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Commonwealth Winter Games

Can someone add a Pakistani viewpoint on this? Commonwealth Winter Games (talk) 14:06, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

The article's just speculation, the state government is apparently trying to get it as a venue, till either the Pakistani Government or press comment on this (if they comment) then there is no viewpoint to add. Pahari Sahib 08:20, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Proposed move...

...of History of India. Please provide inputs at the discussion. Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 15:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shair Siddiqui

There is an Articles for deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shair Siddiqui about Shair Siddiqui, a Pakistani writer who I think writes primarily in Urdu. If you have access to an article about him in another language's Wikipedia or if you are familiar with his work, could you please expand the article and participate in the Articles for deletion discussion? -- Eastmain (talk) 07:01, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Brave man

WOuld someone like to check out Najeeb Ahmed (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and see if we can allow him to be described as "Brave" ? It seems very POV and I would prefer someone with more specific knowledge and interest than myself, a new-page patroller, to deal with. --Triwbe (talk) 14:34, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Akbar the Great

A discussion is in progress for the improvement of the article. Please provide your inputs. Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 14:53, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Pakistani cinema

Please check this. --Enric Naval (talk) 21:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Removing irrelevant Tags from Shakeel Siddiqui article

The article on Shakil Siddique (comedian) has been tagged for Peacock Terms, lack of neutrality, notability, and copy editing since October 2008. It was in a bad shape when I first read it but I have been making improvements and I think these tags are no longer applicable. How can these tags be removed? Anaverageguy (talk) 02:17, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Status of 'Port Qasim' article

I have recently done restructuring of Port Qasim. Details have been posted in the discussion page. I want to propose to review the subject article for 'B' or 'C' class. Currently it is marked as "Start Class Article" in the WikiProject_Pakistan.

Secondly I think the article should be rated as of Mid importance in WikiProject_Pakistan as:

  1. It is currently Pakistan's second largest port, handling some 35% of country's trade through sea.
  2. The shifting of oil terminals from Karachi port and major expansion projects in PQ will make the role of PQ much more vital in near future.

Currently it is of ??? importance.


ISQureshi (talk) 02:07, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Korangi Town [Duplicate Articles]

Korangi Town in Karachi has 2 articles. It is requested that 1 of them should be deleted. References: —Preceding unsigned comment added by M. Zohaib Akhter (talkcontribs) 12:54, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Ahmad Hasan Dani

Ahmad Hasan Dani is GA now. --IslesCapeTalk 19:06, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

God job Islescape we want more of this kind.--yousaf465' 06:07, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Kot Najeebullah

I have had interaction with Tuopuo (talk · contribs) on their talk page and mine regarding deletion of the subject article. User:Tuopuo is asserting that the article is a duplicate of Kot Najibullah. I have directed them to AfD, but I am hoping that editors here could be of more assistance in resovling the issue. User:Tuopuo seems to have a valid point but I have no experience with Pakistani naming conventions and would invite any help available. Thanks Tiderolls 20:08, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

The issue has been resolved. sorry for not posting the icon.--yousaf465' 14:37, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Haji Muhammad Salah Mugheri

Another editor has nominated Haji Muhammad Salah Mugheri, a village in Sindh, for deletion. If you can improve the article by adding a reference, please do so. - Eastmain (talk) 19:12, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Kambar City

The article Kambar City lacks references. Kambar City is a community in Sindh. If you can improve the article by adding a reference, please do so. - Eastmain (talk) 19:12, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Jammu and Kashmir article should have Pakistani POV section also

I have ecently noticed how Indian POV pushers are trying to vandalise Azad Kashmir article. Now we also have a claim to the Indian Occupied Kashmir, and I think out editors should start putting up Pakistani POV in Jammu and Kashmir article as well. Since at the moment to a neutral viewer, visiting both J &K and azad kashmir articles, it would seem that only Azad Kashmir is disputed and while J &K is a part of India —Preceding unsigned comment added by HussainAbbas (talkcontribs) 22:31, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

pakistan has to show itself a powerfull and independent country —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:15, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Discussion regarding the Inclusion or Removal of Urdu-language Scripts

