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January 9[edit]

01:02:10, 9 January 2016 review of submission by Inazo1862[edit]


Hello. As per requested, I have added more third-party references, including CNN, Nikkei, Sydney Morning Herald etc. Thank you very much for your time and consideration. Best. Inazo1862 (talk) 01:02, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

@Inazo1862: The draft has since been accepted! Congratulations on the article. /wiae /tlk 02:20, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

12:56:11, 9 January 2016 review of submission by Retengineer[edit]

I have submitted the draft several times. I appreciate the help you and the other editors have given me, but every time the draft is rejected I make the changes you suggest, and every time there seem to be new things that need changing. Following your last rejection of my submission I have corrected citations where you noted ‘not in citation’ . I have added citations where you noted ‘citation needed’. I have deleted entries where I could not provide a citation. The only citation I have not changed is citation 11. Please have another look at this as I believe it does support the statement. If you click ‘html’ and read the cited article, you will find the following sentence: ‘In expressing her disappointment that Canada does not seem have nurtured (yet!) a particularly local version of the British JK Rowling, Phillip Pullman or Brian Jacques, or the US’s Tamora Pierce, Robin McKinley or Ursula le Guin, or even the Australians Patricia Wrightson, Garth Nix or Anna Ciddor, she establishes an expectation ...’ In this sentence the fantasy writers listed from the UK, US and Australia are given as examples of top writers in each country. Doesn't this support the statement that Anna Ciddor has been described as one of the top fantasy writers in Australia? Thank you again for your help.Retengineer (talk) 12:56, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

@Retengineer: LaMonda gave you some advice which you seemed to have follow. Resubmit it and someone will take another look. jcc (tea and biscuits) 19:00, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

17:17:33, 9 January 2016 review of submission by Shibuejyoji39085[edit]


Hi all, I understand that my "Visions for Children" draft was denied due to the lack of proof of notability. In terms of finding more "in-depth" references, is it OK if I continue using German language sources/newspapers, or would that also be a reason for denying the article?

@Shibuejyoji39085: Nope, German language sources are fine as long as they prove its notability. jcc (tea and biscuits) 19:01, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

18:46:41, 9 January 2016 review of submission by Gustav Berlin[edit]

Thank you. I sent this material to Jewish Gen. I am the author of the material which is with JewishGen. Berliner material is from my research and in my book: The Mahler Family in the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (2015).



Gustav Berlin (talk) 18:46, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

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January 10[edit]

01:27:01, 10 January 2016 review of submission by Friends of Luck 82[edit]


How is it possible to submit pictures for review or to support articles ? In the past I have attached files without being able to see if the image fits well within the body of the text. Friends of Luck 82 (talk) 01:27, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

@Friends of Luck 82: Don't worry about images yet- though you can try using visual editor which is a bit like using Microsoft Word. To add references click the "cite" button on Visual Editor or see WP:Referencing for beginners to see how you can add references. jcc (tea and biscuits) 10:14, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

06:52:24, 10 January 2016 review of submission by Yazhouliu[edit]


I have re-submitted the article over 10 years ago. I have not received any feedback/decisions yet. Would you please give me an status update? Thanks!

Yazhouliu (talk) 06:52, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

You resubmitted the draft on 31 December, so only 10 days ago, not 10 years! --David Biddulph (talk) 09:56, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
@Yazhouliu: The draft has been accepted into the main article space. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 16:59, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

07:50:27, 10 January 2016 review of submission by TimeMist[edit]


I am a first timer trying to write an article about a notable man that has made significant contributions in technology and company development. My problems are:

1. He worked a longtime ago before internet had online content 1980 that was useful. Some of his early work was not online and eventually the paper archives exceeded the statutes after 20 years of storage. 2. He has several technology patents that are easy to refer to and many companies created derivative patents from his also easy to refer to (USPTO) 3. He owned several companies and those facts have been clearly referenced in many sites and contents. But the work those companies did are usually found in press releases published with reputable quotes from top executives in companies such as HP, Microsoft, etc. I don't know how to refer to those PR even though they are in industry magazines. 4. I was provided with some files and pictures that he owns but now I am getting messages that they are set for deletion. How do I get them used in the article? They are authentic. 5. Any help is appreciated. By the way this person once had an article in wikipedia that had been deleted after 5 years of no updates and non-verifiable sources. I am trying to make a better article because this person is quite notable and I believe the world needs to know. That is my personal charter as a new author, to try and resurrect worthy past articles with better research.

