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Gretchen Custodio Diez[edit]

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Outside of recent news coverage, the subject is not notable WP:BLP1E. Meatsgains(talk) 14:41, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Mobile phone industry in Pakistan[edit]

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Started by me way back when I created my account. No progress, fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 14:39, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Say No! to Architecture[edit]

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A lack of proper citations and establishment of notability leads to a failure of WP:MUSICBIO. A search has brought up nothing. AmericanAir88(talk) 14:12, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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Imense[edit]

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Can't find any detailed coverage of company - although name makes it slightly difficult to find. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 13:30, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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Amelia McNamara[edit]

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I appreciate User:Jesswade88's hard work on biographical articles on scientists, most of which are clearly notable. But an assistant professor with an h-index of 4 is unlikely to meet WP:NPROF yet. I don't see a WP:GNG case either. Haukur (talk) 12:35, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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  • Delete. Concur with nominator. I don't see how she passes any of the NPROF criteria. Per my BEFORE, she doesn't pass GNG. Many of the sources in the article are not independent of the subject (i.e. authored by the subject, interview with the subject, profile of the subject probably written by the subject, etc.). Icewhiz (talk) 12:47, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete I really do wish that early career researchers were notable; but, per Icewhizz. ——SerialNumber54129 12:58, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
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Roger Westman (artist)[edit]

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We have recently deleted Edwin Westman and Kenneth Westman (writer) as hoaxes - see this AfD discussion. Roger Westman is by the same author. Of the few references where I could see anything, the content about the guy is minimal. So I am nominating this article as "non-notable" rather than hoax. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:34, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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Sunrise Beyond[edit]

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Originally, the Sunrise is this article was linked to an article about the sun rising, but now that the links are correctly linked to Sunrise Inc., the parent company, I can see that as a subsidiary approx 5 mos old, it fails N (which is not inherited). Atsme Talk 📧 12:17, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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Players' Bill of Rights[edit]

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This is 100% based on primary searches and WP:BEFORE of reliable sources turns up only passing mentions of a related concept in soccer. This seems to be widely discussed on gaming forums, but not in RS. Happy to see it kept if real sources can be found. Guy (Help!) 12:16, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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  • Delete - Nothing in the article constitutes what Wikipedia considers a reliable source. Fails the WP:GNG. Sergecross73 msg me 12:40, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

John A. Palmer (Lawyer)[edit]

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Fails WP:NPOL. Not notable local politician or lawyer. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:32, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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  • Delete per WP:NPOL. Barring that, I'm not seeing the WP:SIGCOV demonstrated within the article (or from performing my own quick search outside Wikipedia). —MelbourneStartalk 11:59, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

List of international awards of David Warner[edit]

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More listcruft. Per this discussion at the Cricket WikiProject, and this previous AfD, community consensus is against this type of list. Harrias talk 10:37, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason:

List of international awards of Mitchell Johnson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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  • Delete with a very selective prose-based merge if appropriate to their player pages (I've been convinced that redirect is unlikely given the search term needed). I remain unconvinced that player of the match awards are notable in any but the rarest cases. Blue Square Thing (talk) 11:30, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

QMobile Noir Quatro Z4[edit]

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Promotional, fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 10:25, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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The Tenants (2019 film)[edit]

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Non-notable film, no independent coverage, per WP:NFF, deproded without addressing concerns BOVINEBOY2008 10:10, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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2020 Vision Quest[edit]

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An article about a non-notable organization that was created by a single purpose account. Fails WP:ORG. SL93 (talk) 07:51, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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Stefan Wackerbauer[edit]

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Despite being former member of the Red Bull Junior team he hasn't any career achievements to pass WP:NMOTORSPORT Corvus tristis (talk) 06:08, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

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Drivewyze[edit]

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Non notable, and promotional. All available refs seem to be mere notices Even if there is some underlying notability, thearticle would needto be rewritten. DGG ( talk ) 05:08, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

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  • Keep I did a News search which shows that Drivewyze has received sustained coverage since 2013 in multiple reliable independent sources, namely trade press for the road haulage sector. Given the nature of the product I would not expect reporting in the mainstream media, but there’s certainly enough in the specialist press to support the notability of the topic. I agree with the nominator’s view that a rewrite is probably needed, as I don’t think all of the current content is well supported, and some possibly not at all, but that’s a case for editing rather than deleting. Mccapra (talk) 03:23, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
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Angular Material[edit]

