of the work.

- The **PEN Americal listing**  shows that I am recognised as a writer at risk, effectively exiled because of my reporting. This provides additional context for the press freedom dimensions of my work.

I’ll revise the draft to make these connections more explicit and would welcome any further suggestions on how best to frame them. Shafiur2020 (talk) 20:20, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Source credibility

I would like to edit the article on Dirk Schouten to give information about his current Porsche Supercup campaign. The only articles I could find that officially state that he's racing in the cup for Dinamic Motorsport is an official publication from Porsche themselves, and this article from the team. Would these be considered reliable enough to add, given the fact that they're both an internal news source? OntheInterwebs (talk) 14:30, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

[A long post by User:Cooldudeseven7 was here, but has been removed by them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:29, 22 May 2025 (UTC) ]

Yes. These are not "self published" by Schouten, but are written by a third party about him. Unfortunately, User:Cooldudeseven7 misunderstands the guidance they have cited. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:51, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Ah, sorry, it appears I had not looked at the article thoroughly enough- I am deeply sorry for the disruption I might have caused! I have deleted my reply.Cooldudeseven7 _{talk/contribs} 16:55, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Editor reluctant to wait for a consensus

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I am currently in the middle of a content dispute, and this editor - @Arc Rev:, said they aren't willing to wait for a consensus because they didn't ask for a consensus and stating they have their own "guideline".[3] I find the statement from the editor, concerning. Is there anything that can be done with this behavior. The editor was already warned for edit warring today, before they made that comment. Hotwiki (talk) 16:21, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Please follow the process at WP:DR. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:45, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

I already had a discussion with that editor, but he chose to not agree, so I do not have control over that editor's choice, so I said I will never seek a consensus. I never said I am not willing. Why? I already refrain from editing the article we are referring to. And also, I said, "I have my guidelines." That's not literally mine; I have guidelines to present, that is what I meant, and the editor answered by saying, Just ignore it. It's just a simple edit I made; why does he need to revert? Are all guidelines for Wikipedia made by a consensus? I provided it to his talk page. That means there is already a consensus for this; he only chose not to comply and warned me instead. — ArćRèv • talk 16:49, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

@Arc Rev and @Hotwiki: Consensus is not something you "wait for": it is something that all parties need to work towards. Anybody who says (or who acts as if they are saying) "I am right and I won't budge" is not working towards consensus. (I have picked up vibes of that position, but I have not looked to see who they are coming from, or looked at the issue on which you are disagreeing). Please read WP:DR again, and follow it. ColinFine (talk) 17:16, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

I suggested to ArcRev to wait for someone to chime in, since me/ArcRev couldn't see eye to eye. Thats when Arc Rev said, they weren't going to wait for a consensus and that they have their own "guideline". I would try to bring this up to DR when I get some free time. The article should also get increase in daily clicks, when the TV series airs next month, so who knows if another editor, chimes into the dispute. Hotwiki (talk) 17:42, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

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cropping a photo posted

is it possible to crop a photo once it is posted? thank you Guckercoalco (talk) 20:09, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Download the photo, crop it and upload under a different name. Ruslik_Zero 20:37, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

can the original photo be deleted? how? Guckercoalco (talk) 20:45, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

@Guckercoalco: If you uploaded the original photo, you can tag it for speedy deletion by adding {{db-g7}} to the original upload page. If you didn't, you probably shouldn't delete it at all, unless it's a non-free photo, in which case if you swap the photo in the article you are working on with the cropped version you can add {{Orfud}} to the original photo and it will be deleted after 7 days. Worgisbor (congregate) 20:59, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

I did upload the pictures. I had someone comment that it looked like I was not the owner of a picture but I am due to photo included the address where i have my pics. the pc needs cropped. I just want to abide by the requirements on this page but being a beginner at this... I'm learning slowly. many thanks Guckercoalco (talk) 22:14, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Rather than uploading a screenshot please download ("save") the original image to your computer and then upload that image to Wikimedia Commons. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:08, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

There is a Crop tool in Commons, which I believe can be activated for other projects too: see C:COM:CropTool. ColinFine (talk) 21:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

thank you! Guckercoalco (talk) 22:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Guckercoalco, are you referring to the image you uploaded of a computer monitor which is showing a page on Flickr which is showing a photo that someone else took which is showing a flag on a flagpole, bearing the logo to which you own the copyright as heir? DS (talk) 00:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Possible Link Rot in Domenico Veneziano article

The Domenico Veneziano entry contains a link to an external video [4]. This site does exist, but is at the current time a paid site, and the link does not lead one to information about this artist. This could be mentioned on the article's Talk Page, but is there a better way to handle the problem? Oldsilenus (talk) 20:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

 Note: I do not believe this site is paywalled, but after dismissing the donation screen it said it could not find the page. Worgisbor (congregate) 21:06, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes, this does appear to be a donation screen, not a paywall.