Hello, there is a current discussion here regarding the inclusion or deletion of Urdu scripts in film titles. Any comments would be appreciated. With regards, AnupamTalk 23:10, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

And what does Pakistan have to do with Hindi cinema? ShahidTalk2me 23:31, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
You can find an answer to your query here. I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 23:47, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Oh you're saying that as if it was new to me, while I am the one who mostly edited this and many other sections in this article. ShahidTalk2me 23:50, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
I did not realize that you did major work on the section. I apologize for my word choice. I actually initially wrote that section, however and thought I would share the information with you. Thanks, AnupamTalk 23:53, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Mohsin Naqvi

The article Mohsin Naqvi has been prodded (I disputed the prod) and I think it may be nominated for deletion soon. The subject appears notable to me although I'm having trouble finding reliable sources. I thought someone at this wikiproject might want to consider working on the article (its likely to need proficiency in Urdu) to find sources to support the subject's notability. --Mkativerata (talk) 14:14, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

hello i ma furqan —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:12, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

in aligrama old people are (rama khel,niamat khel,miangan).the locality are educated and aware of politics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muslim shah (talkcontribs) 18:09, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Kotla Arab Ali Khan

Could someone with more knowledge about the topic than me try to clean up this article please? It seems to have been thoroughly hijacked and has all sorts of stuff in it which I'm pretty sure shouldn't be there, but short of reverting right back to the original stub, I don't know what, if anything, should be kept. Thanks. -- DMS (talk) 22:38, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

It needs a complete rewrite, so taking it back to a stub may be the place to start. – ukexpat (talk) 16:16, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
article reverted to original material about Kotla Arab Ali Khan, removing edits which had changed it into an article about Nandwal. -- DMS (talk) 17:07, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

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Request for Help on Dawood Group

There's been some issue of conflict of interest in the editting of the article on the Dawood Group. I'm not familiar with Pakistan and its major companies. I was hoping somebody from Wikiproject Pakistan could step in and help. Thanks. -- Whpq (talk) 15:53, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Army Public School and College

The Army Public School and College article needs a new name, to reflect which "Army" is involved. Any of these names would seem to be acceptable: "Pakistan Army Public School and College" or "Army of Pakistan Public School and College" or "Army Public School and College (Pakistan)". Is one better than another? Tim Ross (talk) 10:14, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

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Nida Sameer

There's a stub article on Urdu language TV presenter Nida Sameer, formerly Nida Fatima, which has been nominated for deletion by PROD tag. I am removing that tag as the person seems notable, the article just needs development IMHO. Can someone add sources or more info to the article? --doncram (talk) 16:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Commonwealth Winter Games has been prodded for deletion

FYI, someone has WP:PRODded the Commonwealth Winter Games article for deletion. (talk) 09:53, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Template:Pakistani English=

FYI, {{Pakistani English}} has been nomiated for deletion. (talk) 05:37, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Salah ud-Din Muhammad Khan

Hi, Can anyone take a look at Salar ud-din Muhammad Khan. There is a discussion going on in the talk page about which is the correct name of the MNA and whether to move the article or not.Thanks!--Sodabottle (talk) 16:27, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

The article's name has now been changed to Salah ud-Din Muhammad Khan, which must be less wrong. One outstanding question is this subject's relationship to the last nawab of Bahawalpur. Possibly it's the same person, as indicated in the refs given on the talk page. Can anyone confirm or deny this? SamuelTheGhost (talk) 13:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

GA Review of Akmal Shaikh on hold

The GA review of the Akmal Shaikh article, which is tagged as being within the scope of this project, has been on hold for over 30 days. It is near to being passed, but the Akmal_Shaikh#Reaction section needs editing to reduce the amount of direct quotation as per Wikipedia:Quotations, and also to be trimmed in general to meet GA criteria 3(b): "stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail". Any assistance in this matter would be appreciated. See Talk:Akmal Shaikh/GA1 for more detail. (If you feel that the article does not fall under the scope of this project, please remove the project tag from the article talkpage). SilkTork *YES! 10:36, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

The article has now passed. As the article does not fall under the scope of this project, the project tag has been removed from the article talkpage. ~~

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AfD nomination for PEARL Institute of Management & Information Technology, Quetta

See the nomination. I believe the institute is notable, and I request anyone familiar with the topic to help with providing credible second party references.

