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Proposals, November 2010[edit]

Please check how many articles qualify for a stub type before proposing it.

If (after approval) you create a stub type, please be sure to add it to the list of stub types. This page will be archived in its entirety once all discussions have been closed; there is no need to move them to another page.

NEW PROPOSALS[edit]

Category:Parornix stubs[edit]

Category:Canadian hospital stubs Speedy creation: S1 and S2[edit]

{{Guinea-writer-stub}}[edit]

I think this can be used well..♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:31, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Support, naturally. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:06, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Category:American Anglican church stubs[edit]

Upmerged template {{US-anglican-church-stub}} has 122 transclusions. I think it's time to give them their own category. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:55, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Polish railway station stubs[edit]

Support, in case it was not clear. Ng.j (talk) 22:21, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Holocaust stubs[edit]

Both Category:World War II stubs and Category:Jewish history stubs are moving towards the oversized area (both have over 600 stubs). A specific {{Holocaust-stub}} would, IMO, be a good move, as it would almost certainly be used on enough stubs for a subcategory. As such, I'd like to propose the template, plus Category:Holocaust stubs iff it reaches the 60-stub mark. BTW, I've left a heads-up about this proposal at WP:JH and WP:WWII. Grutness...wha? 08:20, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Category:Gracillariidae stubs split[edit]

{{Espionage-stub}}[edit]

  • Certainly looks viable and would probably be an idea to have an {{Espionage-bio-stub}} as well as I have seen quite a few spies. (Hint for future when using catscan to find stubs set the links to 0 otherwise you can end up with some quite large articles that just have no links deep politics shows up on both lists despite being over 5000 bytes in size.) Waacstats (talk) 09:59, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Ah, thanks, I'll keep that in mind for the future. - The Bushranger Return fireFlank speed

Category:Ancient Roman politician stubs[edit]

{{AncientRome-politician-stub}} is used on 143 articles any objections? Waacstats (talk) 21:58, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Support - none from this quarter. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:38, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Poland stubs[edit]

Some viable templates/cats I found on established lines:

SeveroTC 19:38, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Support all, to the point where I thought we already had the first 2. Waacstats (talk) 21:49, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:38, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Support all Even with only 43, it creates manageable stub categories, rather than pots of miscellany. --Kleopatra (talk) 19:35, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Category:Cameraria stubs[edit]

{{Sport-documentary-film-stub}}[edit]

While starting to sort the recent split of Documentary film stubs, I'm noticing quite a few sports documentaries - probably enough for a separate category, and certainly enough for a template. I'd like to propose a template, and a category as well if it looks like there's going to be 60 of them. Grutness...wha? 22:23, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Category:South African military personnel stubs[edit]

{{WashingtonDC-politician-stub}}[edit]

Having looked at the proposal for splits of state politicians below I noticed we didn't even have a template for Washington DC politicians, I know this is politically different to the States but catscan seems to suggest that a template at least worth while and maybe with a good sort we can get Category:Washington DC politician stubs created at 60+ articles. Waacstats (talk) 10:28, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

  • Support template, absolutely. Category ought to be viable (edit: a quick scan of related articles indicates to me that it probably will pass muster), support if so. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:47, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Support I saw that that was missing too, I didn't get around to checking viablity. ~Gosox(55)(55) 00:09, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Split of Category:Chinese people stubs[edit]

Split of Category:Russian football midfielder, 1980s births stubs[edit]

Splits of Category:Gracillarioidea stubs[edit]

Many splits of Category:American politician stubs[edit]

Here is a stab at a number of splits of American politician stubs. All are viable unless noted, I have included a catscan link for your convenience. If approved, I will probably start on these on Thanksgiving weekend, and assistance will be greatly appreciated. ~Gosox(55)(55) 17:25, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Split of Category:California politician stubs[edit]

~Gosox(55)(55) 17:08, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Split of Category:Virginia politician stubs[edit]

~Gosox(55)(55) 16:46, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Split of Category:New York politician stubs[edit]

~Gosox(55)(55) 16:25, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Split of Category:Massachusetts politician stubs[edit]

~Gosox(55)(55) 17:52, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Update: A full category for California state senator stubs should be viable, as I've just tagged a handful of articles in the main category as stubs. (They fit - they just weren't tagged as such.) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:58, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Changed MARep to MARepresentative per PARepresentative

Category:Ancient Dacia stubs create[edit]

