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July 7 (AfD, CfD, TfD, MfD)

Nevergrind[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG/WP:WEB and WP:V: non-notable browser game with no references based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. The current sources are all primary (the official website and an interview without commentary), unreliable (Indie Game Mag and the previously-mentioned Cliqist, neither of which have any reputation as reliable sources), crowd-funded and user-submitted (IndieDB and Kickstarter), and portal sites (Crazy Games and Kongregate). I am unable to find any sources vetted by WikiProject Video games and searches using both the WPVG reliable and situational custom Google searches returned "No Results". A normal Google search finds the typical social media, forums, and spam sites. Note that the article creator, User:Maelfyn, is the self-described "developer of Nevergrind and founder of Neverworks Games". (I have also warned him about WP:COI. If the article survives AfD, it will have to be rewritten to remove POV and spammy language.) Ironically, the game looks fun—probably something I'd play if I weren't elbow deep in several other games—but that isn't currently part of our notability requirements. Woodroar (talk) 00:20, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

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  • Delete. Article topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) It had no meaningful hits in a video game reliable sources custom Google search. There are no worthwhile redirect targets. Please me you find more (non-English and offline) sources. – czar 01:46, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete as per Woodroar. I couldn't find any additional sources, and certainly not any that were reliable and third-party. It's worth noting that Indie Game Mag's review lists at the bottom a call for developers to submit their games for possible feature, meaning that their process of selecting games to review is not particularly selective. Either way, a single review from a non-mainstream site does not establish notability. ~ RobTalk 01:47, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
Agreed, it's not a great source at all. User:Czar actually started a discussion about IGM over a year ago with some solid arguments against. Woodroar (talk) 02:14, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
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  • Delete. I can't find anything to show that this game is ultimately notable enough for an article. It looks like it exists... and that's about it. If I thought that there would be a chance of this surviving AfD I'd re-write it, but I can't find anything that would show notability. I don't see where any of the typical gaming RS outlets have given this any media attention - not even a routine notification that the game is in production or that they held a Kickstarter campaign. (Although it's not for lack of trying - the game's creator does seem to be trying hard to drum up interest.) Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 04:48, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete. Please delete this article. Sorry for wasting your time. Thank you. Maelfyn (talk) 12:04, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
  • As a note to others who may be inclined to nominate for speedy deletion under G7, this is probably not eligible because an IP editor made substantial edits to the article. ~ RobTalk 13:42, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

July 6 (AfD, CfD, TfD, MfD)

Dunnet (video game)[edit]

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Article topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) It had no meaningful hits in a Google Books or video game reliable sources custom Google search. Best is that some technical books mention in a single sentence that it's a game built into another piece of software. It is not covered in any more depth by reliable sources. I'd entertain a redirect to GNU Emacs#Extensibility, where it is mentioned by name. I'd also entertain removing it from that article (where I do not think it adds to the topic) and deleting it altogether. Please ping me you find non-English and offline sources. – czar 13:42, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Keep game is a significant early exposition of the Arpanet — Preceding unsigned comment added by OMPIRE (talkcontribs) 13:46, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Have any reliable, secondary sources to back that up? – czar 16:41, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Keep - (I am the author of the game - originally in 1983, so weigh that however you want). It is not only part of Emacs(and was not originally written as part of EMACS, but later adapted). Here is a web version: coolwanglu.github.io/dunnet.js/ . Some references (which may or may not be reliable under your definition - I am not an expert at such things), include several issues of Mac Addict Magazine, several issues of Mac World magazine, and dozens of other hard-print magazine articles. I can cite references if they are worthwhile, but I will wait to see your response as to whether or not they are reliable. Its integration into Emacs was an event of note, but does not define the game. I originally posted its source code in the '80s to USENET. It was originally written in MACLisp. Not that it means anything, but I have been getting fan mail and e-mail asking questions about the game every day since the early '90s. I am too humble to state it as OMPIRE did, but I've been told by many others that it is a piece of history. As a side effect of its (non-exclusive) integration into Emacs, it's been claimed that it is the game installed on more computer than any game in the world other than Solitaire. This is due to the fact that most web servers and all Mac computers install it by default. My signature (with the tildes) doesn't seem to work right (maybe you can tell me how to fix it?) I'm known on here as both "Ron Schnell" and "aviators99". I will now type the tildes: Ron Schnell 00:26, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
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July 5 (AfD, CfD, TfD, MfD)

Gon' E-Choo! (video game)[edit]

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Unable to establish notability. Game lacks significant coverage from reliable secondary sources. The1337gamer (talk) 22:39, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

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What more sources do you think are needed? Examples? Jsaiya (talk) 23:00, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

The problem at the moment is establishing notability. That source, along with the one on the article aren't enough to satisfy WP:GNG. It would be more appropriate for you to improve the article in the Draft namespace in case this is an example of WP:TOOSOON. Then it can be reviewed and submitted later. --The1337gamer (talk) 23:47, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
That Italian site looks like a blog, which doesn't count as a reliable source. We should only revisit this once the game is covered by vetted video game sources. – czar 00:04, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
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  • Delete: If even by the horribly loose standards of VG/RS there aren't any qualifying sources, this is at *least* a TOOSOON. Fails the GNG. Nha Trang Allons! 11:25, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. –323MU (talk) 21:13, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Air (1977 video game)[edit]

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Not notable, or even verifiable. For a "major" title with lasting influence, I'm having an extremely difficult time finding a single reliable source. While this claims that the game is lost, I am unable to verify that this has ever existed. The only source I have thus far been able to find is this, which is hardly confirmation of its existence. With the lack of information (a "major" title would surely have something out there on the internet), I can only conclude that either this game vanished without trace long ago, or it's a hoax. Adam9007 (talk) 00:23, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

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  • Redirect to Kelton Flinn. It looks like this article had a reference at one point that was deleted here. I'm unsure why. In any event, the reference (link to actual page of book can be found here). At a minimum, the article doesn't appear to be a hoax. That said, I don't think there's any evidence it passes muster as notable, and given that it's already mentioned in our article on the game's creator, I think we should redirect there. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 02:51, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
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  • Redirect per Ginseng's logic. (Wish I read their post before independently confirming the page's one citation myself...) Redirects to the company or to Air Warrior‍‍ '​‍s development would also suffice, but it perhaps belongs most in Flinn's history. There does not appear to be much other coverage on the subject, and it can always spin out summary style if need be. Please ping me you find more (non-English and offline) sources. – czar 18:01, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