This link might've been deleted, as per the message saying it cannot find the page.

Are you sure that is the correct link? Cooldudeseven7 _{talk/contribs} 21:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Actually after asking the question I noticed that if one searches with the term "venezianos-st.-lucy-altarpiece" on the site one comes to the video. This is the way the link is given in the entry, but certainly NOT the best English grammar (one would expect "St Lucy Altarpiece" or "Veneziano's St Lucy Altarpiece" to work but they do not. Oldsilenus (talk) 03:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Is Modern Railways magazine a reliable source, and may I use it?

Hello! This account is new, but really I've been 'walking' along the pages of Wikipedia. Mostly spending my free time browsing about things and pages such as this. Im a train and bus nerd, and I wish to start editing things along the UK side of these things.

Is Modern Railways a reliable source? I have recently bought a copy of the July 2025 issue, and it contains a story about the Class 455's supposed 'Life Extension' due to weary deliveries of its replacements. Which is what I wish to write as my first edit.

Another thing that begs the question, since it was released by today, which is (22/05/25), is it not allowed due to legal reasons or any other reason?

Much thanks. SKW. SollieKW (talk) 22:28, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello and welcome. I know of no law which prevents the use of a source on Wikipedia- copyright would prevent you from posting a verbatim copy(or close paraphrasing) but it doesn't prevent you from citing it.

If Modern Railways has a reputation of fact checking and editorial control(i.e. they don't just publish whatever their writers write), then they are probably reliable. 331dot (talk) 22:36, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

I was feeling since the edition was released TODAY (as of writing at GMT/BST)!

I think there has to be some sort of gripe behind it. SollieKW (talk) 22:47, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

SollieKW, our articles about Modern Railways and its publisher Key Publishing do not include any indications of unreliability. The presumption would be that a specialist publication like this is probably reliable for railways topics (which are called railroads in the US). Cullen328 (talk) 03:32, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! I will soon write up an edit at British Rail Class 455 soon. SollieKW (talk) 10:53, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @SollieKW. The newness of the source is irrelevant - it is either a reliable source (for this material) or it isn't. I would advise being BOLD - if somebody disagrees, they can revert you and you can have a discussion. That's how Wikipedia works. ColinFine (talk) 09:45, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Alright, cheers! I should think you may review this edit since yourself have an intrest on trains. :) SollieKW (talk) 10:55, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Conducted Independent Research, but don't have anywhere to post it and reference for a wiki page

I made a stats page for the women's rugby world cup statistics, basically mirroring what the men's version had, but unlike the men's none of this information was in a central location, so I went through world rugby game databases, ESPN match reports, and a lovely dutch website I found saved on internet archive to get a full list of scorers over the 9 prior editions of the tournament. To create the following article:

Records and statistics of the Women's Rugby World Cup

However since this is new research (as far as I know) there's nowhere for me to reference out for it. I've sent it on to the RFU and some other sites like https://womensrugbydata.com/womens-rugby-world-cup-1991/ but they haven't formally uploaded all the data yet.

What would you recommend I do in this instance? Is there a temporary repository I could use to source out the work I've done for this project? HitchikersPie (talk) 23:00, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Compiling statistics in this manner does not contravene the relevant guideline (WP:OR). So long as you cite the various sources that you have used, which you can do at the end of the table rather than at each individual point, that will be fine. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:52, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Dragon in the background?

If I look at my user page (User:Dodecahedron123) and scroll down so that the grey background takes up most of the screen, I see a grey-on-grey image of a creature (a dragon?). What's up with that? What's the story behind that choice?

User page screenshot

Dodecahedron123 (talk) 02:52, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

@Dodecahedron123 What skin are you using? Justjourney (talk | contribs) 03:57, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

I see, the timeless skin. It shows on shorter pages on my end as well. I don't know the story about this though, maybe someone else will know. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 04:04, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

That is cat.svg, the default backdrop image for Timeless. It is documented at meta:Skin:Timeless and it's visible in the code repository. There's a MediaWiki variable to configure it, but I'm unsure whether the user can disable or override that. 2600:8800:1E8F:BE00:8DB6:9653:34F4:CB50 (talk) 07:54, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

When was this link made?

