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Template:Latest stable software release/BiglyBT[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 18:27, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

A software release template belonging to a deleted article. Non-used template The Banner talk 21:15, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

I have a draft in my sandbox that I'm updating (User:TuxPaper/sandbox/BiglyBT). It has an Software Infobox which I wish to setup with external release data. I followed Template:Infobox_software#Moving_release_data_outside_the_article but that obviously makes a non-draft template, which as you point out, ends up being listed as non-used. Is there documentation on a way to make a draft version that will display correctly in my sandbox draft page? TuxPaper (talk) 23:03, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
As long as there is no community approved article about BiglyBT, the template will be unused. And with your declared COI it is a very bad idea that you work on an article about Bigly. The Banner talk 23:17, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Ignoring COI for the moment, how have previous draft articles setup their templates so that everything would be ready for a review, without running into the "non-used template" issue? If one of the points of a draft is to have it as complete and professional as possible for a reviewer to judge its validity, how have draft creators managed templates like this in the past? (This isn't a rhetorical question, but a genuine one). I don't disagree with your assessment, but I am seeking documentation or direction on this issue in general. TuxPaper (talk) 23:27, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
I have checked a few cases and in all cases the article was older then the template. The Banner talk 08:26, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
One of the reasons this stupid setup fails. It's just a simple line of text, just put it in the infobox like every other piece of text. --Gonnym (talk) 08:29, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Palestine municipality[edit]

Replace and delete

Municipality-specific wrapper for {{Infobox settlement}}, with limited transclusions, on pretty stable sets of articles. Subst:itution will reduce the maintenance overhead, reduce the cognitive burden for editors, and enable articles to benefit more immediately from improvements to the current parent template.

Note: Despite being named "Infobox settlement" the template is not only used for settlements. Per its documentation, Infobox settlement is "used to produce an Infobox for human settlements (cities, towns, villages, communities) as well as other administrative districts, counties, provinces, et cetera—in fact, any subdivision below the level of a country".

Wikipedia:List_of_infoboxes/Geography_and_place#Place:

  1. The only Arab-country having a specific place infobox
  2. The only non-UN-member having a specific place infobox

77.183.60.95 (talk) 20:06, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

{{main other|{{#invoke:Settlement short description|main|{{{settlement_type|{{{type|}}}}}}|{{{short_description|}}}|{{{subdivision_name|}}}|{{{subdivision_name1|}}}|{{{subdivision_name2|}}}}}|}}
Are you aware of any other set of administrative territorial entities that has specific code to generate a short description. In {{Infobox Palestine municipality}} which will be displayed, the selfmade or the one from {{Infobox settlement}}? 77.183.46.198 (talk) 23:44, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
I am not aware of any other specific infoboxes that specifically automatically generate short description code. It would be possible (I think) to implement this with {{Infobox settlement}} by setting the governate value to the subdivision_name parameter and type to the type parameter. However I am still undecided. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 09:44, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Solved. Code has been changed to use the short description code in {{Infobox settlement}}. TerraCyprus (talk) 12:00, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Place infoboxes in Arab League member states and the State of Palestine
Infobox settlement (whole country) Infobox settlement (part of country) Infobox Palestine municipality (part of country)
  1.  Algeria: Provinces of Algeria, Districts of Algeria, Municipalities of Algeria
  2.  Comoros: Autonomous islands of Comoros
  3.  Libya: Governorates of Libya, Districts of Libya
  4.  Morocco: Regions of Morocco, Provinces of Morocco
  5.  Mauritania: Regions of Mauritania, Departments of Mauritania
  6.  Sudan: States of Sudan
  7.  Somalia: Regions of Somalia, Districts of Somalia
  8.  Tunisia: Governorates of Tunisia
  9.  Egypt: Governorates of Egypt, Regional units of Egypt
  10.  United Arab Emirates: Emirates of the United Arab Emirates
  11.  Bahrain: Governorates of Bahrain, Former regions of Bahrain
  12.  Iraq: Governorates of Iraq, Districts of Iraq
  13.  Jordan: Governorates of Jordan, Districts of Jordan
  14.  Kuwait: Governorates of Kuwait
  15.  Lebanon: Governorates of Lebanon, Districts of Lebanon
  16.  Oman: Governorates of Oman, Provinces of Oman
  17.  Saudi Arabia: Regions of Saudi Arabia, Governorates of Saudi Arabia
  18.  Syria: Governorates of Syria, Districts of Syria
  19.  Yemen: Governorates of Yemen, Districts of Yemen
  1.  Palestine: Governorates of Palestine
  1.  Palestine: Non-governorates of Palestine

77.191.61.64 (talk) 11:52, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

  • Replace and delete per nom.--Darwinek (talk) 22:19, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Replace and delete per nom. JelgavaLV (talk) 14:55, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

