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Template:Template name[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:15, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Template name (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Is this used for anything? Is it a warning template, an instructional template? It seems more confusing the anything and redundant to WP:TM. Some of the transclusions I noticed are editors putting a TfD notice on a user talk page but forgetting to replace "template name" with the template's name (ie. {{subst:Tfdnotice|Template name}}) --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 19:26, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The purpose of this template is not clear, duplicates content found on non-Template-space pages, and finally doesn't even appear to be a template. --Izno (talk) 16:35, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Universities in Western Australia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:19, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Universities in Western Australia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant with Template:Australian universities. Professorjohnas (talk) 15:20, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. - Gobeirne (talk) 23:09, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed also (I'm from the WA project) - when there's 5 unis in WA and 40 or so nationally, we're not talking overload to change one to the other. Orderinchaos 03:30, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Israeli Election[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:22, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Israeli Election (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to {{Infobox election}}. 17 transclusions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:55, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep I believe that the infobox {{Infobox Israeli Election}} works better and is more understandable to our readers. I believe that anyone whom is familiar with the Israeli political system would probably agree with me that the infobox {{Infobox election}} does not work as well, mainly because it is a vastly different political system and election system than those which exists in many other countries, or in comparison with the U.S. one for example, and therefore in my opinion it is very important that we would use an infobox that first and foremost would include the essential information regarding all of the parties that passed the threshold (and not just the three parties that won the majority of the votes) as the ruling coalition would eventually include various parties (some of which, in various times, only got a few seats in the elections). In addition, the Israeli prime minister, whom gets to form the coalition, is not necessarily always the party chairman of the party that received the most votes (see the 2009 elections for example) and therefore I believe that putting the prime minister's image under the text "Second party" is more confusing to our readers than the way we currently present the information with the infobox Template:Infobox Israeli Election. In addition, in my opinion, since the individuals whom serve as the party chairmen of the three parties with the majority of votes aren't as significant in the israeli elections as for example the U.S. presidential nominees of the two parties that won the majority of votes (and because we can only include the chairmen of 2 or 3 parties with {{Infobox election}}), I think it would be better not to include any images of any party chairmen (as it was implemented with the infobox Template:Infobox Israeli Election). TheCuriousGnome (talk) 19:34, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- If there are perceived deficiencies in {{Infobox election}}, could they not be remedied? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:24, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - Not really - I don't think it would be possible to create an infobox that would be appropriate to use with 2 candidate presidential elections and 13-party parliamentary elections. But then again I think all election infoboxes should be scrapped as NPOV violations. Number 57 12:57, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - I'm not entirely in disagreement with that position, actually. Orderinchaos 03:34, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep {{Infobox election}} is useless for systems like Israel's, as due to the large number of parties winning seats it would be huge. Number 5 7 22:46, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above. Maybe rename to "Infobox Multi-party Elections" (but this isn't really related to this discussion). Rami R 11:23, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- On the contrary; generalising and renaming would be a perfectly valid outcome, if that's deemed the best solution. If there are to be two infoboxes, perhaps they should be, say, "single party winner" and "coalition"? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:24, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. {{Infobox election}} seems designed for single-winner, few-party elections like those in the United States. For multiparty systems like Israel's (as well as Belgium, the Netherlands, Switzerland), a template like this is more appropriate. Ucucha (talk) 15:10, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I'm an Australian who's analysed Israeli election numbers in the past - what works for us doesn't work for them at all. The notion of a major party there doesn't quite exist as it does here or in other two-party-dominant systems. Orderinchaos 03:32, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I agree with the people above. The regular election template would just end up huge and overcrowded for Israeli elections, and this gets the information across in a compact and easy-to-understand manner.Rivkid007 (talk) 02:45, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No vote, but the whole point of infoboxes is that they show you the summary or the snapshot. Showing all of the parties that won is not a summary; it's everything. As with all summaries, some info has to be chopped away, notwithstanding cries of NPOV. I'd probably be in favor of having three types of infoboxes:

For a single-winner election: president, MP, mayor, etc.
For a multiple-winner election: legislatures
A "general election" infobox that includes all elections done on that day. See United States elections, 2012 for an example.

OR, perhaps this infobox can be made to resemble the original election infobox, without the leaders'/nominees' thumbnails. –H T D 16:14, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Muslims[edit]

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The result of the discussion was redirect Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:24, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Muslims (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Hardly used and there are several other Islam sidebars. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:50, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, redundant to Template:Islam and various others at Category:Islam templates. Brandmeister^talk 13:19, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect/Merge to {{Islam}} -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 02:21, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
redirect Frietjes (talk) 23:42, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:KosovoNameSimple[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:10, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:KosovoNameSimple (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 00:41, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per the IP. Template also has no obvious use in mind. --Izno (talk) 16:37, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:KJV-ref[edit]

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Template:KJV-ref (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 00:39, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per the IP. --Izno (talk) 16:37, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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