July 4 (AfD, CfD, TfD, MfD)

Neko Atsume[edit]

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Barely translated, and little to indicate notability Jac16888 Talk 08:53, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Weak keep but strong WP:TNT before anything for the horrid machine-translation-like prose. The app attracted some attention from Japanese press as a fad sort of like Flappy Bird did. 野狼院ひさし u/t/c 10:56, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

No relevance to any other entry or current need or topic of interest. Please delete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amaedel (talkcontribs) 16:13, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

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  • Keep I have added some sources, I agree that a rewrite may be appropriate. Artw (talk) 13:33, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep Substantial coverage in English and Japanese, easily to indicate notability, and some improvements have been made already. —innotata 06:38, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Liberation 71[edit]

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WP:N, the article does not have any reliable source to demonstrate notability. AdrianGamer (talk) 09:47, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

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  • Keep: As the article itself lists more than 5 different news agencies reports on it, there cannot be any doubt to its notability! – Nahiyan8 (talk | contribs) 18:33, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep: The article has multiple independent reliable sources. Original reason for nomination is invalid.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 01:12, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep The article is well sourced. Ibrahim Husain Meraj (talk) 04:32, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Lucas the Game[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Unable to find significant coverage from reliable secondary sources. The1337gamer (talk) 22:26, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

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  • Delete for now and draft/userfy if anyone wants but for a game that was released not even a week ago, searches found nothing to suggest the slightest good third-party coverage. SwisterTwister talk 04:50, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

July 2 (AfD, CfD, TfD, MfD)

Jasmine (song)[edit]

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No indication of notability. Mentioned on a handful of websites, can't even be found on the web. No indication of sales success, awards, etc. Non-notable. Bueller 007 (talk) 04:05, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Delete Prima face failure of WP:NSONG, does not register on WP:GNG either. Hasteur (talk) 16:37, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
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July 1 (AfD, CfD, TfD, MfD)

Hex Empires[edit]

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WP:N, not a notable title. No reliable source available to prove notability AdrianGamer (talk) 05:29, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

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List of Demon's Souls characters[edit]

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WP:LISTCRUFT: The list was created just for the sake of having such a list, the content is unverifiable or the underlying concept is non-notable. Also WP:FANCRUFT. No reliable secondary sources covering these characters. No indication of notability or importance outside the scope of the video game article. The1337gamer (talk) 09:10, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

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  • Delete or Redirect - Fails our notability guidelines, content more akin to something that would belong on a Wikia. Sergecross73 msg me 13:04, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
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  • WP:SMERGE to Demon's Souls, which has no section for its characters at present. I'm always confused when people believe that the content of a notable work is somehow unverifiable, which would only be the case if all existing copies were destroyed. Or it rests on a misunderstanding of WP:OR that would forbid us from consulting primary sources ourselves (which we may consult, so long as we are only making "straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge."). Basic descriptions of video game characters can always be sourced to the game itself and its manual(s) (both from the game designer and from third-parties), and also often to reviews that describe the notable game. postdlf (talk) 15:30, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Merge with redirect as suggested. VMS Mosaic (talk) 04:24, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

June 30 (AfD, CfD, TfD, MfD)

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The result was redirect to Ship Simulator. This should've been BOLDLY done by the nom but hey ho all done now. (non-admin closure)Davey2010Talk 00:19, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Ship Simulator Professional[edit]

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Unsourced low-quality content of questionable notability and usefulness, written like a product description and feature list. No lead section. MopSeeker (talk) 23:24, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Redirect - to Ship Simulator or developer VSTEP. Software article of unclear notability, lacking independent references, but the series of games is notable and the developer is borderline.Dialectric (talk) 17:02, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
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  • Redirect to Ship Simulator, which houses the series. Please consider performing easy redirects yourself before coming to AfD. @MopSeeker, if you'll withdraw, I'll redirect it myself. – czar 21:18, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
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Modoka[edit]

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Article topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) It had no meaningful hits in a video game reliable sources custom Google search (as "Modoka", "Modoka Studios", or "Lumodokate Studios". All in-page sources are primary or unreliable. There are no worthwhile redirect targets as none of the games are notable. Please ping me you find more (non-English and offline) sources. – czar 14:10, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

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37Games[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG, WP:NCORP. Outside of press releases this company lacks significant coverage from reliable secondary sources. The1337gamer (talk) 15:22, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