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No evidence of notability. WP does not need a stub for every software project or component Imaginatorium (talk) 06:13, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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  • Redirect to AngularJS per WP:OVERLAP. Angular Material is a library exclusively for AngularJS that is maintained by the same developers as AngularJS. There is no need to have a separate article for this library. — Newslinger talk 09:56, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Does it even need a redirect? If discussed in AngularJS, a search will find that article, which is what the reader needs. If someone enters "Angular material", what is the probability they are looking for AngularJS versus just any sort of angular material? Imaginatorium (talk) 09:58, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Delete. There's some ambiguity between AngularJS and Angular (web framework), and it's unclear which one this article should redirect to. The subject of this article is only associated with the former, but there is another library named Angular Material that only works with the latter. If there were a clear redirect target, I would insist on a redirect because this library does meet WP:GNG with the article's cited sources, and there is no other topic on Wikipedia with the name angular material. — Newslinger talk 10:15, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Strongly Keep: I got really a problem here. Angular Material is used in many places in software development as a dependency and it is really a popular library. There is no issue in notability (refer references). This is really disturbing my contribution. These articles should be reviewed through experienced and IT expertise people. I find it really disturbing placing deletion tags' without even understating the content. Do not redirect as usage of AngularJS and Angular Material is different as Angular material is a part of material design. Angular Material is probably one of top 10 material design framework.[1][2] There are books mainly targeting Angular material (https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=3gvpDAAAQBAJ). There are many tutorials about Angular Materials[3] (Note: Articles should be reviewed by experienced people. If you cannot understand the content, please place a message in my talk page or here, I will answer as I have time for that.) Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shevonsilva (talkcontribs) 10:46, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Albert K. Chin[edit]

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Cannot find sufficient RS for him, it seems to be a part of UPE, previously created as "Albert Chin". Meeanaya (talk) 05:06, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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Michele Carlson[edit]

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GNG and WP:ARTIST fail. She has been fairly widely published as an author of magazine articles (see ext links section), but there is scant coverage, if any, that deals with her or her work. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 05:04, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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  • Weak keep: editor of Art Practice online art magazine, notable enough to have passed the eagle eye of Randykitty, seems to push towards notability.PamD
I see where you are going there, but editing a web magazine or being looked over by particular editor are not policy-based arguments for keeping an article. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 12:33, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Sonu(Composer)[edit]

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Non-notable producer, lacks in-depth coverage. Meeanaya (talk) 05:01, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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  • Delete I note that there have been multiple previous deletions of Suwarndeep Sinha, the person's real name, and that the article title has now been salted. The article fails to establish notability per WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO, and looking for sources I couldn't find anything better (although searching for a composer just called Sonu was made more complicated by the existence of a composer called Sonu Nigam, so it's always possible that I might have missed something, especially in non-English sources). GirthSummit (blether) 09:08, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Weston Teruya[edit]

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I could find only a couple of articles that talk about his work in depth; most article sources are either trivial or not independent. GNG and WP:ARTIST fail. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:55, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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Cormullion[edit]

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Only one entry and it's an alternative spelling; there is no mention of Cormullion in any article Leschnei (talk) 02:09, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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James Emswiller[edit]

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Does not meet GNG - sources are nearly all related to the manner of his death on a movie set. Has had notability tag since 10/2018. Chrysaor (talk) 01:51, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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Delete - His story is indeed tragic, but Wikipedia cannot and should not become a shrine or a repository of grief. This case is not notable per WP:1E and any reliable sourcing on his demise can be discreetly tucked away into the article on the movie rather than by creating an overt content fork! Michepman (talk) 03:25, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
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  • Keep - won an Emmy Award, meets WP:ANYBIO #1 ("The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor"). Needs improving, not deleting. GiantSnowman 07:48, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep/merge I agree that detailed info about this person seems quite scarce but here's another source. The worst case is a merger into A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood – the movie in question per WP:ATD and WP:PRESERVE. Andrew D. (talk) 09:25, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep - He's won an Emmy, which means he passes WP:ANYBIO. To be fair, that guideline states that meeting a criteria doesn't guarantee inclusion, but 99% of the time we treat a major award like an Emmy as sufficient in and of itself. And in this case, we also have the substantial news coverage surrounding his death, which means there are a tonne of RSs giving information about his life sufficient to flesh out an article. On it's own that might be a WP:BLP1E case, but take it with the Emmy, and notability is clearly established. Hugsyrup 14:44, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Jan Fran[edit]

