Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 January 19

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January 19[edit]

Template:Inorganic table item[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Arbitrarily0 (talk) 00:57, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Template:Inorganic table item (edit · talk · history · links · logs · subpages · delete)

old and unused. Frietjes (talk) 22:48, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

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Template:Initial release year[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Arbitrarily0 (talk) 00:57, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Template:Initial release year (edit · talk · history · links · logs · subpages · delete)

redundant to template:birth year and age and violates MOS guidelines, since it wikilinks the year. Frietjes (talk) 22:47, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

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Template:IFFHS World's Top Goal Scorer of the Year[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Arbitrarily0 (talk) 00:56, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Template:IFFHS World's Top Goal Scorer of the Year (edit · talk · history · links · logs · subpages · delete)

Navbox for an article which has been deleted multiple times, under multiple different names - PROD, AfD 1, AfD 2 - no see no reason why this should exist seperately. GiantSnowman 22:38, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

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Template:In Spanish[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:25, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Template:In Spanish (edit · talk · history · links · logs · subpages · delete)

old, basically unused, and it's faster to just use standard EL markup with the {{es icon}} appended, or use {{citation}} with 'language=Spanish'. Frietjes (talk) 21:55, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

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Template:In French[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:25, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Template:In French (edit · talk · history · links · logs · subpages · delete)

unused, redundant to simple EL markup. not sure if it could be used to circumvent edit filters? Frietjes (talk) 21:04, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

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Template:InChI link[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:25, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Template:InChI link (edit · talk · history · links · logs · subpages · delete)

old and unused. Frietjes (talk) 21:03, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

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Template:Imagereplaced[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Arbitrarily0 (talk) 00:58, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Template:Imagereplaced (edit · talk · history · links · logs · subpages · delete)

old, unused, and probably replaced by one of the 'db' templates. Frietjes (talk) 20:59, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

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Template:Japanese (samurai) weapons and equipment.[edit]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:30, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Template:Japanese (samurai) weapons and equipment. (edit · talk · history · links · logs · subpages · delete)

It is far too overcategorized and unwieldy, and also redundant, given the much better templates, such as Japanese swords and Japanese (samurai) armour ZarlanTheGreen (talk) 05:58, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

  • Keep As someone who has worked on many of the articles and categories in the samurai and Japanese weapons, armour and accessories area I can say that this template is incredibly helpful for navigating and finding all the related articles and categories as it gives you a complete overview of ALL major related subjects.
  • Wikipedia is all about providing accurate and reliable information and having a single template that can help someone find all the related articles and categories in this field will increase the readership and allow people to find articles and categories they might not have known existed.
  • Japanese and samurai swords, weapons, armour, clothing, martial arts etc are all inter related, they do not exist independently. What might seem "redundant" to someone who is not familiar with to the subject will be quite helpful to someone else, such as someone doing research, no longer will a reader have to rely on limited "see also" sections or whatever categories are at the bottom of an article, you will not have to save articles on you computer to find them again, when new articles are written (there have been several new articles added recently) they will be readily visible.
  • If a reader does not like the template they can simple hide it (there is a hide button) or ignore it, it is at the very bottom of the article after all and does not get in the way of reading the article.

Samuraiantiqueworld (talk) 07:39, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

    • If you take a look at Wikipedia:Navigation_templates#Properties, you'll see that it specifically tells you not to do what you've done. Furthermore, to say that Japanese weapons, armour, clothing, martial arts are all interrelated... Using that logic, you might as well make a template for everything. No other, equally interrelated, subjects have such overarching templates ...and to imply that I'm not familiar with the subject is merely an silly ad hominem.--ZarlanTheGreen (talk) 13:42, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
      • if you would look carefully at Wikipedia:Navigation_templates#Properties you will see this...."This guidance essay contains comments and advice of one or more Wikipedia contributors. It is not a Wikipedia policy or guideline" "COMMENTS AND ADVICE" not hard set rules and regulations...and as for your statement "No other, equally interrelated, subjects have such overarching templates" I suggest that you look here Template:Equestrian Sports As to your interest in the subject..do you activly edit these subjects, your recent edit history does not show that you do? I actually work on these articles and have a good idea of what type of template would be the most useful to other editors and users who are interested in these subjects.Samuraiantiqueworld (talk) 14:59, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Although it might seem appropriate, given the topic under discussion here, let's avoid turning this into a WP:BATTLEGROUND, guys. Yunshui  15:10, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Keep As Samuraiantiqueworld says, there is a lot of interrelationship and crossover bewteen these various items of equipment, so this template avoids the necessity to have a huge See Also section tacked onto the end of each article. Whilst the sword and armour templates are indeed useful, there is a definite advantage to having all of this information boxed in one place: it improves navigation, enables at-a-glance categorisation, and has been responsible for me personally learning about several things I'd not heard of before. I'm not a fan of the title ("Traditional/feudal/medieval Japanese military equipment" would be preferable, in my book, to using "(samurai)"), but the template itself is very useful. Yunshui  08:31, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Having the word "Japanese" at the start of each line is redundant and unnecessary, so I have removed it. — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:22, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
    • If there is a title that would convey the content in a clearer way then by all means change it.Samuraiantiqueworld (talk) 09:47, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
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