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So this article was edited by a group of college editors. Here's how it looked before and now (diff). Quite frankly, the article as it is now is a mess. Everything that was added was mostly unsourced. The structure of the article is all over the place. The tone is more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. There are grammar mistakes throughout. Should the additions just be reverted? Is it possible for the article to be fixed by a knowledgeable editor with access to sources and some copyediting? I'd hate to throw away all the work these students did if it's good information and can still be salvaged, but in its current state it seems to be less useful than the shorter article that was there before. Note that the article has been marked mid-importance by this project. Opencooper (talk) 23:38, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

@Opencooper: For a moment I hoped it's a Korean edu ini, but IP traces it back to University Commons at Minneapolis. Not properly registered with WP:SUP and such. Shrug. I am not an expert on that field of Korean poetry, and I think they didn't remove old stuff, and it doesn't read like an essay to me, just - unreferenced. I tagged it as such, and I think we can leave it be. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:48, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Let us work togethre to fix this problem!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:53, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Bareun Future Party[edit]

Editors active in this project may be interested in a discussion regarding the proper title of the newly merged Bareun and People's parties in Korea. Interested editors are invited to participate in the discussion. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:25, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Include link to North Korea portal for NK articles in project banner[edit]

Could {{WikiProject Korea}} link to Portal:North Korea if the article is supported by the North Korea working group? See template sandbox mockup. It's the only working group that we have a portal for in Category:Korea-related portals.

Consensus needed prior to edit because it's a protected template. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 15:38, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

NK and SK project pages are pretty much inactive, all of this stuff should redirect here - this is the only semi-active place discussing Korean topics on Eng Wiki. Portals are also totally obsolete, nobody visits them (users), they are a toy of few editors who are making them for themselves (again, no readers visit portals, they are a failed idea). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:44, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I agree with what is said just above. Pldx1 (talk) 09:57, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

About the categories xxth-century Korean monarchy[edit]

It seems that the 20 Feb 2018 "article alert" about renaming the "xxth-century Korean monarchy" categories remained unnoticed. As a result, a "discussion" took place with one support (the proposer, User:Hugo999) and one passer-by User:Quuxplusone that mostly suggested a broader name like "Category:Nth-century Korean royalty" that might be less likely to drop articles out of the existing categories. (see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 February 20 for the exact statements). Nevertheless, the closing was "rename".

After that, I had an exchange with the closing person, User:BrownHairedGirl, on my own talk page (see User_talk:Pldx1#Closed XfD discussions). I will not comment this exchange, everyone is able to draw her own conclusions. Nevertheless, the passage "their silence is assumed to be assent" is of interest. Do you assent that the Category:Nth-century Korean royalty (or any other name) were to be emptied and replaced by the narrower Category:Nth-century Korean monarchs ? Do you care or not about the strange "Korean monarchs" that can be encountered in the present categories ? Or are you rather with the opinion "let them play with categories" ? After all, if this can't be fixed, don't even try. Pldx1 (talk) 10:47, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

WP:DRV shows how to challenge an XfD close which anyone believes to be mistaken. Sadly, @Pldx1 seems to prefer sounding off rather than finding solutions., which is why I disengaged. Sadly, I am unsurprised to see that Pldx1 is now posting here rather than taking steps to solve the perceived problem.
In this case, if there are non-monarchs now in monarchs categories, the simplest solution is to move the non-monarchs to broader categories. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:35, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
To be honest, I haven't found any Reliable Source to assert explicitly that Lê Túc Tông was not a Korean monarch. Building a consensus before launching a Righteous Suppression Campaign could be better. Pldx1 (talk) 14:40, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
"To be honest, I haven't found any Reliable Source to assert explicitly that Lê Túc Tông was not a Korean monarch." Sorry but your comment is "really funny". You mean that "Lê dynasty" is existed in Korean monarchy??? Be careful, "" is absolutely not "Lee" (or "Yi", Joseon monarchs' first name). More, "Lee" in Korean is pronounced as "Lý" (not "Lê") in Vietnamese. And above all, Lê Túc Tông have a link to wiki page of Vietnamse official history book Đại Việt sử ký toàn thư (considered as an academic source). I think you can't read Vietnamese, or don't know anything about Vietnam's history or Vietnamese names. Otherwise, you have no "funny" comment like this, hahaha. Kenny htv (talk) 14:04, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Links to Kocowa[edit]

