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Welcome to the Ideas Cafe where we serve up ideas for Women in Red's virtual editathons! The Ideas Cafe is our planning page, where your ideas become WiR events. Here, we discuss, organize, plan, and coordinate our activities. Please join the discussion here or on our project talkpage.
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  • identify sponsors and/or WikiProject hosts
  • create list of potential participants, including active editors from the area(s) to be covered
  • create editathon banner
  • create/find editathon icon
  • develop the WiR redlist, find related redlink lists
  • create meetup page, completing sections on
  • "Add these to articles" (stub templates, applicable categories, useful lists)
  • "Add these to article talkpages" (WikiProject banners, editathon banner for the event)
  • create the invite
  • distribute the invite
  • develop social media campaign (FB, Twitter)
  • We haven't been doing this but it would be great if we had a social media volunteer
  • add Authority Control if missing to all the articles created during the event
  • double-check each article for categories
  • double-check each article for talkpage banners
  • create the thank you and/or barnstar
  • develop a list of contributors (overlaps to some degree with registered participants)
  • distribute the thank you and/or barnstar after the event to the contributors
  • create Wikidata entry if none exists

Suffrage, 2019 initiative[edit]

We talked about suffrage on our main talkpage and I wonder if there's any enthusiasm for having a "year of suffrage" just like we did a "year of science" a couple of years ago? Different organizations will be doing different events in 2019 and we could be supportive of all of that. Also, maybe we could really make an impact on all things suffrage if we have a year to do it. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:47, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Definitely interested in it! SusunW (talk) 16:52, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Changing name to reflect what was agreed upon on WiR talkpage. Note this event will last all year. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:46, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Women's suffrage in Europe: see [1]--Ipigott (talk) 10:55, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to make this a year-long campaign. (Kind of like 1 day 1 woman, but each month focus on the different countries and the women involved). It wasn't limited to Europe, as also changes happened in Asia and Africa. SusunW (talk) 17:19, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

November 2019[edit]

Annual event: Geofocus: Wiki Asia Month[edit]

  • May: November: Asian Heritage Month. Mkdw talk 19:03, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
  • moved to November as in the wiki movement, WikiAsiaMonth is historically celebrated in November. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Librarians, archivists, libraries, archives[edit]

I know we've done women's organizations in the past, but I keep running across archives of women's materials like the Gerritsen Collection, the National Archives for Black Women's History, etc. Not sure if it is possible to generate a Wikidata list, but this could be helpful. I notice some of these have articles about the "host" of the collections, but do not mention their archival records. So there are opportunities to upgrade other existing articles. In the event that the list of actual archives is short, it seemed logical to pair with librarians. Perhaps Megalibrarygirl has other sources that could expand the list of archival facilities? SusunW (talk) 18:50, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

I can look into archives. I have an archivist friend who might be able to help me out, SusunW. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:16, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Leadership[edit]

@Rosiestep, SusunW, Megalibrarygirl, Victuallers, Tagishsimon, and Penny Richards: From our Redlist on Leadership, it looks as if we have lots of opportunities for new articles. Maybe we could also address leaders in business, finance and politics. How about picking out names from Category:Awards honoring women? Any ideas of how we could develop appropriate Wikidata lists in this connection? I see Wikidata has "leader" (Q1251441).--Ipigott (talk) 11:46, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

We could definitely use a "Wikidata leaders redlist", to include "leader" (Q1251441), as well as: director (Q1162163), military officer (Q189290), chief executive officer (Q484876), etc. We should include a clickable button (wikilink) on the "Wikidata leaders redlist" to the "CS leaders redlist" and the "Wikidata politicians redlist". --Rosiestep (talk) 12:18, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
I love this topic, Ipigott. And while we're speaking of lists is there a way to sort Wikidata for feminist archives and libraries? SusunW (talk) 14:56, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Maybe Tagishsimon can help us make up a list for the archives and libraries. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:33, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Firming up for November[edit]

* Librarians: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/141
** Template:WIR-141: {{WIR-141}}
* Leaders: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/142
** Template:WIR-142: {{WIR-142}}
* Geofocus Asian women: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/143
** Template:WIR-143: {{WIR-143}}
* Invite: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2019#November 2019