In any case, please participate in the vote SPat talk 22:50, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Greater pakistan

Greater pakistan has been prodded for deletion. (talk) 07:12, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Prodded and deleted as a recreation of a article deleted after an AfD discussion; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greater pakistan. LessHeard vanU (talk) 09:39, 28 March 2010 (UTC)


At Shoukatabad various IPs are having a low-level edit war over who belongs in the list of "Notable People". This is probably harmless, but could someone who knows the language please check that the various versions of the list contain only names and not insults? John of Reading (talk) 08:23, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

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National Flag of Islamic Republic of Pakistan

Can anyone help me obtain so we can have the most accurate drawing of the Pakistani flag as possible? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 08:09, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Nawaz Sharif

Can some knowledgeable editors look at this article, which currently has many unsourced defamatory claims ? Examples (from the lead alone!):

  • "end of his final term in a dramatic change after intense standoff which included an attack masterminded by his brother on the supreme court."
  • "He claims he is the only Pakistani politician that does not belongs to any family feudals yet he claims he was born with a silver spoon and lives like a king."
  • "He claims his family was the richest in country to hide his corruption."
  • "He actually belongs to a hard working class family of Punjab but claims otherwise."

Unfortunately I could not even find a problem-free version that I could revert to. Most of the edits over the past month seem to be by IPs and new accounts. I'll semi-protect the article for a month to provide experienced neutral editors some room to get it into shape and at a minimum, compliance with WP:BLP. Regards. Abecedare (talk) 22:03, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Pakistani rupee

The article contains several images of banknotes and coins. Problem is that they are falsely licensed (as Public domain) and those correctly licensed ({{Non-free currency}}) need fair use rationales. Unless someone fixes those images they will be deleted in the future. feydey (talk) 13:11, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Nishtar Medical College

Hey guys, i just checked out my college's page and found out its spelled wrong,, The Nisthar is spelled with an "e" when its suppose to be an "a". Check it out guys and try to fix it up, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noobdoc (talkcontribs) 10:37, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Articles which need fixing

Can someone with access to accurate sourcing/knowledge of the area take a look at Lodhran and Lodhran District. I have been trying to look for sources to clean up these articles, but there does not seem to be any info in English. The pages have been built mostly by IP edits, and I honestly have no idea what is vandalism and what isn't. The "people" sections could especially use a look. Thank you for your time, and let me know if I can help out in any way. -RunningOnBrains(talk) 03:14, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

No article on Sipah-e-Mohammed Pakistan Shi'a militant group?

Is there any reason there's no article on the Sipah-e-Mohammed Pakistan Shi'a militant group? I would start a stub, but not quite sure if there are dynamics I'm missing here for why there is no article, or whether it's filed as something else and just needs a redirect. Suggestions? MatthewVanitas (talk) 18:36, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Well Sipah-e-Muhammed Pakistan the Shia Militant group, has hardly made any news from the very beginning of its Existence, and now when there are questions over the very existence of this organization. Neither there is any news article in particularly emphasizing the role of Sipah-e-Muhammed in sectarian terrorism in Pakistan. I hope you understand. Regards! SyedMANaqvi (talk) 06:18, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

New article on Ahmadiyya militia/combat units: Furqan Force, Ahmadiyya Militia

In my current track of writing articles on milita/self-defense/etc. units of religious minority groups, I've tracked down info on two combatant groups of the Ahmadiyya sect: one combat group that fought against India in Kashmir, and one self-defense militia during partition. If anyone else has good info on similar militant Ahmadiyya groups, those would be good to start stubs on too. MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:26, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

hi. Im a british born indian, christian with elederly parents. My dad originated from this area FAISALABAD-how can i locate my ancestory for this area??? infact, i am yet to loacate my mums birth place called baba-dharia??? does anyone know? i would be very grateful, as i am keen to find a family history and some past knowledge of my fore-fathers home? your support and advice is most grefullt recieved.

many thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:37, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Photo request

Who is in the Karachi area, near Jinnah International Airport? Would someone mind photographing the Pakistan International Airlines head office? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 23:42, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Bloch tribe in district chiniot'

in chiniot district there are clan of bloch tribe

1.RIND(MUMBAR) in tehsile bohwana mouza durrta.

famous personalaties of this clan are:

1.KHAN NOOR AHMAD(ex.dep,finance punjab)

2.khan yousaf MUMBAR







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Sports Personalities

Naseem late - Former captain of Pakistan national volley ball team Basharat Mughal - Former member of Pakistan national volley ball team, played in KSA also —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:45, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Help needed

Can someone please take a look at Constituency PP-155? Needs clean up by someone knowledgeable. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 13:11, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject South Asia

FYI, WP:WikiProject South Asia has been tagged as inactive. (talk) 08:01, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Hmm.. I wasn't really aware of it. It should be an important project. __meco (talk) 08:19, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Butter village

Could a few extra editors have a glance at this article: Butter_village. It's a sensitive topic that needs oversight of neutrality and accuracy. (talk) 03:06, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles need attention

I want to bring to the attention of the project's members this discussion at AN/I. Basically, a vandal changed the articles Sooianwala and Soianwala (which shouldn't have both existed simultaneously) so that they referred to "Vanike Tarar". Because of the confusion created, and the lack of references in the articles, what was left at the end were two stub articles Sohianwala (which was a stub before all this began) and Vanike Tarar. Both articles need to be fleshed out, but only with referenced information. Unreferenced information, OR and POV additions to these articles will be removed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:15, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

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Langar Makhdoom

I declined to speedily delete this as it seems to be about a place in Pakistan. COuld not source. Thanks, Dlohcierekim 19:57, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

New template

I've noticed that articles on this WikiProject seemed to be largely ignored so I've created a template on Medals of Pakistan (Military) for users to easily navigate articles. Here it is, i hope you like it. It still needs some work done for it to be fully complete, but generally it'll have to do for now. These are the main medals that are used. Unactive medals haven't been listed yet. NarSakSasLee (talk) 00:23, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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Quit Kashmir Movement (2010)

This article needs help from editors knowledgeable about the issue and is currently a POV mess. Thanx.--Wikireader41 (talk) 18:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox Sindh jurisdiction

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Blitz Bureau

Help needed in improving this article:

B@B!Oo (talk) 17:34, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Suneeta Marshall

The article Suneeta Marshall has been raised at the BLP noticeboard as having numerous problems, including potential lack of notability and a total lack of references.

A quick Google search seems to suggest the individual is actually quite well known in Pakistan. Someone from here may wish to looking into improving the article. Even adding two or three reliable sources would be a massive improvement.

--Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:49, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

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Call for review and restructure: Balochistan, Balochistan conflict, Baloch people

Hello, I'd like to raise an issue for the attention of members of this project. I've made some comments under the heading above on the Talk page for Balochistan, Pakistan. I hope they'll be seen as constructive. Rubywine (talk) 17:05, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

FAR nomination 2007 Samjhauta Express bombings

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Hello, my friends: A group of us are working on clearing the backlog at The article in the above header has been without sources for the past four years and may be removed if none are added. I wonder if you can help do so. Sincerely, and all the best to you, GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:15, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

There we go. Pahari Sahib 22:30, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Pakistan International Airlines building

From this aerial view of the airport at File:Jinnah_International_Airport.jpg, who knows which building is the Pakistan Airlines building? Obviously the big building is the main terminal. But which building houses the airline head office? WhisperToMe (talk) 06:30, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Sammas are also called Ahir Ranas.

