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Page info for dab pages[edit]

It's usually a good thing that Page Info lists "No citations" under "Possible issues", but not in the case of disambiguation pages, which are explicitly not supposed to have citations. Could the Page Curation toolbar be modified to prevent this warning from appearing on any page containing {{disambiguation}}, {{hndis}}, or any of the other variations and aliases for dab tags? Is there a more appropriate place to propose such a change? Thanks! Swpbtalk 15:33, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello? Anyone? This is where the NPF feedback link points; it would be nice if some developers were watching. Swpbtalk 23:30, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
This is the right venue, but developers will not watch this page because with support having been closed down for what is supposedly a 'finished' product, they are not being paid to. I am well aware of this anomaly but I think what you are asking is a relatively minor issue and after over 2 years in operation no one else has raised it. Ergo: just try to live with it. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:54, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, but instead of "trying to live with it", I've raised the issue on Phabricator, and I'm not the first: [1]. It's a genuine software flaw, and it ought to be addressed. Those of us in WikiProject Disambiguation spend too much effort stressing the differences between articles and dab pages to have those efforts contradicted by a highly visible part of the software. Swpbtalk 17:11, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Timing Glitch ?[edit]

(Continued from here: User_talk:Fimatic#Orphan tag on a new article you patrolled .3F)

A few days ago I created a new article that User:Fimatic took the time to patrol, using Wikipedia:Page Curation.

The article was created as an orphan. Within 3 minutes from its creation there was another article linking to it. (And within seconds from its creation, there was a link to its translation on the Danish wikipedia).

In spite of that, several hours later Fimatic sees that the article is an orphan and places an orphan tag in the article.

The next day when I noticed the tag I removed it, since it clearly did not apply (and never did).

So to sum up:

1) The Page Curation tool causes one wikipedian (Fimatic) to spend time tagging an article, that does not need this tag (any longer).

2) (The article thus presents outdated information).

3) Another wikipedian (me) spends time removing the tag.

This seems to be a not optimal way to spend the editors time and it seems that the issue can be fixed by trying to have the page curation tool present a more up-to-date status to the new page patrollers.

(I am aware that by creating a redlink to the article prior to creating the article itself, this timing issue should be prevented but that seems more like a work-around than a solution).

PS. Since a little while articles created by me on the Danish wikipedia are autopatrolled (based on a half-dozen creations). I actually have a lot more experience with the English wikipedia and I frankly think that there is little gained by having new page patrollers review articles I create here. Is there a place where I can suggest that articles I create become autopatrolled also on the English wikipedia? Thanks.

Lklundin (talk) 13:59, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Lklundin. I don't think the feed self-updates. Once it has listed the basic meta data for a new article it's there to stay until the article is patrolled as OK or deleted at which time it's removed from the list.
The place to ask for autopatrolled rights on en.Wiki is Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Autopatrolled but the threshold is a minimum of 50 created articles not including DAB pages or Redirects. Stubs are also generally discounted. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:05, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Curation Toolbar[edit]

Curation Toolbar does not seem to work for me since this morning. I can't mark the page as reviewed and the review mark remains "grey" when I click on it (review option does not pop-out). Are there any technical issues here? --BiH (talk) 15:54, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Doesn't work for me either: I try Prod or AfD and get "Tag afd is missing required parameter." Imaginatorium (talk) 09:04, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Same for me: can't mark stuff as reviewed. I wonder if nudging Okeyes might get the relevant people at the Foundation to push the relevant buttons to make this work again. Face-smile.svgTom Morris (talk) 15:50, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

@Quiddity (WMF):, it's time to play pass the parcel! :D Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 16:41, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

I have the same problem, all buttons work fine except the tick and tag buttons. Although the deletion button works, this is very strange. Is there a fix? Arbustum (talk) 17:28, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Glitch with buttons[edit]

I have a problem. When I click the Mark as reviewed (tick) button, the button does not respond/do anything. Another problem is the add tags button which has the same problem. Other buttons work fine, including the nominate page for deletion button. Is there are fix to this? Thank you. Arbustum (talk) 17:26, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Same as above, merging --Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 17:29, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Swpb filed it as phab:T84996 already (thanks!). I'll try to find out who has experience with, and time to, work with this. There's a freeze on code deployments until the new year, so nothing can change until Jan 7, at a minimum. --Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 17:29, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
@Quiddity (WMF): Could you amend the bug report to note that it also is happening with Safari on OSX 10.7? Oiyarbepsy (talk) 21:50, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

