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Video games-related deletions[edit]

TipTop (video game)[edit]

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Fails WP:NVG, as tagged since January 2011. The article was deprodded by The Drover's Wife. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 02:10, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

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Neo Universe (EXEcutional)[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Topic is about a fictional game within a comic/manga series. Topic has no coverage from reliable secondary sources. Article is composed of trivia and original research. The1337gamer (talk) 11:40, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete: Completely trivial. TheMagikCow (talk) 12:03, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

AmazHS[edit]

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Article's subject does not appear to be notable upon a full review, (coverage in reliable sources is far less than significant, and the criteria of WP:ANYBIO are not met), including a google news search that returns 9 hits (0 of which cover the subject in detail). Coffee // have a cup // beans // 18:11, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete a non-notable professional video game player.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:49, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Comment try looking up "amaz" instead. The previous title "AmazHS" wasn't really WP:COMMONNAME, so I've decided to change.--Prisencolin (talk) 08:12, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Yandere Dev[edit]

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WP:BEFORE does not reveal enough reliable sources to support a BLP. Article has entirely primary sources (either self-published or interviews). Waggie (talk) 03:13, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

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  • Redirect to Yandere Simulator, as I created it, but don't delete it to wipe the edit history in case of the slim chance consensus decides he should have a page again. Raymond1922 (talk) 05:42, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Retribution Engine[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Non-notable video game engine. Zero coverage from reliable video game sources. Nearly 12 years since creation only one source has been added, and all it provides is download stats which is trivial. The1337gamer (talk) 22:54, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete - While looking for sources I didn't find any that could pass. The personal reviews that I was seeing were even saying that there have been no significant creations on this gaming engine. Fails WP:N. My search got better results with looking up Retribution gaming (or game) engine. - Pmedema (talk) 03:53, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

List of Japan-exclusive video games[edit]

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First off, the title of this article is misleading, since the list criteria which have been in the article since its creation in January 2006 have little to do with which countries the games have been released in. Per those criteria, the title should be "List of Japanese language video games with at least one version that has no official English language release". In other words:

  • Games which are Japan-exclusive but are in English (yes, there are a considerable number of such games) do not qualify for this list
  • Games which have been released in many countries but not in English do qualify for the list
  • Games which have been released in English but had one version which was not in English (e.g. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dark Seed II, Grandia) do qualify for the list

Obviously the discrepancy between the title and the criteria can easily be fixed, either by changing the criteria or moving the article. However, whether you go by the title or the stated criteria, the list is far too broad in scope to ever come close to being comprehensive. This issue was brought up in the original AfD, which was closed as no consensus, and was not addressed by any of those who voted keep. All five of the "keep" votes provided no justification beyond vague assertions that the article can be improved, which just leads to the question: How can it possibly be improved? The inclusion criteria are too arbitrary and ill-defined to have been discussed in notable sources, so there's no reason to think that this article could one day have something more than original research. Martin IIIa (talk) 15:34, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

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  • Comment - For what its worth, if this happens to be kept again, the article isn't very actively maintained, so you could probably alter the inclusion criteria without much resistance. (And if there was resistance, you could contact the very active WP:VG for assistance on consensus building.) I just thought I'd throw that out there, considering how many of your qualms seem to be focused around the article's current inclusion criteria. The article could possibly be reshaped into something that makes a bit more sense. (Not that I'm defending the article, I'm currently undecided.) Sergecross73 msg me 16:01, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete Per nom. I agree that the subject of the list is far, far too broad in scope to ever be comprehensive. A quick look at the number of entries in Category:Japan-exclusive video games shows just how many games this list would need to contain to be comprehensive. The existence of this category also makes this list somewhat unnecessary as a navigation tool, as the category can be used for the same purpose. There is also the issue that, as this list contain zero reliable source, the entire lead in and the arbitrary labeling of some of the games on the list as "import classics" is complete OR. While this list could be potentially completely reworked, have some reliable sources brought it to support its information, and have its inclusion criteria redefined into something that makes sense, that would essentially mean rebuilding the entire list from the ground up. And considering what poor shape this list has been in for years, if that was something that was desirable, it would be far easier to delete this one, and create an entirely new article in its place, rather than keep this mess around with the hope that somebody will fix it someday. 64.183.45.226 (talk) 17:15, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Rise of the Robots (series)[edit]