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The only possibly reliable source is the rather promotional article in the Sydney Morning Herald, and this is insufficient for notability DGG ( talk ) 05:51, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

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  • Delete per nom. Subject is not notable per se and article is an orphan. Some quick searching turns up gobs of social media presence of hers, but nothing that seems to qualify as RS. Agricola44 (talk) 14:59, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment, just noting that RebeccaGreen has added more info/sources to the article since the start of this afd (still may not enough for Fran to meet notability though, ie. WP:ANYBIO or WP:CREATIVE), also, is a "redirect" to The Feed (Australian TV series) out of the question (she co-presented for 6 years) as a wikireader term? Coolabahapple (talk) 11:23, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep - based on sources added by RebeccaGreen seems to meet GNG now. Bookscale (talk) 10:08, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep - has been expanded --Spacepine (talk) 10:36, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment I have to say I'm really not sure. The Sydney Morning Herald has two articles, both about several people, so while they are about Fran (and also have some quotes from her), they are not only about her. I would not consider New Idea reliable, although maybe I'm mixing it up with other women's magazines which plaster their covers with stories about the Queen abdicating and Wills/Kate, Harry/Meghan and Fred/Mary divorcing. Perhaps it's reliable enough for coverage about more ordinary people. However, it's an interview with Fran and her husband, so is not a completely secondary source. The Mumbrella, Age and News.com sources are all very short, just one or two sentences about her and more about the topic highlighted by the article titles. I was interested to find the Daily Sabah source, as it's media from another country reporting about a media person from Australia. It includes her tweets, with commentary on them. I'm hesitating over Weak Keep or Weak Delete. If this article is deleted, then it shouldn't affect any future recreation if more is published about her. RebeccaGreen (talk) 00:26, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete - just having a job as a journalist or presenter does not establish notability, she hasn't actually done anything notable other than appear on TV - interviews are not reliable sources WP:INTERVIEW - does not meet WP:ANYBIO, therefore, delete, or Redirect to The Feed (Australian TV series) - Epinoia (talk) 02:59, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
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Guillaume Corpart Muller[edit]

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The subject of the article has not received significant coverage for his artistic output. A Google search will yield only his Wiki page, personal website, his generic profile on "artnet" (?) and the LinkedIn profiles of individuals with the same name. KidAd (talk) 03:27, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

I would also like to add that a look through some of the cites sources reveals mostly dead pages and a few Wordpress blogs. Hardly anything to establish credibility. KidAd (talk) 03:38, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete I can’t find anything to support notability. Mccapra (talk) 05:03, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 06:07, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 06:07, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Files[edit]

Files for discussion[edit]

August 21[edit]

File:SunBowloldlogo.jpg[edit]

File:SunBowloldlogo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by JKBrooks85 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete per WP:NFCC#8. The image is not used as the primary means of visual identification, and the use of historical logos for an entity is not allowed, unless the historical logo itself is described in the context of critical commentary about that historical logo. This logo is not even mentioned, let alone described in the context of critical commentary. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:48, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

File:KT-44 Erdal MBT.jpg[edit]

File:KT-44 Erdal MBT.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kızılsungur (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete The file is a drawing of a certain Turkish tank. However, after some research, such model of tank seems to be purely imaginary. With its orphaned status, it is believed that the file may not be encyclopedicly useful, and should be deleted. 廣九直通車 (talk) 08:13, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

File:KT-46 KOTUZ Heavy MBT.jpg[edit]

File:KT-46 KOTUZ Heavy MBT.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kızılsungur (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete The file is a drawing of a certain Turkish tank. However, after some research, such model of tank seems to be purely imaginary. With its orphaned status, it is believed that the file may not be encyclopedicly useful, and should be deleted. 廣九直通車 (talk) 08:13, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Categories[edit]

August 21[edit]

NEW NOMINATIONS[edit]