Dear Permabanned editor Internet scholar aka history sleuth, don't confuse Yadav with jadaun and also don't forget the same Sammas are called Ahir Ranas. Ikon No-Blast 07:13, 18 October 2010 (UTC) (from page rajput discussion section) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumitkachroo (talkcontribs) 10:36, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Spelling: Shia vs. Shi'a vs. Shiite -- Discussion at WP:ISLAM

For anyone with input regarding possible WP standardisation of the word Shia, Shiite, Shi'a, please provide input at the following page: Shia/Shiite/Shi'a at WP:ISLAM. MatthewVanitas (talk) 03:09, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

`Love stories of Pakistan

Dear Sirs/Madams

I have gone through most of the Love stories on the Wikipedia and you have very rightly indicated that all of them needs to be re-written. Most of them are in complete and very key elements are missing. Well it may not be easy to understand the significance of these stories for an outsider, considering this region gives out a very conservative image and women folks are still highly oppressed my the mail dominated society. But these stories are considered "Spirtitual"and "Divine"and each an every person living in even the remotest nook and cornor of the country has heard them and there situations and some of the language is even used in the day to day dialogue. Perhaps just like Romeo Julliat by Shekspear being quoted by the litrary society of England. These stories not only live in the books and folklore of the region but these dwell in the hearts of people and I witnessed myself many a times even the most rigid person wetting his or her eyes upon listening to them. Then there is another problem of accuracy of the ocntent, as many people have tried to write and re-write these epic tales. To connect these with the historical time line would be another challange. In short I feel this section needs a lot of attention from the editors of this website and some experts needs to inducted for autenticity, other wise these would stay as confusing and meaning less as they are. I would really like to contruibute what ever I can but to be honest I know very little about it and its beyond my comprehension to tell right from wrong.

Ayub Munir —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:21, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mehboob-e-Yazdaan

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A search for references found LOTS of self promotation web pages, and no published (gBooks) references, no mention of notability in article fails WP:N.

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Help needed with JS Group

Hi guys, some weeks ago an IP user added a whole bunch of text to this article, covering alleged financial crimes, fraud, corruption etc, committed by the owner of this group. It is fully unreferenced and poorly written, especially there is no neutral point of view. But I thought that the information itself might be relevant, so I didn't remove it. I am neither an expert on financial subjects nor on Pakistan, so I cannot improve the article by myself. But I'm quite sure the right one to do so is a member of this Wikipedia project, which is why I'm posting the matter here. Thanks for your help! (Initially I wrote this at WP:India, sorry for the double post) Per aspera ad Astra (talk) 21:41, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Punjab International Public School

I have removed the fake Top priority and Featured Article listing from this talk page. Could members of the Pakistan project please provide careful follow up of new articles and such listings? Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 06:38, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Nisar Ali Khan

Nisar Ali Khan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) I have removed some text from the infobox in response to a post at the Help desk. Can someone who knows the language please unravel the recent edits to this article? -- John of Reading (talk) 07:58, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Climate of Karachi

I made this article and I need some help from other Pak users to give it a status of "Good article"..HunterZone (talk) 16:45, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Ambassadors of Pakistan to Bahrain

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Category:Ambassadors of Pakistan to Bahrain, which is related to this WikiProject, has been nominated by another editor for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 January 28#Category:Ambassadors of Pakistan to Bahrain on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 04:21, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

New article: New Pakistan International School, Hawalli

This article has been flagged for multiple issues and may soon be deleted or redirected.Kudpung (talk) 10:10, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Can anyone rescue Baghochi Mahaz?

The article Baghochi Mahaz is just bafflingly bad; anyone fell like taking a stab? MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:51, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I did a full re-write just from context, and I think it at least makes some sense now. Two things though: would بغوچی محاذ be the right spelling? Also, I can't find any mention of this online at all, outside of wikimirrors. Notability? MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:35, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

requesting help with Akbarpura article

Hello, I am a new Wikipedian, and in my learning process I've been trying to make copy edit improvements to an interesting article about Akbarpura. I need the help of an expert in this field. This article does not comply with the neutral point of view rule, and also needs verifiable sources. Does anyone have suggestions?Octopet (talk) 18:40, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Does anyone know of a verifiable source for the current population of Akbarpura? Octopet (talk) 20:26, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Is Anti-Pakistan Movement a legit NPOV/academic term?

