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Is the importance of templates NA?[edit]

Hi. I just noted that @Tom (LT): and I have been undoing some of each others work. Tom have been rating some of templates by importance and I have set them as NA. Should templates be rated by importance? What do you, Tom, and the rest of you think. JakobSteenberg (talk) 18:45, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

  • Ah, sorry about that, this is unintentional and to boot, I think I am also inconsistent - sometimes I have marked them as NA and other times with an importance. I'm happy to follow your thoughts on this. --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:53, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
I've always marked them as NA, simply because it seems odd to rank them at all as their importance depends on where they are used. I think we should continue with this, if for no other reason than that it would be a lot of work to start marking them. Carl Fredrik talk 13:13, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Really depends on the template, but in most cases, a template should be rated as {{WikiProject Anatomy|class=template|importance=NA}}. Seppi333 (Insert ) 16:27, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your input. For now the will remain ranked as NA. JakobSteenberg (talk) 06:35, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject[edit]

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background[edit]

On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   07:25, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Portals update[edit]

Two portals relate to our WikiProject that I have identified:

Using some of the wonderful tools provided by Wikiproject Portals I've rejiggered and updated these portals, folded them into single pages (from a sprawling set of over 100 subpages and templates), and updated some of the look and contents. They're definitely not "finished" (nothing here every is!) and I invite more eyes to these two portals. --Tom (LT) (talk) 09:28, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Infobox RfC Update[edit]

The RfC on infoboxes has finished, with the full and detailed conclusion here: Wikipedia:Wikidata/2018_Infobox_RfC#Discussion. The "summary of the summary" reads:

There is a consensus that data drawn for Wikidata might be acceptable for use in Wikipedia if Wikipedians can be assured that the data is accurate, and preferably meets Wikipedia rules of reliability

This has relevance for our WikiProject owing to the tight integration of some Wikidata entries (like terminologica anatomica) in our infoboxes.

How do we use WikiData?

Our anatomy infoboxes integrate information from Wikidata. Information stored in Wikidata is used to provide additional links and "Authority control"-like sources (such as the terminologica anatomica entry) in the infoboxes. We don't at present include any factual information from Wikidata (at least based on my work on the infoboxes). That information (such as the relevant artery, vein, location, or system) is stored on each article.

Do we satisfy the RfC criteria?

It is my opinion that at present we meet the consensus criteria for inclusion as established in the RfC:

  • (a) in my experience so far, now over several years, the WD-sourced links are accurate. I have found the data transcluded to be accurate and have not yet encountered a linked TA/TH/TE or other WD-derived infobox link in our infoboxes to be vandalised or incorrect
  • (b) (i) because the WD-sourced information are all linked to respective databases, we have provided a mechanism for proving their reliability, even though (ii) it is my belief that these entries don't need to provide this because they are essentially links and AC-like content to articles so, not being factual content, do not need further evidence of reliability.

I invite other editors to comment. --Tom (LT) (talk) 10:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)