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Weak keep. I'm unable to check the quality of the Chinese-language sources, but I defer to Phil's assessment of them with his experience in the area. This said, I still have no idea what kind of coverage these sources contain (press releases? original reporting? blurbs? full articles?), apart from that I now have links from major outlets. – czar 16:47, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
It clearly asserts notability in the second paragraph ("38th amongst top 100 internet companies in China", "second biggest browser game platform"), though as long as the references fail to load, it's unsubstantiated and nevertheless lacking reliable, secondary coverage. Still good enough for defeating the speedy. – czar 14:27, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
  • don't delete just change two reference source Czar mentioned that are failed to load.I changing them to article of portals of Tencent and Sina, which rank no.2 and no.4 traffic among Chinese websites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gamefant (talkcontribs) 02:03, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
If the company is significant for those rankings, where is the reliable, secondary source coverage? Can you help us find Chinese-language sources? – czar 19:27, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Have you check those two newly added article i mentioned above, which are mainly talking about the ranking and market share. Are they reliable, secondary source coverage? Besides, just find one coverage from Forbes, http://www.forbes.com/sites/russellflannery/2015/05/07/new-online-game-billionaire-clan-emerges-in-china/. Sanqi Interactive Entertainment is official name of the whole group. This name could be found at the bottom of 37.com. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodmanishere (talkcontribs) 04:30, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Being included on that list of top Internet companies doesn't count for much on its own. We're finding mostly press releases or passing mentions (such as inclusion in a list) for this company (at least as "37Games" or "37.com"—we might find more if we use the "Sanqi" name), such that we don't have complete evidence of significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources. (?) We need to have actual non-press release content in order to write a balanced article, otherwise it's better off redirected or deleted. Forbes would be a start, but it's more usable for an article about Sanqi than about 37Games, no? And I'm having trouble establishing whether the short QQ and People.cn short articles are (1) reputable and (2) discuss the company in more than a passing fashion. – czar 13:09, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
"Sanqi" actually is the Chinese pronunciation of 37. – [user talk:goodmanishere] 11:09, 7 July 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodmanishere (talkcontribs)
  • Keep I was intending to close this as delete but after some digging there are a raft of reliable sources out there in Chinese. Pace avoidance of systematic bias, it is notable and should be kept. Note that the Chinese article (now linked) has been tagged for the equivalent to WP:PROMO since December 2014, which means that it too needs better sourcing. I've added Chinese searches for sources so others can get an idea of the coverage out there—also pinging Czar per his request above.  Philg88 talk 06:42, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
@Philg88, thanks for this. I'm not familiar with Chinese-language reliable sources. Which of those hits are reputable, and not just rehashes of press releases? (Or is there a list of such domains somewhere in project space, perhaps something on par with WP:VG/RS?) Could you help with my QQ/People.cn question above? – czar 13:09, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
@Czar: News stories with in depth coverage here from 163.com, and here from Sina Corp. I don't know about RS for video games but there is certainly sufficient coverage in "mainstream" sources. Don't forget, the reliable sources don't need to be cited in the article - they only need to exist. Cheers,  Philg88 talk 15:25, 6 July 2015 (UTC):Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:19, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
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  • Keep There is enough coverage in reliable sources to make this article pass WP:ORG. I found and added a news source in just 5 seconds. I also found coverage in Chinese language, as already pointed by Phil. The subject passes our notability threshold. Jim Carter 13:10, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
@Jim Carter, you added what is unabashedly a press release... Certainly not reliable, independent, or a "news source". Others may exist, but that's exactly why we're searching. – czar 13:35, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Dragon Atlas[edit]

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An article about a not notable video game which does not credibly claim the significance of the game in question. --Anarchyte 11:49, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Delete. 37Games is about to be deleted, so there are no worthwhile redirection targets. – czar 19:21, 4 July 2015 (UTC) Reinstating the redirect opinion—looks like there are enough Chinese-language sources to keep the dev article in some form. – czar 12:57, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails WP:GNG. I would say redirect to 37Games, but I think that fails notability too so I've nominated that for deletion also. --The1337gamer (talk) 15:26, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
It's standard to redirect, then, and if the dev is deleted, all pages that redirect there will be deleted as well. – czar 15:44, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
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Red Crucible[edit]

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Non-notable video game, given references don't prove notability. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 17:21, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:02, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Isolation of the dead[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG; non-notable game. This game is still in the process of funding on Kickstarter, which makes this article a crystal ball at best. Esquivalience t 17:48, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Delete. I wish them well, but right now this just doesn't pass notability guidelines. There just isn't any coverage out there for this game and since this is still in its fundraising stage, there likely isn't anything other than a few play screens and maybe at best a non-playable test stage. If this gets made and gains coverage it can be created, but offhand this is just too soon for an entry. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 04:12, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Zynga#Real-money_gaming. Black Kite (talk) 21:47, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

ZyngaPlusCasino[edit]

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Not notable. It got a little press upon launch in 2013 but since then nothing. Every game that gets a few tech blogs to write about their launch is not worthy of an article. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:46, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Redirect to Zynga#Real-money_gaming as a useful redirect term. Some really shoddy AfD work above! First, notability is not temporary, so if a game once received lots of coverage, enough to write an article or to establish its importance, we don't stop caring because the game goes offline. Second, "simply not notable" is an unsubstantiated argument. Now for the sources:
This is all from a simple video game reliable sources custom Google search. With a little more digging, we could support a small article on Zynga's casino games foray, but for now it can be built in the Zynga article summary style. – czar 15:05, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm fine with the re-direct and if you want to copy over the content to the Zynga article. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:09, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Redirect - Holy shit this AFD looks exactly like the other one literally ... Face-grin.svg, Anyway seems better to redirect than delete. –Davey2010Talk 02:52, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete and redirect to Zynga#Real-money_gaming. Black Kite (talk) 21:49, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

ZyngaPlus Poker[edit]

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Not notable. The game got a little press when it was released but since then nothing and I'm fairly certain it is near-dead. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:42, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Redirect to Zynga#Real-money_gaming as a useful redirect term. Some really shoddy AfD work above! First, notability is not temporary, so if a game once received lots of coverage, enough to write an article or to establish its importance, we don't stop caring because the game goes offline. Do sources exist or not? They do:
This is all from a simple video game reliable sources custom Google search. With a little more digging, we could support a small article on Zynga's casino games foray, but for now it can be built in the Zynga article summary style. A redirect on a major game from a major games company should seem obvious. – czar 15:07, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
I'd be fine with the re-direct and if you like you can just copy over the content to that section of the Zynga article? Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:07, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
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Joe Weller[edit]

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I don't think that 2,000,000 subscribers meet the notability guideline. other youtubers have over 10,000,000 subs and have articles. but not this article. Fazbear7891 (talk) 21:33, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Weak delete. From the video games commentator side, the article topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources (?) with no meaningful hits in a video game reliable sources custom Google search. As a YouTube celebrity, there are a few short articles and several British papers refer to him in passing as a "star" or "celebrity". He caused quite an uproar at a charity event. He appears best known for a viral video about WWE finishing moves and related videos about WWE, FIFA, and being a public nuisance. From the reputable, non-tabloids, though, there isn't much coverage apart from that he made popular videos online. When Weller may have YouTube hits, but we can't feasibly write an article about him until he is covered by secondary, reliable sources—otherwise it's all primary sources, as his WP page currently is. There are no worthwhile redirect targets. Please ping me you find more (non-English and offline) sources. – czar 15:23, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was Delete. --MelanieN (talk) 21:19, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Rememoried[edit]

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No indication of importance, might be WP:TOOSOON for an article. --Anarchyte 07:55, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Delete I found this short Hardcore Gamer coverage, but nothing beyond that. Sam Walton (talk) 08:07, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
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There is not enough coverage to write a dedicated article and there are no worthwhile redirect targets. Please ping me you find more (non-English and offline) sources. – czar 15:10, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Given that this is an old game, recreation of this article would be reasonable if sources were uncovered. Sam Walton (talk) 13:57, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Gapper (video game)[edit]

