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Latvia–Malaysia relations[edit]

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fails WP:GNG. 8 of the 10 sources are primary. Neither country has ambassadors, nor significant trade, nor have there been any state visits ever. I searched Latvia's largest newspaper and all it had was small mentions or covering the MH370 disaster. [1]. LibStar (talk) 07:13, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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The result was speedy keep. North America1000 07:47, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Farhan Ali Waris[edit]

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fails to pass basic WP:GNG. Saqib (talk) 06:53, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

This nom made by mistake. should be closed. --Saqib (talk) 06:55, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
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Sanath Sivaraj[edit]

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An article on the same subject was deleted at AfD last month. This one is sufficiently different to avoid G4 speedy deletion but the subject is still not notable, and if deleted I would suggest salting. Michig (talk) 06:21, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete and salt: An Indian media search found a passing mention of the subject editing a short Youtube film: [2] but that is far too slight to support WP:FILMMAKER notability. No reason to overturn the July 2017 AfD consensus. AllyD (talk) 07:39, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Shendi Ashraful Ulum Hafizia Madrasa[edit]

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This article lacks reliable sources so everything said in the article now is just a claim. This location can be searched from Google Maps, but other than a phone number there is nothing else--not even a detailed address, nor an official website. A regular Google search turns out mainly phone books, no detailed introduction or any introduction at all, nor does any news report this institution, so this article doesn't look conforming to WP:GNG to me. -★- PlyrStar93. Message me. 🖉 05:55, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Delete Unless some sources establishing any notability whatsoever can be produced, I'm not sure how it can be kept. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 06:13, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Elo hell[edit]

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There is an article about this on Know Your Meme, the League of Legends Wikia and Urban Dictionary. I would recommend that it remains in those places. I wouldn't have a problem redirecting to LoL's article, but this appears to be WP:NEO, and WP is not a dictionary, especially for niche gaming terms. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 05:28, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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Elma S. Beganovich[edit]

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Non-notable individual lacking in-depth, non-trivial support. Fails to establish notability. reddogsix (talk) 05:17, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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Marcia-Elizabeth Christian Favale[edit]

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Non-notable run-of-the-mill businesswoman. Google search does not find independent in-depth coverage of her. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:37, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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Omm'A Givens[edit]

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Article subject hasn't met notability guidelines since 1995, years before Wikipedia was created. Nothing new or notable about article subject anywhere since the 1995 championship season. Seems to soundly fail to meet WP:GNG. -- ψλ 04:27, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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AFC 133[edit]

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This is an event for a minor MMA promotion. Events for promotions like Belator do not have individual articles. Fbdave (talk) 04:01, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Comment It seems we barely have an article for Alaska Fighting Championship, just created. There isn't a huge amount of coverage for it but seems like it might have enough to qualify for an article however. I might add the sources I found to that stub of an article. Short mentions of upcoming tournaments obviously belong at that article. I'd suggest a redirect, but since the title of the AfD article is an acronym and not the full Alaska Fighting Championship 2017 name, I'm not sure. To begin with that's what the title of this article should really have been. Mr. Magoo (talk) 05:35, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Beeson Carroll[edit]

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Delete: non-notable actor. Quis separabit? 03:11, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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Delete - one of the references listed is a google image search results page. His claimed notability is based on MASH, in which he appeared in a single episode. Half of the article is explaining why he wasn't on more than one. Sorry Beeson. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 05:41, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Automatic Tour[edit]

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No idea what this tour is about, I can't find any sources about it. Content previously appeared under the title Automatic World Tour which was under AfD but blanked by article creator. ... discospinster talk 02:53, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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Deborah Yarchun[edit]

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I can't find significant discussion of the individual in reliable sources. Google search results in mainly event notifications and passing mentions. Contested prod.... discospinster talk 02:51, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete: as non-notable. Google search turned up slim pickings. Quis separabit? 03:14, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
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Reactions to the 2016 Lahore suicide bombing[edit]