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There are a total of two games in the Rise of the Robots series. This article just retells the information that is already available at their respective articles. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 12:00, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete - Though the two games in this series are certainly notable, the series itself has no independent notability. Additionally, as a practical matter, there's no sense in having an article which consists of information copy-and-pasted from two other articles. It creates unnecessary maintenance work for editors, and it's simpler and more intuitive for readers to access the articles on the individual games.--Martin IIIa (talk) 14:09, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete - the current consensus among the Video Games WikiProject is that two entries is not enough to warrant a series article, considering all info can usually pretty easily fit into either individual entry's article. Sergecross73 msg me 16:14, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
If this is deleted I would also recommend deleting the series trmplate.--64.229.167.158 (talk) 03:57, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
I'd agree even if it's kept. Almost all the entries on it are tangentially related. There's no need to "navigational aid" among those items. Sergecross73 msg me 16:17, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Mimics (video game)[edit]

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unremarkable app that launched this month - may be a case of TOOSOON ... not broad coverage in RS DarjeelingTea (talk) 22:16, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

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Realmforge Studios[edit]

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Non-notable video game company. The article was recently deprodded by Manwoody. Also, AdrianGamer removed a notability tag in Special:Diff/660734098, which I have restored. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 15:31, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

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Attack of the Mutant Penguins[edit]

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Like Club Drive, this article was brought to AfD and closed as keep under shaky circumstances back in 2010 (see WP: Articles for deletion/Club Drive (2nd nomination) for the full story), and is due for reconsideration. Similar problems apply: The article has virtually no content, and the article subject has no claim to notability and very little coverage from notable/reliable sources. The article lists "Allgame review" as a source, but checking an archive of the now dead link I see Allgame in fact only had a brief synopsis of the game, no review or other significant content. Martin IIIa (talk) 20:41, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

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  • Keep as passing WP:GNG with multiple reliable independent in-depth (reviews) sources from contemporary magazines, as listed here. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 19:41, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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    • I consulted Mobygames before opening this AfD and was not impressed by the listing there. Of the 16 reviews listed, two have been determined to be unreliable, and only one has been confirmed to be reliable - GamePro, which doesn't help establish notability since during the 1990s they reviewed every single game that was released. On top of that, of the sources that haven't been determined to be unreliable, only five are in English.--Martin IIIa (talk) 13:28, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
      • WP:NONENG allows non-English sources and that is not a valid deletion reason. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and it's not really relevant how many other games have or haven't been reviewed. I see contemporary printed magazines with editorial staff. I sort of understand your position, but I don't agree the available sources are insufficient for GNG. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 14:48, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Val d'Isère Skiing and Snowboarding[edit]

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Like Club Drive, this article was brought to AfD and closed as keep under shaky circumstances back in 2010 (see WP: Articles for deletion/Club Drive (2nd nomination)), and is due for reconsideration. Similar problems apply: No claim to notability, no sources, and the only hint of coverage is unsourced scores from two Atari-specific sites. My own researches on the era have turned up nothing on the game beyond the obligatory GamePro review. --Martin IIIa (talk) 18:45, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

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  • Keep as passing WP:GNG with multiple reliable independent in-depth (reviews) sources from contemporary magazines, as listed here. I don't have access to the magazines with those exact dates and IA doesn't seem to have most archived either. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 16:25, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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    • I'm even less impressed by the Mobygames listing for this game than the one for Attack of the Mutant Penguins. It actually adds to the body of evidence that this game is not notable. Only nine reviews, and when you cross off the ones from unreliable and/or foreign language sources, all you're left with is Diehard Gamefan and the obligatory GamePro review. --Martin IIIa (talk) 13:37, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
      • WP:NONENG allows non-English sources and that is not a valid deletion reason. I see contemporary printed magazines with editorial staff. I sort of understand your position, but I don't agree the available sources are insufficient for GNG. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 14:23, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Shooting of Jiansheng Chen[edit]

