I am nominating this article for A-Class review because both User:Jarry1250 and myself have expanded the article by twenty times, its been through a peer review and we now believe its A class standard Jim Sweeney (talk) 11:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Weak support Glanced over article, seems A-class. I may change to oppose, neutral, or support, after thorough reading and critiquing. mynameincOttoman projectReview me 13:52, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Ref's after punctuation.
Watch over-linking: many terms are linked several times or more throughout the article.
It needs a copy-edit. While I've done what I could, there are still places that need someone very good at copy-editing to clean up the prose; it sounds really unprofessional in many places now.
The biggest issue is the prose. While I am going away for a couple weeks and may not be able to check in and change to support, if a copy edit is done by someone very good at it who can improve the prose and the other minor issues I mentioned above are fixed, I can be considered to be in support. – JoeN 15:42, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I agree in part about the prose; I don't think it's brilliant, but "really unprofessional in many places" seems a little harsh. (I would say that though, I wrote ~half of it.) I'll try to get someone less inherently biased to have a look over it, of course. I couldn't find any refs before punctuation, I'm afraid. Maybe someone fixed them before I looked. Likewise with overlinking, I've had a look and while the same article is linked more than once, I can't find any instances when it wouldn't be awkward to backtrack to find the link (in the lead, for example). I'll go work on the prose some more now. - Jarry1250(t, c) 16:06, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Its an educational website featuring on line biographies, primarily from the history of the USA and Britain the author is John Simkin (BA, MA, MPhil) a member of the European History E-Learning Project (E-Help), which aims to encourage and improve use of ICT and the internet in classrooms across the continent.
While I'm not convinced that this is the best thing to be citing information to, it seems reliable. —Ed(Talk • Contribs) 21:44, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
removed ref - dont think its needs as there wiki links
There seems to be a lot of internet searching going on here. Perhaps the same effect, and much more reliable sources, could be found by visiting a library...? What I mean is, I can't believe that something like "German zeppelins bombed towns on the east coast, starting on 19 January 1915 with Great Yarmouth." cannot be found in a book. Yes, http://www.learningcurve.gov.uk/snapshots/snapshot32/snapshot32.htm is technically reliable (hence no objection above), but this will have to be replaced prior to any FAC, as it now requires that claims be verifiable against high-quality reliable sources. —Ed(Talk • Contribs) 04:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
I'll no doubt re-reference the Zeppelin thing to Beckett (most things are in his book). 70% of citations refer to offline sources now (after Jim made some edits). I'm not sure what to make of the Learning Curve; for the benefit of anyone reading this not familiar with the site, it's run by the National Archives, the UK government's official archive (and a government department in fact). Their responsibility is maintaining the archives of more than a thousand years of heritage here in the UK. On the other hand, whilst they have access to a far greater number of primary sources than any singe person, they do not attribute their learning material to any one particular author, and do not state any editorial guidelines. So it's a toss up really. - Jarry1250(t, c) 09:54, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Naturally. Is there a list identifying the top band of reliable sources? Criteria for being "high-quality"? I'd be interested to read it; the only mentions in that informative Signpost article of "high-quality" were for referencing any contentious claims about living people with them, which to my mind gives a slightly different impression of what is required. Perhaps you ought reply on my talk page to avoid cluttering this review? Cheers, - Jarry1250(t, c) 09:11, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments Some concerns, mostly from a MOS standpoint:
The article title uses "World War I", the infobox image caption uses "World War One", another image caption uses "WWI"...consistency, please.
The lead contains a link to Masterman which, not surprisingly, is a set index page. I presume the intended target is Charles Masterman.
Image captions need some cleanup: ending punctuation should not be used when the caption consists only of a nominal group, however extended it may be.
Quotations should not be italicized. Ship names should be italicized (HMS Audacious, RMS Olympic) as should publication names (The War Illustrated).
I see both unspaced emdashes and spaced endashes; while these are both acceptable forms per MOS, please pick one for consistency within the article.
Nonbreaking spaces should be used between values and units of measure (1.4 million).
Capitalization needs some attention. Why do we have "Prime minister" even when used as a title, yet "World War I Recruiting poster", "Women and the Suffragette movement", "Ration books", etc? Other iffy uses: Government, Navy, Army.
Quite a few publications listed in References are not cited anywhere (Bromley, HMSO, Morris, Murie, Pigou, The War Office). Have we lost some citations?
Bromley, Morris, Murie and Pigou removed can only think left in by error as the article evolvd
In general, this is in fairly good shape, but it would benefit from a copyedit. Maralia (talk) 04:25, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
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