Time keeps marching on and we now need to prepare urgently for November. I'm not at all sure how to handle Wiki Asia Month. Perhaps a simple link would be the easiest solution. In past years, Rosiestep has been closely involved in this but it may be easier just to encourage people to sign up directly. Otherwise, in addition to librarians/archivists and leaders, I suppose we just continue with the stub contest, #1day1woman and suffrage. I must say I'm a bit fed up at the moment as I have been wasting lots of time on re-creating deleted articles. So any help would be appreciated, e.g. from Megalibrarygirl on stub contest awards (but if you're too busy I think I can probably adapt past awards without too much trouble myself) and Wikidata lists on leaders and librarians/archivists if Tagishsimon thinks it's worthwhile. If not, we'll try to make do with what we have.--Ipigott (talk) 16:04, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

So sorry Ipigott I am not much help with technical things and have just arrived back "in country" having had to travel on urgent personal business. If there is something I can help you do about recreating articles, I will try, but I do not know how to do any of the other prep work. SusunW (talk) 17:10, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, SusunW, I really don't need any help with re-creating articles although I do find it a complete waste of time. The editors who have had their articles deleted obviously wanted to contribute to women's coverage until they ran into difficulties. I think I can take care of things over the next few days but I am increasingly concerned with the lack of interest from our leading admins.--Ipigott (talk) 17:49, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Sorry for being quiet lately; I'm at Berlin airport now, headed back home. There was lots of #wikilove for Women in Red at Wikidatacon. Very happy to see how the global movement views our work with such high regard. Regarding Wiki Asia Month, I would recommend that we have an event page to include redlists for Asian countries. Also, I think we need to encourage more editors on the main WiR talkpage to be involved with administrative tasks. I'd be glad to create the November Invite and do the MassMessaging if someone will ping me. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:32, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep: Glad to hear things went well in Berlin. Perhaps you could create the Wiki Asia Month page based on Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/100. I seem to remember we handled it differently before 2018 but I can't see anything in the WiR template. I have a feeling someone needs to coordinate work on the EN wiki. If we call Asia Month #143, I'll make a start today or tomorrow on Librarians #141 and Leaders #142. Thanks for inviting others to help out. Let's see if there are any volunteers. As for the stub contest, I'm rather pleased to see how it has been progressing. Despite one or two objections to the format over the first couple of days, everyone now seems to have adapted to the system. The layout makes it very easy for me to tot up the contributions from each user; the way it's set up, there is no doubt about who has participated. I therefore suggest we continue along the same lines in November.--Ipigott (talk) 11:22, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott: I'll try to get something done today for the award. My personal life has been pretty crazy and cutting into Wiki time (mostly I'm dealing with two teenaged kids who need a lot of help in school -- so nothing bad!) I didn't know about anyone having their stubs deleted. What happened? Sorry for being out of the loop. :( Megalibrarygirl (talk) 15:17, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Megalibrarygirl: Understand your problem. We have an 18-year-old grandson living with us but he's generally no trouble. For the deletions, see the WiR talk page: "Disappearing articles". Looks like over 1,000 women's biographies have gone because of a sock problem. Huge job to rewrite them. From the ones I've been working on, it looks as if many of them were about really important women and their works. Extremely frustrating. On the contest awards, I thought perhaps we could build on Template:10 new biographies:Women in Red August 2018 achievements, Template:Participant:Women in Red August 2018 achievements, etc. I think it's important that winners should be able to include boxes on their user pages.--Ipigott (talk) 15:50, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott: I've started on the Wiki Asia Month page (Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/143) but now have to board my next flight. Will finish the page tomorrow. NOTE: power outage in my city due to California fires. So delay is possibke/likely. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:59, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
I think #143 is pretty much ready now, but of course, additional eyes are welcome. Next, I'll get started on the Invite. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:06, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott, Megalibrarygirl, SusunW, Victuallers, and Tagishsimon: I am back home and no fire danger here. I think #143 is pretty much ready now, but of course, additional eyes are welcome. Invite is done, too, but please review to make sure there are no mistakes (and fix mistakes if you spot them!). I can MassMessage today once everything is ready; please ping me. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:19, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep at the bottom of 141 and 142 the "Editathon banner for talk pages: Template:WIR-141: " is red. Does that mean neither template was created or something? SusunW (talk) 14:10, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Ipigott. I am not good at fixing stuff, but am pretty good at evaluating what may need to be fixed :) . SusunW (talk) 15:21, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks SusunW. I actually did not see your message until after I had created the templates. I usually leave them to the end as they will probably not be used until the first articles are added at the beginning of the month. But it's good to see there's someone keeping an eye on what we do. I'm pleased to see we have a redlink lists for librarians. Maybe you can add to it. Or suggest other sources.--Ipigott (talk) 17:48, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