I hope you can help me. It is greatly appreciated already. TimeMist (talk) 07:50, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

TimeMist (talk) 07:50, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

@TimeMist: Regarding point 3, use Template:Cite magazine, or using Visual Editor, click the cite button, then the magazine button. Regarding point 4, all images for living people have to be free (under the right license and with prove). Did Mr Collazo give you the images? jcc (tea and biscuits) 10:18, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice. I will try to use the Cite magazine template. Yes, he did provide me with the images and files. TimeMist (talk) 17:02, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

20:59:50, 10 January 2016 review of submission by Mary Bufe[edit]


This is my first time submitting a page. It has gone very smoothly, with one exception: the info box. I have uploaded a photo and copied an info box template into the page following the directions I found online. I also tried to create this infobox in the sandbox. In both cases, I have not succeeded in seeing how this will actually look on the finished page. Have I done something wrong, or is this something that happens at your end?

Thanks! Mary Bufe

Mary Bufe (talk) 20:59, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

@Mary Bufe: Hi, and welcome to the Help Desk! The infobox at Draft:Dan Shugar has been fixed so that it appears correctly. It looks like it was hidden between "nowiki" tags, so it wouldn't show up correctly. You can take a look at Template:Infobox to learn more about how generic infoboxes work. I uncommented the birth date parameter in the infobox so it is also visible.
The draft is in the review queue, and an experienced reviewer will take a closer look at the draft in the coming days or weeks to give you their feedback. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 21:17, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

22:47:00, 10 January 2016 review of submission by Mary Bufe[edit]


I am working on a wikipedia page for a company in the solar industry, and for reasons that I can't figure out, when I cite articles from an industry publication -- pv-magazine.com -- they are rejected because the site is "blacklisted." Here is an example: (OOPS! This page wouldn't save because I got a message saying that the link was blacklisted.

This is a legitimate industry magazine. Can you provide me any insights on what the problem might be, or how I can get around it? I have several citations from articles in this publication (online).

I am sorry. I didn't realize that you couldn't see what I was working on. The page is for NEXTracker, Inc. I am unable to save it at this time because of this blacklisted link. I'm requesting that you "un-blacklist" pv-magazine.com so I can cite several articles about the solar industry and this company. It is an important source for what I have been working on.

Mary Bufe (talk) 22:47, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

For the time being, I would suggest using sites other than pv-magazine to show WP:N. You could add in plaintext mentions to the article but without the hyperlink. After that, see about adding in the specific URL(s) to Spam Whitelist. LionMans Account (talk) 02:05, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

January 11[edit]

07:05:39, 11 January 2016 review of submission by MelitaFernandes[edit]


MelitaFernandes (talk) 07:05, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello! I need to request an existing wikipedia editor to edit my article. How can i get help from other editors who can willingly rework on the article. My existing article can serve as a reference draft. Thanks MelitaFernandes (talk) 07:05, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

12:12:43, 11 January 2016 review of submission by Dele at Zoe[edit]


Hi we would like to have information about our article, because it didn't accepted, we have respect all conditions and we putted all reference, we don't understand why for second time the article was not accepted. We hope that you can help us.

Dele at Zoe (talk) 12:12, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

@Dele at Zoe: Hello, and welcome to the Help Desk! I declined your draft because it did not show why the company was suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. (This is known as "notability".) In order to be considered for acceptance, such articles require a variety of high-quality references from reliable sources, and the coverage therein should be significant and in-depth. At the time of submission, one reference was to the company's own website, meaning it is not an independent source of information and thus does not help show notability. Keep in mind that the references you cite should be about Zoe Records, not by Zoe Records.
I see you have added some new references to the draft. Can you provide some more information about them so that future reviewers and readers can track them down? The type of bibliographic information needed includes date of publication, author, magazine, page number, publishing house and the like. Then we can find those sources and assess them. Thanks, /wiae ★ /tlk 17:38, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Do you have a conflict of interest? You should expect conflict-of-interest drafts to be reviewed critically. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:36, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

16:30:52, 11 January 2016 review of submission by Azeeq Mazlan[edit]


Azeeq Mazlan (talk) 16:30, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Dealt with below. /wiae ★ /tlk 17:34, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Request on 16:46:31, 11 January 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Jules Delacey[edit]


I have submitted an article with citation and it has been declined. i thought the whole point was for people to help edit them? It's been declined with no help edits.