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Wikipedia is not an WP:INDISCRIMINATE collection of information. These quotes, which basically say "I condemn this attack and I offer my sincere condolences", from world leaders or notable figures, are not connected in any way other than by the incident. However, notability is not inherited, and there is no encyclopedic value in keeping a list of quotes that are already sufficiently summarized in the main article itself. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:55, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

  • Supports the main article? What does that even mean Tetizeraz? There is nothing encyclopedic about a list of quotes pretty much repeating each other. Here is a fragment of the main article: "The bombing was condemned and condolences were offered by the leaders and spokespeople of many countries". It summarized dozens of these quotes effectively in one sentence.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 04:05, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
These reactions, made by the embassies of many countries, are pretty common. That's why I'm suggesting that it should, after the very least, be merged with the main article about the bombings. User:Tetizeraz. Send me a ✉️ ! 04:16, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
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  • Delete per nom. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:35, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
  • ' ' 'Merge' ' ' with article on 2016 Lahore bombing. Vorbee (talk) 09:24, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Mathcha[edit]

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Non-notable software. It is hard even to find it by Google search, although documentation does exist on YouTube. (Google search also finds a captcha package with the same name, also non-notable.) No third-party discussion. Robert McClenon (talk) 12:22, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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Keep! Is any thing that is written on this article is consider wrong? If it is a potential website that actually worthy to take a look by the community? We all know that we don't have a strong WYSIWYG math editor compared to TeX and it is not easy to type math online without learning TeX. Not like other services, software can prove itself worthy or not by normal people, you can not cheat if it is bad software. For example, Does Mathcha consider a strong and best WYSIWYG math editor? Give it a chance before you remove this article for non-notable software that still not exist on google search because it is too new? We don't judge a software by google engine right? If anyone can prove this software is useless - Please feel free to prove it here.

  • Take a look at this wiki post Ket_(software), please explain how a page can improve better than quickly decide to remove it permanently.
  • Also see on TeX Stack to understand more.
  • Also see on Hacker News Hacker News — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thamtudethuong (talkcontribs) 07:22, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Must know the difference between TeX compile online tool and WYSIWYG math editor (We almost don't have good WYSIWYG math editor)

Following i will quote wiki policy:wiki policy

  • It is better to improve an article than to delete it for not being good enough.
  • An article that looks inappropriate may simply have been tampered with; you can fix this by reverting it to the better, previous version.
  • If the article duplicates another, you can redirect it to the other one; there's no need for it to be deleted first.
  • It's polite to let the article's author know that you are asking for it to be deleted; you can find them in the page history.

Thamtudethuong (talk) 09:27, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

@Thamtudethuong: This essay explains core problem of the article: WP:TOOSOON. Pavlor (talk) 08:36, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
@Pavlor: Agree! It is so true soon+non-notable..., but still consider worthy of notice, so please reconsider base on other factors, if anyone really want to delete it, I accept without debating (That is why our opinions is more than rules, why we have this page for deciding) Thamtudethuong (talk) 09:26, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
@Thamtudethuong: One of Wikipedia's core tenets is Notability. As there is no coverage of Mathcha, sadly it can't really have an article. But you can think of it as of yet, that maybe it can have an article in the future once coverage has been attained. Mr. Magoo (talk) 01:57, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
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  • Delete Sorry to the developers, but no coverage to be found. Mr. Magoo (talk) 01:57, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete: A WP:SPA article on a new software item. Regarding the comments above, whether something is worthy or useful is not the issue here. As it is, there is no substantial 3rd party coverage which can demonstrate it to meet WP:NSOFT or WP:GNG. AllyD (talk) 07:49, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Project Peshawar[edit]

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See film notability guidelines. Unreleased films are only notable if the production itself is notable, and there is no mention of independent coverage of the production. In the absence of coverage of the production, this article can be viewed as promotional. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:45, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Comment - this film has not been released yet, but very soon will be. Would it not be sensible to have an article on this film after the film has been released?Vorbee (talk) 09:31, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Fritz Lüddecke[edit]

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Does not meet WP:SOLDIER & significant RS coverage not found link, just passing mentions. No de.wiki article exists. Did not hold a significant command and topped out as Oberfeldwebel. Successful completion of missions (sorties flown, # of enemy aircraft shot down, etc) is not part of SOLDIER.