One article I noted (Shabbir Ahmad Usmani) uses the redlink Anti-Pakistan Movement; was that a specific recognised movement, or is that just a negative term pro-Pakistan folks used to label political movements they disagreed with? If the former, is it worth having an article on? If the latter, is it worth having an article on a political label or theme, even if never self-applied?MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:19, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Jhangochi, Rachnavi and Saraiki language

I have recently undone the creation of redirects from Jhangochi and Rachnavi to Saraiki language. I don't know whether or not the redirects were valid but I could see no evidence of discussion. Can I have an informed opinion on it?

While I am on the subject, I notice that there are some other articles redirecting to Saraiki language. For example, Derawali was turned into a redirect on the 24th of January.

Yaris678 (talk) 01:08, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

New article Exit Control List

Saw this term mentioned in the Bhatti article, so made a stub, Exit Control List. Would it be worth making a list of notable (blue-link) people who have been on this list, maybe with a short description why? Any other good ideas how to expand the article? It seems pretty frequently used as a political weapon. MatthewVanitas (talk) 22:46, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Shahbaz Bhatti

There is a question, at that article, over his use of the name Clement, which seems to be used in some (not reliable) sources, but not in the more reliable recent sources. Can anyone here advise, on that article's talk page? Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:21, 4 March 2011 (UTC)


Qaimkhani is in need of serious work, and honestly I don't even know where to begin. Anon users are periodically adding content, but they all seem to have a terrible grasp of Wikitext. Anyone interested in taking on this mess? (I'm cross-posting this at WikiProject Rajasthan.) —INTRIGUEBLUE (talk|contribs) 10:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

This has already been cleanup through auspices of WikiProject Rajasthan. AshLin (talk) 12:05, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
I don't think anyone is alive at this noticeboard. There's a discussion going on the much wider topic of Pakistan-related topics at User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 73#Embarrassing btw. -- œ 21:34, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Sadat Tirmzi is also known as Kunar syed's olad of pir baba Syed Ali Tirmzi, the Pathans community in Balochistan and Afganistan mainly femilar with the name kunar syed . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syed shah22 (talkcontribs) 14:13, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Focusing effort on highest-visibility yet worst-quality Pakistan articles?

As we've noted in past months/years, Pakistan articles have ongoing issues on unsourced content. Rather than get concerned (in the short-term) about articles on villages of 400 people with content like "people here are being very noble and proud, but many have migrated to YORKSHIRE, UK", we can instead focus on articles getting high visibility which have gaping flaws. Personally, before deciding what articles to buckle-down on I tend to use to get some idea of monthly hit rates. If folks want to specifically point out an article of high visibility (perhaps 10K hits per month?) maybe a couple of us can team up and tackle that one, and then move on to another high-visibility article. MatthewVanitas (talk) 20:35, 1 April 2011 (UTC)


The WP:BLP article on Shakeel could use some expert eyes for sourcing and content. I've been trying to source it, but have been having difficulty identifying which sources are reliable. Thanks! Dreadstar 18:57, 7 April 2011 (UTC)


All opinions welcome. walk victor falk talk 10:05, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Transgender tax collectors in Pakistan

I found:

WhisperToMe (talk) 05:52, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Jamal Ahsani

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Photo requests

Hi! I have photo requests at Jinnah Airport in Karachi:

  • Pakistan Airlines head office
  • Pakistan Civil Aviation Organization office
  • PIA Training Centre
  • PIA Engineering

Their locations can be seen in Google maps Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 20:08, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

22 May 2011 attack

Ongoing edits (as sources shift) over at PNS Mehran. Hcobb (talk) 20:29, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs - the final surge

Since early in 2010, many editors have assisted in the referencing or removal of over 90% of the Unreferenced Biographies of Living People, bringing the total down from over 50,000 to the current 4,862 (as of 16:10, 1 June 2011 (UTC)). Thank you for all of the work you've done to date, but we are now asking for your help in finishing this task. There are two main projects which are devoted to removing UBLPs from en.Wikipedia:

All you have to do is pick your articles and then add suitable references from reliable sources and remove the {{BLP unsourced}} template. There is no need to log your changes, register or remove the articles from the list. If you need any help, or have any comments, please ask at WP:URBLPR or WT:URBLP.