December 2019[edit]

Annual event: Women who died in 2019[edit]

December would be a good month to create articles for women who passed away that year. It would help the media create year-end lists of notable women as well as using media's lists to create articles. A Wikidata search could be created for either the year or the past 12 months. Some tools have been made for indexing obits.[2] This topic reduces WP:BLP issues. It could be an annual editathon. It could also be extended into January or just the usual extension of most events. StrayBolt (talk) 17:20, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

I like this idea for December. Penny Richards (talk) 15:13, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
That;d be an interesting way to cap off the year. I like this idea! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:05, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Geofocus options[edit]

Antarctica

Antarctica maybe? or both the poles? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:44, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

I like that. End of the earth kind of goes along with end of the year. SusunW (talk) 17:51, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Are there enough women connected to Antarctica alone to be worth it? I'd imagine it'd be mostly research scientists and maybe a couple explorers, which I'd be surprised if it was more than a few dozen, and not every one may have enough material for a decent article. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.8% of all FPs 00:08, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
For our December event, I like (a) both of the poles (Arctic/Antartica) and (b) SusunW's train of thought, "End of the earth kind of goes along with end of the year". --Rosiestep (talk) 22:43, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
I like this idea! --Yupik (talk) -23:21, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Arabian countries

Arabian Countries? What do you think if we make this time it is dedicated to the women of the Arab and Islamic countries? We all know that the feminist movement is very necessary in thos countries.--Alsoriano97 (talk) 15:35, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Underrepresented countries proportional to population

We could pick countries with lowest number of women biographies proportional to population. This Wikidata query lists countries by number of biographies of women born in the last 100 years proportional to population. Top 20 are Democratic Republic of the Congo, South Sudan, Sudan, Yemen, Chad, Mozambique, Laos, Madagascar, Myanmar, Guinea, Niger, Malawi, Bangladesh, Burkina Faso, Ethiopia, Saudi Arabia, China, Tanzania, Benin and Oman. --MarioGom (talk) 14:51, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Updated top 20: Democratic Republic of the Congo, South Sudan, Sudan, Yemen, Chad, Mozambique, Madagascar, Guinea, Myanmar, Malawi, Niger, Bangladesh, Laos, Burkina Faso, Saudi Arabia, Ethiopia, China, Tanzania, Benin and Indonesia. --MarioGom (talk) 22:48, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Great idea, though may be a bit of a challenge! PamD 15:27, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
@MarioGom and PamD:, I was thinking this might be a good one for February 2020, as Feb has the fewest days in the year (e.g. proportional to the other months). --Rosiestep (talk) 23:04, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Bashkortostan