Per the outcome of the discussion at WP:Notability (people): Redirect proposal for Knight's Cross winners, certain recipients were deemed non notable and SOLDIER has been modified accordingly: diff. The articles of these recipients are being redirected to alphabetical lists.

In this case, the redirect was contested on the grounds that the subject was a "notable ace". However, the "ace" status does not appear in notability guidelines. A related RfC that sought to add aces to the SOLDIER essay closed without reaching consensus for the change:

Due to lack of sources that discuss the subject directly and in detail, I'm proposing either a "Delete" or a "Redirect to to List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (L). K.e.coffman (talk) 03:32, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Keep. This a pilot with 51 aircraft kills. To put this number is context a Aviation regiment (Soviet Union) consisted of some 61-63 aircraft. So this pilot took out, by his own hands, almost a regiment sized force. Destroying a regiment clearly meets SOLDIER(4) - Played an important role in a significant military event such as a major battle or campaign. We routinely haves articles on aces with much lower kill counts: List of World War II flying aces, List of Korean War flying aces, List of Vietnam War flying aces. Receiving a "Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross" might not confer notability in and of itself, but it does not confer non-notability (As a medal close to the highest-tier (in this case previously contested) it is not enough by itself, but it a supporting indication - just like the Navy Cross). Going out of WP:SOLDIER (which is an essay), we have WP:GNG, and in the case - +"Fritz Lüddecke" luftwaffe appears in approx. 22 (after scrolling down, raw hit count is 152 - 3 pages of results) in google books as may be seen here: google books search - page 3 of results (note there is a post-WWII German Dr. with the same name).Icewhiz (talk) 07:05, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Could you indicated two or three best sources that would help meet GNG? I'm seeing one line results such as in Aces of the Luftwaffe: only one mention in the book. K.e.coffman (talk) 17:22, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
  • The ones I see in google books are all short (however google books does not archive everything, and sometimes doesn't let you see contents at all). However the bibliography in the article cites a few more. The ones I see on google-books are: [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]. Fellgiebel is searchable, but I think Obermaier, Patzwall & Scherzer, Scherzer are not.Icewhiz (talk) 20:35, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
  • These are one line mentions; some merely state that the subject received the Knight's Cross on a particular date. Many trivial mentions don't equate to significant coverage that WP:N requires. Likewise, sources listed in the article are all catalogues of awards winners. Such sources have been specifically rejected during the Knight's Cross discussion that I linked in the nomination. They do not establish notability. For a related discussion, please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karl Henze, which closed as "Delete". K.e.coffman (talk) 21:18, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
  • I admit that current reliable on-line sources are mainly brief (there is more info in non-reliable forums, memorabilia sales, etc.) - though some of them are more than 1-liners (e.g. paragraph and multiple one-liners in a few pages). However not all information is available online (and the articles cites some books which aren't). Henze is different in that he wasn't a fighter ace (or to be precise a deca-Ace - 10 times - with 51 kills) - while a recent RFC on ace notability closed with no-consensus - the bar there was 5 (ace) or maybe 10-15 kills. 51 kills is well above that - and is close to a whole Soviet air regiment.Icewhiz (talk) 05:40, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
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Sunday (1969 film)[edit]

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The subject does not pass our notability criteria, nor it passes WP:NFO. --Mhhossein talk 12:20, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Comment: searching for Sunday Nedjelja Lordan Zafranović in Google Books, there appears to be some relevant results as seen here. Considering that this film predates the Internet and is not in English, we need to make sure we check Croatian-language sources. I'll post a notice at WT:CROATIA. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 13:31, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Erik. --Mhhossein talk 14:13, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep per WP:HEY – I expanded the article somewhat based on sources available online, one being a reprint of a 1968 magazine. Debut film of a highly acclaimed director. There's probably more out there, but as Erik hinted, not much more can be found online. Some sources [11] hint that the film received awards, but exactly which I can't tell. No such user (talk) 15:20, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
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  • Keep per the recent expansion work. There are sources in Google. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:45, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
What are those sources? --Mhhossein talk 08:22, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Comment: I think the subject is not still notable enough considering the the only sources found from an unknown place! I suggest to userify if it can be expanded using RSs. --Mhhossein talk 07:29, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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  • Delete In contrast User:Lugnuts, I see no available sources that indicate notability per NFILMS, GNG, and WP:NFO. According to one source, Zafranovic made this film as a student [12], and it is a debut film. No reason to think a student's film will garner the notice required to pass our notability criteria. There is nothing to indicate this film is a benchmark that is still discussed five years, ten years, and 48 years later (in year 2017) and so fails it fails WP:NFO.Steve Quinn (talk) 02:26, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Barnegat Fund Management[edit]

