Wikipedia talk:Bots/Requests for approval

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Adding a form for BRFA[edit]

Sick of filling out forms in wikitext, I made a DRN-style form that you can test out by installing User:APerson/easy-brfa.js and then going to WP:Bots/Requests for approval/request. Feedback is welcome; eventually, it would be nice if we had a button on WP:BRFA that went straight to the request subpage. APerson (talk!) 23:33, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Personally, I don't see the need. BRFAs are fairly easy to fill out. Even on my first one, the commented notes guided me through the entire thing step-by-step, and I had no problems. Has there been concern anywhere that BRFAs are difficult to fill out? ~ RobTalk 06:50, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
Rob, it's less about the difficulty of filling out the wikitext form than it is convenience. The wikitext editor wasn't intended for filling out forms, and as I filled out my most recent one, I had to constantly check if I was typing in the form text or a comment instead of where my response was supposed to go. I didn't have any features like autocompletion or tabbing to the next form field, either. I don't find BRFAs very complex to start; it's just that having a HTML form instead of a wikitext one is a nicer experience, in my opinion. APerson (talk!) 21:31, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
With WP:SILENT in mind, I have added a button to the WP:BRFA header that uses the script I wrote. Feel free to revert it if you want. APerson (talk!) 02:15, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
I can't say I'm very fond of having a button that just leads to a page saying some random userscript needs to be installed. Why not have your user script insert the button when it's enabled? Anomie 01:03, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
And the button should come after the "Before applying for approval" section. Legoktm (talk) 01:15, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
It also shouldn't be any part of (or remotely confused to be part of) any official process (in direct contrast to APerson's edit that could easily be confused as part of the official process). WP:AN3's header, for example, makes it very clear that one can use a tool/script to make it easier, but it in no way is confusable as being inherently part of the reporting process. Furthermore, I agree with Anomie's solution: the user script should self-generate any/all buttons related to it. --slakrtalk / 05:38, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Bot operator approval list?[edit]

How does one find out if an editor is running an approved bot or has permission to run a bot? I ask because the edits of Srednuas Lenoroc (talk · contribs) seem to be suspiciously bot-like, but I can't tell if this is authorized or not. --Calton | Talk 09:04, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

P.S.: I'm also going to ask at the Village Pump. --Calton | Talk 09:05, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

For that specific editor, it appears more like semi-automated behavior than automated behavior in my opinion. Irregular times between edits, 3-4 minute gaps between different types of edits (setup time), and a time card that indicates sleep all point in that direction. ~ RobTalk 09:15, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
As a general rule, if a bot has approval to run, the specifically allowed tasks will be under Special:PrefixIndex/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Username. If a bot has approval to run at all, it'll (probably) have the bot user right, which you can check at Special:ListUsers/bot. — Earwig talk 15:19, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Also, going to agree with Rob here that the edits don't strike me as very bot-like. @Calton: edits like this one are reasonable if Time, Inc. was the preferred name (it's not) because they correct an inaccuracy. Most of his edits seem fine; it looks like he tried to correct that mistake after you brought it up. — Earwig talk 15:40, 2 October 2015 (UTC)