We do not have a lot of coverage for topics about the women in Bashkortostan AND the they've launched a Wiki-Babushka project recently. There's a lot of material on the Bashkir and Russian Wikipedias to get started with, but I'm not sure how much of this is about women (I'm creating a table as we speak). If this topic is too narrow, we could expand it to cover Republics of Russia or the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization. -Yupik (talk) 21:21, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Yupik, we've never done a geo-event as narrow as one state within a country, or even just one country. Perhaps Russia + countries of the former Soviet Union would make sense (e.g. repeat the June 2018 event Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/82, in June 2020)? Also, it's hard to believe that there are <1,000 names on this list, Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by nationality/Russia. Can you sort out if any are from Bashkortostan? --Rosiestep (talk) 23:04, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep. Sounds like a good idea to expand it. I was going quickly through some of the categories on the Bashkir and Russian Wikipedias, but got sidetracked, sorry. Here are the two tables I did for Bashkir writers, poets, and translators: meta:User:Yupik/Bashkirs2 and meta:User:Yupik/Bashkirs2. There are around 120 women on these lists, although not all of them are accurately marked in Wikidata, so there are actually more. One issue that I ran across is that WP:RUS is not very useful for languages other than Russian, so we'd have to figure out a way of romanizing the names. -Yupik (talk) 23:21, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Yupik, I like your lists. Yes, Romanizing the names will be a challenge. I can do so relatively-easily from Russian, but not from Bashkir. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:02, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Parliamentarians[edit]

Tying to the year-long 'Focus on Suffrage', 1 December marks the centenary of Nancy Astor taking her seat in the UK House of Commons so perhaps we could look at female parliamentarians worldwide? Moira Paul (talk) 23:54, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

I've started looking into this to see if there are redlinks to find. I suspect this ties to the wider comment elsewhere about structure of pages around suffrage as there isn't an obvious single source. However, List of the first women holders of political offices in Asia illustrates that there are names to start pulling together from these partial lists alone. ETA: First female parliamentarians does not exist as a topic or a list. Moira Paul (talk) 17:37, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Moira Paul, Category:Lists of the first female holders of political offices, though not a collection of redlists, shows the scope of what's been covered and might be helpful to you, if you haven't already explored it. Oronsay (talk) 19:37, 28 December 2018 (UTC) In local government, there are lots of redlisted women mayors on List of first women mayors. Oronsay (talk) 19:40, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
+1 There are a lot of articles to be created here. We could rely on lists such as Spain 1977-present (eswiki) or National Assembly (Nepal). I think some form of list exists for most countries, either in English Wikipedia or other languages. --MarioGom (talk) 13:32, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
We'll need help with creating a Wikidata list of members of parliaments. Tagishsimon, can you help with this, or I can ask someone on the Wikidata Telegram list if you're busy with other things. For clarification, @Moira Paul and Oronsay: are you suggesting that we change the event scope from Parliamentarians to Politicians, which would include Parliamentarians plus e.g. mayors, Minister of..., etc.? --Rosiestep (talk) 22:36, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

2020 year-long initiative[edit]

I would also like to recommend that Sports be our year-long initiative in 2020 for these reasons: --Rosiestep (talk) 15:28, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

  • It will support the Summer Olympics.
  • I think it will attract a lot of new editors to our project.
  • I think this will improve our metrics.
  • I think other languages will be glad to join in the efforts (vs. not so much with our 2019 focus on suffrage).

January 2020[edit]

Geofocus[edit]

Connecticut
I normally don't post here, but I would really like to see a partnership with WP:CONN and do a geofocus for the Constitution state. We're missing some pretty important articles like Governorship of Ella Grasso, League of Women Voters of Connecticut, Roberta Willis Scholarship, General Federation of Women's Clubs of Connecticut. We also have several women elected to statewide office still without coverage(!). Then you have some really important articles that need expansion like: Roberta Willis. I compiled a list of redlinks here. Would anyone be interested in this event? –MJLTalk 17:47, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Doesn't seem appropriate as an idea for a whole WiR monthly topic - one can hardly argue that American women, from any state, are under-represented relative to most other countries of the world. PamD 15:29, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
@PamD: I'm more concerned that Connecticut women leaders have not received any appropriate amount of coverage. We have had 8 women elected to statewide office still without articles (not to mention Ella Grasso's tenure as Governor- the first woman elected governor in her own right) Face-sad.svgMJLTalk 16:46, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
@MJL: I suspect there are entire countries of which the same could be said! By all means ask on the WiR talk page for a bit of support in getting articles written for the ladies of Connecticut, but I really don't think that one US state is an appropriate Geofocus for the whole of WiR for a month. PamD 16:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Activists[edit]