Jules Delacey (talk) 16:46, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Request on 17:11:20, 11 January 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Azeeq Mazlan[edit]



Azeeq Mazlan (talk) 17:11, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

@Azeeq Mazlan: Hello, and welcome to the Help Desk. Do you have a specific question about your draft? It was declined because it does not contain any content. Further, note that writing an autobiography on Wikipedia is strongly discouraged, due in large part to the conflict-of-interest issues it raises. Thanks, /wiae ★ /tlk 17:33, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

19:15:11, 11 January 2016 review of submission by Jesus Rey-Joly[edit]


Any help would be much appreciated to make this draft about Carlos Miranda acceptable. The first two paragraphs do not have inline citations. Is this why the draft has been rejected? Is there anything else that requires amendments in any way? I would be happy to comply with any requirements that I can understand more specifically. Thanks for your help. Jesus Rey-Joly

Hi, User:Jesus Rey-Joly. I just had a look at the draft. I clicked through on some of the references and there are some problems. If you haven't already done so, go read wp:rs which is the page about "reliable sources." You've used some sources that don't meet the criteria there. For example, the svrproducciones source is a sales site, and that is not a reliable source. I know that you were intending to link to proof that the album exists, but in this case it's best not. The "list of students by teacher" and the Zoominfo entry also should be removed. If you would like, I could go through and edit out the sources that shouldnt' be there, then we could see where the gaps are. I think we can make this work. LaMona (talk) 16:45, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

20:56:48, 11 January 2016 review of submission by Aboulouei1[edit]


Aboulouei1 (talk) 20:56, 11 January 2016 (UTC)--Aboulouei1 (talk) 20:56, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

@Aboulouei1: Hello, and welcome to the Help Desk. Your draft was declined because it is in French. This is the English-language Wikipedia. You may want to consider joining the French-language Wikipedia. Thanks, /wiae ★ /tlk 23:05, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

21:24:47, 11 January 2016 review of submission by Cgelineli[edit]

Could you please point out specific sentences where you feel the article reads like an advertisement as now that is the message I am getting for non publication? I will happily rewrite with some specific feedback. Is there anything specific I should delete altogether? Thank you! Cgelineli (talk) 21:24, 11 January 2016 (UTC)cgelineli

Cgelineli (talk) 21:24, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Request on 22:29:51, 11 January 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by 679699sof[edit]


I don't know how to put the footnotes into the biography of Adriana Sanford. Is it possible to have someone assist me with this part?


679699sof (talk) 22:29, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Another editor published it at Adriana Sanford. MatthewVanitas (talk) 23:02, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

January 12[edit]

02:36:49, 12 January 2016 review of submission by 2601:646:0:64AD:CC22:1F17:327B:5500[edit]


Can you provide more detail about why this submission read more like an advertisement? Any specific text or sections? And which sources might be causing this? Since this is our third submission, any specific tips would be very helpful. Our goal here is to submit a factual listing of Shop It To Me. How can we change this to comply with the guidelines. Thank you for your help.

Hello, and welcome to the Help Desk. The first issue is who the "we" is that you refer to. If you are affiliated with Shop It To Me, then you have a conflict of interest and should read the guidelines I linked to in this sentence.
As for the draft, some of the content does, to me, read like an advertisement, or at least could be worded more clearly. For example, what is an "online personal shopping assistant for sales of clothing shoes and accessories"? Does that mean there is a person employed by Shop It To Me, with whom you can arrange purchases via the website? Is it automated? How does the website help you shop? This seems unclear from the draft. I would probably remove the content about Shop It To Me's competitors, as it seems slightly off-topic. I noticed also that the draft mentions "Shop It To Me Running", but doesn't really say what it is or why it's important. Similarly, some of the content about the iOS app (in particular, the content about passwords and email links) seems promotional and should probably be removed. Finally, the particular brands listed in the "Usage" section could be removed, and this section could be expanded with a clearer explanation of how Shop It To Me actually works.
These suggestions should get you started. You know where to find us if you have further questions! /wiae ★ /tlk 00:42, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Request on 05:56:36, 12 January 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by 122.15.41.5[edit]


Why my page is always rejected the fact is that I create my page best of guidliness and give reference according to content 122.15.41.5 (talk) 05:56, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to the Help Desk. Have you looked at the latest comments left by reviewer LaMona? They very helpfully explain some of the issues with the current iteration of the draft and some ways it could be improved. Thanks, /wiae ★ /tlk 00:37, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

15:50:11, 12 January 2016 review of submission by Jasiunas[edit]


Submitted the article on December 23 however, did not receive any response yet.I know you guys are busy, just want to check if everything is ok? Thank you in advance. Jasiunas (talk) 15:50, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

@Jasiunas: Hi, and welcome to the Help Desk. It seems as though you did not actually submit the draft for review on December 23. (This is the version of the draft as it appeared on December 23, and it says "Draft article not currently submitted for review.".) You did submit the draft yesterday, however, and it's since been reviewed, so do check out the comment on the draft and use that information to help you improve it if possible. Thanks, /wiae ★ /tlk 00:31, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Request on 19:41:11, 12 January 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Cgelineli[edit]


Is there a minimum limit on the number of words or characters an article can have? Thanks Cgelineli (talk) 19:41, 12 January 2016 (UTC)cgelineli


Cgelineli (talk) 19:41, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello @Cgelineli:. I'm not sure if there's any genuine "must be X characters" rule, but at minimum even a stub article should clearly show the "who, what, why, when, where" of the topic, or at least most of those. I myself have written a couple articles that were just maybe two sentences long. But even a short article should have at least a couple sources/footnotes to show the reader where even that very brief information comes from. MatthewVanitas (talk) 23:05, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

21:11:30, 12 January 2016 review of submission by UsaKE[edit]


USA AE 21:11, 12 January 2016 (UTC) Why was my request to keep my new page open declined?!

