Wikipedia talk:Policies and guidelines

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Turning WP:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle (WP:BRD) into a guideline?[edit]

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Oppose: BRD elevated to guideline. A WP:Permalink to the discussion is here. Flyer22 (talk) 01:38, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

@Flyer22: Why have you directed people to the "Oppose" section? That goes against WP:CANVAS because it isn't neutral. The link should have been to Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: elevation of Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle to guideline status, so that people can decide for themselves which way to !vote. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:57, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
Redrose64, I know of the WP:Canvass guideline and I follow it; I didn't mean to direct people to the Oppose section. After voting in that section, I copied and pasted the link without thinking about it and then went to alert two appropriate pages (this one included) to that discussion. By contrast, the WP:Permalink shows that I redirected people to the top of the section. Redirecting people to the top of the section is what I meant to do for the live link. Since you've provided the appropriate link above, I don't see a need to change my post for that part. I will go ahead and correct the link at the other page: Wikipedia talk:Edit warring. I will also note my mistake at the aforementioned WP:RfC, under my oppose vote. Although I don't think that people seeing the Oppose section first would necessarily or significantly make them want to vote "oppose," any more than seeing the "Support" section, which comes first, would necessarily or significantly make them want to vote "support," I apologize for my mistake and I understand what you mean on that type of linking. I have sent "Opinions are needed on the following matter" messages in accordance with WP:Canvass before, and those were always neutral; for example, as seen in the WP:Lead case I linked at the aforementioned WP:RfC discussion.
On a side note: Since the WP:Policies and guidelines page/talk page is on my WP:Watchlist and has been for some time, there is no need to WP:Ping me to it. Flyer22 (talk) 21:40, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

RfC: Wikipedia Guidelines Elections[edit]

An election, similar to the process of choosing admins, should be made for formed groups that want to change certain guidelines on Wkipedia. It's pretty safe to say that a group will form that is supoortive of the Wikipedia's current guidelines BUT other groups may and will form and it will provide a good spectacle. Wackslas - Holler at me (talk) 15:12, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

  • No - the proposal misunderstands how changes to policy/guideline pages are made. Any one can edit... that means that anyone can propose changes to policy/guideline pages - and anyone can discuss those proposed changes and give their opinion. We don't form "groups" to propose and discuss changes... the "group" is the entire community. Blueboar (talk) 10:46, 5 August 2015 (UTC)