For consideration as per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red#Participate in #WikiForHumanRights. Note, though, that Activists will also be on our March schedule as once again, we'll be the online node of A+F whose scope in 2020 is Artists+Activists. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:46, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Classical music[edit]

Isn't it about time we focused on classical music with a special emphasis on musicians? There must be hundreds of notable individual performers and members of orchestras or smaller groups who deserve to be covered. We could also try to extend coverage of women playing different instruments: piano, violin, cello, viola, harp, flute, recorder, oboe, clarinet, organ, trumpet, saxophone, trombone, trumpet, guitar... We could also include vocalists, choirs, etc. Lots of room for new Wikidata lists as well as crowd-sourced. Gerda Arendt may have some ideas about this.--Ipigott (talk) 15:02, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

We don't have Women's choir and Girls' choir, to begin with. There are wonderful women conductors around. On the day of St. Cecilia, patron saint of music. DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Women in the public domain 2020[edit]

Hey! I've created some queries for the women that are entering in the public domain this year:

I'm still missing the queries for Oceania/Africa/MENA.

I've created this queries calculating +70 postmortem, even when some countries have +50 postmortem, just to avoid adding a lot of complexity.

A bit of explanation on the idea behind this event: the Berne Convention establishes that authors enter the public domain on the following January 1st a year after +50/+70 years of their death, as to avoid complexity in terms of figuring out the exact month in which a certain author died. Open knowledge activists have created the "public domain day" as a way to celebrate the fact that different authors enter the public domain on that date. I think the WikiProject Sum of All Paintings was considering to do something for the Public Domain Day, and there are several events happening in that month to celebrate, so it might be a good opportunity to also work in the topic of women but in connection with others.

I think it's also a good opportunity to higlight female artists entering into the public domain this year, but also to call the attention for more coverage of women on Wikidata. As you can see, the lists aren't very large, and I think the reason for that is not because there aren't that many women creators who are entering the public domain this year, but rather because they're not yet on Wikidata.

The event could run until the end of January.

Would love to hear your thoughts! Scann (talk) 18:28, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

February 2020[edit]

Annual event
Black History Month
Women in Horror

This takes place in February. web link, twitter link. There are various film festivals (eg Dublin) and publications which support this so women who work in the genre in film, writing etc would qualify for articles on this at this time ☕ Antiqueight chatter 08:08, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

March 2020[edit]

Annual event
Art+Feminism

April 2020[edit]

Annual event
Gender Studies
Ballet, Concert dance, Performance dance

It has been noted that we are missing many topics on Ballet, Concert dance, Performance dance etc. I want to put it in for next year but I thought I'd ask for input here first. See if anyone has any suggestions or ideas about it. I haven't looked to see what is in Wikidata etc. ☕ Antiqueight chatter 13:20, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

We had a WIR Dance editathon in July 2017, but we could certainly use another! Penny Richards (talk) 14:07, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
We also need set designers and costume designers for all performances, not just dance performances. Jane (talk) 17:37, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
Antiqueight I see that someone has put it on for April 2020 and suggest you move this discussion up there so we don't end up with it scheduled twice, or worse, missed. I'd certainly support it. SusunW (talk) 20:42, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
SusunW - that was me, I thought it hadn't saved and decided to ask here instead - but apparently it did save.. I've moved it up now.. ☕ Antiqueight chatter

May 2020[edit]

Annual event
Geofocus: CEE

June 2020[edit]

Annual event
Pride
United Nations

The United Nations was chartered on 26 June 1945, 75 years ago. I estimate that there are hundreds of notable women who have worked or are currenly working for the UN and all its the sub-organizations.