What year? Swcr.kmook (talk) 02:59, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

What link, please? Cremastra (u — c) 03:04, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Can I have a cup of tea? {Joke}

This is the Teahouse so can I have one? Therealbubb1e (talk) 04:57, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Of course we can! Here, have a cup of tea. 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Correct place to ask about notability concerns

Hi, what would be the right place to ask about notability concerns prior to nominating for deletion? Boynamedsue (talk) 05:25, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

You can ask on the talk page of any of the WikiProjects listed on the article's talk pages. Be aware that some projects are more active than others and you may not get an answer very quickly on the inactive ones. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:54, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Request for review of my draft article on Samer Habbas

Hi everyone,

I’m a new editor working on creating a Wikipedia article about Samer Habbas, a personal injury attorney based in California. I have drafted the article with multiple third-party reliable sources, including legal rankings and local news coverage, and tried to follow Wikipedia’s guidelines on neutrality and verifiability.

Could someone please review my draft and provide any feedback or suggestions on how to improve it? I want to ensure the article meets Wikipedia’s standards for notability and style before I submit it for formal review.

Here is the link to my sandbox draft: User:SamerHabbas/sandbox

Thank you very much for your time and help! Sandhya16Jan (talk) 05:49, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Sandhya16Jan: to establish that Habbas is notable enough (in Wikipedia's idiosyncratic sense) to warrant an article about him, you'll need to find and cite several reliable independent published sources with extensive discussion of him. I see no such source in your draft. Maproom (talk) 07:27, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback—I really appreciate your time and guidance.

I understand that Wikipedia requires reliable, independent sources with significant coverage. I've cited some legal directories (like Avvo, Martindale-Hubbell, and Super Lawyers), as well as press coverage such as the Los Angeles Times Business Visionaries feature. I’ve also included settlement reports and recognitions listed on third-party legal ranking sites.

That said, I’d really appreciate your suggestions:

Are there specific types of sources you recommend I look for (e.g., newspaper features, legal news outlets)?

Would a profile in Law360 or a news article about one of his major cases be more appropriate?

If I find two or three such articles, would that likely establish notability?

I'm happy to revise the draft and do more research. Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction! Sandhya16Jan (talk) 07:34, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

These things are largely not reliable, independent sources providing significant coverage. Simple database entries and basic profiles written by unknown parties are not useful and these are not editorial (and at least one is for hiring Habbas). The Los Angeles Times link is also inappropriate as "LA Times Studio" explicitly "does not involve the Los Angeles Times editorial staff," and is developed "from press releases, announcements and contributor content."

You seem to be concentrating on "finding" articles, but that's not how Wikipedia articles work and is an example of WP:BACKWARDS. The proper way to go about things is to start with the sources, and then write the article base on the sources. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 08:24, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Please fix your WP: SIGNATURE, so that it shows and links to your user name. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:57, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Voting in ArbCom elections

Hello there, how can I vote in ArbCom elections? But, how could I vote if the voting is not visible on wiki and from a different site? Why are these votes often scrutinized and checked? How does it work though? What is the reason on why it is not seen visibly unlike other voting processes? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:13, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:5-minute guide to ArbCom elections, which explains a lot. -- Hoary (talk) 08:21, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello. In order to vote in ArbCom elections, you must register an account and make at least 150 edits with that account. IP editors cannot participate in ArbCom elections. The voting process is scrutinized and checked to ensure fairness and accuracy. If you register an account and make over 150 edits on a timely basis, the next election will be visible to you. Cullen328 (talk) 08:21, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

@Cullen328 @Hoary But would voting be on wiki or off wiki? I don’t see where voting takes place, since I don’t see them. 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:34, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

IP editor. Didn't you read the page that Hoary linked? The voting procedure is explained at Wikipedia:5-minute guide to ArbCom elections#Voting process. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:03, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Teahouse serving tea

Can the Teahouse serve tea? What pastries does this serve guests for? Cookies or biscuits? What kind of tea you can give me? Would you give me tea please? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:18, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

You can enjoy whatever you can imagine or physically have on hand. I just finished a cup of Red Zinger and a Dark Chocolate KIND Bar. Cullen328 (talk) 08:26, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

@Cullen328 Cool, what kind of taste does this serve? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:32, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

You can imagine whatever taste you want. Cullen328 (talk) 08:35, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

@Cullen328 Yes, that’s good. I just wanted a green tea or a honey tea, as I would like. @331dot, @Tarlby, and @Hoary, wanna join in serving tea? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:55, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Unprotected Jimbo Wales talk page

Is there a way to unprotect Jimbo Wales talk page? When will this protection expire? And why is this still protected indefinitely? Where can I leave messages, if he will never respond to me? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:58, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

I hope you can realize that many people want to talk to Mr. Wales, not all of them for the right reasons. Please see his user talk page for instructions on contacting him, though. 331dot (talk) 09:19, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

When will he reply to IPs if he barely active? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 09:53, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

My Profile writing in Wikipedia - Request for guidance - Reg.

