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How wide is agility?[edit]

1.85 metres according to the Sisu KB-124 DYK currently on the main page. Something may have been lost in translation from Finnish I suspect, or possibly just a careless bit of copy-editing. Trucks can certainly be agile, and the width of a truck (or rather the lack of it) may make for agility, but I can't for the life of me see how the width itself can be agile. Perhaps someone could de-mangle the DYK, before we inflict it on too many more readers... AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:12, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

You might be better served to remove this from here, and to repost it at WP:ERRORS, as described at the instructions at the top of this page. --Jayron32 00:44, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Misleading moto!!![edit]

Not related to the Main Page, as admitted by the original poster, so this is the wrong venue. Take to the the village pump instead. Modest Genius talk 12:34, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Given the experience with editing articles so far, it would be more truthful to change the motto to: The encyclopedia that anyone who understands the norms, socializes him or herself, dodges the impersonal wall of semi-automated rejection and still wants to voluntarily contribute his or her time and energy can edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.70.114.11 (talk)

A reasonable observation, but one that has nothing whatsoever to do with the Main Page, which is the topic of this talk page. I suggest you instead discuss this at the village pump. Modest Genius talk 12:25, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Not true. Anyone CAN edit, but that doesn't mean that all edits will be allowed to stand. --Khajidha (talk) 12:46, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
So, in essence, it's like western-style "democracy" - you have the right to vote, but nobody guarantees you, that you'll have good options to vote for, or that your vote would be acknowledged. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.70.114.10 (talk) 10:11, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Having your edit undone does acknowledge it. It acknowledges that it wasn't worth keeping. Again, as the person wanting to add something it is up to you to convince the community that it is worth keeping if it is challenged or removed. The motto isn't "the encyclopedia anyone can edit in any way and those edits cannot be changed by anyone for any reason." Many people with no concept of the norms of Wikipedia edit everyday and many of their edits become valuable parts of the encyclopedia. I don't know what has got you so riled up, but if there is some edit of yours that was reverted perhaps you should examine it to see if it really was an improvement to the encyclopedia. Just because you worked hard on something doesn't mean it belongs here. --Khajidha (talk) 10:36, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
More importantly "Anyone can edit" doesn't actually apply to the Main Page. I guess you meant motto not moto? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:00, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I meant motto. And I was speaking of the motto itself, not the Main Page - in this wording, it holds a promise, which isn't actually fulfilled. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.70.114.10 (talk) 10:14, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

How about "Anyone can edit * terms and conditions may apply. Others may repeatedly undo your hard work and refuse to explain why causing you to become one of the legion of fair minded people that will no longer contribute"? Lemlinspire (talk) 16:40, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Again, just because you can edit doesn't mean that your edits will remain. At no point is anyone promised that their edits will be maintained. And just because something is hard work doesn't mean it is valuable. If a person's contribution is manifestly not encyclopedic it can and should be removed and explanations are not required. If you are upset about being reverted ASK for reasons. Don't expect them out of the blue. It is the person adding material's responsibility to prove that it belongs if challenged. --Khajidha (talk) 17:57, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Alternatively - create your own wiki (there are 'a number' of wiki farms) and have your rules. Jackiespeel (talk) 22:16, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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