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10 January

In what year was the 10, January that you refer to? Only a presumptuous person would think that this is clear from the context.but its not —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:38, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I assume you are talking about the first paragraph in Wikipedia:About#Wikipedia_history. It seems clear to me that the year referred to is 2000.--Commander Keane (talk) 01:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
2001, actually. *Dan T.* (talk) 04:03, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
The lack of a year caused me to do a double-take just like the unnamed contributor above. Unlike CK, I thought that the year should be 2001, judging by previous dating of the creation of Wikipedia as being in 2001. Since I find that I am not the only one who questioned this, for the sake of clarity I added the year, 2001, to the February 10. HTH --Paine (talk) 03:52, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Editors intent on improving articles

Just noting that this particular page has an assertion

"As there are many more editors intent on improving articles than not, error-ridden articles are usually corrected promptly."

Wondering -- is there any basis for this statement in terms of actual data ?

--InnocentsAbroad2 (talk) 22:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

The Clock

Is it just me or is the clock on the statistics box 1 hour behind ?

I purged it at 21:57 3rd august. The time appeared as: 20:57 on August 3, 2009. StephenBHedges (talk) 20:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

A nonsensical link title

At the end of the intro section there's a link titled What Wikipedia is (and is not) which leads to a what wikipedia is not page. OK. This is obviously somebody's failed attempt at humor. Quite as logical as hitting the start button in windoze to shut down... Somebody should rename it to what wikipedia is not. -- (talk) 18:26, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


I do not know if perhaps this page or the encyclopedia article Wikipedia should mention the Wikipedia Beta, but that would be highly useful considering that there is no information on this website about it. --vizzydix1:-) 22:10, 20 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vizzydix1 (talkcontribs)

That would belong more on the Wikipedia article than here. You should raise the point on the talkpage. --Cybercobra (talk) 22:38, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


I've never heard "wikipedia" pronounced with the first syllable like "wee", on TV, the radio, or in conversation, and so have deleted the IPA for that. and the six sound files at would appear to back me up. Anyone actually pronounce it WEE-kee-PEE-dee-ə rather than WIK-ee-PEE-dee-ə? (And no, we don't care how it's pronounced in Hawaiian. That's irrelevant. If we were concerned with that, we'd transcribe it [ˈvitiˈviti].) —kwami (talk) 07:07, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm personally the founder of wikipedia, and "Wee" is precisely how I pronounce it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:28, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Графички дизајн

Терминот графички дизајн може да се однесува на голем број на уметнички и стручни дисциплини, кои се фокусираат на визуелна комуникација и презентација. Различни методи се користат за да се создададат и комбинират симболи, слики и / или зборови за да создаде визуелна претстава на идеи и пораки. А може да го користи графичкиот дизајнер типографија, визуелната уметност и распоред страница техники за производство на конечниот резултат. Графички дизајн и често се однесува на процесот (дизајнирање), со која е основан и комуникациски производи (дизајн), која се произведуваат.

Заедничка употреба на графички дизајн вклучува и списанија, реклами на производи и пакувањето. На пример, еден производ пакет може да содржи логото или други уметнички дела, во организација на текст и чист дизајн елементи како форми и боја која ги обедини парче. Состав е еден од најважните белези на графички дизајн, особено кога се користи постоечки материјали или различни елементи. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gonce88 (talkcontribs) 19:56, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

how much were collected of the bir last 2008-2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:09, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

About sub-page

Per requests from some editors on AN/I, I have created a sub-page for IP and new users to comment, given the volume of unproductive edits made to this page. Wikipedia talk:About/New and anonymous editors is the page in question. If you watch this page currently, please watch that page too and respond as best as possible. Thanks. Protonk (talk) 19:32, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

First paragraph

I think there is overlinking in the first paragraph. Some of the links don't really make much sense, and I don't think we want to encourage readers to click away from the article before they have even read the first paragraph. I suggest reducing the number of links. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


I thinkt that the contents of this page is rather long winded but i like to thank the person who contributed it because it is very useful! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:21, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Page moved. Ucucha 14:51, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:AboutHelp:About — As well as a means of segregating information based on readership, the namespaces determine what sort of content can be expected. Wikipedia namespace is the project namespace and should be kept for editing and all other related pages. The Help namespace should be for help. This page is primarily for reader help and therefore should not be in Wikipedia namespace (which is for editors). Help:About current redirects to this page. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 10:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.