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No WP:RSs (only Google Books hit just mentions in passing, no news, websites are just legally grey abandonware sites), fails WP:GNG. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:29, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict)This has been added, which is not a legally grey abandonware site, but the primary purpose of slider.com does not appear to be an encyclopedia (rather a search engine), and I cannot find out who their editors, authors, contributors, or sources are. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:39, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

I have since updated the article to include additional references and content about the game, which I believe is of value worth keeping within Wikipedia. The mentioned Google Book hit above is not talking about this game and is not relevant. It was a MS-DOS product created back in 1986 and was a PC game that many people loved. If you look at a simple Google search, you will see any number of hits related to this game: [[1]]. Angrygreenfrogs (talk) 21:36, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

The number of hits on Google does not indicate whether a subject is notable -- books actually do a better job of that. You added one source, which cannot be demonstrated to be reliable. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:39, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

I've cleaned up the article, removed anything that could be called original research, added 5 sources, including one from Mobygames, which is more relevant. Beyond that it'll simply be a personal judgement call as to relevance. Angrygreenfrogs (talk) 21:57, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

The following sources do not meet our reliability standards, and are legally grey abandonware sites: Demu, theisozone, MyAbandonWare. theisozone appears to have plagiarized Mobygames.
Mobygames is not reliable.
You need to provide evidence that Slider is written and edited by qualified individuals. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:16, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

I admit, MobyGames and Slider are the best sources of information about Gapper. If they are unacceptable sources, then I'd be stuck there. The author of the article on MobyGames is original content and was written by this guy: http://www.mobygames.com/user/sheet/userSheetId,49363/ and unfortunately I can't find any information about the author of the article on Slider. Angrygreenfrogs (talk) 14:08, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

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This paper is the full citation of the passing mention in the nom. – czar 15:30, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 11:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Next-Gen Text[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG, no coverage whatsoever. Also possible conflict of interest and advertising. Article author claims to be the developer and copyright holder of the game through the logo image description. The1337gamer (talk) 09:55, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Delete - Software article of unclear notability, lacking independent references. A search turned up no significant WP:RS coverage of this game. Article was created by an SPA as possibly promotional. Also WP:CRYSTAL issues, as this is unreleased.Dialectric (talk) 19:17, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete, no indication of importance and has no references. --Anarchyte 08:30, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete. North America1000 00:13, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Awakening of Heroes[edit]

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non notable game Gaijin42 (talk) 16:22, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Delete - Software (game) article of unclear notability, lacking independent references. A search turned up no significant WP:RS coverage of this game. Article was created by an SPA as possibly promotional. Also WP:CRYSTAL issues, as this is game is still in testing. Dialectric (talk) 19:28, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete – Fails WP:GNG. --The1337gamer (talk) 19:33, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
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Masami Ishikawa[edit]

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Doubtful notability, man with a job The Banner talk 01:32, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Delete - Lack of third party sources covering the subject on specific detail. Sources currently in article don't do this. ;They focus on the product, not the person - the subject here.) Also okay with merge/redirect to some Sega related article. Sergecross73 msg me 02:11, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep - Sorry, but I don't agree with the case presented here. The Polygon piece in the article represents an in-depth interview with Ishikawa (which is actually a book excerpt), as does the other source. Yes, they're focusing on the hardware - but that's because they're interviewing him specifically on those topics, and on his involvement with them. Whilst this may not satisfy the most common interpretations of GNG, I feel it certainly satisfies the spirit of the guideline, and probably the letter of it as well. Factor in the fact that he was head of the development team of major consoles with Sega, and it seems only sensible to have some kind of article. It is also worth noting that Japanese sources are pretty much guaranteed to exist, although I lack the ability to actually search for them myself with any degree of accuracy. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 19:54, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Lukeno94, interviews aren't typically considered secondary coverage though. Masami Ishikawa's words on Masami Ishikawa is considered a first party account. I mean, if there's more/better sources out there to flesh out an article, I could be swayed, but as long as its a few sentences based off of an interview or two, the best care scenario should be a redirect/merge to something Sega related. Sergecross73 msg me 21:05, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
  • I know they're not typically considered secondary coverage, and I will freely admit I'm voting with a liberal interpretation of GNG based on what I feel the spirit of the guideline is. Given that he has been sought out for interviews on the globally significant Mega Drive/Genesis project, and his role in that project, I do believe he justifies an article. I wouldn't be opposed to a redirect being in place if consensus does swing away from keeping this article; outright deletion seems a tad daft. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 21:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Easy redirect to Sega Genesis, where he is mentioned by name and for which he is best known. Article topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) The best hit, the Polygon interview, is not ABOUT him but the Genesis, for which (again) he is best known. There simply isn't enough extant (or easily extant) material such that we can write a full article about the individual. He had no meaningful hits in a video game reliable sources custom Google search and doesn't have a page on jawp that we could scrape either. Please ping me you find more (non-English and offline) sources. – czar 15:35, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete - Agree with Czar and Sergecross73 here. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 19:16, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Sega AM2. The history is preserved, so if anybody wants to mine this for material to merge somewhere, have at it. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:54, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Hisashi Suzuki[edit]

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Doubtful notability, man with a job The Banner talk 01:29, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Delete: Does not pass notability for a biographical subject, but it's possible to selectively merge information to Sega to ensure that the critical nugget is preserved -- that this man oversaw the electro-mechanical gaming division (pinball and the like). Hithladaeus (talk) 01:58, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
  • At least refactor to be about anthropologist ja:鈴木尚, and perhaps dab with the past Square (company) president (redlink at jawp) if there is enough to write about him. There are many possible ways to put that romanized name back into Japanese, and hence can refer to a lot of people. 野狼院ひさし u/t/c 11:30, 21 June 2015 (UTC) (no relation BTW)
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The result was delete. North America1000 02:29, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Shei baba[edit]