Category:Sikh Bollywood Actresses[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Only one entry. Softlavender (talk) 11:58, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Category:Marketing terminology[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Like most terminology categories, these categories hardly contain any articles about terminology (i.e. about the use of language) but instead they contain particular terms that each belong and usually already are in a content category. Terminology categories like these are usually deleted, see e.g. the list in this discussion and this list. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:52, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:School of Canon Law[edit]

Nominator's rationale: It's not my field, but I doubt that the CUA's School of Canon Law is the only such school in the world... Randykitty (talk) 10:40, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
  • It is my field, and actually, it is the only such school in the world. The technical term for an academic department of canon law is "faculty of canon law", not "school". Catholic University of America uses "School" because of the Anglo-American university "School" system, "School of Law" name convention, etc. Every other faculty of canon law is called Faculty of Canon Law, Institute of Canon Law, or some such similar name (cf. Pontificia Università Gregoriana Facoltà di Diritto Canonico, Canon Law Faculties and Institutes). "School of Canon Law" is truly a title of the faculty of canon law, just as "Columbus School of Law" is the title of the CUA school of secular law. It is not a generic term for any faculty of canon law, like "school of law" would be a generic term for any American secular legal educational institution. Therefore, I strongly oppose the renaming, as it is unnecessary given the stated reason of the nominator, since there is only one School of Canon Law in the world, and it would be improper to rename it, since "School of Canon Law" is its title. If additional pages on faculties and institutes of canon law are written on the English Wikipedia, we can create a "Faculties of canon law" category, under which "Category:School of Canon Law" will be subcategorized. Canon Law Junkie §§§ Talk 15:13, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose, to keep alignment with the article title. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:21, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Rename -- It should not have a name implying it is universal, when it is in fact part of a particular university. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:24, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
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  • Rename per nom and Peterkingiron. Oculi (talk) 10:25, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Category:Lisburn Cricket Club players[edit]

Nominator's rationale: We do not categorise club cricketers, only those who have played for senior representative club sides at first-class, List A or T20 level, which are levels Lisburn have not played at. Playing for a minor club is non-defining per WP:COP#N. I am also nominating the following related category for the same reason:

