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Template:Uw-gamingX

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 July 18. (non-admin closure) Techie3 (talk) 13:52, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Battles of the Frankokratia

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The result of the discussion was Delete This has been open for two months and has received no comments other than one IP I'm discarding as WP:JUSTAVOTE. So I guess nobody other than the nominator cares, and their preferred outcome seems to be deletion, and so it goes. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:04, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Summary: I tried to fix this campaignbox today, but it has so many issues that I think it needs a community review. Deletion is my default option, but if we can agree to a substantial overhaul, the campaignbox might still be kept in an altered form (my suggestion is splitting it up in 3 campaignboxes, but I'm open to other proposals). Although TFD is not cleanup, I noticed that in this and many other related articles and talk pages, there barely is any discussion, and there are lots of undiscussed moves. I don't think me being WP:BOLD would help in this case. So I think WP:CENTRALised discussion is necessary to establish consensus first, and TFD seems a good place to do it with this template.

Rationale:

  • This campaignbox fails WP:TG #3, 5, 8.
  • This campaignbox does not comply with WP:NAVBOX #1, 2, 3, 4.
  • This campaignbox does not comply with WP:NAV-RELATED #1, 2.
  • This campaignbox might meet WP:TFD#REASONS #2 for Deletion because of significant overlap with the "History" section of Template:Frankokratia. (Nevertheless, many of the same issues identified above and below may apply to Template:Frankokratia itself. A follow-up might discuss whether that template can be brought in compliance as well).

Explanation: Byzantine–Frankish conflicts of the Frankokratia very poorly explains what the template's function, usage and scope is, which is not documented anywhere. The article Frankokratia has a very poorly defined scope itself: it can basically refer to any territorial possession of a "Frankish" (Latin/Catholic Christian/Western European) polity on any former territory of the Byzantine Empire from 1204 to 1797. Besides, "Byzantine" can refer to any polity claiming to represent the Byzantine Empire in that same period, such as the Latin Empire (although that is counted as "Frankish" here), Empire of Nicaea, Empire of Thessalonica, Empire of Trebizond, Despotate of Epirus, Despotate of Thessaly, etc. For the Struggle for Constantinople (1204–1261) section (originally "Nicaean-Latin Wars", an WP:OR article title that has been turned into a redirect), it seems that all conflicts between "Byzantine" factions on both sides (and "Frankish" factions on both sides) have been excluded, except perhaps the Battle of Pelagonia, where the "Byzantine" Despotate of Epirus joined forces with several "Latin" states against the "Byzantine" Empire of Nicaea, so that overall, the battle can still be considered a "Byzantine–Frankish conflict". This is really stretching things, and tantamount to WP:OR/WP:SYNTH. Which brings me to the objections of WP:NAVBOX #1, 2, 3, 4, and WP:NAV-RELATED #1, 2:

  • There is no Wikipedia article on the subject of the template, namely Byzantine–Frankish conflicts of the Frankokratia, there is only Frankokratia;
  • Byzantine–Frankish conflicts of the Frankokratia is not a single, coherent subject;
  • this subject is not mentioned in every [linked] article;
  • the linked articles do not all refer to each other, to a reasonable extent, certainly not between the 5 sections of the campaignbox;
  • the articles are not established as related by reliable sources in the actual articles, certainly not between the 5 sections of the campaignbox;
  • Articles included in a navigation template should be more than loosely-related, but may include tangentially-related topics (...); in my opinion, the 5 sections are loosely-related, and especially the 5th section Wars with the Venetians, Catalans, and others is essentially a catch-all for any battles any "Byzantine" state had with any "Frankish" state that cannot be grouped with any of the other 4 sections above it.

Proposal: Therefore, I think the most reasonable alternative to deletion is to split up this campaignbox into 3 separate campaignboxes:

  • Sections 1 and 2 may be split off as a Campaignbox Struggle for Constantinople (1204–1261), with Constantinople (1203) and Constantinople (1204) as a prelude (tangentially-related topics).
  • Section 3 may be split off as a Campaignbox Achaean–Byzantine conflicts (1263–1375) if this does not violate any of the campaignbox guidelines (since it does not have a main article, but it does have two clear belligerents)
  • Section 4 may be split off as a Campaignbox Angevin–Byzantine conflict (1270s–1281) if this does not violate any of the campaignbox guidelines (since it does not have a main article, but it does have two clear belligerents)
  • Section 5 should just be removed, because it is a catch-all that will still violate the campaignbox guidelines on its own, and cannot be merged into the other 3 proposed campaignboxes.

But if we cannot reach agreement on that, or another overhaul that anyone else might propose below, then deletion remains my preferred option. I'm interested in hearing your feedback. Good day, NLeeuw (talk) 14:16, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Cplakidas, Commenenian, Srnec, Koopinator, Greco22, and Go-Chlodio: For your information. You seem to be some of the most relevant editors in this topic area, and I think your perspective might be helpful here. Feel free to leave feedback here if you like. Good day, NLeeuw (talk) 14:28, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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I think splitting it into multiple templates or keeping it might be our best bet here. 2600:1004:B170:E085:0:9:8B42:AA01 (talk) 20:49, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Alabama Cooperative Extension System

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The result of the discussion was delete as the main page this is related to is already deleted, as non notable. (non-admin closure) Techie3 (talk) 13:48, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've nominated the main ACES article for deletion for issues of promotion/spam/COI (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alabama Cooperative Extension System), so the associated template would also need to be deleted Shredlordsupreme (talk) 17:42, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I agree with the nom here. If the topic was deleted, then the topic isn't notable. Gonnym (talk) 08:20, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Culture of Hungary