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Unencyclopaedic article about a Call of Duty player. Not sure that's notable enough to warrant a Wikipedia article. Adam9007 (talk) 00:19, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Delete: Fails GNG by a wide margin. Even the ONEEVENT doesn't pass GNG, and the one event would only vouch for a team. Coverage of the team would only vouch for the pseudonym. Coverage of the pseudonym even would not create coverage of the real name user -- much less one without a capitalized last name. Hithladaeus (talk) 01:55, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete as probable hoax: no coverage by any source (even self-published). Esquivalience t 04:28, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete Possible autobiography, with no notability able to be established (i.e. no hits on GNews). Note that the alleged real name "Chinmoy Roy" associates with multiple people, and a Bengali Indian actor currently takes its primary topic (though not at the best standing). 野狼院ひさし u/t/c 07:15, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
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List of Call of Duty characters[edit]

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The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) requirement. Majority of the content on this list is unreferenced and seems to be WP:OR. The few references that can be found either come from primary sources (the game itself), or contain characters which have their own articles. WP:LISTN requires that we should at least be able to present some sources that discuss the topic itself, and I am not seeing any reliable sources that discuss the "CoD characters". WP:LISTPEOPLE requires that items on the list should be notable in itself, something that most of the characters here (if not all) fail. Keep in mind that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXITS is not a valid criteria. I'd appreciate comments on why this list is appropriate for Wikipedia. Finally: keep in mind there is a place for this kind of fan stuff - the http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Call_of_Duty_Wiki Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:34, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Keep - Coverage cannot be glossed as the references and external links currently in use in the article. This article is poorly referenced and probably much longer than it ought to be, but there are plenty of secondary sources that could be used on this article that simply haven't been added. A Google News search for "Call of Duty characters" turns up several pages of results, and searches for individual character names would undoubtedly turn up many more. Neelix (talk) 17:07, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete - I'm not getting a GNG passing vibe either. The lack of referencing definitely eg the imdb link for Sgt Wallcroft only confirms the voice actor not the content. GraemeLeggett (talk) 19:06, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete WP:LISTCRUFT, a useless list of characters. The page isn't required. --Anarchyte 04:15, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
  • eteleD WP:GAMEGUIDE Wikipedia is not a video game guide. Gamingforfun365 (talk) 07:29, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep We can't keep up with each characters' names and biographies in each Call of Duty game articles and this article would make it easy for that propose. If you want, you can find some external sources for those characters, like you seen in Characters of God of War. BattleshipMan (talk) 23:34, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
That could be read as an appeal to WP:OtherStuffExists, there would have to be good referencing, more than just mentions. GraemeLeggett (talk) 05:59, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Do you think there should be an appeal about that to WP:OtherStuffExists? BattleshipMan (talk) 06:18, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
  • "We can't keep up with each characters' names and biographies in each Call of Duty game articles..." Why on earth not? I don't at all understand what that's supposed to mean.

    "...like you seen in Characters of God of War..." The characters in the God of War franchise actually recur in multiple games, and those games are supposed to comprise a coherent fictional world or narrative. There is therefore informational value to gathering the characters together as they actually all relate to each other, as well as formatting value to having one central page for topics (the characters) that pertain to multiple articles. Not so here, as I've explained below. postdlf (talk) 16:49, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

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  • Comment (or tentative delete). Some of the rationales given so far rest upon incorrect interpretations of guidelines or policies. WP:LISTN is not a "requirement" of all lists but instead only one way of analyzing lists (as it makes clear in its own text). It would also be difficult for a game to achieve notability without having any sources describe its characters (see, e.g., review including extensive commentary on characters for most recent game here, found in our article on that game). WP:LISTPEOPLE only applies to lists of real people, not lists of fictional people, so to whatever extent there is the expectation that lists of people only contain notable people (and even for real people, that depends on the list), that has no relevance here. It is instead standard practice to have lists of characters for notable franchises (for video games and for other types of media) where the characters do not merit standalone articles as a WP:SPLIT from the main franchise article. And merely describing the content of a primary source such as a video game does not constitute OR.

    That said, as best as I can tell none of the characters appear in more than one game. The franchise does not establish a shared fictional universe, but instead the narratives from one to another have nothing in common beyond sharing the same historic war settings. This definitely distinguishes this list from others like it, as that means there's really no informational utility to grouping all of the separate games' characters together. It would then be sufficient for each separate game article to internally list that game's characters. Unless I'm missing something here...? postdlf (talk) 21:04, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Keep This article shows the proper approach: making a combination article for characters in a major work, instead of on one hand trying to put it all in the main article or on the other hand tryign to write separate articles. It's the correct density of coverage. DGG ( talk ) 20:48, 26 June 2015 (UTC) a good
    • Only they're not from a work; see my comment above. The separate articles already exist in the form of the articles on each game, which should each list their own internally unique and unshared characters. In light of that, what do you think is gained by grouping them together? postdlf (talk) 21:03, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Weak delete: Although Call of Duty characters as a group are notable per the coverage, I think this goes out of the scope of game articles. Esquivalience t 22:32, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Soft deletion equivalent to an uncontested PROD. ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  16:02, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Brutal Gamer[edit]

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Non-notable video game blog. Fails WP:GNG and WP:WEB. The1337gamer (talk) 23:55, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

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The result was keep. Especially in light of the new sources unearthed during the AfD.  · Salvidrim! ·  16:33, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

JackSepticEye[edit]

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No real indication of importance, written more like an advert than a WP:BLP. As the article currently stands, it's a basic example of what most other YouTube personalities do. All or most of the references are promotional, leading back to his YouTube account and videos. Requesting deletion per WP:NOTWHOSWHO. --Anarchyte 08:54, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • For the record, sources #1 and #3 link to the same exact article, and source #2 is an extremely minor passing mention. So, you've really only provided one source that provides significant coverage, on the assumption "Irish Examiner" is a reliable sources. (I've never heard of it, so I don't know either way.) Sergecross73 msg me 15:54, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Oops! Sometimes I open too many tabs and accidentally paste the same URL twice - sorry about that. Anyway here are two more: [5], [6]. Also the one you called an extremely minor passing mention has this:

    However, the star of all Irish YouTubers is JackSepticEye aka Seán Mclaughlin, who is ranked in the top 100 in the world. Mclaughlin (25), who also makes a living talking his way through videogames, has accumulated 1.5 billion views. Social Blade puts his annual income at a minimum of €510,000. The maximum is a multiple of that sum. If these figures are to be believed, most of us would appear to be in the wrong line of work.