StickyWicket (talk) 10:35, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Oppose Perfectly legitimate category. It totally irrelevant what status the clubs have played at. If there is enough articles to form a category than that's fine. Nominator has also removed players from the category "Irish cricketers" based on his nonsense definition. Djln Djln (talk) 16:01, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Comment. Except it isn't. The cricket project doesn't categorise non first-class/List A/T20 teams, which is why Category:Players in English domestic cricket by team, Category:Players in New Zealand domestic cricket by team, Category:Players in Indian domestic cricket by team all contain teams that play at the above level, otherwise such categories would be full of club cricket teams where there is no definition between what is considered a notable team per WP:CRIN. As mentioned, they fail WP:COP#N because they are non-defining, they do not make the subject notable. The cricket project has categorised like this since 2004 and if you wish to change it, lobby for that change. Until then, players only get cricket categories for playing a format recognised as major cricket, and teams only get a category if they have played matches recognised as a form of major cricket. And "nonsense definition" isn't a reason to object. StickyWicket (talk) 22:00, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Note. Precedent also set here. StickyWicket (talk) 22:00, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Comment. Does a precedent involving just two editors really count. I don't think so. Djln Djln (talk) 01:12, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
Precedent does not exist because was less attention on that case than on this case.Lurking shadow (talk) 09:50, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Keep unless you can reduce this category to one entry; and WP:COP#N does not disallow categorization as a Lisburn Cricket Club player if that activity was important for what they are notable for(which definitely applies to international players coming from that cricket club)Lurking shadow (talk) 09:50, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Comment but they are not notable for being Lisburn Cricket Club players, they're notable for playing for other teams in line with WP:CRIN, which means we categorise according to match/club status, and have done since 2004. StickyWicket (talk) 12:36, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Comment. Also, not a single international cricketer is categorised by any non-first-class/List A/Twenty20 teams they played for, e.g. Joe Root isn't categorised as a Sheffield Collegiate Cricket Club cricketer, or Sachin Tendulkar isn't cateogrised by any minor club he played for in Mumbai. The current CRIC way of categorising is fully in line with how cricket rates the importance of matches by status. StickyWicket (talk) 13:03, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Well, if there is significant coverage in reliable sources about their activities at these clubs then don't leave it out. If that results in the category having few people left, delete the category. Otherwise, keep it. How about that?Lurking shadow (talk) 19:00, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment -- I see a problem with this category, because (as far as I can see from the Lisburn Cricket Club is not a fully professional club. We have a similar problem with clubs in the 5th and 6th tiers (and below) in English football. Sampling the articles suggested that most of the players categorised were notable for playing in other sports or for Ireland national team. Accordingly Merge back to Irish cricketers. I suspect this is organised on an all-Ireland basis so that this should not be split between NI & RoI. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:32, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Pyridoisoquinolines[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Of the four categories in Category:Pyridoisoquinolines, the largest substructures common to all four compounds seem to be COc0cc1CCNC(CCC(C)CC)c1cc0OC, COc0cc1CCNC(CCCCC(C)C)c1cc0OC, and COc0cc1CCN2CC(CC)CCC2c1cc0OC, all of which have a substructure of tetrahydroisoquinoline. According to PubChem, pyridoisoquinoline appears to be pyridine fused to isoquinoline in a certain manner, resulting in a fully aromatic group of three rings with two nitrogen atoms, neither of which are in the center ring. By contrast, the tricyclic substructure common to the four members of Category:Pyridoisoquinolines, c0cc1CCN2CCCCC2c1cc0, has only one aromatic ring, has only one nitrogen atom, and has a nitrogen atom on the border of the first and second rings. None of the four compounds have a substructure of pyridoisoquinoline. I conducted a PubChem substructure search for pyridoisoquinoline and looked at the page for each of the ten results on the first page. The fact that none of those ten pages had a link to the English Wikipedia page for the compound (and furthermore did not even have a link to a Wikipedia page in another language or a link to a Wikidata page) suggests that Wikipedia doesn't have any pages about pyridoisoquinolines. In summary, all four members of Category:Pyridoisoquinolines are tetrahydroisoquinolines, none are pyridoisoquinolines, and Wikipedia does not appear to have any pages about pyridoisoquinolines, so the category should be deleted and its members moved to Category:Tetrahydroisoquinolines. Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 20:09, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment, neither Pyridoisoquinolines nor Tetrahydroisoquinolines seems to be a defining characteristic of these four articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:44, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Wikipedians contributing under Dual License with CC BY-SA[edit]

Nominator's rationale: For consistency with the parent categories and the article Creative Commons license, both of which suggest "CC BY-SA" is more appropriate than "CC-BySA". The IntEng categories are for those use the International English versions of the CC BY-SA 1.0 and CC BY-SA 2.0 licenses; however, my understanding is they are still the same licenses. (Category creator not notified because: bot) -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:54, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Wikipedians contributing under Creative Commons[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Creative Commons (CC) is the organization; contributions are made under a CC license. I am neutral on "contributing" versus "who contribute"—most of this tree uses "contributing" but there are more categories overall that use "who contribute" (see here).
Also... While they are not part of this nomination, I would also appreciate thoughts about the subcategories. Which format should they use? (1) Wikipedians contributing under Creative Commons #.# (2) Wikipedians contributing under a Creative Commons #.# license. (3) Wikipedians contributing under CC #.#. (4) Wikipedians contributing under a CC #.# license. If you would be kind enough to indicate 1, 2, 3, or 4, I will start a follow-up nomination once this one closes. (Pinging the category's creator, User:HarJIT) -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:29, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Redirects[edit]

August 21[edit]

Template:Usmd[edit]

Unused. It is listed as unused for years. It does not follow the standard wikiproject redirects convention. Magioladitis (talk) 14:45, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Template:Teylers/class[edit]

Unused. Leftover of a move to standard name Magioladitis (talk) 14:26, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Template:AlienProject[edit]

Unused. It is listed as unused for years. It does not follow the standard wikiproject redirects convention. Magioladitis (talk) 14:11, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Paul McClean[edit]

Delete. Paul Mc Clean was a journalist attacked by a mugger crocodile in 2017 and the article was created as a redirect to the Attacks on humans section of Mugger crocodile in September 2017. The section no longer mentions Paul McClean so the redirect is confusing. The only links to the redirect are an error (Nile Niami refers to architect Paul McClean) and a reference to vandalism (which appears to have been deleted) on a user talk page. TSventon (talk) 12:50, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Separatist leaders[edit]