July 2020[edit]

August 2020[edit]

Annual event
Indigenous women
  • Summer Paralympics will be held from 25 August to 6 September - Simeon (talk) 18:49, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

September 2020[edit]

Annual event
Writers

Oct 2020[edit]

Annual event
Scientists/STEM
Black History Month UK

Nov 2020[edit]

Annual event
Geofocus: Wiki Asia Month

Dec 2020[edit]

Annual event
Women who died in 2020

Discuss other ideas here[edit]

A is for "A start"[edit]

Just before we started Women in Red I completed (after work of lots of others) in writing a biography of every woman in the Dictionary of National Biography. This meant that any (UK related) women who was recognised as notable before about 1900 was in Wikipedia. Obviously the DNB did not stop there and the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography took over. That has LOTS more women - so what to do? I set out to do every women in the ODNB whose first name began with an A. I think I have made quite a dent in it. Look here or here. My suggestion is that we have a go at picking off all the women whose name begins with A (or alpha if she is ancient Greek) in any country. Our progress will demonstrate the size of the problem of doing all ~26 letters- Victuallers (talk) 09:44, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

@Victuallers: Would this just be ODNB related or any woman whose first name starts with name? For the ODNB list, there are currently just over 100 A first named women left (not bad). --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:11, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
@MrLinkinPark33: I was proposing women whose name begins with A (or alpha if she is ancient Greek) in any country. I imagined that we might be able to finish the UK and start on other countries. A demonstration of the fact that writing wiki biogs for women in just one country for just one letter is a large task. I see some arguing that the 83% blokes on wiki is because women are prevented from having wikiarticles because of notability rules or lack of written sources. These are problems, BUT they are not stopping us from adding thousands of more articles to fix the gap. Oh and thanks for your work and for noticing its just over 100 - do you have a more accurate list? Cheers Roger aka Victuallers (talk) 11:03, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
@Victuallers: Didn't get the above ping so I just saw it now. I only counted the people starting with A in the above ODNB link you mentioned. I can't confirm whether it is 100+ or not (since I don't write articles on ODNB people). Starting with A (in general) would be nice as it reminds me of the Countries starting with I contest we did last year. Also provides 2 years of contest material if we did one letter per month (see @SusunW:'s idea below) :) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:14, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Twitter mates[edit]

We have monthly editathons now running in Edinburgh which are mainly in person. Ewan is one of the Wikimedians in Residence and they are very successful - They are badges as WiR - great!. A similar series is starting in Swansea. Last month they did nurses and this month business people. They want to be a "women in red" event. I will see if we can harmonise subjects. This is for info only I guess but is there a good place to log in-house events ? Victuallers (talk) 14:01, 19 January 2018 (UTC) p.s. I see WiR is getting mentioned by name in French! Femmes Rouge Wikipedia Victuallers (talk) 14:01, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Victuallers - I think it would be great to include in-person Women in Red events in our list here: [[Template:Women in Red]]. To that end, I just added a line for in-person events in the 2018 section. Please add whatever events you're aware of... and 2017 events, too. After you get the ball rolling, we should mention it on the main WiR talkpage so that others know to do so, too. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:21, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Update - still running. The next one is on August 16th at Edinburgh Uni Library. Victuallers (talk) 09:55, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Femicon Museum[edit]

See this tweet conversation Victuallers (talk) 09:22, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

This seems cool, Victuallers, and we haven't touched this focus area before; did you reply to her? Maybe we could start an email convo with a few of us? Hey, Megalibrarygirl, I looked over the website, and wondered how easy it might be to create a redlist for this focus area, "femininity, girlhood, and the aesthetics of cute within twentieth-century video games, computing, and electronic toys"? --Rosiestep (talk) 18:55, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
I think I could try to create a redlist based on the Femicom collection. Will start. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:09, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
@Victuallers and Rosiestep: Here's a start-up redlist: Femicom Museum Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:13, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Megalibrarygirl; mega cool... mega thanks! --Rosiestep (talk) 23:38, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
I invited her to post here. I'm not sure how big the museum is and we would need her or one of us to take the lead. Its not a subject I know anything about - but I can see that its an important area. Big thanks to MLG - do feel free to tweet her. Victuallers (talk) 06:52, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Trading article ideas[edit]

I was wondering if anyone would be interested in trading names of women with others who are interested in creating articles on specific topics. For example, I have many names of American women who have won prizes or been inducted into hall of fames. That way, our lists on Wikipedia and our personal lists could hopefully be reduced and we get to work on articles that are in our interests that we might not have come across already. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 05:50, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