    It's short, but not a passing mention, and the contents indicate the notability of the subject. --Sammy1339 (talk) 16:39, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
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  • Delete - Sources above don't establish notability per the reasons stated by Sergecross73, I can't find any evidence of notability so will have to go with Delete. –Davey2010Talk 21:49, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep Per sources such as [7] [8] [9] [10]. In particular, the Sunday Times source says he runs Ireland's most popular YouTube channel, which seems notable. Everymorning talk 22:06, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was merge to OMGPop#Games. ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  17:51, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

List of games on OMGPop[edit]

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Non-notable list of game for now-defunct website - only one entry has an article (and none others are likely to warrant one) and no sources are likely to become available given its closure. Nikthestunned 09:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Merge OMGPop#Games Not sure why it was spun out and not going to find out in the 4 years of history, but evidently not large enough nor separately notable enough to warrant such a split. 野狼院ひさし u/t/c 11:57, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
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  • I imagine its because so many other platforms have lists spun out like this, like PlayStation 4 and List of PlayStation 4 games. Of course, upon looking at these articles and comparing them to the respective OMGPop articles, its obvious to see they are both far smaller, and don't need to be split out at all. Sergecross73 msg me 12:35, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Davewild (talk) 17:22, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Weird Science (game development studio)[edit]

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Not enougn coverage in reliable sources to verify or sustian article. Fails WP:GNG and WP:CORP. Coverage seems to focus on the app, which has an article, rather than the company. Notability is not inherited. JbhTalk 14:16, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Delete. App doesn't have an article—the link's about its namesake. The game dev, as a subject, lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) It had no meaningful hits in a video game reliable sources custom Google search. There are no worthwhile redirect targets. Please ping me you find more (non-English and offline) sources. – czar 20:48, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Question: does the app really have its own article? Because the wikilink in article-space goes to an article with the same name on an unrelated topic. CorporateM (Talk) 00:05, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
    @CorporateM: no the app does not have an article. The sources being used as refs in the article talk about the app rather than the makers though. I suppose an article on the app could be written assuming the notability standards for video games are low enough. JbhTalk 00:35, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete the current article; no objection to someone creating an article on the app. CorporateM (Talk) 00:38, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete not notable. Perhaps written for promotion as it's the only edit of its author.  sami  talk 12:56, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Davewild (talk) 18:42, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

LYFE (video game)[edit]

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This unreleased video game fails GNG. WP:TOOSOON. Sammy1339 (talk) 18:42, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

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The result was redirect to Final Fantasy VII. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 00:12, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Shinra Electric Power Company[edit]

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Notability not established. Largely in-universe description of a plot item in a video game, with references to books published by the game's publisher, an FAQ that doesn't discuss the topic in any detail and a self-published translation of part of one of the aforementioned books (dead link; try web.archive.org). QVVERTYVS (hm?) 13:16, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Redirect - Certainly a large part of the Final Fantasy series, but I don't think it really has any out-of-universe relevance though. Even if it did, it'd almost be a WP:TNT type situation - I mean its really pretty far away from what we want Wikipedia articles to look like. (For example, What's up up with all of the block quotes/"c quotes" that are fictional direct quotes from what the character says in-game. It looks like something out of a game manual or something.) (EDIT: I'm fine with a redirect, it is a plausible search term. A merge wouldn't be necessary though, as most of the content isn't usable, and Final Fantasy 7 is in great shape, so it probably has all it needs about Shinra there already.) Sergecross73 msg me 12:26, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Final Fantasy VII. Exactly—no out-of-universe significance in a video game reliable sources custom Google search. The main article is sourced and handles the relevant material just fine. Please ping me you find more (non-English and offline) sources. – czar 23:06, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Move as suggested - My searches found nothing to suggest this has outstanding notability for a separate article. SwisterTwister talk 04:05, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Redirect - way, way too much in-universe detail; none of the information is usable in the article on the game as is. --PresN 18:44, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 23:45, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Brogue (video game)[edit]

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Previous PROD, reason for removal being "This game received very good reviews from the gaming media and has a very dedicated fanbase. How is it of no importance?". I personally can't find anything that makes this article pass WP:GNG. --Anarchyte 00:04, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Keep - At least two existing sources in the article, plus a few others with a goggle search [11], [12], [13]. It's probably not going have a typical AAA game article structure but does appear notable. --MASEM (t) 00:14, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep - - per sources on talk page. Extremely lazy nomination. Please brush up on deletion policy, especially WP:BEFORE. A simple search could have found you the sources necessary to meet the WP:GNG. Sergecross73 msg me 00:22, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
    • The nominator explicitly stated that he/she at least tried to look for sources - that means that WP:BEFORE was done, and patrollers don't usually search the talk page for sources. Searching this game up with a few different keywords doesn't come with clear cut results. An nominator making an inaccurate nomination doesn't mean that the nominator is clueless on the deletion policy and notability guidelines, nor does it deserve blunt criticism. Esquivalience t 01:40, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
      • Esquivalience - The sources I'm talking about are available on the articles very short talk page, and a few are even in the article itself. If they didn't bother to check in places as obvious as this, I don't think they did a very good job following through on BEFORE. Also, at least one of the sources shows up on the most basic of searches - merely typing the name in at Google. This is found, and reliable per WP:VG/S. Sergecross73 msg me 03:11, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. Article topic has several hits in a video game reliable sources custom Google search. (@Anarchyte, as a WPVG regular, it would be useful to search that custom Google site before listing a video game at AfD.) The Rock, Paper, Shotgun, PC Gamer, and indiegames.com articles are from vetted sources should be just sufficient for the general notability guideline, and then there's also Masem's links above. It isn't a lot—I would like to see more reviews, in particular—but there's more than passing mentions and enough to write an article. – czar 14:54, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:26, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Retro VGS[edit]