Extremely vague. A redlink serves a reader better than pointing it to an article like separatism which doesn't really cover separatist leaders. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:48, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Seithr Oil[edit]

Minor (?) fictional element that isn't mentioned in Wikipedia. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:44, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Template:WPt[edit]

Unused. Case similar to Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2018_April_19#Template:WPd Magioladitis (talk) 06:59, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Template:Drought[edit]

Unused. It is listed as unused for years. It does not follow the standard wikiproject redirects convention. Magioladitis (talk) 06:37, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Template:AUCK[edit]

No transclusions. Does not follow the WikiProject_ of WP_ scheme which seems to be the standard for wikiprojects and their redirects nowadays. In the past, we have deleted many similar non-standard formats to simplify things. Magioladitis (talk) 06:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete Whereas WP:AUCK is plausible, this one seems highly unlikely to be searched. James-the-Charizard (talk) 13:02, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Steve P. Jobs[edit]

Making a WP:BOLD move here, but I don't think people are going to use the middle initial to find Jobs. This isn't as useful as other redirects to him. (Like Steve Job & Stev Jobs) James-the-Charizard (talk) 03:35, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep since he is "Steve P. Jobs", and since the redirect does not seem to be ambiguous. Steel1943 (talk) 05:42, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep; it's normal to offer a redirect with the middle initial. If he were commonly known as "Steven Jobs", it might be implausible (this redirect simultaneously shortens his first name and adds the middle initial), but since he normally went by a shortened first name, this is just the normal name with the middle initial, and it's not at all implausible. Nyttend (talk) 10:56, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Gannonforg[edit]

Implausible misspelling of Ganondorf. Reach Out to the Truth 00:56, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete the redirect. I see no useful purpose in keeping it. Atsme Talk 📧 02:21, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Toadistan[edit]

I can't find any evidence that this is an actual location in the Mario franchise. Reach Out to the Truth 00:11, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Templates[edit]

August 21[edit]

Template:Institute of Business Administration, Karachi[edit]

Single entry, should be in see also section. No need for navbox. Störm (talk) 12:25, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Template:Cat priority[edit]

Essentially a duplicate of {{Cat importance}}, this dates back to when a minority of WikiProjects used categories titled "Foo-priority bar articles" rather than "Foo-importance bar articles". This was all standardised back in 2011 though, so this template is now redundant and unused with only a single transclusion on an archived talk page. PC78 (talk) 00:46, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Miscellany[edit]

Deletion review[edit]

21 August 2019[edit]

Galbraith (property consultancy)[edit]

Galbraith (property consultancy) (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

The reason for deletion is that the company if not of any note just ogin around its daily business as any other firm in this industry does. If this is the case why are all estate agency/property consultancy articles not removed, such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savills or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_Frank ? The Galbraith article was just as relevant as either of these appear to be. If they are classed as more noteworthy I would like to know why. 51.148.106.137 (talk) 11:58, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Aleluya (En La Tierra)[edit]

Aleluya (En La Tierra) (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

Article was moved to draftspace without consensus by a now CU-blocked user. This should have been left to run its course or be closed by an admin. Note was redirected through AN. Thanks Nightfury 08:30, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Overturn and relist - being CU blocked aside, it should have had a discussion at the very least. Being closed less than an hour after it's listing seems odd, if nothing else. Steven Crossin Help resolve disputes! 08:35, 21 August 2019 (UTC) Endorse, and a huge trout to myself for not picking up on what Mkativerata (talk · contribs) did. Article creator moving it back to draft space completely justifies procedural close. Steven Crossin Help resolve disputes! 11:45, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Relist for full discussion. Stifle (talk) 10:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • The diffs say that it was the article creator who moved the article back into draft space: [4]. All the AfD closer was doing was recording that occurrence and closing the AfD accordingly.[5] Is that right? If so, the closer's description of the close as a "procedural close" seems entirely correct, and he or she did the right thing. And we should have no problem with an article-creator draftifying an article for which they're the only editor, so that the article avoids the guillotine of an AfD and the creator can do some more work on it. I think there's nothing to see here. --Mkativerata (talk) 10:34, 21 August 2019 (UTC)