Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/July 9

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stone "was laid" at a particular minute?[edit]

Moved from Talk:Main Page

Clocks in the 12th century were not very accurate. I rewrote the text in the Charles Bridge article to make clear that this 5:31 a.m. is a "specified time". If they got it right to the nearest five minutes, then they were probably doing pretty good for that era. We do not know what really happened, but I suppose there is no need to change the text. That is, unless we care about reporting "the Truth". -- 75.26.5.242 00:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Edit request[edit]

{{editprotected}} One of the entries on this page does not read well:

1944 – World War II: American forces defeated Japanese on the island of Saipan in the Mariana Islands.

I would suggest a change to:

1944 – World War II: American forces defeated Japanese forces on the island of Saipan in the Mariana Islands.

Yes, I know it's mind-blowingly trivial but that's the consequence of page protection! Cynical (talk) 18:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:14, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

South Sudan[edit]

No reference to South Sudan's independence?--Tim Thomason 23:07, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree, if we indicate Argentina's independence day, we should indicate South Sudan South Sudan's independence. JaumeBG 00:25, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

2012 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 04:26, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

2013 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 05:44, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 July 2013[edit]

Ramadan Begins on 10 July till 9 August (estimate)

81.111.208.158 (talk) 12:22, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Not done: It looks like this page was right but the Ramadan article was wrong - see this page. I've updated the article instead. Also, for next time things on the front page should be reported to WP:ERRORS. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:59, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

2014 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 06:38, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

2015 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 06:28, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Addendum: Martyrs of Gorkum added later for balance. howcheng {chat} 03:25, 9 July 2015 (UTC)