Thank you for any assistance you can provide. The-Pope (talk) 16:10, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

سیکو ڑٹی ادارے

آج ایک اور ماں کا بیٹا اپنے ہی محافظو کے ہاتہوں موت کے گھاٹ اتار دیا گیا کیا ہمارے سیکو ڑ ٹی ادارے ہماری حفاظت کے لیے ہیں ؟ کیا ہم اپنےسیکو ڑ ٹی اداروں سے سوال کرنے کا حق رکھتے ہیں یا نہیں ؟ افواج پاکستان زندباد مجھے اپنی افواج پر فخر ہے لیکن ؟ ہمارے بزرگو نے پاکستان بناتے وقت قربنیوں دی تو ہم اس کو بچانے کے لیے قر قربنیا دے سکتے ہیں — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:36, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Pakistan Navy

Hi there,

Would it be possible to get an organigram done for Pakistan Navy showing ships, bases commands, etc. There is something to start from on the website.

Also, the air arm of the Navy created a UAV/drone squadron based out of PNS Mehran. There's a video here: , but I don't speak any Urdu so don't know what's being said. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Methna7 (talkcontribs) 14:49, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

List articles: hospitals and schools

There are many such lists that read like a directory and contain few blue links. I don't know what to do with them. Suggestions? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:17, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Article alerts

Wikipedia:WikiProject Pakistan/Article alerts has been created; generating Article alerts for this WikiProject. Timrollpickering (talk) 21:54, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

BTW, it's a good idea to transclude the alerts on your project's main page. Or at least link to in a rather prominent way. Otherwise you won't get as many people seeing them. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 19:36, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Category discussion:Former pupils by secondary school in Pakistan

Category:Former pupils by secondary school in Pakistan and its various sub-categories have been nominated for renaming to a consistent form. The discussion is here. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:11, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

H. M. Khoja


I'm a member of Wikiproject Unreferenced BLP Rescue. I've been trying to find reliable sources for the article on H. M. Khoja which makes a case for him having some impact to education in Pakistan. There's stuff like schools, and a road named after him. But I can't find any articles written about him. Perhaps there are non-English sources. Could a member of Wikiproject Pakistan assist? You help would be greatly appreciated. -- Whpq (talk) 18:54, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

As it turns out, the subject is deceased. It's still lacking references, but it's now off the BLP list. -- Whpq (talk) 15:46, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Experienced editors with specialist regional knowledge urgently wanted

The Arbitration Committee is seeking to appoint additional people to the CheckUser and Oversight teams, in particular people with specialist knowledge.

Because of increasing activity in the South Asian, Southeast Asian, or Middle Eastern regions, CheckUser applications are particularly sought from people who not only meet our general requirements but also are familiar with the ISPs and typical editing patterns of any of these regions.

Successful candidates are likely to be regularly available and already familiar with local and global processes, policies, and guidelines especially those concerning CheckUser and Oversight. CheckUser candidates are expected to be technically proficient, and previous experience with OTRS is beneficial for Oversight candidates. All candidates must at least 18 years of age; have attained legal majority in their jurisdiction of residence; and be willing to identify to the Wikimedia Foundation prior to receiving permissions. If you think you may be suitably qualified, please see the appointments page for further information. The application period is scheduled to close 18 September 2011.  Roger Davies talk 15:49, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Swabi District

Swabi District is in need of attention. It is continuously being edited with personal opinions, no sources, poor formatting, disregard for the Manual of Style/Layout guidelines. I just removed a phone number from one section and a random image of some random guy in another. I don't even know where to start and am not familiar with the subject. I was hoping that someone could take a look at it who is familiar with the subject, Wikipedia standards, and the English language. — Preceding undated comment added 13:15, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion notification