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A single event that is largely of local interest. Deletion nomination per WP:NOTNEWS. Non-Dropframe talk 04:13, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete - I could find several mentions of the death in international media, but the lack of more than a passing mention just doesn't seem to meet WP:NOTE. It doesn't help that the article itself fails to specify any reasons for notability (such as any controversy that may have been caused by the cause of death). felixphew (talk | contribs) 04:45, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
    • I'm confused what a "passing mention" is. All of the articles I have seen are detailed articles with several paragraphs. A "passing mention" is when you have an article that lists the 12 people who were murdered in Virginia today and one of the 12 is Jiansheng Chen, with no further details. --B (talk) 01:16, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete as nomination and WP:ONEEVENT - Arjayay (talk) 09:36, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete Per WP:NOTNEWS. Sad event but no lasting notability or significance. AusLondonder (talk) 17:04, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Comment The article's original author left the following comment on the Wikipedia talk page rather than here in the discussion. Non-Dropframe talk 21:43, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
The shooting of Jiansheng Chen is a civil rights issue. What do you mean by "of local interest"? How much did the security guard company pay you to nominate the page for deletion? I'm y.j. (talk) 04:20, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
I'm y.j. I think you might like to familiarise yourself with WP:NPA and WP:AGF before striking and apologising for those comments. AusLondonder (talk) 02:13, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
That's an absurd accusation. Don't take things personally, its just that Wikipedia doesn't make an article for every single crime story on the news. Sergecross73 msg me 16:33, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
  • See also Jiansheng Chen and associated AFD. - GB fan 02:30, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete both. If we must document this somewhere, perhaps in an "Impact/effects of Pokemon Go section/article", but it doesn't require its own article, per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:ROUTINE. Sergecross73 msg me 16:33, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
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  • Keep: far from being "largely of local interest" this has been reported worldwide. WP:ONEEVENT doesn't apply to events. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 00:05, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep - the story has been picked up by CBS News and NBC News nationally. This seems to go well beyond a local news story. --B (talk) 01:14, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep or merge with the other page "Jiansheng Chen". Thanks to another editor's help, I have plenty evidence of significant local coverage (the Virginian Pilot), national coverage (NBC, CBS [1][2]) and international coverage ([3][4][5][6][7][8][9]). This strongly suggests that the content deserves to be kept in one way or another. The victim was Chinese and spoke almost no English. That added more complexity to the seemingly odd killing by certain security force and is bringing more attention from national and international coverage. SlowSuperMom (talk) 03:08, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep There's international coverage for this. Not enough to support an individual article for the deceased person but definitely enough to support an article for the event. Exemplo347 (talk) 03:11, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete - The amount of coverage alone is not enough to justify keeping the article. To justify keeping an article on an event, we need to establish some significance and impact. WP: NOTNEWS states "While news coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion."[emphasis added] What we have here is a typical crime news event which is used to fill air time and print copy because it is "odd" (to quote SlowSuperMom) but which is forgotten a week later because it has no real impact on anyone not directly involved, and because every week someone is shot in their bathtub or run over by drunken joyriders or permanently scarred by falling face first on a box of thumb tacks. Unusual deaths just aren't that unusual, and they certainly aren't notable.--Martin IIIa (talk) 12:55, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
    • The shooting was on January 26 and People wrote about it on February 7 ... so it hasn't been forgotten about in a week. --B (talk) 13:08, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
      • "forgotten a week later" is a figure of speech; my meaning was not that such a news item is forgotten in the exact time span of a week, but that it is forgotten as soon as another news item comes along to replace it. An event being reported on 12 days after its occurrence is hardly an indication of lasting significance.--Martin IIIa (talk) 13:56, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete as per nomination and WP:NOTNEWS, not enough information to have it's own article. TheDeviantPro (talk) 12:43, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete Basically routine news at this point. No evidence of lasting impact. Several of the SPA accounts involved in writing the article keeping saying it's "potentially" the next "Treyvon Martin", but there's no evidence of that. -- ferret (talk) 14:49, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Today (February 14), there was more news about it - [10][11][12] - three congressmen from the metro area issued a statement. There was also news yesterday about the change.org petition seeking "justice" in the case [13]. I don't claim this to be the next Trayvon Martin or any such thing - but I do claim that it meets our notability requirements. --B (talk) 22:53, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep or Merge to Pokémon Go § Criticism and incidents, which presently has no mention of this incident that has received national coverage in the U.S. (People, NBC News, CBS News) and in many other areas of the world ([14], [15], [16], [17]). The incident is recent, but has continued to received coverage in reliable sources right up to this very day (The Virginian Pilot, WTKR, The Roanoake Times, etc.) This suggests that this incident will continue to receive sustained coverage. At the very least, this can be merged per WP:ATD-M. North America1000 05:20, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