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Fails to assert corporate notability. It was a spam article but was fixed a while ago leaving virtually no content and no independent, reliable sources. A quick Google search reveals no major reviews. DrStrauss talk 10:15, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Weak Keep This source from 2010 is explicitly about the fund. This is a press release, but the claims that "Barnegat Fund was named to Barron's Top 100 Hedge Funds for the sixth year in a row and is the only fund to receive that honor for the last six consecutive years." and "Currently, Bloomberg ranks the Barnegat Fund as the #1 Fixed-Income Relative-Value hedge fund in the world for the period from 2001 to the present date." are credible claims of notability. There are sources available if one looks for "Barnegat Fund", not just "Barnegat Fund Management" and they can and should be added to the article. Alansohn (talk) 14:31, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
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Warm Mouse[edit]

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No incoming links, seems like more of an advertisement than an informative article. Not a notable device. Jon Kolbert (talk) 20:26, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Administrator note. Previously proposed for deletion and so WP:NOQUORUM does not apply. ~ Rob13Talk 20:29, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
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  • Keep. I hate that cold mouse feeling Theodolite (talk) 03:01, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Munga Mibindo[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG The Banner talk 19:49, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete. Being president of a public utility company is a valid notability claim if it can be reliably sourced to enough media coverage about his work in that role to clear WP:GNG — but it is not an automatic inclusion freebie that entitles him to an article which rests on two glancing namechecks of his existence in coverage of other things. Bearcat (talk) 22:17, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep. It appears non-trivial biographical information (mentions that would support notability) is available here (what appears to be an Afro-centric news website) and here (an economic supplement issue of Jeune Afrique). The table of contents of this French book would seem to suggest that a whole page is devoted to discussing Mibindo. The Quarterly Economic Review issue cited in the article already appears to describe only a statement he issued in pursuance of his duties as president of the parastatal (less helpful for GN). Here it briefly says that he was the chef de cabinet for Prime Minister Kengo wa Dondo (less helpful for GN). This web news article mentions his more recent work in coordinating foreign investment for the construction of a large dam in the Congo. -Indy beetle (talk) 04:45, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
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Parasmaninath Temple[edit]

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Non-notable temple. – Train2104 (t • c) 21:11, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Dear Team,
As per my knowledge and information i have verified from my end that this place is authentic and genuine, i do not know how it went for deletion,Please do the needful. Regards, --PawanJha 09:58, 6 August 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uniquejha (talkcontribs)
  • Weak keep. The subject temple appears to be notable according to my standards: it has a festival program, it is notably large in size and congregation, it is the site of a major pilgrimage, and a significant icon is housed therein. I was able to copy edit the Hinglish (my apologies to any person or deity who may be insulted). The real problem here is sourcing. Can anyone find good English-language sources? Bearian (talk) 13:02, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
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Robert Starke[edit]

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Fails WP:NHOCKEY. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:02, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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Lliam Webster[edit]

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Matthew Ezzy[edit]

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Kakha Ambrolava[edit]

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Fails WP:NHOCKEY. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:14, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete: Fails NHOCKEY, no evidence the subject meets the GNG. Ravenswing 21:18, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
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Giorgi Gigauri[edit]

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Hathazari Degree College[edit]

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Also the following article:

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Non-notable college. It doesn't even have a functioning web site, because its web site contains Lorem ipsum placeholder text. The article, at the time of nomination, consists only of an infobox that links to the dummy web site. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:23, 11 August 2017 (UTC) The following article also consists only of an infobox linking to a non-functional web site. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:36, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete. No evidence whatever of notability. These are two of a series of articles (most of them speedily deleted) created by a single purpose editor about non-notable colleges, all or almost all of them with cloned web sites which are virtually identical and almost all of them containing "lorem ipsum" text on their home pages and empty place holder pages on the rest of their sites. Searches for further information about these colleges in most cases produce large numbers of Facebook pages and little if anything else in the way of significant coverage. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:34, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Also the following article whose web site is in Bengali:

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  • Speedy the above article per G5. Linguist111 18:16, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
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  • Keep The original author was being a jerk, creating a hot mess of extra work for other wikipedians. So I sympathize with a knee-jerk desire to delete. But these are bona fide, bachelor's-degree-granting colleges, and we don't usually delete such institutions. At worst we would redirect as an alternative to deletion.
What Robert McClenon and JamesBWatson have written above is true. These colleges are far from world-class. But bear in mind that as recently as 2008 only 0.4% of the population of Bangladesh used the Internet,[13] and English is not the country's first language. So notable organizations don't always have websites, and it can be difficult to find sources to prove notability. I put a few hours into finding sources, and think the articles are now acceptable stubs. --Worldbruce (talk) 08:55, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep given the WP:V improvements in the current article, therefore the concerns are addressed; while I will say I hardly ever support keeping a banned user's contributions through evasion; but in this case, there can be enough to improve beyond that of G5 (which would need only the 1 user itself, as opposed to other uninvolved users who contributed). SwisterTwister talk 04:56, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
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Mark H. Chilton[edit]

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WP:BLP of a person notable only as mayor of a town not large enough to hand its mayors an automatic presumption of notability per WP:NPOL. He could still qualify for an article if it could be sourced well enough to satisfy the "who have received significant press coverage" part of our criteria for local officeholders, but the only references here are two primary sources and a single "candidate positions on the issues" questionnaire of the type that every candidate in a local election gets -- which means that none of the sources here are building a strong case for inclusion. Also, conflict of interest as the original creator was User:Mark chilton. Bearcat (talk) 17:17, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete. Mayors of cities of this size (20,000 people) are not usually considered to be inherently notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:21, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
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Braxton Lloyd[edit]

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Biography of a person notable only as mayor of a town not large enough to hand its mayors an automatic presumption of notability per WP:NPOL. He could still have an article if it could be sourced well enough to satisfy the "who have received significant press coverage" part of our criteria for local officeholders, but the sources present here aren't showing that at all -- of the five references here, two are simple transcription lists of all the headstones in a local cemetery, one is a 40-word blurb on a genealogy website, and the other two are just brief namechecks of his existence in articles about the town rather than him. This does not constitute evidence that he's been the subject of enough reliable source coverage to support a Wikipedia article. Bearcat (talk) 17:25, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete. Mayors of cities of this size are not usually considered to be inherently notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:21, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
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Mike Nelson (North Carolina politician)[edit]

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WP:BLP of a person notable only as a former mayor, in a town not large enough to hand its mayors an automatic presumption of notability per WP:NPOL. The strongest potential "more notable than the norm" claim here is that he was the first openly gay mayor in his state -- but being the first member of an underrepresented minority to hold an otherwise non-notable political office is not a Wikipedia inclusion criterion in and of itself, and the article isn't showing the depth of reliable source coverage it would take to get him over the "who have received significant press coverage" part of our criteria for local officeholders: the only two sources here are one deadlinked news article in one newspaper, and one deadlinked article on an advocacy organization's blog which may have mentioned his name but appears from its headline to not have been about him per se. Simply put, the sourcing would have to be quite a lot better than this to qualify him for an article. Bearcat (talk) 17:35, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete. Mayors of cities of this size (20,000 people) are not usually considered to be inherently notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:20, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
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Rosemary Waldorf[edit]

