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People by X and Y[edit]

Where intersection categories are aggregated in two ways, the current naming convention is e.g. Category:People by nationality and occupation and Category:People by occupation and nationality, where the first thing (X) named in the parent category (by X and Y) is the first thing named in its sub-categories (e.g. Category:Algerian people by occupation, cf. Category:Academics by nationality). This was chosen at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 October 11#Category:Occupations by nationality.

However, editors are still finding this "ambiguous and imprecise" (e.g. this CFD). I have learned the convention, but agree that it is not intuitive.

One current exception is Category:Scientists by occupation (and by nationality), which was renamed at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 July 27#Category:Types of scientist by nationality.

I suggest renaming all such parent categories to a different form, "People by X and then by Y". – Fayenatic London 09:08, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

  • I agree that it's currently not super clear but on the other hand it may not worth the effort to change it. After all, these are mostly container categories, not being used directly in articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:14, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
  • What about just "People by X and by Y"? The "then" is a little awkward, I think, as are the parentheses. But maybe adding a second "by" is not going to really help those who are confused by the current format. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:27, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
  • isn't this just "people's x by y" ? Is there a better way to phrase this? And further is this triple intersection? Should maybe all such cats be deleted on those grounds? (Sincere question - I'm curious as to everyone's thoughts.) - jc37 20:37, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Proposal to expand the "How to name a nationality" section[edit]

I've done a bit of work towards the goal of expanding the section on how to the name a nationality, since it currently doesn't provide much specific guidance. My draft is here. I thought I'd post it here before I added it, since it significantly expands the section. I believe it reflects current consensus. Comments can be made here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:36, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

I've added the proposed text to the policy, and deleted the draft linked to above. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:20, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Hyphen-minus with spaces around[edit]

I do wondering on why I not found a recommendation for the usage of Hyphen-minus with spaces around, because this would be a typographical mistake, instead of using EN DASH!? User: Perhelion 11:59, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Found at MOS:DASH. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:21, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, can we add a short mention to this on this page? User: Perhelion 01:44, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
This page really focuses on naming issues that are specific to categories rather than issues that apply to all Wikipedia content. We don't need to repeat the entire manual of style. I would ask what is it about categories that means we should single out the hyphen/dash issue? Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:28, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
I'll be concrete, I come from Commons. This issue is there a big problem, there are hundreds or thousands of such names. In fact, the category-naming is the fully right place to mention this. Thanks again for your response. User: Perhelion 23:25, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
This policy page is not used as a policy page by commons, is it? I thought that commons, being essentially multilingual, hasn't been as focused on manual of style issues. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:29, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
Many policies are identical, especially the English naming convention. User: Perhelion 22:10, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
OK, so if commons has policies and conventions, and the concern is with commons categories, shouldn't we be adding it there, not here? I'm just trying to figure out why we need to single out one particular English-language guideline here, in the guidelines about categories. Using hyphens instead of dashes in categories in the English Wikipedia is not a pressing problem, as far as I can see. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:16, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Wildlife Management Areas[edit]

Hello, I have started creating articles on wildlife management areas, specifically at this time in Louisiana, and there is no category: [[Category:Wildlife Management Areas of Louisiana]], as a sub-category of [[Category:Wildlife management areas by state]]. Also, I added relevant "Geography of" categories and found that [[Category:Geography of LaSalle Parish, Louisiana]] does not exist. I would appreciate it if someone would give me some information about this. Otr500 (talk) 11:38, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Rename Category:Utilities for MacOS to Category:Utilities for macOS[edit]

I am proposing to rename Category:Utilities for MacOS to Category:Utilities for macOS as "MacOS" refers to "macOS". I need help making this technical move request. I believe the page Category:Utilities for MacOS already exists. Somerandomuser (talk) 20:51, 28 July 2017 (UTC)