    Comment I'm opposed to any merger to Pokemon Go, which appears to be little more than a bait headline and not core to the shooting or its subsequent coverage. -- ferret (talk) 14:07, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
    It's an incident that occurred while a man was playing Pokémon Go and was shot to death doing so. This section of the Pokémon Go aricle also has similar content in it, about a person in Guatemala shot and killed while playing the game and another person accompanying the person who was shot in the foot. I view this as a valid merge relative to content already in the merge target. North America1000 17:29, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:ONEEVENT. - Julietdeltalima (talk) 22:17, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Please explain how WP:ONEEVENT relates to events. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 22:19, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
The event itself, while unfortunate, isn't notable per WP:NOTNEWS, and to the extent arguments have been made that the event is notable for the reason that the victim himself possessed one or more particular attributes (age, ethnicity, being a Pokémon Go player, etc.), I'd argue that WP:ONEEVENT applies as well. - Julietdeltalima (talk) 22:38, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. I'm still more swayed by the ongoing international coverage, though. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 22:34, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
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  • Keep: This is NOT just another "typical crime news event", rather it represents one of historical incidents where Chinese Americans continuously being systemically discriminated against. --Vincent_wk (talk) 15:58, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
    • Where is the evidence that anything about this case was racially motivated? - GB fan 23:37, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:ONEEVENT. No lasting notability. If this has impact on something else, then that's where it should be described. The other keep arguments seem to center on this being "widely reported", but that only fails WP:NOTNEWS. It may be used as source material, but that's not sufficient for a stand-alone article. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 15:24, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Update: the rent-a-cop has been charged with murder [18][19]. I'm not sure that some who are citing WP:NOTNEWS have actually read what it says. I keep reading it over and I'm not seeing how this article violates it at all. Just because something is a news story does not automatically exclude it from coverage. Most events that happened in the last few hundred years and about which Wikipedia articles have been written were, in fact, covered in the news. We don't have articles about routine things like individual sporting events (unless they are famous in some way) or trivia like the Microsoft First Quarter 2017 Dividend or February 17, 2017 traffic accident on I-64 in Richmond, VA, but this doesn't seem to be trivial like that. The coverage of this shooting has continued for several weeks now and has been picked up by national and international media. I'm not sure why we're getting scared off just because it's also a news story. Yes, there are a lot of SPAs promoting this article, but I think it's worth taking a look on the merits. --B (talk) 16:08, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Comment This is really simple - the GNG has been met. Will people stop muddying the issues and read the GNG for themselves? This really isn't a difficult AfD discussion! Exemplo347 (talk) 23:16, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
    • B - No one said that being in the news excludes it from coverage on Wikipedia. The reason people are citing WP: NOTNEWS is because the article subject is a clear instance of something which is reported in the news but has no enduring significance.
    • Exemplo347 - You should take a look at WP: GNG yourself, as it clearly indicates that meeting the GNG is a necessary, not sufficient, criterion for having an article on a subject.--Martin IIIa (talk) 01:00, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
      • The list of things that NOTNEWS lists are wholly unrelated to the subject of this article - "For example, routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia." The idea is that we don't have articles on trivial junk just because there was a wedding announcement in the newspaper and we don't turn celebrities' articles into a tabloid-like list of their every day lives. It's not a prohibition on a news item being considered notable. And I think you're underselling WP:GNG. WP:GNG says that a topic is presumed suitable for an article if it meets the criterion. That's a much stronger statement than to just say that it's one of several requirements. The rebuttable presumption is that the topic is notable. We accept that we don't need articles about Justin Bieber's trip to the grocery store or my (assuming I'm a non-notable person) wedding or death - that's WP:NOTNEWS - but NOTNEWS is not a blanket prohibition on otherwise notable things that were covered in the news. --B (talk) 15:08, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
        • Again, no one has said items reported in the news are banned from coverage, and creating straw man arguments for the opposition just demonstrates a lack of confidence in your position. Trying to construe "presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article" as "incontrovertibly suited for a stand-alone article, to the point where all other Wikipedia policies must be ignored" is a better effort, but frankly predictable, and completely undone by the fact that right in the lead section of WP: GNG it lists two necessary requirements for meriting an article. One is the GNG, the other is WP: NOT. Finally, claiming that this article doesn't fall under NOTNEWS because it's not listed among the specific examples is just weak.--Martin IIIa (talk) 13:54, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