I am VS Balajee. I would like my Profile to be updated in Wikipedia as I am mentoring a lot of Software Firms at free of cost. Can any one guide me in the procedss VS Balajee (talk) 09:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @VS Balajee, and welcome to the Teahouse.

If Wikipedia has an article about you (which is not a "profile", as it does not belong to you and is not controlled by you) then you should not edit it, and instead you should submit edit requests for changes - noting that unless any information you wish to add is supported by reliable published sources wholly independent of you, it is unlikely to be added.

I don't find an article with "Balajee" in the title, so I'm guessing that we do not have an article about you at present, and you mean that you want your "profile" to appear in Wikipedia. If that is the case, please understand that promotion of any kind is not permitted in Wikipedia, and Wikipedia can have an article about you only if you meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability - which most of us do not.

Your mention of "as I am mentoring a lot of Software Firms at free of cost" strongly implies that your purpose is to promote your services (Wikipedia uses "promotion" to mean "telling the world about something" and does not distinguish commercial from non-commercial purposes). Please find other outlets to tell the world about your services. ColinFine (talk) 09:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Why is Social Media not a reliable source

Why isn’t social media a reliable source, and what happens if you cite them as a source? Why it needs to be from both academic and independent sources instead of just social network platforms? Examples of social media not being a reliable source. 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 09:52, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello IP user. Social media is not generally a reliable source, because anybody can say anything about anything on social media. There are certain limited cases where social media can be used - see WP:SPS ColinFine (talk) 09:59, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

For examples, see Fake news and The Disinformation Project, for starters. Shantavira|^{feed me} 10:47, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Advice on citing sources, and factual information that lacks "reputable" sources even if known to be true

My initial grievance: here (sorry for repeating a question, I just figured it’s more likely to be answered nicely here). Sorry if this is a long one

Context: I tried to edit the "Members" section of the Ghost (Swedish band) page and it was reverted due to poor quality sources. The reverted (current) version is out of date, but due to the nature of the band (the singer is the "one constant member", musicians are just hired for touring, the musicians don’t often talk about their identities due to former anonymity) it is near impossible to get quality sources in relation to changes in the lineup. The way we, as fans, know about changes in the lineup is almost solely through observation, it’s never "announced". And so the lineup has changed yet again and the reason we know this is because:

a) Keyboardist announced via social media that she was going to focus on her solo career, she is evidently absent from the current tour and is actively working in the US right now (Problem: can only cite social media, which is apparently discouraged and editors may disregard it without consideration)

b) Fans/concert attendees have confirmed the replacement/presence/absence of specific members (Problem: nowhere to source from/word-of-mouth, only confirmed through pictures posted by the band, again on social media)

c) Insider info (Problem: also via social media, citation was disregarded without consideration)

Sooo I tried to bring the article up to date and because of the lack of sources, it was rejected. My question is essentially: How am I meant to bring articles like this up to date without proper sources being available? Leaving them as is feels like misinformation because it’s so outdated but it’ll just be reverted if can’t back it up and idk what to do! Is.not.here (talk) 10:37, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Requesting Review and Suggestions – Draft:Information_Security_Education_and_Awareness_Project

I’ve created a draft article titled (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Information_Security_Education_and_Awareness_Project) It’s about a public initiative focused on promoting information security awareness and education. I would appreciate it if someone could review the draft and provide feedback or suggestions on how I can improve it to meet Wikipedia’s notability and style guidelines. Thank you! Yoursfriend (talk) 10:48, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Have I done the right thing?

Hello everyone, Hopefully, all of you are doing great. I created a page of Mario Nawfal, however, it was in my opinion, was vandalized by [[User:ElinaN19]]. I have reverted his/her edits, and commented on the talk page (User talk:ElinaN19). Can anyone please check if I have done the right thing or not? and if there is any room for improvement. Thank you. RaynorRaider (talk) 12:04, 23 May 2025 (UTC)