Category:Synapsid stubs split[edit]

Category:Spanish religious biography stubs/{{Spain-reli-bio-stub}}[edit]

Category:Prehistoric rodent stubs/template:paleo-rodent-stub[edit]

Category:Prehistoric marsupial stubs/Template:paleo-marsupial-stub[edit]

Category:British magazine stubs split[edit]

further split of Category:American novelist, 20th century birth stubs[edit]

Category:Moth stubs split[edit]

Category:Asian diplomat stubs[edit]

split of Category:European nobility stubs[edit]

Split of Category:United States Virgin Islands geography stubs[edit]

Category:Mycobacteria stubs[edit]

split of Category:Polish people stubs[edit]

Split of Category:Documentary film stubs[edit]

This needs doing - it contains 1312 stubs. And, following on from the oddly-named "Category:Documentary films about music stubs" (whose idea was that? These aren't films about music stubs, they're about music!), splitting by subject seems the most logical way. I'd like to propose the following templates, with categories for any which pass 60:

If those figures are accurate, it should lower the parent considerably - probably still too big, but 900's better than 1300. I'd be willing to bet that the numbers in brackets (the catscan counts for possible numbers) are low, as well. I don't believe the 32 value for nature to start with - on a quick glance at the stub cat I'd say there are considerably more than that. Grutness...wha? 04:53, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea where that category namecame from it used to be "music documentary film stubs" or something similar. any way Support the split. Waacstats (talk) 12:37, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
I've put it up for renaming... but Waacstats, your memory seems to be slipping! Grutness...wha? 09:27, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:20, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Support all. A ridiculously large and unusable stub category. I might be able to expand some when the stubs templates are done and put on the categories. I'll watch list.
On a side note, I hate the abbreviated stub templates "Poli-documentary-film-stub" because I can never remember them. I would prefer "Political-documentary-film-stub," "History-documentary-film-stub." --Kleopatra (talk) 22:22, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Redirects from those names would be possible, but all other politics- and history-related stub templates use those abbreviations, so they make sense for the primary names. Grutness...wha? 23:14, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Ok. If it's already established, it would be easier that way. I still like to be able to just guess the stub category. Thanks for the info. --Kleopatra (talk) 23:20, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment Would a better solution be breaking them down by decade, as per the French, Japanese, Italian, British, etc film stubs and also the different genres (drama, comedy, horror, etc)? Lugnuts (talk) 10:06, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
    • Possibly in addition, but not instead of. Categories should have utility for readers and editors. Breaking down documentaries by decade does not provide significant utility for either editors or readers in the way that categorizing by genre does. Documentaries on are or history may have broad groups of followers, for example--potential editors in that category. --Kleopatra (talk) 16:23, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
      • That was pretty much my thought too - and given that there's already one by-genre child it makes sense to continue using this method as the primary split. Grutness...wha? 22:12, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
  • I'm probably one of the more active editors in documentaries by topic. I just became aware of this discussion and I think it's all great. Except that, from what I can see, "Art" documentary stubs should probably be renamed to "Arts," to match the parent Category:Documentary films about the arts. Art may be understood as visual arts only, and for what you're using it for here, the more inclusive arts would seem to be the way to go. (I do seem to be recall this point being briefly raised at the time the Docs by topic category underwent an expansion, but I can't find the diff). Shawn in Montreal (talk) 02:42, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
    • That makes some sense - I'll take the category over to WP:SFD for possible renaming. Grutness...wha? 04:25, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Category:College football coaches first appointed in the 2010s stubs[edit]

Asking for a "retroactive speedy" on this one. I did not know the procedure and created the category. There are multiple articles already covered by "Category:College football coaches first appointed in the XXXXs stubs" categories, by decade from 1890 to 2000. Will follow procedure in the future now that I know it (which should be in about 10 years).--Paul McDonald (talk) 20:55, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Category:Caroline County, Virginia geography stubs[edit]

Category:Odd-toed ungulate stubs and Category:Prehistoric odd-toed ungulate stubs[edit]

Split of Category:Primate stubs[edit]

Category:European magazine stubs split[edit]

{{Italy-bishop-stub}}[edit]

Category:British magazine stubs[edit]

Category:Plasmodium stubs[edit]

Category:Japanese academic biography stubs[edit]

Category:Norwegian diplomat stubs[edit]

Category:Norwegian religious biography stubs[edit]

Category:French bishop stubs[edit]