Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Linking

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The Trump Organization or The Trump Organization[edit]

If something is called "The Trump Organization" is it better to link the definite article "the", i.e. to The Trump Organization rather than the Trump Organization. The page doesn't seem to cover that. Siuenti (talk) 20:57, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion regarding date linking on portal date-specific pages[edit]

Please come participate in the discussion at WP:VPP#Date links on portal date-specific pages. Thank you. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:47, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Question about overlinking[edit]

I don’t know which words are considered “understood by most readers.”

Should “video game” and/or “multiplayer video game” be linked in articles such as Overwatch (video game) and Team Fortress 2?
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 04:12, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

I won't speak to those specific cases. We usually link commonly understood genres in album articles, but it's not common to see a link to "album" or "studio album" in those same articles. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:27, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
I would think that WP:OVERLINK shouldn't apply as strictly in the opening sentence of an article when linking to the parent article. A link to multiplayer video game in the lede of an article about a specific multiplayer video game is probably okay, but a sentence in a biography such as "He is a fan of video games" wouldn't need to link the term. The link should be as specific as possible, to something like multiplayer video game, Puzzle video game, or a specific genre from List of video game genres. A link directly to video game is less helpful. --Ahecht (TALK
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Hi. Building on what Ahecht wrote, I think the most important issue to consider when it comes to overlinking is WP:EGG. It is important to link to multi-player video game, not multi-, player (game), video and game.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 16:49, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
I agree with what Ahecht and Codename Lisa have said. It'd be better to link "first-person shooter video game" to "first-person shooter" instead of "first-person shooter" being linked and then "video game" being linked. The linking of video game really depends on the context. Having thought about the linking or inclusion of multiplayer, that probably comes down to a case-by-case basis, depending on the features of the game itself. Anarchyte (work | talk) 00:19, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
I agree with these comments. Linking really is an art that we've all been cultivating as editors. And critical to it is using our knowledge of a topic to ration down the links to what we judge is a reasonable compromise in terms of reader utility. Walter's examples of "album" and "studio album" are spot on: too well-known to be useful to readers in general. Those words are part of learning English. I think enough non-video players may read "Overwatch" for "multiplayer video game" to be just on the linkish side of the boundary. Yes. And thanks Papi for raising the question. Tony (talk) 10:02, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

URLs in citations using major citation styles[edit]

There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Citing sources#"Bare" / "Raw" URLs in common style guides regarding how URLs in citations should be formatted. It relates to the part of this guideline (MOS:LINKSTYLE) that states: "The text needs to make sense to readers who cannot follow links. Users may print articles or read offline, and Wikipedia content may be encountered in republished form, often without links." AHeneen (talk) 15:26, 14 May 2017 (UTC)