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GA review[edit]

The Sword of Shannara, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by N2e (talkcontribs) 20:25, 3 February 2014‎ (UTC)

Announcing a new WikiProject for Romance[edit]

I've started a new WikiProject for romance and thought I'd see if anyone was interested in joining? Since the scope encompasses more than books< I didn't feel like it could be solely a task force here or on WP:WPBIO. Anyway, I've got the bones set up and will keep working on getting guidelines and tasks hammered out. I'll definitely be pointing people here for the parts that overlap with this WP. Looking forward to getting it rolling and recruiting any interested members! :) plange (talk) 02:34, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Discussion on Work dates in Navboxes[edit]

Important conversation going on at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Templates#Consistent_formatting_of_template_titles_for_navboxes_of_literary_works: please join, 15:29, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Definition of noir[edit]

Noir fiction starts with the (to me) surprising diktat that

Noir fiction (or roman noir) is a literary genre closely related to hardboiled genre with a distinction that the protagonist is not a detective, but instead either a victim, a suspect, or a perpetrator. I'm not sure who uses this definition, but it doesn't seem to be the readers. See Talk:Noir fiction#Not the detective?. Please {{Ping}} me to discuss. --Thnidu (talk) 04:03, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

IP user and plot summaries[edit]

The section heading is from WP Film (which i visited for the first time last hour) where it originated as far as I know three months ago, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Archive 56#IP user and plot summaries.

Six weeks ago, evidently the same person (I posted what follows at WP Film talk too):
Contributions by user 2600:1006:B107:50A:B54A:54DC:4A42:DE45 covers a single 200-minute session 2015-05-10 quite destructive in some cases. The big changes reported in red primarily concern plot summaries. Some of the articles have not been changed subsequently (labeled "current" in that report) and I suppose that some others of the massive deletions remain intact. The High King is a novel I know and I reverted its change 15 hours go.
(end verbatim cross-post)

Commonly the summaries such as "cut the plot to the perfect size" cover simple deletion of whole paragraphs, as much as 80% of the bloated plot summary in one consecutive swath from its middle. --P64 (talk) 15:20, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Probably I should have linked my companion notice to the current WP:FILM talk, namely WT:FILM#IP user and plot summaries. Later that day, User: NinjaRobotPirate replied there in part, "Update: I went through and reverted his edits." --P64 (talk) 15:53, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Copyright Violation Detection - EranBot Project[edit]

A new copy-paste detection bot is now in general use on English Wikipedia. Come check it out at the EranBot reporting page. This bot utilizes the Turnitin software (ithenticate), unlike User:CorenSearchBot that relies on a web search API from Yahoo. It checks individual edits rather than just new articles. Please take 15 seconds to visit the EranBot reporting page and check a few of the flagged concerns. Comments welcome regarding potential improvements. These likely copyright violations can be searched by WikiProject categories. Use "control-f" to jump to your area of interest (if such a copyvio is present). --Lucas559 (talk) 15:36, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Percy Jackson Task-force scope change[edit]

Just informing all here that the Percy Jackson Task-force, under this wikiproject, is most likely about to change its scope to include all the works of children's author Rick Riordan (rather than just his two series about the character Percy Jackson). It may also be changing its name to the "Rick Riordan Task-force", but this is far from certain. I will post updates here as the changes are finalized. 2ReinreB2 (talk) 03:25, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Expanding WP:NOTPLOT[edit]

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not#Expanding NOTPLOT. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 (talk) 12:15, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

RM: The Notebook (2004 film)The Notebook[edit]

An RM that affects this project is currently taking place. Interested editors may wish to discuss here. Chase (talk | contributions) 17:38, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

RfC: Are personal pronouns (including "who") to be avoided for fictional characters?[edit]

Please take part in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#RfC: Are personal pronouns (including "who") to be avoided for fictional characters? Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 23:09, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

The consensus here is coming out pretty overwhelmingly "No, in fact they're standard." The only issue is whether the MoS or MOS:FICTION should state this explicitly or whether it's so obvious and the problem so minor that it can be expected to go without saying. Contributions still welcome. If you know of any edit wars or other conflicts that have arisen because someone wanted to change "a character who" to "a character, which/that," then please contribute. If you know that this problem is rare, please come say so. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:27, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
A more neutral notice than the above: Just FYI, this non-neutrally set up reductio ad absurdum RfC has actually moved on to a more serious discussion about whether MoS should advise rewording to avoid particularly confusing uses of "who[m]" and "[s]he" when writing about fictional characters in an out-of-universe way (e.g. as intellectual property). Further input from projects that actually write encyclopedically about fictional characters a lot would be useful.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  03:51, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

RfC on unusual prepositions in titles[edit]

FYI: Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Please see Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Proposal regarding unusual prepositions in titles (re: clarification request in RM closure).  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  20:43, 22 August 2015 (UTC)