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First edit to Wikipedia from space[edit]

Please join me in giving a very warm welcome and congratulations to User:Astro Christina (Christina Koch) for making the very first edit to Wikipedia[citation needed] from outer space! [1][2] Thank you also to Darenwelsh for his role in this helping us achieve this milestone. I think I can speak for everyone that we are very proud, and look forward to the first edit from the Moon, Mars, and beyond! MusikAnimal talk 21:52, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

I also invite you all to read Daren's story, in particular the 5-year Wikiversary NASA report. It's amazing how much MediaWiki has improved information sharing at NASA, with a growth pattern that mirrors Wikipedia. It's stories like this, and Christina's edit, that make me so proud to be a part of the movement. You should be, too. MusikAnimal talk 21:52, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Do we need to update the edit activity by country map to include a new category? Though personally I feel Christina missed a golden opportunity to have a "Hello, World" v2.0! (but it's still awesome!) Nosebagbear (talk) 09:26, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
This is insanely cool! ~ Amory (utc) 19:39, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Sad to say, Koch has a clear WP:COI with the article she edited and so in the future, she'll need to kibitz on the talk page rather than edit that article directly... FROM SPACE! Elizium23 (talk) 04:21, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, right. Masum Reza📞 07:42, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
How fun! I'm drooling at the thought of outer space vandals that can't be geolocated- SPACE PIRATES! Jip Orlando (talk) 21:09, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
better go tag that diff with {{citation needed}} then... :) --Masem (t) 21:14, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Sold to Google Google Code-In[edit]

Unbelievable. I was notified that Wikipedia is engaging Google [3]. My replies were annihilated [4]. #NoToGoogle. -DePiep (talk) 22:26, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

BTW, it is named "Google Code-In" mw:Google Code-in/2019. -DePiep (talk) 22:39, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
And it's been happening for a few years now. Students learn a lot and make lots of improvements to MW. It looks like your commentary was reverted because it was placed on the project page instead its discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:19, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
"Code-in" it says, but hey that's not tech. Anyway, main question is: why does Wikipedia accept stuff/money/support from commercial Google? -DePiep (talk) 23:27, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
I fail to see your point. Why does Google being "commercial" suddenly make accepting donations or support objectionable? This happens all the time. Your comments seem to be way over the top, as evidenced by your blatant personal attack on Jimbotalk. – Teratix 00:11, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Simple, first: paying WP is one, having a project named "Google" is two. (IOW: why, you think, would Google ever think of paying? To make Wikipedia independent?). -DePiep (talk) 00:15, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Code-in is not a WMF project that Google has bought the naming rights to, it's an external project, run by Google, that the WMF happened to sign up to. So the page is called "Google Code-in" because that is the name of the competition, not because Google bought the WMF as you seem to be insinuating. – Teratix 00:28, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
I don't think it's a problem that Google decided to start a project to recruit student programmers to volunteer for Wikimedia, or that the WMF and volunteer Mediawiki developers engage with these students recruited by Google. --Yair rand (talk) 21:37, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
For the record, Google Code-in started in 2007–08 (2010 with the current name and system). Wikimedia has participated since 2013 and has always been one of many participants, 29 in 2019. And Wikimedia has participated in Google Summer of Code since 2006: mw:Google Summer of Code. I don't see anything nefarious in this. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:04, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • I've revised the section title to be more representative of the content here. I do think that DePiep is over-reacting, but there are plenty of people out there that react viscerally whenever Google is mentioned, could even call it GDS for Google Derangement Syndrome as it bears similarity to Trump Derangement Syndrome. Folks on the far side of reaction take Google's former "Do no Evil" as a diversion underwhich they aimed from the beginning to do exactly the opposite. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 15:59, 28 November 2019 (UTC)


Please move the article of Nicolae Botgros from draft to the main space as he is notable enough because he is one of the most important conductors from Moldova. He has articles on other wikipedias, including french. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:08, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Extension of Wikipedia Asian Month contest[edit]

In consideration of a week-long internet block in Iran, Wikipedia Asian Month 2019 contest has been extended for a week past November. The articles submitted till 7th December 2019, 23:59 UTC will be accepted by the fountain tools of the participating wikis.

Please help us translate and spread this message in your local language.

Wikipedia Asian Month International Team

--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:16, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Giannis VardinogiannisYannis Vardinoyannis[edit]

Hi! Here it seems we have two articles on the very same person. Please excuse if this note is wrongly placed. -- (talk) 15:34, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Weird redirection[edit]

Gore (film) redirects to Kevin_Spacey#Sexual_misconduct_allegations -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:41, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

@Basile Morin: Due to the discussion here: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Gore_(film) RudolfRed (talk) 02:04, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, RudolfRed. I wondered if it could be vandalism -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:22, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
I wonder if that shouldn't redirect to Splatter film. --Izno (talk) 14:11, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
A bit confusing, but Gore film currently redirects to Splatter film. According to Gore (disambiguation), Gore (film) [is] a cancelled biographical film about Gore Vidal -- Basile Morin (talk) 15:48, 28 November 2019 (UTC)


Please note that Mariss Jansons died on 1 december 2019 according to russian wikipedia. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:48, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

I see that sourced information about his death (which was actually late yesterday, but reported today) has been added to our article. Phil Bridger (talk) 10:35, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

WMF Fundraising on[edit]

Hey All

Later today we will be launching our upcoming annual fundraising campaigns in Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the USA, and the United Kingdom. This campaigns sees us raise approximately half of the annual funds for the Wikimedia movement. The banners form just one component and since October, our E-mail fundraising programme has already been running in these countries.

There are a number of ways you can help support the fundraiser:

  • If you see a donor on a talk page, OTRS, or social media with questions about donating or having difficulties in the donation process, please refer them to: donate @

As always, can I thank the community for all your help and patience over the coming weeks. It's hugely appreciated. Seddon (WMF) (talk) 13:58, 2 December 2019 (UTC)