Hello @UsaKE:. Did you mean User:UsaKE/sandbox? It is still "open", it isn't deleted, you're free to edit it. It hasn't been Accepted because it's not an encyclopedia article, it's just your opinion about the Star Wars movie, we have zero reason to publish it, so please don't take up volunteers' time by Submitting it for review. MatthewVanitas (talk) 23:09, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

21:43:54, 12 January 2016 review of submission by Efashionsports[edit]


Efashionsports (talk) 21:43, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

EXOTIC Fashion Magazine

What the changes I would need to get this entry approved?

Hello @Efashionsports:, did you read the Notability guideline for Companies recommended to you in the big pink box at the top of your draft? Please read WP:Notability (companies) first since that probably answers all your questions, but come back here and post any specific follow-up questions you have for us after taking a quick look at the guideline. MatthewVanitas (talk) 23:07, 12 January 2016 (UTC)


January 13[edit]

00:06:56, 13 January 2016 review of submission by MichaelCottam[edit]


I'm looking for a more detailed explanation of why my submission was declined. The reason given was a link to the notability article. Here's the page in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:InstallAware_Software

I've read the notability requirements pretty carefully, and I'd like to share my thoughts on why I do think it meets those requirements: "Notability requires only that these necessary sources have been published—even if these sources are not actually listed in the article yet" - we've listed a number of really strong sources (Microsoft's developer magazine MSDN; multiple awards from Microsoft's Visual Studio Magazine; and Dev Source magazine (a Ziff-Davis publication...ZD being probably one of the biggest publishing houses in the world). IT Ninja is a subsidiary of Dell, and a huge resource for the development community. Granted, some of these don't have the article online, but we did provide screen shots taken from when the articles were online, or scans of the print magazines. From my perspective, these are really cornerstone publications in the industry, from the biggest software company in the world and by one of the biggest magazine publishing companies in the world. Yes, the field is a nerdy software niche, but each of these has millions of readers. "When evaluating the notability of organizations or products, please consider whether they have had any significant or demonstrable effects on culture, society, entertainment, athletics, economies, history, literature, science, or education." - clearly InstallAware has had a significant effect on the software industry (in that a substantial percentage of application developers use InstallAware to make their install CDs), and on society (in that most PC users have at one point or another installed an application on their PC using InstallAware--although they might not have been aware of it, as the application developers typically put the application name and brand on the install dialog boxes). "A company, corporation, organization, school, team, religion, group, product, or service is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in secondary sources. Such sources must be reliable, and independent of the subject." - the articles in the Microsoft and Ziff-Davis publications are certainly in-depth, and those organizations are certainly reliable (given their sizes, their distribution, and who owns them...although I could throw Fox News in as a counter-example :-) and independent of InstallAware. "The depth of coverage of the subject by the source must be considered. If the depth of coverage is not substantial, then multiple[2] independent sources should be cited to establish notability." - here, we have BOTH the multiple independent sources, and the amount written in the articles is certainly substantial. "A primary test of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself (or its manufacturer, creator, or vendor) have actually considered the company, corporation, product or service notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial, non-routine works that focus upon it." - Rebecca Rohan is not affiliated with InstallAware in any way. Bob Kelly is not affiliated with InstallAware at all either. The Readers Choice awards: it's possible that Sinan voted for his own product, but the other thousands of Visual Studio Magazine readers who voted are not affiliated with InstallAware :-). Granted, the MSDN Magazine Europe article was written by Sinan, but he was selected to write that article simply because he's one of the giants in this tiny industry, having originally been part of the team that created the InstallShield product, which for a long time was the industry standard--then leaving there to create InstallAware. I can see how that article might not meet this test; but the other two, plus all the awards should meet the test. I think I've covered the important bits of the notability requirements, and I also think I've proven that this company meets those requirements. I'm interested to hear whether you think I'm off base on one or more of these points, or if there's a bit of the notability requirements I've skipped over that I should have addressed. Michael (talk) 00:06, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

03:05:07, 13 January 2016 review of submission by Wfmcdade[edit]

I understand that my article has been rejected because I have not shown clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion. Here is why I submitted the article "Jackson Pyrotechnic Explosion (Chester, PA)":

1. While doing genealogical research, I discovered that a relative (my great great uncle) was one of eight firefighters killed in a fire and explosion in Chester, PA in 1882.