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hindu and Buddhist heritage of Pakistan 2

Hi - this article is up for deletion because it appears to duplicate other articles without bringing anything new to the table. Please have a look and weigh in, Shiva, Lord Black Adder 05:49, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Dear Honorable President of Pakistan Asif Ali Zardari, I must respectfully regard of the President of Pakistan Asif Ali Zardari that, your government can continuous developing of country projects. And I must regard of Federal government who was given approval to the Punjab government; for new design roads of Lahore city. And I must regard of which arranging meeting President of Pakistan Asif Ali Zardari against drain attacks. Inshallah I hope that those meeting bringing good results. And I must regard of that, the President of Pakistan Asif Ali Zardari playing must correctly our role, in developing of our nation. Wassalam, Syed Najam ul Hasan Hamdani — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:15, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Naghmana Jaffry

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The article Naghmana Jaffry has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No evidence that this singer meets the notability guidelines for musicians. No reliable sources found to support a claim to notability. Refs used in article are just listings and not reliable.

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Generic vs specific

The theme of the article is confused, to me. I've asked for a title change to the generic topic. Talk:Pakistan_Studies_curriculum. Tony (talk) 03:59, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Move of possible interest

See Requested move. --regentspark (comment) 16:23, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

So called " Dominion of " Pakistan

The following is an extract from the Indian Independence Act 1947:

[Section]1.-(i) As from the fifteenth day of August, ninteen hundred and forty-seven, two independent Dominions shall be set up in India, to be known respectively as India and Pakistan.

The following is from the text of an important (self-explanatory) UN resolution from 1947:

"The General Assembly: Taking note of the applications for membership submitted to the United Nations by Pakistan and

Yemen, and of the recommendation of the Security Council that the Assembly admit Pakistan and Yemen to membership,Determines that Pakistan and Yemen are, in its judgement, peace-loving States, within the meaning of Article 4 of the Charter, and are able and willing to carry out their obligations under the Charter, and consequently, "Decides to admit Pakistan and Yemen as Members of the United Nations."

The following are a sample (sample only) of the many treaties during the period that Pakistan was a Dominion. In none is Pakistan described as the "Dominion of Pakistan":

There is no dispute but that Pakistan was indeed a Dominion between 1947 and 1956. However, it is abundently clear that both its common name and its official name was never the "Dominion of Pakistan" although that term was used sometimes. Its official name during that period was simply Pakistan. Accordingly the article called "Dominion of Pakistan" should be moved to something more appropriate e.g. "Pakistan (Dominion)" and the article revised accordingly. I want to raise this here so as to (i) reach consensus as to the facts; and (ii) agree where the article should be moved. NelsonSudan (talk) 18:21, 28 July 2011 (UTC)'Italic text'

-Yes; you're quite right in this instance, although the term "Dominion of Pakistan" was in sporadic official use:'s a treaty between Pakistan and India, dated 30th of June 1948.In it, both India and Pakistan are referred to as "the Dominion of India" and the "Dominion of Pakistan" JWULTRABLIZZARD (talk) 11:20, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I think this is similar to the current constitutional name being "Islamic Republic of Pakistan" while court and government documents usually read "Government of Pakistan" instead of "Government of Islamic Republic of Pakistan". I could be wrong. --lTopGunl (talk) 19:17, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Ainak Wala Jin Page

The page for Ainak Wala Jin has a message for lack of notability. I think this topic is notable enough in the context of Pakistan so that warning should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Umair amin (talkcontribs) 14:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

 Done --lTopGunl (talk) 18:54, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Notice re article Khattar

Dear friends Many salams. I wanted to inform you that I have posted a 'Dispute' notice on the above article as I have been editing it gradually, for quite some time, in accordance with Wiki verifiablity and general editing standards, but someone keeps tampering with it and adding material which does not meet any such standards and I feel its a shame, and one cant just go on editing and re-editing it time and again. Please, do visit the article Talk page and help in resolving this dispute once and for all. Thank you. Khani100 (talk) 11:57, 4 December 2011 (UTC)Khani100