I'd be interested in adding lists that others have created (such as yours) into the Women in Red redlist collection. Let me know if this interests you? This is because it is my hope that Women in Red is as well known for its redlists as for its created articles. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:26, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
@Rosiestep: That would be perfect. It'd help reduce the amount of people on my to-do lists and give them out to others who want to work on them. I already moved my first one here but I'm thinking on making another one on women who were/are United Nations Special Rapporteurs as that list is huge. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:29, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
That's awesome, MrLinkinPark333. Also pinging Megalibrarygirl who is really good with to-do list ideas! --Rosiestep (talk) 21:52, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Just finished Rosiestep Megalibrarygirl. See here for the United Nations redlist. There are also women in United Nations working groups but I haven't included them in this list. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:20, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Sweet! Thanks for taking the iniative, MrLinkinPark333! I hope everyone feels comfortable adding to our lists, but if you don't, ping me. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 01:03, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Geofocus[edit]

Seems to me that we tend to focus on the same areas over and over and I am wondering if we just did a straight alphabetical list of countries each month, if that would get more coverage of women worldwide. So for example "A" would have lists from: Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, American Samoa, Andorra, Angola, Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Aruba, Australia, Austria, and Azerbaijan; "B" would have Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belgium, Belize, Benin, Bermuda, Bhutan, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso and Burundi; and so forth. SusunW (talk) 20:09, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

@SusunW: That would be interesting. The geofocus would be filled for almost 2 years before the list would be repeated :) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:54, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
I like this a lot. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:48, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Did we decide to do this? It does seem like a sensible idea ☕ Antiqueight chatter 13:17, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
We did "I" a while back. Nice idea to do all 26 but ... Some letters don't have any or many countries: see List of sovereign states. Three for F and for J, only one O, one Q, no W or X, one Y, two Zs. PamD 15:40, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

How about a by-latitude split? Countries between perhaps equator and Tropic of Cancer, then Capricorn; countries of latitute from Tropic of Cancer north to x, then north of x, similarly for south. Or some such - sweeping across all the continents. Need to adjust the bands to make very roughly similar sizes, and perhaps accept that some countries are in more than one zone - a pity that the List of sovereign states mentioned above doesn't have a field for coordinates! PamD

Just found List of countries by northernmost point and List of countries by southernmost point - astonishingly few countries with northernmost point south of tropic of Capricorn...perhaps southernmost points gives a broader spread somehow! A fascinating pair of lists, anyway. PamD 15:50, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Filling out lists[edit]

A suggestion of something a little different, maybe? We have a whole lot of lists that are partially filled out with articles - various women's halls of fame, for instance, or the list of National Heritage Fellowship recipients. Many of the by-year lists of Guggenheim Fellows as well. What about a month where we pick one or two of these lists and look at filling in all the redlinks? That would give us a nice filled-out list at the end of the month. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:05, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: Funnily, I was thinking of creating a list of Guggenheim Fellows names as the recipents are automatically notable as per WP:NACADEMIC Criteria #2. That'd help boost up the percentage without worrying about notability :) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 17:39, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
@MrLinkinPark333: As would the National Heritage Fellows...and those have the advantage of being sourceable to the NEA's website. Which means that their biographies there are in the public domain...if we wanted to we could crank out the articles pretty quickly thanks to that. :-) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:48, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: In that case, I think the National Heritage Fellows would be easier to complete as the Guggenheim Fellows does not have a lot of info on each recipient, just the notability. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 17:51, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
@MrLinkinPark333: No reason we couldn't suggest both for different months. :-) I'm not sure this would be a monthly challenge, necessarily...but bimonthly or trimonthly, perhaps. Besides, getting all of the Guggenheim Fellows in one go would be a bit of a tall order. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:59, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: Yep, that's why I didn't press on having them done first, because there is so many of them :/ However, I'm making a different list of names that are presumed notable based on individual criterias instead. ;) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:05, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
@MrLinkinPark333: What about other fellowships/awards? How about the Rome Prize, for instance - does that convey automatic notability? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:45, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: That specific prize I do not know if it passes WP:ARTIST or WP:ANYBIO. As for other fellowships, Criteria 1-3 and their respective notes of WP:NACADEMIC are the ones I see for fellowhips. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:51, 24 September 2018 (UTC)


