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Canadian Rugby Articles for deletion[edit]

@Mcmatter: has listed a number of articles for deletion related to Canadian rugby.

Also listed under Rugby Alberta are:

-MacRùsgail (talk) 15:56, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

He's also added an AfD for Ontario Rugby Union, although it didn't show up here because it wasn't part of the WikiProject for some reason. On top of that, he's bundled it with a Rugby League AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ontario Rugby League Competition. Grande (talk) 06:55, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Rugby balls[edit]

Most of the references in Gilbert (sports equipment) need to be updated (possibly using https://archive.org/web/ ) -- PBS (talk) 16:49, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Notability: Governing bodies[edit]

As noted above at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Rugby_union#Canadian_Rugby_Articles_for_deletion, one editor has proposed deleting many Canadian rugby articles. Several of these articles discuss regional governing bodies in Canada. The WP:RU Notability Guideline does not set forth any criteria regarding notability of governing bodies. If WP:RU members think a guideline on this would be helpful, feel free to proposed some suggested language. If nobody else volunteers, I may suggest some guidance. I already mentioned this idea to the editor in question, but he declined to initiate a conversation here. Barryjjoyce (talk) 04:25, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

See the following AfD's, each of which proposes deleting several articles, including one or more articles regarding governing bodies:

Pinging editors who have weighed in on these AfD's: McMatter ~ MacRùsgail ~ Margin1522 ~ talk nerdy to me ~ Grande ~ SkyGuy747

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Harej (talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

National team infoboxes[edit]

What do folks think about adding the following parameters to national rugby union team infoboxes?

  • current ranking
  • highest ranking (year)
  • lowest ranking (year)

I think many readers would find these informative. If you want to visualize what these might look like, the national football team infoboxes include these. Barryjjoyce (talk) 02:48, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Currently rankings suffer from WP:RECENTISM , is England's current 3rd ranking important? Not really Gnevin (talk) 14:35, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
I'd say a country's current ranking is more important than its highest and lowest rankings. We could update it every time the World Rugby rankings are updated. WP:RECENT doesn't really apply since it's not giving undue weight to recent events; the most recent info gets overwritten every time there's an update. – PeeJay 14:41, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
I've no strong opinions either way Gnevin (talk) 15:59, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

John Robinson (sportsman)[edit]

Robinson was an early England international with four matches in 1893 and in 1902; he also played first-class cricket at Cambridge University. I can flesh out his cricket career from the various cricket databases. Can anyone help on the rugby side? Thanks. Johnlp (talk) 00:02, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Chris Smylie[edit]

Would someone please check recent edits at the above. I'm inclined to revert it all, but someone who understands the topic would be better. Johnuniq (talk) 07:17, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Joe Maddock[edit]

I'm happy for him but are we sure that this is an encyclopedic issue? -- SERGIO aka the Black Cat 10:46, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

ARFU Asian Rugby Championship[edit]

Hello, I noticed that the new Asian championship's name is just ARFU Asian Rugby Championship. Would you consider make two separate articles, the first for the 1969-2004 tournament and the second for the current one? -- SERGIO aka the Black Cat 15:57, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

All of the articles, A5N included have been merged. They are technically the same tournament, just different names and formats. No need to have different articles for each "tournament". Rugby.change (talk) 23:28, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Excessive lists of stats[edit]

I was just looking at the 2015 Six Nations Championship article and it seems like the stats section is way too expansive. Why are we listing every single point scorer? Surely the top 10 is sufficient? What say you, WT:RU? – PeeJay 21:44, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

I agree. Top ten is sufficient. This subject has been discussed by a few editors at Talk:2015 Six Nations Championship. Barryjjoyce (talk) 01:52, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I was one of them, but I didn't think the discussion there had ever reached a conclusion, so I brought it here. I doubt you'll be the only person to agree with me, but let's allow this to play out just in case. – PeeJay 02:01, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
As I mentioned before, I seen no problem with listing the all scorers. I fully understand why you would say for just top 10, but as editors we should be providing the facts. It's not up to us to say how little or not the detail of the facts are. By placing the statistics at the bottom, they are out of the way. Readers can simply scroll down and look at them should they wish. If readers only want to read 10, then they'll read the first 10. So basically if we give the full facts (Statistics), then readers can choose if they want to read the first 10, the last 10 or even just the top 1. Atleast the option is there for readers to see all of them. Rugby.change (talk) 02:53, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
Too many stats for me, we don't have to provide all the stats - have a look at WP:NOTSTATS. The article is also up for discussion at WP:ITN/C#March 21, and although there are both favourable and unfavourable comments, there does seem to be a view that there are a lot of stats and tables and some more prose and reporting would be an improvement. --Bcp67 (talk) 08:21, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
If someone wants to do the work and provide all the scorers why not let them get on with it. Readers can choose how much they want to read. Jowaninpensans (talk) 09:42, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Murrayfield article[edit]

The article has been moved to BT Murrayfield without any discussion - I've put my thoughts on the Talk:BT Murrayfield page if anyone would like to add theirs. --Bcp67 (talk) 15:09, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Making a controversial move without discussion is reason enough to revert, at least for now, so that's what I've done. – PeeJay 19:33, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Merit Tables[edit]

I came across this draft article, but I can not evaluate it. DGG ( talk ) 14:59, 25 March 2015 (UTC)