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WP:BLP of a person notable only as a former mayor, which is resting on a single source and is thus not referenced well enough to satisfy the "who have received significant press coverage" part of our inclusion criteria for local officeholders. While it used to be the case that mayors were automatically presumed notable as soon as the city surpassed 50K in population, that's since been deprecated by a lot of more recent AFD discussions -- a mayor's notability is now much more purely dependent on how much sourcing and substance can actually be shown to actually get them over WP:GNG. But with one source, and literally no substance here besides "she was elected, she was reelected twice, she stepped down, the end", what's required simply isn't being shown at all. Bearcat (talk) 17:50, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete. Mayors of cities of this size (57,000 people) are not usually considered to be inherently notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:20, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
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Kevin Foy[edit]

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WP:BLP of a person notable primarily as a former mayor, not reliably sourced well enough to get him past the "who have received significant press coverage" part of our criteria for local officeholders. While it used to be the case that mayors were automatically presumed notable as soon as the city surpassed 50K in population, that's since been deprecated by a lot of more recent AFD discussions -- a mayor's notability is now much more purely dependent on how much sourcing and substance can actually be shown to actually get them over WP:GNG. But what we have for sourcing here consists of three primary sources, one article in his alma mater's student newspaper, and one (deadlinked) daily newspaper piece which wasn't about him, but merely namechecked his existence in an article whose core subject was somebody else. None of this counts as significant press coverage at all -- and there's a looooooooot of completely unsourced content about his personal life here, too, deep enough to suggest "insider knowledge" editing by somebody with a direct conflict of interest. This is simply not enough to deem him notable. Bearcat (talk) 18:01, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Keep a quick google search found me multiple reliably sourced articles [14] [15] showing that he considered running for senate seriously enough to be included in independent polls for the Senate race. The article definitely needs to be rewritten but that means fix it, not delete it. CJK09 (talk) 19:54, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
"Considered running for senate" is not a notability claim that gets a person into Wikipedia in and of itself — a person gets a Wikipedia article out of a Senate election by winning it and accordingly holding the office of Senator, not just by being speculated about in the media as a possible candidate but then not actually taking the plunge. Bearcat (talk) 23:48, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep. Foy was a mayor. A mayor is a public figure. However, this article does require some cleanup. SWP13 (talk) 09:32, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
Sure, mayors are public figures, but they're not all automatically accepted as notable public figures just because they exist — per WP:NPOL and WP:POLOUTCOMES, Wikipedia does not extend an automatic presumption of notability to public figures at the local level of political office. A mayor's includability on Wikipedia is contingent on being able to reliably source the article well enough to satisfy the "who have received significant press coverage" criterion. So no, we don't keep a poorly sourced article about a mayor just because cleanup might be theoretically possible — to be kept with a cleanup tag on it instead of deleted, it would have to be shown that the depth of sourcing needed to salvage it with does actually exist. Bearcat (talk) 17:12, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete. Mayors of cities of this size (57,000 people) are not usually considered to be inherently notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:19, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
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  • Delete per nom. Nothing to satisfy WP:GNG that I can see/find. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:58, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Achini Chamen[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:21, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Keep Passes WP:NGYMNAST #1 by virtue of having competed in the World Championships. Smartyllama (talk) 16:16, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete a single source is not enough to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:08, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
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File:Wade michael page police handout.png[edit]

File:Wade michael page police handout.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Medeis (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

The mugshot taken in supposedly Wisconsin was discussed at Talk:Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting#Image of Wade Michael Page as a pre-nomination. I thought about PRODding it. However, because the uploader is one of long-time active editors, I realized that I should take precaution, so I pinged the uploader instead while starting the discussion there. There, the image's compliance of WP:NFCC and copyright status were discussed. Replacing the image with a freer image was considered, but I wasn't sure whether a mugshot from North Carolina is free to use. The other participants there disagreed; no freer replacement was uploaded.

One reason to have the image deleted: the biographical image is used in the non-biographical article about the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting. Even when the section about the perpetrator is detailed, I believe that readers would already understand the event/shooting itself without this image. The shooting itself, not the shooter himself, is the article subject. Another reason: The image isn't necessary to help readers understand that the perpetrator was one of white supremacists. Even the article doesn't (and shouldn't) emphasize too much on his appearance (unless his overall appearance is the important part of the shooting). Sure, racial hatred was the motive for murder and one of major components of the event. The image might be replaceable or irreplaceable. Regardless, the image fails the "contextual significance" criterion.