Variations on Monthly Achievement Initiative[edit]

Given the current interest in this initiative (around 575 articles added by 29 August), it might be interesting to change the targets for the coming months. For October, we might for example call for articles on women from 31 predefined countries, one for each day of the month. We could list the countries beforehand, drawing on our redlists (but perhaps leaving out those without at least 20 redlinks). We could allow a maximum of three days for each country, e.g. 1 to 3 October: Albania, 2 to 4 October: Algeria, 3 to 5 October: Angola, 4 to 6 October: Argentina, etc. Participants could list their articles both under the countries and under their own user names, giving a clearer view of achievements. Then in November, we could do something similar with occupations. Would this be worthwhile or should we just continue using the August/September model? Personally, I think variations might attract additional interest. Other suggestions for variations would of course be welcome.--Ipigott (talk) 08:57, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Pinging Rosiestep, Victuallers, Megalibrarygirl, SusunW, Antiqueight, Abishe, Nick Number, cbratbyrudd, Stuartyeates, Alanna the Brave for reactions or other suggestions.--Ipigott (talk) 17:39, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Glad to hear there's been lots of interest, Ipigott. My thoughts: I like the idea of variations on topics each month (either nationality or occupation), but I'd be wary of making it too complicated for participants. I usually have to do some preparatory research before creating an article (which may take several days depending on how busy I am), and I don't want to have to try to remember whether I can submit an article about an Algerian woman on October 4th or an Argentinian woman on October 6th. On the other hand, I might be open to having broader weekly themes: during week 1, we write about women from western European countries, then for week 2 we write about women from Middle Eastern countries (or it could be women scientists or artists, etc.). Alanna the Brave (talk) 18:00, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
I kind of feel I should recuse myself from giving suggestions, as both this month and next my real world life is impacting my editing time. That being said, I like the idea of variations, but agree with Alanna the Brave that it needs to be simple to follow or we will end up discouraging editing. Congrats on the success. 575 articles is awesome! SusunW (talk) 18:08, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
@Ipigott: I think having a broad area of occupations/countries would work better (in my personal case). Maybe have special awards that says, for example Wikipedian who created the most (specific occupation) this month, or the most articles from (specific country, area). That way if people want the special awards, they can go for it while keeping the broad range of coverage for others who just want the 5, 10, 15 articles etc. barnstars. This monthly imitative helped me clear through some articles that I wanted to do, but didn't get around to start/finish them :) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:53, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
As a relative newcomer to WiR I feel that the new monthly initiative is a great place to record and celebrate all the WiR articles written in a given month, i.e. from the monthly meetups and the #1day1woman ongoing. I find that most of my articles end up in #1day1woman as I don't want to hold them up waiting for a specific meetup to come along. My preference is that the whole recording system not become over-complicated. Oronsay (talk) 02:26, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
My thirty-ish contributions only accidentally in the list, it was work I was doing anyway, but this stretch got done quicker with this extra motivation. Stuartyeates (talk) 07:04, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the comments so far. I can see the simplicity of the current approach is appealing. It therefore looks as if any variations should be "additional extras" rather than a complete revamp. Let's see how we do in September.--Ipigott (talk) 14:58, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
I echo those who suggest we keep it simple. There are many contributions to the #1day1woman page which are currently also eligible for the Monthly Achievement Initiative, meaning articles from any country and any occupation. Requiring articles fit a certain geographical or occupational category during a short window of time will limit participation in the initiative, and might be discouraging to our membership base who will see it as more of a competition. If the initiative is all about increasing participation and increasing metrics, I'd vote to not change the current model. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:27, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Ipigott I'm not very creative in brainstorming ways to get people to participate, but I do want to help you keep the work load at something you can handle. If that means wikignoming a lot, that's fine. Just keep me posted. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:26, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Could you review my submission, I was getting negative feedback about submitting Jenny L. Davis, a linguist and social activist because she is 'merely' an assistant professor who speaks a indigenous tongue and is attempting to revive it. CaptJayRuffins (talk) 00:12, 6 February 2019 (UTC)