There are users using Template:KOCOWA in order to link to Kocowa pages for Korean TV shows, a streaming service. Is this something generally allowed? This would see to be against WP:ELNO - linking to service (even if free) and only works in specific countries (USA). We don't link to Netflix, Amazon Video, or even DramaFever this way. Evaders99 (talk) 07:14, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

I have the same question with Evaders99. I have seen that user Jeongjiyoung (may be the IP and user Yeheeyu added the Kocowa links on the pages of my watchlist and I have all reverted, but this user has also edited many other pages, so I can't continue to revert it manually, this takes lots of time. For me, this is a form of advertising which help the website to increase viewers as well as increase revenue, just like adding a Netflix link to a wiki page about a movie or a variety show. Kenny htv (talk) 10:39, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Looks like that was cleaned up fast. Template deleted and sock'ing user was blocked. Evaders99 (talk) 02:56, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Help with Korean nationality article[edit]

Any history buffs want to take on rewriting the Korean nationality article? I think the article is misleading, as it implies that Korean nationality is a thing that currently exists; in my opinion, this article should be about Korean nationality prior to 1945 (as in the historic country of Korea). The South Korean nationality law and Nationality Law of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea are where information about South Korean and North Korean nationality belong. Happy to help if I can, but this isn't my area of expertise. Lenoresm (talk) 21:55, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

No memory laws in South Korea?[edit]

I am mildly surprised but I cannot find anything. Actually, not much in Asia at all. Really - no legislation about 'it is a crime to deny Japanese crimes' in Korea (or China)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:16, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

IDK about China - but Special law to redeem pro-Japanese collaborators' property, ko:반민족행위처벌법 (failed attempt shortly after ROK establishment, around 1948-49), and so on. related navbox has related articles, except... full of Korean, as you can expect. — regards, Revi 15:37, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
  • It would be a failure for an historian to deny Japanese crimes. On the other hand, criminals are often denying their own wrong doings. All of this is only a part of the "use correct names" pattern. Pldx1 (talk) 09:54, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Reference desk Korean Language question[edit]

I know this is a bit unorthodox, to ask here, but I was wondering if someone who speaks Korean could pop over to my question about a Korean expression/word at the language section of the reference desk, here, since no has answered it despite a few days elapsing, and I assume that's because there are no Korean speakers who frequent that resource. Thanks so much.-- (talk) 14:33, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

For those who watch this page: replied. — regards, Revi 15:22, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

New potential editor interested in Korea[edit]

Hi there! I have a friend who is interested in expanding some topics related to Korea (including creating some new articles), and wondering if someone here might be able to help her get started? If not, I'll go look for someone at the teahouse. Thanks! Atgomez (talk) 05:03, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Well, Teahouse is probably better in general, because here we focus on more technical or reference desk like issues. Ex. we can help with choosing a topic or such, but if they just want to learn how to edit, etc. we are not the best place. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:23, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Broken Ridge Buddhist Temple[edit]

Is this image related to the Broken Ridge Buddhist Temple. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 15:26, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

@Lothe: Try asking at WT:RELIGION? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:31, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

BTS (band) listed at Requested moves[edit]


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Need Korean speaker/reader to look at on Asia Pacific International School[edit]

Had someone add the supposide Korean name for the school to the template box, Google translate makes me suspicious about the edit. If someone could look at the talk page, it would be appreciated. {{u|zchrykng}} {T|C} 02:00, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Spring is Coming[edit]

Are there are any free images we could use? I've added a related image of the North Korean concert in the South. It's hard to get free license images from the North, so I guess we won't be able to illustrate that (outside fair use)...? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:30, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Dreaming tree (Geumcheon-gu 'ggumna')[edit]

Is this notable? And it probably needs a rename. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:20, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Jota (singer) listed at Requested moves[edit]


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Talk:List of best-selling albums in South Korea[edit]

Please leave your comments about changing the format of this list in Talk:List of best-selling albums in South Korea#Combining "all time," "before 2002" and "after 2002" lists?. Thanks. Lenoresm (talk) 17:22, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Founding legends of the Goryeo royal family[edit]

There's a bit of a dispute going on at Founding legends of the Goryeo royal family. Unfortunately, it's a very obscure article and topic that not many people are aware of, so it's just me and an IP. I would greatly appreciate any feedback or comments about the article content itself or the dispute that is going on. Please see the talk page for more information. Thank you. Bamnamu (talk) 23:40, 22 May 2018 (UTC)