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Welcome to the talk page for the WP:STiki tool. It works just as any other talk page. However, before you report a bug or feature request, please check the table of the first section to see if the issue is already known. Please do not edit that table manually, instead just start a discussion and STiki's developers will update the table as appropriate.

Known Bugs and Feature Requests[edit]

STiki Outstanding Bugs and Feature Requests
ID Contact Type Description Status Urgency
T#057 Ugog Nizdast Feature Request Resolve the milestone for blocked editor issue. WP:BEANS. Done in Source Medium-High
T#059 Adotchar Feature Request Identify a mechanism to notify users when they have a message within STiki, possibly with options regarding how prominent this notification should be. Pending Medium
T#060 Materialscientist Bug Fix After the STiki window has been left inactive for a period (hours), if the first edit classified is "vandalism" the "beaten to revert" message will be erroneously displayed. Interestingly, there is no issue if an AGF classification is applied. This is presumably due to a failed check/renewal of the expiration on the rollback token. Pending Medium
T#039 Ugog Nizdast Feature Request The user should have the capability to display some form of article history, primarily/all in the form of metadata, for the edit under inspection. Pending Medium
T#062 Benzband Feature Request Display the edit count of the user under inspection, perhaps with some notion of "recency", to help users determine if it is worthwhile to scrutinize the user's edit history. Pending Medium
T#061 Redhat101 Feature Request For those who use STiki at night or simply prefer a darker interface, that option should be available alongside the other color-change options. Hopefully we can rely on a Java "look and feel" configuration to do this quickly and globally without having to modify individual components. Pending Medium-Low
T#045 Chess Feature Request Current custom AGF messages hide behind opaque names and are fixed in number. There should be a more dynamic CRUD + naming scheme for AGF messages, which if not an in-STiki interface, could depend on user editing of the configuration files. Pending Medium-Low
T#040 Yaris678 Feature Request Rather than the current "last revert" message having a very "error" tone, shift that to something more positively reflecting the classification was still useful. Better yet, detect when conflicting edits are by STiki user to change message tone accordingly. Pending Medium-Low
T#010 Allens Feature Request There is a desire to somehow represent (possibly with underlining or a color) whether a wikilink has an existing article destination or is a "red-link". Some investigation is needed to determine how to best do this with the Mediawiki API, and the performance penalty it causes. Could also be a STiki option whether or not this should be done. On Hold Medium-Low
T#028 John of Reading Feature Request Expand processing to include some alternative namespaces, namely "portal" and "help". Existing classification models would be re-used and there would be an explicit new queue for these edits. Pending Medium-Low
T#027 Arc de ciel Feature Request More careful recording of "pass" actions. This would also permit a feature allowing a user to view, ex post facto, how the edits they passed on were eventually classified. On Hold Medium-Low
T#056 Materialscientist Bug Fix If the article currently being displayed in the STiki browser is deleted (i.e., by the STiki user in a traditional browser), it will cause the STiki browser to stall when the article is subsequently classified. Pending Medium-Low
T#004 West.andrew.g Feature Request The STiki client currently talks to the backend using only MySQL. MySQL communication could be firewalled by some organizations, making the move to HTTP/PHP communications a good idea. However, this remains low priority given that such little mention has been made of this shortcoming. Pending Low
T#003 Chicocvenancio and Meiskam Feature Request STiki exists only in English, and should perhaps put structure in place for localization. Meiskam wrote some initial structure for this, but I am holding on trunk integration. To move forward, we need someone who has the time, expertise, resources (a server), and willingness to run a STiki backend and do all text translation. On Hold Very Low
Feature Request Note that all requests pertaining to the inclusion of back-end classifier features should be lodged and discussed in the sandbox at Wikipedia talk:STiki/Feature development

CHANGELOG for 2016-08-04 release[edit]

Greetings STiki-ers... The first update in a long time that isn't an emergency release! As always, your participation and continued feedback is appreciated. This is likely the STiki version that will take us over 1 MILLION reverts. This update brings us:

  • The "ignore" button (adjacent to the "user" line of the "metadata panel") enables a session-length ignore of edits made by a particular user (e.g., repeated maintenance tasks that are not vandalism). The ignore list resets when STiki is restarted. The link will change from a blue "ignore" to red "ignored" if the action succeeds (T#053).
  • Implemented API "thank" functionality. A revision/editor can be "thanked" by using the button adjacent to the "REVISION_ID" line of the "metadata panel". "Thanking" is tied to specific revision-ids, justifying this placement. It was not made an explicit classification button and tied to the "innocent" outcome as such a promotion seems like mission-creep for an anti-vandalism tool. The link will change from a blue "thank" to red "thanked" if the action is successful. Note that only registered editors can be thanked, and the link will be hidden for edits made by unregistered users (T#055).
  • The fact an article is CSD ("candidate for speedy deletion") can now be noted atop diffs, similar to how the "this will rollback 'n' edits" note already appears. This functionality is enabled by default, but is in "options" menu (T#052).
  • First attempt at solving macOS GUI layout issues. These seemed to stem from the fact macOS enforces a border on JButtons (T#054).
  • A situation was identified where rollback tokens were sometimes failing to be acquired. This was in turn causing those rollbacks to silently fail and block subsequent ones. This probably caused some of the "I did work; but made no edits" sessions.
  • Minor change w.r.t. to height of "watchlist options" drop-down, which seems to have no default minimum height
  • Minor change to make login error messages more descriptive

Thanks, West.andrew.g (talk) 04:46, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Stiki request permission[edit]

  • Hi! I´m requesting permission to use STiki. I´m sysop on ptwiki and I have knowladge to deal with vandalism through anti vandal tools, whit more 20,000 actions through Huggle. I know that enwiki is different from ptwiki, and I´m only en-2, but I can understand and identify vandalism easily, and you can see that I´m doing a great job on enwiki watching my contribuitions. Chicocvenancio, that is on charge to run Stiki on other languagues and wikis, can confirm that I´m a trustworthy user. Thank you. --Hume42 (talk) 08:45, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
(If I can indeed help confirm Hume42 trustworthiness) I think Hume42 is a very trusted member of the Portuguese Wikipedia and can help understanding if it is worthwhile to spend the need efforts to localize STiki to Portuguese. Chico Venancio (talk) 15:13, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 Done -- @Hume42: Approved for access. Thanks, West.andrew.g (talk) 16:24, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Yes, I would like to have permission to use STiki. With STiki, I believe I may be able to contribute a little more to the effort to defend WP. Tomorrow is my 10th anniversary as an editor. I only have a paltry 9,400 edits but they're nearly all in the namespace; I don't look at WP as a social experience, just want to keep it accurate and reliable because it has come to matter hugely. It seems I meet the requirements. sirlanz 15:08, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, who's talking? Super48paul (talk) 18:13, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @Sirlanz: With more than 2K main namespace edits, you automatically have permission to use the tool. Thanks, West.andrew.g (talk) 19:45, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

  • I would like to request permission to use Wikipedia:STiki with my account Tewksbg. I have previous background with web vandalism prevention and clean up on other sites. I am active on Reddit (u/tewksbg) helping a handful of high traffic subreddits either as being a mod or consulting mod of some owners. I am an editor who watches enwiki and makes changes when needed. I also help moderate several Facebook groups and pages when needed. You can check some of my contributions to see some of the changes that I have made. I also am familiar with Java coding, and would be more than willing to help test and debug future versions on numerous OS platforms. Thank you for your time. Please contact me at my talk page if you have any questions Tewksbg (talk) 19:59, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Not done An old request from a user with very few edits. While I'm inclined to assume good faith and believe other moderation duties make him/her capable, there is just too little experience. West.andrew.g (talk) 15:33, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