2. Out of curiosity I decided to research how this firefighting disaster compared to others. I found the Wikipedia page "List of the deadliest firefighting disasters in the United States". That page states that "Below is a list of the deadliest firefighter disasters in the United States, in which more than five firefighters died." The fire in Chester, PA in 1882 was not included in the list on that page.

3. I decided to contribute to Wikipedia to add this historical event and correct the omission. I created a Wikipedia account, and edited the page "List of the deadliest...". That edit was accepted.

4. I then decided to write an article regarding this event.

5. I do not understand why this topic is not "...notable and worthy of inclusion...". Since Wikipedia has a page that lists firefighting disasters in which five or more firefighters were killed, and articles on those events, why is this event not notable? Is it worth my time to continue to work on the article or should I just stop?

6. I have also found that there was a "Jackson Pyrotechnic Factory Explosion" in Philadelphia, PA on March 29, 1862 - 20 years prior to this incident. I do not know if the "Jackson" involved in that explosion was the same man who had the factory in Chester, 20 miles away and 20 years later. That is something that I intend to research and add to the article later.

Thanks very much for your help. Wfmcdade (talk) 03:05, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Request on 09:32:56, 13 January 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Robertsan[edit]


Hi all! I tried to create an article, but failed. I have a collection of 120 pages of newspaper- and magazines clippings of printed press articles and about 20 links, responding to the TRIO bienal. Thank you.

Robertsan (talk) 09:32, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

10:57:55, 13 January 2016 review of submission by 195.99.51.43[edit]


I submitted an article (Vlad Max) I added all the references I could find but it keeps getting rejected. I would like to know why?

195.99.51.43 (talk) 10:57, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

@Interplusinter: Hi, and welcome to the Help Desk! The draft was declined because it doesn't show whether Vlad Max is notable. On Wikipedia, notability basically means that a subject has been covered in a variety of reliable, independent sources in significant detail. I took a look through the references, and there are some problems with them:
  • the 15min.lt, lrt.lt and eurovision.tv sources only mention Vlad Max briefly. That is not substantive coverage, so it doesn't help show notability;
  • the YouTube link is by him, but not about him, so it's not really coverage of him;
  • the eurovisionapocalypse source is a blog, which isn't considered a reliable source;
  • wiwibloggs doesn't offer significant coverage (just three quick mentions of his name with no substantive content);
  • Facebook links are not reliable sources as they come from the user themselves; and
  • Wikipedia articles are not considered reliable sources.
In summary, none of the references really helps show why Vlad Max is notable. Coverage from different sources would be needed, and it should be substantial and in-depth in nature. Thanks, /wiae ★ /tlk 00:24, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

14:46:15, 13 January 2016 review of draft by Gronk Oz[edit]


Greetings, Help Desk. I am asking this on behalf of Balquhidder2013, who has created Draft:Feargus Hetherington. Sorry if I am just too dumb to figure it out - please feel free to just point me to the instructions if there are some.

I am not an AfC reviewer, but the article looks in pretty good shape to me - not perfect yet, but better than many.

However, the problem is that neither of us knows how to submit this draft for an AfC review. My understanding is that's the next step. The instructions all explain the process by going through the Article wizard - but nothing about how to progress the article from Draft space if it did not go through the Wizard initially.

Any suggestions or pointers gratefully accepted!

Gronk Oz (talk) 14:46, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

@Gronk Oz and Balquhidder2013: Hi, nice to see you here! I've gone ahead and submitted Draft:Feargus Hetherington for review. One easy way to submit a draft is to add {{subst:submit}} to the draft. You'll know you've done it correctly when the yellow "Review waiting" box appears on the draft.
Gronk Oz, if you would ever like to submit a draft on behalf of someone else in the future, then you can use the AfC helper script to do so. (Otherwise, if you just add {{subst:submit}} to a draft on behalf of someone else, any resulting feedback will be sent to your user talk page, and not the intended author's talk page.) Once you have the script installed, just select More > Review (AFCH) > Submit (it's the big blue button) > Someone else, and then put in their username. Thanks, /wiae ★ /tlk 14:57, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Smile.gifBrilliant - thank you! I will add that to my "cheat notes" because I'm sure it will come in handy again later.
Oh, and RESPECT for the little tribute you put in your signature. Indeed, the stars look very different today. --Gronk Oz (talk) 15:01, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

16:45:10, 13 January 2016 review of submission by WillySchmidtHild[edit]


WillySchmidtHild (talk) 16:45, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

I am currently working on this entry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jochen_H.H._Ehrich Someone for references.