Of course, I would hear different interpretations on the criterion otherwise. At first I thought about having a central discussion about image of various perpetrators, but I decided to nominate this individual image on the safer side before doing so. --George Ho (talk) 00:34, 19 August 2017 (UTC); amended, 00:38, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

File:AM2R Return of Samus.png[edit]

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Text logo, so whilst this is acceptable under the current license, I am querying why it needs to be "fair use", especially as the equivalent media at Wikimedia Commons c:File:AM2R-Return-of-Samus-Logo.png was considered too simple to eligible for copyright protection. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 07:58, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

File:233326wjxxl6.jpeg[edit]

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This is claimed as creative COmmons, but it looks more like a third party logo design, and the URL given needs deciphering. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:56, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

I have developed this vision, saudi vision 2020/2030, and I have designed this logo ... and I have not submitted to the reseant government ... and I could maintain the rights researved for this logo ...

   Eng. Yasir I. Kashgari

Name: Eng. Yasir I. Kashgari

     Great vectory...

Occupation: Business Owner

           Author

Home country: United Kingdom Religion: Crestian

         Not arab, Not muslims ...

caute: Pleasure could be the most exciting sense in humans life... Website: https://www.yaserkashgari.wix.com/ykashgari#!welcome/c12if

Yasir I. Kashgari  18:28, 7 August 2017 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ykashgari (talkcontribs)  
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Relisting comment: @Ykashgari:, can you prove that the logo is your design? In that case, you should send proof per e-mail to WP:OTRS
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Poniatowski bridge - destroyed in 1915.jpg[edit]

File:Poniatowski bridge - destroyed in 1915.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Piotrus (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

This image exists on Commons c:File:Poniatowski bridge - destroyed in 1915.jpg, where it's claimed it's author died in 1940. If correct this would render the local do not move to commons rationale invalid. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:39, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

The template was added in 2007 by User:Jarekt: [16]. Back then it might have been valid, 10 years later it seems like the usual case of those templates not being dated and creating problems now... waste of our time due to copyright paranoia. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:55, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
@Piotrus and ShakespeareFan00: My edit 10 years ago was to add a license template. I find it weird that the license template comes with a message not to copy the file to Commons unless you know the copyright status of the image. That is true for all license templates. The license situation on Commons is a bit shaky as there is no proof that the photographer died before 1940 as stated by the license. I have seen images deleted for smaller issues. --Jarekt (talk) 14:39, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:46, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Categories[edit]

August 19[edit]

NEW NOMINATIONS[edit]

Category:List of Sunni Muslim dynasties[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Should be in form of an article. Shyamsunder (talk) 09:34, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Category:Hijra[edit]

Nominator's rationale: rename to align with main article Hegira. The spelling is controversial (see the article's talk page) but nevertheless categories should follow article names. If not renamed to Hegira it should get a disambiguator like Category:Hijra (Islam) in order to differentiate from Category:Hijra (South Asia). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:08, 19 August 2017 (UTC)



Redirects[edit]

August 19[edit]

"List of aircraft (#-#)" redirects[edit]

Due to page moves, these redirects are no longer accurate. (Note: List of aircraft (I-K) and List of aircraft (U-Z) are {{R with history}}s and not {{R from move}}s.) Steel1943 (talk) 02:47, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

List of aList of awards and nominations received by Monsta X[edit]

Looks like someone was trying to type "List of awards" twice. Steel1943 (talk) 02:39, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

List of 30 Rock crew[edit]

The target page does not contain a list of its subject's television crew. Steel1943 (talk) 01:06, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Templates[edit]

August 19[edit]

Template:Grand Comics Database imprint[edit]

Imprints have been deleted at the Grand Comics Database since 2014. I've changed the few instances of this template being used to point to brand groups (which are similar) or publishers instead. This template is no longer useful. Bookcats (talk) 01:57, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Miscellany[edit]

Deletion review[edit]

19 August 2017[edit]