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advertising The Banner talk 23:03, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Comment - I had stumbled across this article in the past, and was also unhappy about it. But, it does seem to have the sources necessary to meet the WP:GNG. Does it need pretty much a complete rewrite, so it doesn't sounds like an "About the Project" type description from a Kickstarter page? Definitely. But I don't know about deletion... Sergecross73 msg me 15:26, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I used reliable sources, and IGN also has an article on it (though admittedly it says nothing we haven't already seen on other websites), so I'd say it's pretty notable. Also, I apologize if it seems like I was advertising. I'm really not. I have absolutely nothing to do with the project, I just thought it was a very interesting idea, so I created this page. Logan The Master (talk) 5:18, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Keep as it meets notability standards as well as GNG. --wL<speak·check> 22:13, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep. The time spent on this AfD would be better spent cleaning up the article. Yes, it should be sourced to secondary sources wherever possible instead of the press release, however there are a number of sources for the purposes of the general notability guideline, including the TechCrunch refs currently in the article and the first few hits of the video game vetted sources custom Google search. "Advertising" is not a good deletion rationale—otherwise it would qualify for speedy deletion. – czar 03:45, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:26, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Far Horizon (video game)[edit]

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Unreleased video game that does not seem to meet the notability criteria; no sources given to indicate notability or significance 331dot (talk) 15:38, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Delete. Article topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) It had no meaningful hits in a video game reliable sources custom Google search. There are no worthwhile redirect targets as the dev also lacks coverage. Please ping me you find more (non-English and offline) sources. – czar 14:26, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails WP:GNG. Can't find any reliable sources. The1337gamer (talk) 14:28, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete - Not a notable game. AdrianGamer (talk) 14:39, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete. No coverage in reliable sources. Studio seems to exist, but no news source has reported on them or their project. I don't even see a press release anywhere. It looks like it's way too soon for an article. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:41, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete and possible speedy delete per A7 or G11. No claim to any significance, likely some sort of advertising. Pretty clearly non-notable. mikeman67 (talk) 21:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete - appears to lack significance and reliable sources. Fails WP:GNG. Perhaps it will meet the criteria when released, but I could be misleading myself with that assumption - WP:TOOSOON. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 22:00, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Sam Walton (talk) 09:35, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Big Pharma (game)[edit]

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I couldn't establish that this meets WP:NOTABILITY. Boleyn (talk) 06:13, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Delete - fails GNG МандичкаYO 😜 06:21, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete: Not an article. Advertising. Not notable. Hithladaeus (talk) 14:19, 6 June 2015 (UTC) Changing to weak delete on grounds of notability. Hithladaeus (talk) 01:33, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
    • Comment: The article we read today is much different from the one nominated for deletion. In particular, the most offensive violations of policy are gone. Although the debate has turned up sources, I'm having trouble. People say that AfD isn't clean up, but it is articles for deletion, not "concepts" for deletion, and if people argue to keep an article because the concept is valid, they're arguing fallaciously, in my opinion. There still aren't iRS of notability given in the article. Hithladaeus (talk) 01:33, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
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  • Delete - Unfortunately, I think I'm leaning more towards delete for now and maybe draft to userspace as my searches only found this (News links) and this (some reviews from Rock Paper Shotgun and PCGamer). It's gotten some coverage but nothing significant. SwisterTwister talk 21:21, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete, although it'll probably be remade when it's more notable. --Anarchyte 06:20, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep - I don't think notability is an issue for this game anymore. There are serval big Youtube Channels such as NerdCubed, Sips, Northernlion, and EnterElysium had done videos for this game, and had got considerable amounts of views on them.Kdmjf12000 (talk) 01:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Those YouTube channels are all examples of self-published sources which in general fail Wikipedia's criteria for reliablity, so they can't be used to establish notability. The1337gamer (talk) 19:48, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
There is significant coverage from reliable, independent sources (?) and more than enough material with which to write an article. @Boleyn, Wikimandia, Hithladaeus, SwisterTwister, Anarchyte, Kdmjf12000, and The1337gamer – czar 19:28, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep per Czar. Another useful source also: [14] --The1337gamer (talk) 19:45, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep There is sufficient coverage identified above to establish notability per the main notability guideline. Davewild (talk) 07:23, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete. – czar 19:18, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

The App Guruz[edit]

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Non-notable company, has produced a fair number of apps but doesn't meet WP:GNG Primefac (talk) 11:47, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Delete. There is no indication that the subject meets the requirements of WP:GNG and WP:NCOMP. The article itself just cites primary sources. While performing my own search, I discovered nothing but a few brief mentions from sources that were either not independent or reliable. --Biblioworm 23:53, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete article does not indicate why they are notable, "sources" are the subject's own website, web searches turn up sales outlets, news and books yield nothing. Kraxler (talk) 17:56, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete and redirect to Endless Ages. – czar 09:23, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Aaron Boucher[edit]

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Article about a game designer that, aside from the inappropriate promotional narrative and unsourced material, seems to fail WP:BIO thoroughly. Alternatively a redirect to Endless Ages might be called for, with a minor bio blurb there with whatever can actually be sourced. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 17:12, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Delete - thoroughly promotional, with no evidence of significant, in-depth, third-party coverage. Neutralitytalk 23:30, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete - per nomination. 203.45.10.187 (talk) 06:15, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Move to Endless Ages as it seems he's known for creating that, as for notability, my searches found nothing significant to suggest independent notability. SwisterTwister talk 17:37, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete. North America1000 08:13, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Impressive Title[edit]

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Procedural nomination, article was PRODded by The1337gamer (t c), but the article was already deleted once via PROD in 2010.

The1337gamer's concern was: "Fails WP:GNG. Lacks significant coverage from reliable sources." —Darkwind (talk) 08:07, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Delete - I agree that it fails the WP:GNG. It seems like nothing more than a fan's documentation of non-notable minutiae about the game's history. Non-notable fangame. If someone finds sources, like the ones documented at WP:VG/S, I'd be willing to reconsider though - there could be some hidden out there behind all the false-positives that would come up with searching for such a generic name. Sergecross73 msg me 19:23, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete WP:Notability (video games) --Anarchyte 00:44, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
@Anarchyte, just pointing to a policy without an explanation of reasoning is a deletion argument to avoid. – czar 15:22, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete. North America1000 08:12, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

SpaceBall (game)[edit]