This should be working now - please confirm. Emergency fix deployed, and staff have been staying well after normal hours to keep an eye on it. Ping me if there are further problems. --Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 03:31, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

No. I still get "Tag speedy deletion-duplicate article is missing required parameter." when I try to enter the article name. I'm not sure if this is exactly the same problem as above, but I cannot seem to do anything with the curation tool as of a couple of days ago. Imaginatorium (talk) 03:49, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Patroller note: No problems found. Unable to replicate the issues. That said, on Mac OSX 10.10.1 Yosemite, (iMac 2013, MacMini 2012, MacMini 2014, MacBookPro late 2014), New Page Feed / Page Curation displays and works much faster in Firefox 33.1.1 than in Safari 8.0.2. Trouble shooting may be easier for the devs (if of course any are watching), with precise details of the platform and browser versions being used. AFAICS, if there are no probs on my machines, then it is not necessarily a WMF bug. Mac users should consider updating their software - it's free and extremely easy but Yosemite certainly looks horrible but like a lot of WMF stuff, it's forced on us so we just have to get used to it ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:36, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
    I feel like "staff staying well after normal hours to keep an eye on it" is probably not the best message to respond to with snarky WMF-bashing (no, it being flippant as well as snarky does not make it better). Grow up. Ironholds (talk) 12:46, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
    Yes, I personally appreciate the work that the Foundation staff have done to fix this. (I'll do my bit over the next week to patrol the crap out of the new pages feed as a thank you. Face-smile.svg) —Tom Morris (talk) 13:04, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Seems fixed to me. (I use OS X Yosemite with the latest version of Opera.) —Tom Morris (talk) 12:07, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Right, well after a 3-hour stint at NPP (unpaid, and after hours, of course), and still with a genuine sense of humour and at my age - and let us not forget whose efforts led to the tool being developed in the fist place all those years ago), I finally discover that indeed all is not well with the curation tool. I find that the button for adding the required rationales for COPYVIO and PROD is in fact dead. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:57, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
    • I've updated phab:T84996 with a screenshot of the issue and a vaguely-technical note. Thanks. (Many of the staff devs are taking this week off, and I don't think further software deployments are going to be allowed until the new year anyway, but I'll ask around just in case.) --Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 18:53, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Christmas Eve bug-fix deployed (with much thanks to SPage and MFlaschen) specifically https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/181752/ (something something jQuery update broke old parameters something).
Everything should work now - I've tested a few tags, and PROD, and they all work as expected - but let me know if it doesn't, and I'll investigate on Monday.
Happy Holidays to you all, and kudos for the damn fine task you do here. :) --Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 00:46, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

{{Not English}}[edit]

Hello! While using the Page Curation toolbar, I noticed that {{Not English}} isn't an available tag. Could it be considered as a future addition? Have a great day, MJ94 (talk) 07:57, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi MJ94. See Curation Toolbar > Writing Style > Incorrect language This page is written in an incorrect language and needs translation. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:22, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Kudpung! I looked, but I must have missed it. Have a good day! MJ94 (talk) 18:36, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Review interface still available?[edit]

I have not done NPP for a while (I guess a couple of months), and today I had some spare time, but whatever I tried, I could not find the review interface anymore. (I have my que counted from the oldest, so I tried the three oldest unreviewed entries and a couple of more, always with the same effect). Am I the only one who can not access the interface, or is it a generic problem?--Ymblanter (talk) 11:58, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

It appears now; not sure what it was but thanks to whoever fixed the issue.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:43, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Number of "pages in your filtered list" not changing[edit]

This has been talked about almost two years ago (see Wikipedia_talk:Page_Curation/Archive_6#.23_of_articles), but is there any chance of this being fixed? The number in the upper right corner changes when you change a "Show:" filter (unreviewed pages, reviewed pages, etc.), but not when you change a "That:" filter (have no categories, are orphaned, etc.). ~EdGl! 02:11, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Stub tagging[edit]

This is creating a huge backlog at Category:Stubs (which is a deprecated category) because it tags things with Template:Stub, instead of one of the many other stub templates.  Liam987(talk) 00:43, 19 March 2015 (UTC)