JJMC89 could you close this? 1x Keep, 3x Replace and delete. Also the template code has been changed, concerns of the 1x Neutral vote addressed. 89.14.130.139 (talk) 11:32, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:24, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Unused. Useddenim (talk) 15:57, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Delete Per nom pretty much. The nominator replaced the call to this template to {{rint}} last year on Template:Pacific Electric, which I agree with, as it's better to standardise this kind of template to help with maintainability. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 20:11, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Delete I created this page and its function has now been replaced by more standardized processes. It's not being used and should never be needed again. Lexlex (talk) 07:45, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Angola Squad 2002 FIBA World Championship[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 05:05, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

4th or lower place squad, not notable, and duplicates 2002 FIBA World Championship squads, 2004 FIBA Africa Clubs Champions Cup squads, 2005 FIBA Africa Clubs Champions Cup squads, 2007 FIBA Africa Clubs Champions Cup squads, 2009 FIBA Asia Championship squads, 2012 FIBA Africa Clubs Champions Cup squads, and 2013 FIBA Africa Clubs Champions Cup squads. for prior discussion see here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, ... Frietjes (talk) 15:13, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete all per WP:TCREEP. Teams that do not earn a medal do not need the Wikipedia equivalent of a participation trophy. Also consistent with prior TfDs listed in nom.—Bagumba (talk) 11:22, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
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Substitution of Template:BOTREQ[edit]

Canned-response templates are generally substituted, with the exception of templates for venues that don't have a permanent archive (RfPP, AIV). WP:BOTREQ is archived, so its template should be substituted for consistency reasons. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 03:37, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Make subst-only per nom --DannyS712 (talk) 03:41, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
I've advertised this at Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard and Wikipedia talk:Bot requests. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 03:42, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
  • We don't typically make templates with files in them subst-only. --Izno (talk) 04:02, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
    @Izno: Yes we do: Template:HD's subtemplates, and Template:ESp and its ilk are all subst-only despite containing files. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 04:03, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
<moved from TfD> {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 00:42, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Is there a specific problem that would be fixed by making this subst only? It seems like a net-negative IMO. Legoktm (talk) 20:03, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Seems in line with all the other reply and message templates to keep archive history consistent. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 20:58, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Reach Records[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 05:45, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Per precedent, record label navboxes should not include catalogues or rosters. --woodensuperman 12:09, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

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Template:CFC US[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 05:57, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

As all contestants are celebrities, this fails WP:PERFNAV --woodensuperman 10:55, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

  • delete, over navboxing. Frietjes (talk) 13:35, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Bhad Bhabie[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:23, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

With just three entries, this is not sufficient to provide useful navigation. WP:NENAN. --woodensuperman 09:54, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete as premature with hardly any links. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 10:39, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
  • delete, the articles are already well-connected. Frietjes (talk) 13:36, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Grace VanderWaal[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:23, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

With just three entries, this is not sufficient to provide useful navigation WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 09:53, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete as premature with hardly any links. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 10:39, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
  • delete, the articles are already well-connected. Frietjes (talk) 13:36, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Lil Nas X[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 05:58, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Not enough entries to provide meaningful navigation. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 09:49, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep - No doubt this template is only going to grow as he releases more singles and some songs from his EP may also chart. Certain people *cough* need to find more constructive work on WP instead of always trying to get rid of templates.—NØ 09:57, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
See WP:CRYSTAL. If and when more there are more notable releases, then a navbox can be recreated. Until then, this navbox serves no purpose. Some people should find more constructive things to do than create useless navboxes. --woodensuperman 10:05, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete as premature with hardly any links. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 10:39, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
  • delete, premature, but can be recreated when more articles are created. Frietjes (talk) 13:37, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Uw-violence[edit]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 June 17. Primefac (talk) 01:34, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

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Template:Infobox Latter Day Saint biography[edit]

Propose merging Template:Infobox Latter Day Saint biography with Template:Infobox religious biography.
Similar infobox and WP:INFOCOL. Capankajsmilyo(Talk | Infobox assistance) 07:36, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

  • Comment: How does the proposer envision dealing with the parameters listed under "Specialized information for Latter Day Saint Leadership", "For Political office holders", and "Military Service" in {{Infobox Latter Day Saint biography}}? This would not be a straightforward merge. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:49, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Tentative Oppose Changing to Comment: Per Jonesey, there are a number of parameters in the Latter Day Saint biography which would need to be addressed. Several are unique enough to warrant a unique template. If the parameters are dealt with, I support the merge. Rollidan (talk) 14:24, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
  • create a module with the LDS specific information and refactor {{Infobox Latter Day Saint biography}} to use that module. by the way, this actually looks closer to {{infobox officeholder}}. Frietjes (talk) 15:01, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Replace with a module per Frietjes. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:34, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
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