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GAC discussion at FAC[edit]

There is a discussion at FAC that involves GAC that some might wish to comment on. — Maile (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:58, 19 July 2016‎ (UTC)

Data on GA trends over time?[edit]

Do we have any idea about the developments in the pace of GA nominations over the past few years? Have nominations gone down or up? Do we have fewer or more reviewers? Has the time between nominatoin and review beginning gone up or down? Has the average length of reviews (length measured in time to decision or in text size of reviews) gone up or down? If one or more such studies exist I would appreciate a link to them if anyone can provide one. If noone has done an empirical overview of this, I think it would be extremely helpful if someone would. Personally I would welcome such as study as I am working on a proposal for a general reform of all wikipedias peer review processes. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 11:35, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

@Maunus: There appears to be a big graph on the Wikipedia article page which compares the number of successful GA noms to FA noms, etc, which might be useful. Fountains-of-Paris (talk) 15:54, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
Maunus, there's also the GAN backlog report at WP:GANR, which goes back a number of years with (mostly) daily information on the total number of nominations, the number not yet reviewed, and how many were on hold, under review but not on hold, and awaiting a second opinion reviewer. However, I don't know of any studies gathering the sort of data you mention. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:56, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks!·maunus · snunɐɯ· 19:26, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
@Maunus: I've actually compiled a ton of GA stats at User:Wugapodes/GAStats and am in the process of finishing a draft on it for the Signpost which I think you'd like to read. The questions I set out to answer were a bit different from the ones you are asking (I was looking at the effect of the GA Cup and backlog drives), but it might help give insight. My data are not fine grain enough to answer your questions directly, but through some fun calculus and intuition I'm of the opinion that the rate of nomination is relatively constant (no real differences between nom rates during and before GA Cups over the last 2 1/2 years for example), the time taken from nom to review tends to fluctuate (backlog grows, causing old noms to sit for a while, then an uptick in reviews happens and they get reviewed lowering the mean time to review, then the reviewers get burned out from all those reviews and the backlog grows and the cycle continues), the length of a review might vary based on when it is undertaken (there's greater turnover in reviews during GA Cups, for instance, so it's likely that they're being completed faster; this is more of an intuition though so don't take this as fact), and the number of reviewers is pretty hard to measure (my guess is that the number's pretty constant but I have pretty much no data to back that up). If you'd like I can also send you my data to play around with. Wugapodes [thɔk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɻɪbz] 21:50, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
Reading through the draft again, I actually realized I did have an answer to your question on nomination rates. Over the past three years, the nomination rate has stayed incredibly consistent at about 10 nominations per day. Wugapodes [thɔk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɻɪbz] 02:03, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
@Wugapodes:, thanks for this! Now this makes the last question even more interesting - whether we see fluctuations in review quality between GA-cup or GA-review drive periods and non-GA cup reviews. This could be estimated by having a count of the sheer bit-size of each review page - taking a longer review as indicative of being more thorough (which I think is justified) - maybe subtracting quickfails. If you could find a way to do this automated we would have some great data on the relation between GA drives and review quality.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 06:42, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
The other measure of quality control would be to actually measure how long the article remains at GA once promoted, that is, how often or now long does the assessment stay the same at GA, how often does it get promoted to FA, and how often is it reviewed and delisted. Cheers. Fountains-of-Paris (talk) 17:27, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

How long should an article be on hold?[edit]

I've had Talk:Joseph Mitchell (city manager)/GA1 on hold for a while now (16 days, I think) and the nominator has been inactive this entire time, despite repeated pings. Now I'd fix the issues myself except that they require source access, and I don't feel comfortable passing as is. Does anybody have any advice on how long I should keep it on hold before failing? Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 11:52, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

If the nominator is inactive for two weeks I think failing it is reasonable unless problems are minor and you can fix them yourself.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 12:29, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

First GA review[edit]

Hello, I've just started my first GA review (currently on hold) at Talk:Chestnuts Long Barrow and wondered if somebody could take a look at it and check I've done everything right. Thanks. Joe Roe (talk) 11:37, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Joe Roe, I took a quick look; you are off to a fine start. Simply look for any violations of the good article criteria and point them out. There are not likely to be very many; I know this nominator; she is one of the highest quality contributors to Wikipedia. Your own thoughts and opinions outside the criteria are welcome as well, even though the nominator need not follow all suggestions. Remember, Good article mentors are available to help you during your review; ping any of them on their Talk page to personally ask for assistance. —Prhartcom 14:46, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Quick fail of Decompression theory[edit]

I would like a second opinion on the quick fail of Decompression theory. It appears to me that the GA criteria are either not being applied correctly, or they are not explained adequately on the project page.


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