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:30, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Covered sufficiently by navbox (and attempts to duplicate content from it), doesn't need a sidebar. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:58, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:SIP Library

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 06:23, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sidebar templates are a way of connecting closely-related content, not advertising books. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:58, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'd like to dispute this nomination. Firstly, it’s not advertising. These are three examplars of open children's stories, that were created by Social Publishers. There is no advertising here, the books are free to download and are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution licence. Secondly, Wikipedia is concerned with providing every single human being to freely share in the sum of all knowledge. This project is teaching basic skills so that they can read, and use Wikipedia. Thirdly, if this is seen as advertising of books, then how do you justify the existence of this sidebar? Template:Bible sidebar Derek J Moore (talk) 19:25, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The content isn't necessarily a problem. I just think it would be better contained in the external links section of Book Dash than in a sidebar. Other than Book Dash, this sidebar only appears in African Storybook, and there I find the information to be extraneous. The title of the sidebar is a red link, which is somewhat problematic for readily identifying what the sidebar is about. --Bsherr (talk) 23:35, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    First, thanks for adding this to a template to a particular category Literature_sidebar templates. That was helpful. If I may summerise. I cannot see consensus. Avertising is not a problem and neither is content. Fair point about the location of the template. I can move it to the bottom of the page. The title of the sidebar is a red link, because other editors deemed that social impact publishing was not notable. The easiest solution then is to remove the link (which I have done). It won't look good for Wikipedia to be deleting free and remixable children's books, especially when the country where these books are produced (South africa) has an extremely poor record of reading. If you are worried about use of the template, that will change, as other language versions see the idea and choose to incorporate it into their pages. But we are very much still at the beginning of a Wikipedia journey. Derek J Moore (talk) 16:54, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't necessarily find it promotional. I am wondering why this needs to be a template. Why can't this information just be put directly into the external links section of Book Dash? Wikipedias in a given language do not transclude templates from Wikipedias in other languages, so that doesn't justify the template. --Bsherr (talk) 15:42, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello @Bsherr, thanks for the comment. You may have noticed that this template appears in a few public library pages. Weltevredenpark Public Library is a suburban library with loads of children's activities. It also appears at Alexandra_Children's Library which is in the township of Alexandra, just next door to Sandton. This was once a "Container Library" and space is constrained. Open children's books can be accessed from this library space. And should a local librarian or two, want to add a vernacular language version, then they will be able to do so, in a suburban or township setting.
    I'm interested in your comment:
    >> "Wikipedias in a given language do not transclude templates from Wikipedias in other languages"
    There is no good reason for not transcluding to other languages and we can learn much more about the sum of human knowledge if we are willing to be multi lingual. Derek J Moore (talk) 08:17, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The side bar is to navigate between articles of related topics. The "content" section of this sidebar, has zero topics and leads to wikisource. This is invalid usage. Gonnym (talk) 08:18, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Atarimania

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The result of the discussion was soft delete * Pppery * it has begun... 18:18, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

While I like this sites archival information and very dedicated research, it features emulation of the games it links to. Which would be against WP:ELNEVER and WP:VGs standards on linking to external (see Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Video_games#External_links). Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:42, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can you state an example where you see a copyright violation? Matthias M. (talk) 07:03, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've mostly seen this link related to Atari 2600 games. But the link on the Air-Sea Battle page clearly link to the site where you have links to either "Download" a ROM or play the game in-browser. Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:19, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Seems to be similar to Template:archive.org with

Air-Sea Battle is available for free viewing and download at the Internet Archive

then. I think it is overkill to delete the whole template, but maybe remove the link on that specific article if the game is still copyrighted and there is no permission. Matthias M. (talk) 08:26, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Probably true. Its very hard to decipher what is on archive.org that is legal, and what isn't though. I feel weird even removing a link stating that it offers downloads to copyrighted material as its basically just re-announcing its got copyrighted material. Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:42, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hard to balance that out though as Internet Archive is a gigantic page with over a million games 14 million films. This is a significantly smaller site where nearly every game listed has the ability to play in browser or download a emulated file of. Is there a significant level of pages that do not offer them? I've searched around, and only found a few, but mostly that the dumps of games were "missing" implying that they will be added when available. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:05, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As this has been re-posted to find further discussion. Looking it through, nearly every game for the systems it covers I've chosen at random provides emulation to download. The site while containing a lot of information, is predominantly a collection of roms. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:10, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Wagner Seahawks women's basketball women's basketball navbox

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:28, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Only two other articles. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 12:09, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Eastern Connecticut State University

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:26, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Links one other article. Useless for navigation. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 12:05, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Southern Connecticut State University

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:25, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Links one other article, useless for navigation. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 12:03, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:New Haven Chargers football navbox

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:24, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Links a stadium and one season, useless for navigation. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 12:01, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Conference of New England men's lacrosse navbox

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:22, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Only links one other article so nothing to navigate. WP:NENAN. --woodensuperman 12:00, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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with this link it would encourage other schools to create their own pages, this should make it easier. Sportsstatsguy (talk) 19:16, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Hindustani Classical Music sidebar

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Hindustani Classical Music. ✗plicit 14:32, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Hindustani Classical Music sidebar with Template:Hindustani Classical Music.
These are two sidebars on the same topic. I propose to merge the newer one with longer name into the older one with shorter name. —⁠andrybak (talk) 05:16, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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