Are my added references okay by now, or do I need more or other references?

best, Wilhelm S.

17:55:46, 13 January 2016 review of submission by Chishtiyasufi[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Aale_Ahmed_Shah , Page Name Aale Ahmed Shah

Somehow i have deleted the Submit now buton from draft can anyone help thanking you Chishtiyasufi (talk) 17:55, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

@Chishtiyasufi: I have restored some of the old comments from previous reviewers. You should now see the blue Submit button. However, before resubmitting I would strongly suggest searching for references that discuss Aale Ahmed Shah in significant detail. None of the references in the draft are really helpful to shoe notability, since they either just mention him very briefly, or are not from reliable sources. Take a look at the comments on the draft for some more helpful feedback about the draft. Thanks, /wiae ★ /tlk 00:13, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

18:46:25, 13 January 2016 review of submission by UsaKE[edit]


USA AE 18:46, 13 January 2016 (UTC) Why was my page "the end of the world 2016" deleted?! I spent a lot of time and effort on that article, while you think it is okay to just go ahead and delete it!

@UsaKE: Hello, and welcome to the Help Desk. It appears that the page was deleted because its subject duplicated an existing article: Formation and evolution of the Solar System#Future. Any well-referenced content can be added to the existing article. Thanks, /wiae ★ /tlk 00:06, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


January 14[edit]

00:00:12, 14 January 2016 review of submission by Jon Ingram 33[edit]


My draft page "David John Edward Ingram" has been declined by Robert McLenon, I would be grateful to know the reason please...

Jon Ingram 33 (talk) 00:00, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

The reason is explained in the pink box at the top of the draft, and in the message on your user talk page. The words in blue in those messages are wikilinks to pages which give you more information. The reviewer also gave a comment, immediately below the pink box on the draft, to explain what you need to do. --David Biddulph (talk) 01:05, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Request on 04:00:00, 14 January 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Cldsk[edit]


Hello, I have the page Robert Hanley approved, and we recently added a headshot photo. The actor sent in the below email to the permissions email for the Creative Commons License waiver, and got the response (also below). A few days later, though, the photo was removed, with no explanation as why. Can someone let me know why that would be the case and how we can get a photo approved? He owns the copyright of the photo (not the photographer) and sent in the license permission - all of this was what was outlined in the adding photo wiki, so I am unsure what I did wrong.

Many thanks!


I hereby affirm that I, Robert Hanley, the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of both the work depicted and the media as shown here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanley

I agree to publish the above-mentioned content under the following free license: Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International.

I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work, even in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.

I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.

I am aware that the copyright holder always retains ownership of the copyright as well as the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by the copyright holder.

I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

Robert Hanley Copyright Holder 12/22/2015



Dear Robert Hanley,

Thank you for your email. This is an automatically generated response to inform you that your message has been received. Because all emails are handled by volunteers, it may take some time for us to reply. We kindly ask for your patience and understanding as we try our best to reply as quickly as possible. If your article or file has been deleted in the mean time, please don't worry. Any administrator can restore these later.

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Thank you for your help! Chris Cldsk (talk) 04:00, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Cldsk (talk) 04:00, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

07:36:38, 14 January 2016 review of submission by Jon Ingram 33[edit]

Robert McClenon reviewed my article on my father, who was well known in his academic field of physics particularly in the 60s. He then turned to university administration the peak of his achievements was becoming the Vice-Chancellor (the position of Chancellor is nominal) of the University of Kent (South East England) a university which began in the 60s and has a very substantial academic achievement record. I set out the various bodies that he was involved in and gave a link to the Wikipedia entry for the New Years Honours list (1991) which shows that he was awarded the CBE (Commander of the British Empire) this honour sounds old fashioned and irrelevant but in fact it is one of the highest official recognitions granted by the Queen. It was granted for my father's service to education. In my opinion, and that of many in this country, that fully satisfies any requirement of notability. But Robert McClenon seems not to agree. I would be grateful to know how, if possible, I could satisfy Wikipedia's notability concerns. I also note that there was a concern that the article was written by his son. If it assists I am a Barrister who would be disbarred if I deliberately tried to publish anything dishonest! I can be found at www.5sah.co.uk under members (Jonathan Ingram) Jon Ingram 33 (talk) 07:36, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Jon Ingram 33, the decline by Robert McClenon is really a matter of technicality, I'm quite sure he's not implying anything about your bona fides. The "Connected contributor" disclaimer is also just a temporary measure, until a neutral editor has had the time to check that the language in the article is fair and neutral and that no significant published adverse information has been left out. It can be very difficult for writers that are close to their subject to avoid some adjectives, so that just needs to be checked. I will now format the references correctly, which IMHO will resolve the reason why it was initially declined. I will also sort the content into sections. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:15, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
You forgot to tell us what the draft is; presumably it is Draft:David John Edward Ingram? In which case you presumably didn't read what Robert said. He didn't say that your father didn't satisfy the notability requirements. The first sentence of the feedback box says "This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability.", which is an understatement as the draft doesn't include any references. Robert gave you very useful advice in a comment, the first sentence of which says "Change external links in article body to properly formatted references.". Both the pink feedback box and the comment include words in blue to indicate that they are wikilinks to relevant help pages, which I would recommend that you read. - David Biddulph (talk) 08:43, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
I now see that you had already asked a similar question at #00:00:12, 14 January 2016 review of submission by Jon Ingram 33 above. - David Biddulph (talk) 08:47, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
I have done some of the formatting fixes. The main outstanding problem is the lack of sources. So far all we really have is references for his books. The reference for Prof. Zeppler doesn't mention Ingram at all and the references for two of his siblings don't actually evidence the relationship, it only really proves the existence of people who have those names. There is also a quote from The Times which is also unreferenced. His academic career also has no sources at all, and the CBE should be referenced to either the original gazette announcement or a news article about it. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:00, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

