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Examples failure[edit]

I can't help noticing that two of the "model" examples given on this page – under "conference report or paper", and using the {{Citation}} template – don't include a "title" field, and therefore generate a red "Missing or empty |title=" alert, which really doesn't look good. GrindtXX (talk) 14:18, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

ISNM = International Standard Music Number[edit]

ISMN = International Standard Music Number is an alternative to ISBN and has been the standard way to identify many newly published musical scores for a number of years. (The United States has been slow to adopt this standard because until recently, the Library of Congress did not want to be saddled with the responsibility--they are asking individual publishers to supply it.) On WP ISMN is not yet accepted as part of the citation template. Can someone make the necessary changes that will allow it? Their website is here: . - kosboot (talk) 04:39, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

I've hacked Module:Citation/CS1/sandbox so that it (and so all cs1|2 templates) can understand ISMN. If this is to be useful, is there some place to link the ismn to (like Special:BookSources) that can find more information about the publication? Right now the hack links to Special:BookSources but that clearly is the wrong place.
This ismn from the ISMN user manual:
  • Title. ISMN 9790345246805. 
These ismns from ISMN:
Trappist the monk (talk) 22:56, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
At the moment all I can think of is - kosboot (talk) 23:16, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
You can get to WorldCat through Special:BookSources. For example, the Special:BookSources link for Frip is:
changing that to search for an ismn:
just gets you a not-found page.
Trappist the monk (talk) 23:35, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Hm, I see that. On the "staff" interface to Worldcat one can get a result (using the "music number" index), but apparently not on the public interface. Let me talk to some OCLC staff and see if there's a work-around. Thanks! - kosboot (talk) 00:27, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
For the time being, I have disabled linking of the ISMN value in cs1|2 templates. If and when someplace to link the number to is found, I'll restore the linking.
Trappist the monk (talk) 10:55, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

theses & dissertations[edit]

The templates say they can be used for theses and dissertations, but I don't see any parameters that distinguish those kinds of works from books. Am I missing something? - kosboot (talk) 19:17, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

@Kosboot: Are you using {{cite thesis}}? --Redrose64 (talk) 20:26, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for that, User:Redrose64. I didn't see it at all - so this page must be fixed. Even though the {{cite thesis}} is used at the end of the section, the section itself says that that the book template should be used. I'm going to change it - others are welcome to improve on what I suggest. - kosboot (talk) 21:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

deadurl is supported in template, but isn't in the documentation[edit]

I was trying to update some dead reference links in articles I watch, and saw the use of "deadurl" in other references. This article appears to be the documentation for citation templates (cite web, cite news, etc.) but there is no mention of that parameter. Someone who understands exactly what it does should update the page to document it. Thanks for listening.Xblkx (talk) 19:01, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

@Xblkx: See e.g. documentation of the |dead-url= parameter. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:37, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
@Redrose64: Thank you, that's exactly what I was looking for. Incidentally, whether a URL in {{cite web}} is live or not seems to be rather important information in the case of a link so I am still wondering why it is not included on this project page in the common usage column.Xblkx (talk) 22:50, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps because it's not common usage? The various cite templates each support well over a hundred different parameters, we can't list them all. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:42, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

RfC closure challenge: Template talk:Cite doi#RfC: Should Template:cite doi cease creating a separate subpage for each DOI?[edit]

Please take part in the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#RfC closure challenge: Template talk:Cite doi#RfC: Should Template:cite doi cease creating a separate subpage for each DOI? Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 05:12, 8 September 2015 (UTC)