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No indication of importance, WP:GNG, WP:Notability (video games). There's no references and I can't seem to find any. --Anarchyte 08:01, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Delete or redirect to the cell phone the game came with: Because this was a pre-loaded game, it will have an amazing amount of exposure, and there probably is documentation on its approval and selection. That doesn't mean that it is independently notable as a video game, though. Hithladaeus (talk) 18:01, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete - article makes no claim to any notability at all, no sources on page. mikeman67 (talk) 20:53, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete - Unfortunately, there probably isn't even anything to support a small merge to the phone article as my searches only found one minor mention. SwisterTwister talk 20:27, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete. No hits in a video game reliable sources custom Google search. Please ping me you find more (non-English and offline) sources. There are no worthwhile redirect targets unless a source mentions its relation to a specific model of phone. Article topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) – czar 15:25, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 06:46, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Henry (virtual reality experience)[edit]

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DePRODed by creator without any attempt to address the issue(s). Concern was: No reliable 3rd party sources. No indication of importance. Promotional. Article fails WP:GNG and is possibly a candidate for speedy deletion WP:A7 and WP:G11. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:34, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Delete: It doesn't exist yet. This is TOOSOON and all that, because the article exists on the basis of a rumor of a project based on a hint. It can't be verified or be notable until it -- you know -- exists. Hithladaeus (talk) 18:21, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete for now (and maybe draft to userspace) - There's nothing solid yet and although my searches found several links here and here, there's not much yet. SwisterTwister talk 00:16, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Bigpoint_Games#List_of_games_developed_by_Bigpoint . (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 00:12, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

SpaceInvasion[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Lacks significant coverage from reliable sources. The1337gamer (talk) 23:22, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Delete per nom --Anarchyte 00:20, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
@Editorofthewiki: Both of these sources appear to be completely unrelated to article and game in question. Maybe you should familiarise yourself with the topic first. --The1337gamer (talk) 16:51, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
Yep, those links are not about this game. – czar 15:30, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
And in any case, a college student project page would not typically be sufficient sourcing to establish notability.Dialectric (talk) 18:24, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Sam Walton (talk) 00:10, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Scott Cawthon[edit]

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Author contested PROD but concern still seems noticeable. Notable only for FNAF games - WP:BLP1E TL22 (talk) 01:04, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Same concern as the nom I had when I came across this at WP:VG/R, and I will give the same suggestion here: Redirect Five Nights at Freddy's (series) unless he develops any new notable games that is significantly outside the FNAF series. 野狼院ひさし u/t/c 03:24, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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  • Keep - "Notable only for FNAF games" doesn't come off as a valid reason for deleting his article, imo. Besides, there are some reliable sources for the articles. TouchArcade, IGN, Kotaku bear some fruit on some information to add onto the page. GamerPro64 03:47, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep - Nominators reasoning isn't a valid reason for deletion, he's notable per those games. --Anarchyte 09:29, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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  • Delete - If he's only notable for one game franchise, which in itself is not universally-known, he is not notable enough to have a Wikipedia page about him. If we keep this, we might as well make pages for the dev of SCP - Containment Breach, and Slender: The Eight Pages, and every other slightly-popular indie game out there. Killerwhale24680 (talk) 21:49, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep - His significance is sufficient for an article on Wikipedia. Look at Kevin MacLeod. I guess their significance are similar. --Fazbear7891 (talk) 22:33, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
    But not because of that we're going to keep this article. WP:WHATABOUTX --TL22 (talk) 22:46, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep - If he were only here for the FNAF games, it would be a weak keep, but finding out that he's also involved with Hope Animations changes it to a flat-out keep from me. FNAF may be his most popularly-known project, but it's certainly not the only thing he's done - Noah's Ark was in development in 2005, as an example. I will say that the article could use a lot more detail about non-FNAF things, though. And a lot more refs, but then again, what article couldn't? NekoKatsun (talk) 15:53, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
    • Now that I think about it, you're right. I don't think the article really needs to be deleted, but we need more info on stuff that Cawthon has done aside from FNAF. If that were to happen, I think the article would be much better. Killerwhale24680 (talk) 19:01, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was Delete. --MelanieN (talk) 21:28, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Football Manager 2016[edit]

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Possible future product fails WP:CRYSTAL as it's entirely based upon a job posting for the project. Per WP:CRYSTAL, "short articles that consist only of product announcement information are not appropriate" and this isn't even an announcement. --Non-Dropframe talk 22:13, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Delete. I certainly expect that this article will be made at some time in the future, but there's no reason for it to exist in its current state. Clearly falls under WP:CRYSTAL. This type of content seems best suited to game-related message boards. Bordwall(talkctrb) 23:57, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
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  • Delete WP:CRYSTAL and WP:TOOSOON. It will be notable, but not right now. Also, it hasn't actually been confirmed as happening, the name could change (they used to be called "Championship Manager" after all). Joseph2302 (talk) 14:55, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
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  • Delete – It has all been said above. WP:CRYSTAL and WP:TOOSOON. Perhaps we should look at the other creations from this unexperienced user also. Qed237 (talk) 19:47, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
  • DeleteWP:TOOSOON --Anarchyte 09:52, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete - As others have said, WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL. RegistryKey(RegEdit) 06:40, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete As detailed above, WP:CRYSTAL applies here. The article should be deleted and may be recreated upon release of the product when it meets WP:Notability guidelines. — Jordan Mussi Talk 15:21, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete WP:TOOSOON RoadWarrior445 (talk) 06:19, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete - Had there been alot more content and sources I'd of probably !voted Keep but a one liner with one source doesn't cut it, Seems more logical to delete and just recreate once there's more known about it. –Davey2010Talk 00:58, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete. I found a couple of sources that mention requested features for the game (realism & "demands") but these don't really support content in a Wikipedia article. There isn't enough (yet) to prove notability. Axl ¤ [Talk] 09:50, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was Delete. --MelanieN (talk) 21:32, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Turtle punch[edit]

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This is a free browser game. None of the sources are independent of the developer, and I can't find anything on Google but press releases. A WP:VG/RS Google custom search comes up similarly empty. It looks like this article was created too soon, as I don't see any evidence that it satisfies our inclusion criteria. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:09, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

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  • Delete per the nominators reasoning. --Anarchyte 09:33, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete - Unfortunately, this has not received any independent coverage at all and I found nothing despite multiple searches. SwisterTwister talk 05:54, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
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