Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/July 24

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Suggested correction[edit]

The text:

...makes it sound like Brigham Young led the Mormon pioneers to Salt Lake Valley, then led them into Mexico. It might read better as:

I can't edit this source, but someone with more power ought to.  :)
ZorkFox (Talk) 00:52, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for pointing this out. You may want to try WP:ERRORS the next time you find minor errors like that on MainPage. You'll get better service there. -- PFHLai 13:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Lost City of the Incas[edit]

Moved from Talk:Main Page.

The "Lost City of the Incas" usually refers to Vilcabamba, not Macchu Picchu --Descendall 23:48, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

"then thought to be the ..." would be most accurate. The name is associated with its history. --Dhartung | Talk 00:29, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Siege of Damascus[edit]

According to the article, the Siege of Damascus started on July 23, 1148. This date is also listed in A History of the Crusades (p 508) --Andibrunt (talk) 07:55, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

2012 notes[edit]

All articles making their OTD debuts! howcheng {chat} 05:57, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

It was a mistake to include noncited assertion from Albanian Revolt of 1910 into this page, especially because it was explained on the talk page that this article has serious issues. One of the issues was that the text of could mislead potential readers that rebels managed to capture many towns including Shkoder, though the last section mentions that rebels did not manage to capture cities but only mountainous regions. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 14:10, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
The article does not have any maintenance tags on it. The "fact" is what's listed on the July 24 article. howcheng {chat} 17:21, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
According to the Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries: The date must be a cited to a reliable source with an inline citation, since inline citations are used to support specific statements in an article. In this case the assertion from Albanian Revolt of 1910 is not cited. It even does not exist in the text of the article.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:34, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
"On July 24, 1910, Ottoman forces entered the city of Scutari. During this period martial courts were put in action and summary executions took place. A large number of firearms were collected and many villages and properties were burned by the Ottoman army.[8]" I admit that I did not verify it against the source, however. Actually I just tried right now and that page is not included in the Google Books preview, so that would not have been possible anyway. howcheng {chat} 02:52, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
The assertion you added to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries is not sourced. The source you mention is used to support another assertion, the claim about villages burned by the Ottoman army. But even if the text you presented is supported by the same source (which is not), it is about the Ottoman reinforcement which managed to break trough the mountains under control of the rebels and enter Scutari to reinforce its Ottoman garrison. Then they went to villages on the mauntains and did what they did (burning houses and taking away arms from rebels). Point is that Ottoman forces did not capture the city of Shkodër because it was already under Ottoman control, not conquired by the rebels. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 06:21, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
OK, how would reword it? howcheng {chat} 09:00, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
I think that rewording would not resolve the problem with unsourced assertion about events that actually did not happen (Ottomans capturing Shkoder in 1910).--Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:04, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

2013 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 09:20, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

2014 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 06:56, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

2015 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 06:49, 22 July 2015 (UTC)