10:30:23, 14 January 2016 review of submission by Emeb[edit]


I manually added links to the Lookeen page in other languages at the bottom of the page, but I think there must be an easier "cleaner" way of doing this. Any ideas? I think I used the the old way. Thanks! Emeb (talk) 10:30, 14 January 2016 (UTC) Emeb (talk) 10:30, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

@Emeb I removed the links, such links are handled in WikiData, ut more importantly we never link drafts like this, only articles in mainspace. The links can be added to WikiData only after the draft has been accepted. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:27, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
@Roger (Dodger67) Thanks for clarifying. I wasn't sure if I did it correctly or not. The more you know...Emeb (talk) 10:08, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

14:15:31, 14 January 2016 review of draft by 87.81.237.158[edit]


I cannot upload any photograph in order to enrich the article.87.81.237.158 (talk) 14:15, 14 January 2016 (UTC)Guido Ratti

87.81.237.158 (talk) 14:15, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

14:17:07, 14 January 2016 review of submission by Cbradley098[edit]


Cbradley098 (talk) 14:17, 14 January 2016 (UTC) why was is declined?

@Cbradley098: If you are referring to User:Cbradley098/sandbox, then the draft was declined because it was an editing test. It's fine to use your sandbox to test Wikipedia markup and syntax, but you don't need to submit those editing tests for review. The Articles for Creation process reviews drafts that are destined for the main article space. Thanks, /wiae ★ /tlk 14:21, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

14:19:40, 14 January 2016 review of submission by 182.77.69.241[edit]


respected sir, i have started a campain for awareness for nature by taking people to unspolied places in sagar zone,this is not done before, as this iniciative is novel in its approach i dont have any refences for this as this gruop is very new, how can i give refence and third person refence when my iniciative is so novel that it is not done earlier,,, i request you to accept my page for upload, i will edit new refences and upload pictures,you can check our gruop events on face book /sagar trekekrs and adventure ..

Hello, and welcome to the Help Desk! Unfortunately, if the campaign is very new and it has not been discussed in many references, then it is not ready for its own Wikipedia article just yet. Articles about organizations like yours need significant, in-depth coverage from a variety of reliable sources in order to be suitable for acceptance. Facebook is generally not a reliable source, and the group's Facebook page is too closely connected to the organization itself to be an independent source.
Perhaps if the campaign receives media coverage in the future, that would be a more appropriate time to try resubmitting. I'll also note that you should be aware of Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy, as editing an article about something you are affiliated with may lead to a conflict of interest, which is discouraged on Wikipedia. Thanks! /wiae ★ /tlk 21:42, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

18:26:48, 14 January 2016 review of submission by Np2393[edit]


Hello, I"m having a hard time actually inserting the footnotes, is it okay if someone who is more experienced simply copies the references at the bottom of my article and inserts the footnotes in for me? I tried several times, but I ended up deleting some crucial info. If someone could please do that for me, I'd highly appreciate it! Np2393 (talk) 18:26, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

21:37:53, 14 January 2016 review of submission by HopeChristina[edit]


My page on Prevent Human Trafficking was declined, and I wanted to know why. Thank you!