  • Hello! I would like to request permission to use the STiki tools. I have worked on wiki sites (not wikipedia) as a sysop/bureaucrat for the past 2 years so I know the difference between intended malice and a good-faith edit. I have also had experience moderating online games for the past 2-3 years. I feel that allowing me to use this tool would help to stop vandalism by finding and reverting it at a faster rate than what would have been otherwise possible. --Figfires (talk) 21:56, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 Done -- @Figfires: I've approved your request. Sorry about the delay. There aren't a ton of contributions or tight focus on anti-vandalism, but there has been steady participation that would arrive at the 1k threshold in short order, regardless. Honestly, this was a borderline case, but I'm assuming good faith, and I couldn't not approve after seeing the recent work on Tom Petty articles. Loved that man. Saw him over 20 times live (I'm in my early 30's) and traveled extensively to see him at Red Rocks, Wrigley Field earlier this year, and other fun venues. Keeping rocking, Tom. Happy reverting, Figfires. West.andrew.g (talk) 13:12, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi, I would like to request permission to use STiki. My main focus on Wikipedia is to prevent vandalism using Twinkle. I believe that my life would be better with this tool. Well, not my life but, you know. Thanks! --apap04¿ (talk) 17:41, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 Done -- @Apap04: Granted on basis of Twinkle experience with anti-vandal focus and reasonable NS0 edit count. Happy reverting. West.andrew.g (talk) 05:19, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Stiki shutting down at first revert[edit]

I'm having this problem using my alt account User:Joe Decker (alt). Complaints that I'm being kicked out by the server. If you check contributions on that account, you'll notice it has worked in the very recent past. I've also verified that the behavior happens whether that account is given rollback or not, which might or might not be useful info. Thanks in advance! --joe deckertalk 16:44, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

(I have not checked this on my main admin account, assuming 2FA would get in the way.) --joe deckertalk 16:49, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
Huh. Working now. --joe deckertalk 21:12, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 Done -- Yeah, nothing has changed on the STiki side so we have to assume it was a WMF or network issue. Strange if it was only happening on one of your accounts, though. West.andrew.g (talk) 03:58, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, I've probably misspoken, to clarify: I was only able to test it on one account, my admin account has 2FA and I assumed I wouldn't be able to log in with it. I tested the non-admin account with and without rollback, using the admin account to tweak that permission on the non-admin account. Anyway, working fine now, and thanks!  :) --joe deckertalk 03:03, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Request for permission using STiki[edit]

Hello, I would like to request permission to use this tool as I am currently using twinkle but this tool is much more efficient and easier to use. Also, I can identify vandalism easily and that will be my focus whilst using this tool. -ReeceTheHawk (talk) 15:36, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Not done -- @ReeceTheHawk: I appreciate your enthusiasm towards the anti-vandal task, but with just 68 main namespace edits, and all of them coming in the past week, I think its just a little too soon for permission. You are certainly on the right track though, and a program like WP:CVUA will fast-track your access to the tool. Thanks, West.andrew.g (talk) 18:27, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Sticky on FreeBSD, or linux[edit]

Can it work on FreeBSD, or through wine? —usernamekiran(talk) 16:38, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

It's just a Java program, so if Java can run on FreeBSD, STiki should be able to run[citation needed]. ProgrammingGeek talktome 16:50, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
STiki was designed on (Fedora) Linux, so it obviously works there. Don't know much about FreeBSD, but I'd assume so. If anything would be amiss, I imagine it would be some of the complex glue/structs/spacing that helps beautify the layout (the only real place I've spent considerable time hacking on MacOS/Windows/Linux incompatibilities) and not anything mission critical. Thanks, West.andrew.g (talk) 18:22, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Request for permission to use STiki[edit]

Hello, I would like to request permission to use the STiki tool to support fighting vandalism. I can identify vandalism easily and have been rectifying it recently with Twinkle. While Twinkle is useful, I believe STiki offers a more semi-automated approach. Thanks, Devonson4 (talk) 19:42 01/12/2017

 Done -- @Devonson4: Granted. Happy reverting. West.andrew.g (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2017 (UTC)