          • I'm confused. On one hand is a guideline that says the topic is presumed to be notable. On the other hand, there is a policy that doesn't say anything to the contrary and gives examples that are wholly unrelated to the subject at hand. This article does not resemble any of the examples given in WP:NOTNEWS and you haven't explained how it does meet any of the rules in WP:NOTNEWS. Above, you quoted "most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion", but the very next sentence explains what "most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion" is talking about - "routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities". This is nothing like that. --B (talk) 13:41, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
  • keep for now as per WP:RAPID. I was troubled by the fact that sources on the page are local (Note that WaPo is a regional paper) and the NBC stories are on NBC Asian. The anglophone Asian press, however, has picked this story up and run with it as though it is a race crime, although coverage I looked at does not support this. However, The AP now has this: "Security guard charged with murder in Chesapeake shooting", picked up by a local paper [[20]] Trial will bring out issues such as was the guard or the company that hired him negligent, and whether they is anything to the support the idea that victim was targeted because he was Asian. Suggest that we close as 'No consensus for now and revisit in 6 months. Trial may also clarify whether there is an appropriate merge target.E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:56, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
    • Note that the Washington Post has covered this (search here: [21]), but only as local news. Not seeing that any national American publications have picked it up (except in Asian interest editions). Still thinking we should punt and revisit in 6 months.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:12, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
    • As a point of information, Washington DC is about 4-5 hours away from Chesapeake, depending on traffic. Chesapeake is not in the DC metro area and the Washington Post does not routinely cover "local news" from Chesapeake - see https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia/ for the Virginia counties they cover as "local" news - all of these are in Northern Virginia, whereas Chesapeake is in the Southeastern corner of the state. --B (talk) 15:08, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
  • The thing is, the articles are clearly labeled "Local News" at the top of the page. Like other American big city dailies, the Washington Post covers nearby regions as local news, printing a different set of "Local News" in each of several regional editions. Stories about a "local" crime in Virginia (or a local election, a celebration, etc.) will not appear in the copies of the paper delivered in Maryland or in the District, and visa versa. Of course, everyone can see them online.E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:05, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Merge as appropriate The two things that keep this from being a tragic yet still routine everyday shooting are the reported but not quite flushed out Pokémon Go connection, and the fact that Mr. Chen was Chinese and didn't speak English. The best solution is to merge the info into any appropriate other articles. My rationale for a merge is how the article of school shootings in the US lists all the shootings, but you'll notice they don't all have their own articles, despite an amount for many similar to that for the Chen shooting. In Chen's case, the Pokemon connection is the strongest, because it explains why he was at the location where he was shot, and perhaps why his behavior may have seemed to be suspicious to the guard. The Chinese and non-English speaking angle only becomes significant (IMHO) if it can be shown that those attributes contributed to his being shot. Without any evidence of the shooter having a racist history, and even then, that connection is going to be very hard for any prosecutor to prove. Plus, even if it could be shown to be a factor, I can't find a niche US hate crime attacks article where a merge might work. I previously put the info about Mr. Chen in Pokémon_Go#Criticism_and_incidents but undid the revision when I realized I might be going against consensus, per the talk page. If the info does eventually wind up there, I'd redirect this article there. Timtempleton (talk) 04:55, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete - per WP:NOTNEWS, WP:ROUTINE. DrStrauss talk 19:08, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
    • Where in WP:ROUTINE do you find "murder case that spawns a month of national news coverage"? Yesterday (February 23), NBC News (national) had another story about the case - [22]. (There have also been near daily stories in the local media for the locality where the shooting happened, as well as international Asian media because the victim was a Chinese immigrant.) WP:ROUTINE discusses things like wedding announcements, and one-and-done type stories where someone is the subject of a human interest story and never heard from again. Coverage that goes on for a month in the national and international media is hardly "routine" nor just a local news item. --B (talk) 13:34, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
      • What about WP:EVENTCRIT, bullet 4? Where is any evidence of "enduring significance"? It's simply an ongoing criminal investigation. -- ferret (talk) 14:12, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep or Merge per previous comments. --David Tornheim (talk) 23:44, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep. The Article cites 7 sources, at least some of them from nationally or globally recognized outlets. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 05:17, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. Lemongirl942 (talk) 09:32, 25 February 2017 (UTC)