Preventhumantrafficking (talk) 21:37, 14 January 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HopeChristina (talk • contribs)

Hello @HopeChristina:, did you read the comment at the top of your draft which the reviewer left you? The main problem is you're citing the organization talking about itself, but what we require is other people talking about the organization.
If a person, company, org, or whatever says on their own page that they're the best thing in the world, that doesn't really matter much because that's just their own opinion of themselves, right? But if, say, the Washington Post says "John Smith is the world's most accomplished violinist", then that's probably a more objective opinion endorsed by an expert journalist, editors at the Post, and something they expect their readership will find credible.
So best advice, don't at all bother quoting PHT about itself, or linking to its YouTube videos or "About Us!" page. None of that is objectively credible since an organization can't be objective about itself. Instead, check on Google for books, newspapers, etc. that discuss this group (under its present or current name) and critically examine its actions, impacts, significance, etc. We need to see that outside experts have found this group to be something they expect readers would be interested in. We can expect the group finds itself interesting, but we only need an article if other people can be expected to find it interesting, and the best way to prove that is to show that uninvolved people have found it something worth examining and documenting. MatthewVanitas (talk) 23:10, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

January 15[edit]

12:56:44, 15 January 2016 review of submission by Chandansqlexpert[edit]


Dear Sir

our article was for a school and is declined even its article is available in newspaper(Dainik Jagaran Newspaper) and is widely read by local people here in India in Hindi language. Our School is definitely notable by the people and its visibility/notability has been identified in Indian newspaper also. From my point of view any school is notable and is for public , can you please help me on this ? Thanks

Chandansqlexpert (talk) 12:56, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

13:49:54, 15 January 2016 review of submission by Gullu123[edit]


Gullu123 (talk) 13:49, 15 January 2016 (UTC) Pl let me know the reason for rejection & what improvement require to get approved.

@Gullu123: Hello, and welcome to the Help Desk. It seems that your draft, Draft:Acharya Usha Ranjan Mukherjee, has been deleted due to inactivity. If you would like to have the draft restored so you can continue to work on it, please follow the procedure listed at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion/G13. Thanks! /wiae ★ /tlk 13:53, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

14:42:59, 15 January 2016 review of submission by Penslips[edit]


I've been working on my article since last year: Dean Faulkner Wells - who is the niece of William Faulkner. I've submitted it twice, but to my surprise it was declined due to "notability". For the past 6 months I've been doing research off-line in order to locate further materials to add to my article. Last week I received an email that my article was deleted - but this is unclear to me. Upon reviewing my account, the version I last worked on was still available - and I was just able to add two more, hopefully noteworthy, lines. I just resubmitted the article for review. After submitting I saw a second note sent to me stating that I am not allowed to work in my draft any longer: Dean Faulkner Wells (2). Why? Can someone please help.

Also, I do not know what else I can do to get this article published. I've certainly seen articles on Wiki with much less and yet they are published. Dean Faulkner Wells was notable as an editor and author. Even though she has been deceased for a long time now, I was able to retrieve what I thought was a good amount of references in order for the article to be approved. I do not know where to go from here. I am at a complete loss. Any assistance would be GREATLY appreciated.

Penslips (talk) 14:42, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

17:04:12, 15 January 2016 review of submission by Windeditor00999[edit]

Part of the reason why the most recent submission got declined, according to the reviewer this time, is that references in non-English languages were used. As I was looking for assistance from the previous reviewer, I stated that since most of the company's services are based in China, there may not be as much media coverage in English. And he or she approved of me using non-English references. I'm very confused about the sources I am supposed to use in the article, so I appreciate that if someone can give me a detailed explanation. Also, as I was referencing to other companies that do similar business as we do. I noticed that Goldwind's page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwind only listed one third-party source, and its page has been approved. If possible, could you tell me what our page is missing in comparison to Goldwind's? Thank you.

Windeditor00999 (talk) 17:04, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

17:18:54, 15 January 2016 review of submission by Jesus Rey-Joly[edit]

Hi, User:Jesus Rey-Joly. I just had a look at the draft. I clicked through on some of the references and there are some problems. If you haven't already done so, go read wp:rs which is the page about "reliable sources." You've used some sources that don't meet the criteria there. For example, the svrproducciones source is a sales site, and that is not a reliable source. I know that you were intending to link to proof that the album exists, but in this case it's best not. The "list of students by teacher" and the Zoominfo entry also should be removed. If you would like, I could go through and edit out the sources that shouldnt' be there, then we could see where the gaps are. I think we can make this work. LaMona (talk) 16:45, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi, LaMona, I have deleted the references you mentioned and I'll be willing to do any more amendments as required. Please tell me if the draft still requires something and I'll be glad to comply.

Jesus Rey-Joly (talk) 17:18, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

18:03:40, 15 January 2016 review of submission by Cgelineli[edit]

Hi, Is there a way to see all my own questions posted in the help desk? I had asked a question before and I can't find it. Is there a way to sort to see all your own questions and answers? Thanks Cgelineli (talk)cgelineli

Cgelineli (talk) 18:03, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

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