Any additional comments:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Regarding the request above.. seems there was no discussion at all. However I'd like to re-open this discussion because I think this page should be moved back to its original and long-held title. Wikipedia:About is linked pretty much everywhere, including at the very bottom of every page (in both monobook and vector). Considering it's literally part of the interface it's probably better if the link doesn't redirect. -- œ 11:08, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

With the sole exception of this one page, Alan Liefting's comment regarding namespaces is valid and I totally agree with it. -- œ 11:34, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Not underground

Wikipedia is not a counter-cultural or subversive organization. In the free world people express their truth openly. People even stand for office and confront controversy honestly. This encyclopedia need not increase fear. The article says

Users can contribute anonymously, under a pseudonym, or with their real identity, if they choose, though the latter is discouraged for safety reasons.

Many users are easily identified and located by their user names, and this article about the project need not say there is a safety concern.Rgdboer (talk) 21:52, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you User:Cybercobra for eliminating the final eight words cited above. Further, we have had ten days in which there has been no reaction. The invitation has lost its ominous tone.Rgdboer (talk) 01:31, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Pillars, please?

Would it be helpful if the pillars were displayed on this page, to help new editors know what's most important (at least theoretically)? There is a link to them but it's buried, rather than prominent.

Thanks for considering, Postpostmod (talk) 12:32, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, I'll give the pillars a link more prominently in the lead. -- œ 14:55, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


I've added a brief paragraph on credits. The CC-BY license requires that we give attribution, and while Wikipedians know that this is done by looking at the page history, for text, and clicking on an image, I could find no place where this is made clear to the casual user. --agr (talk) 10:33, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Not Wikileaks

Should we add a section to the About page to indicate no affiliation with Wikileaks? We have received many questions about this on OTRS.  7  04:50, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

There's a selfref note on WikiLeaks. I think that's more than sufficient. Mentioning them here would give them way too much importance and credit. --Cybercobra (talk) 07:37, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

content of cookies

Now that Wikimedia uses cookies, and since the Wall Street Journal months ago tested some leading websites for privacy issues and found that Wikipedia was not using cookies, we probably should explain what our cookies do, so that it's clear what they don't do, such as (I assume) remembering a reader's search for cancer treatments, information that affects privacy if third parties can buy the information from firms who read the cookies without Wikimedeia's or the reader's consent or knowing cooperation. We already discuss a little of this. Would someone who knows the subject of what Wikimedia stores on cookies please edit this section? Thanks. Nick Levinson (talk) 04:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC) (Corrected by adding the subject/title to this section, intended as new: 04:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC))

Hey about the 3 British soldier were killed by a US Jet fight planes in August 23, 2007?

The reason i tried to take it out on the "list of post-1945 of British victims by the United States military" is because i don't want people to think it's a US-on-UK friendly fire. It was clearly a Brit-on-Brit Friendly Fire. It was well-documented that the British Foward Air-Controller will face Manslaughter charges so the US was not to blame for this. I mean some one look it it and just blame on the US. Especially when Brits(even today) are very quick to blame this on the US despite the fact it was proven it was the fault of the British FAC giving the bad coordinates to the US pilot. That's why i'm trying to take it out many times and yet someone still post it in there. I do not want people(mostly foreigners) to continue to believe it was the Americans fault for this.

if u get my message thank u. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulioetc (talkcontribs) 09:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Ten Simple Rules

I came across Ten Simple Links for Editing Wikipedia while reviewing library resource collections, and thought it might be worth adding to External links, alongside The Missing Manual. I don't want to add it myself, as I do't know if it's already been discussed, is unknown, or is in any conflict with any guidelines. So here it is. If you want to add it, fine. If not, also fine. Flatterworld (talk) 06:38, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


The use of NPOV and Consensus to arrive at the contents of an article can lead to the problem of leading to the inability of any discussion of less agreed on alternative such as was often the subject of discussion in the earlier editions of the Encyclopaedia Britannica and other scientific publications. This makes for a unbalance in the tone of discussion of the topic.WFPM (talk) 22:50, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

For instance, I can detect a considerable bias within Wilipedia against the Janet Periodic table, which only recently has been imported from Europe, and which has a considerably less degree of coverage as to its potential utility, both in Chemistry and in Physics considerations. And I find it hard to make any headway against the predominant preference of the editors in favor of the standard Periodic table. And maybe this is all for the best, And I hope so.WFPM (talk) 23:09, 2 November 2011 (UTC) See Charles Janet.WFPM (talk) 23:18, 2 November 2011 (UTC)