Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/May 9

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Q4: Why is the birthday of [Insert name here] not listed?
A4: Births and deaths can only be used on centennials, etc. Exceptions can be made if they are directly related to assassinations, executions, natural disasters, civil accidents, genocide/extinction, or other historically significant topics that frequently appear on the Selected Anniversaries pages.
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Victory Day[edit]

The Victory Day (Eastern Europe) seems to be the only universally accepted and highly regarded Holiday in Russia. I am getting E-mails from the members of the Russian community complaining that it is not visible enough on the Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/May 9. Is it possible to add something Victory-Day related for at least a part of the day? E.g. the poster or anything? abakharev 02:46, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

May I add to this? The good discussion we had over May 7 perhaps is a proof that I always try to be reasonable. I am second on requesting the image and the explicit mention of the event in the text returned. Of course I may be viewing this from my background's perspective, but this is indeed the only holiday not only in Russia, but in Ukraine too, over which most people agree. We have a complicated history which divided people over different background. The Great Patriotic War for the USSR was an event of an unimaginable scale and, despite the victory, a national catastrophe compared to the worst events in the national history. I think this by itself deserves a return, irrespective of the sentiments people have over their (great-(grand))-fathers who died. Would you ammend the page to this version? If something else needs removed, please devide which one, Thanks, --Irpen 02:52, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the message, abakharev & Irpen. I'm aware of the importance of this day. That's why I moved Victory Day on the top line to give it top billing. I don't think the reversion to abakharev's version is a good idea. Links are placed on the MainPage to feature good wikicontent -- what page are being featured ? I thought about having a line about the signing of the capitulation papers, maybe bolding the link to Wilhelm Keitel, a page with the date (a requirement to get on the Sel. Ann. template). Then, I discovered that the formal signing of the capitulation papers actually took place on May 8, not May 9. Can't put that on the Selected Anniversaries template for May 9. .... Can either of you come up with a line with a few internal links, one of which links to a decent page (no stubs, not problem tags like {cleanup} or {NPOV} etc.) with good content including the date 'May 9' ? If so, let me know, and we'll bump the 328 item off. (I hope I won't get e-mails from all the Christians around the world complaining about their Doctors of the Church not being visible enough in Wikipedia.....) The pic of VE3 is used because it's the 60th Anniversary of his abdication, but I'm not dead set on keeping it there. I'd like a different picture every day anyway. For now, I'm thinking about putting Wilhelm Keitel on the May 8 template for 2007......
I have to go to work, guys. Abakharev, since you are an admin, you can edit the protected template. Do whatever you think is best, following the Sel. Anniv guidelnes. Thanks. -- PFHLai 03:24, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
I've rewritten the 1945 item. I did some more reading and confirmed that the signing in Berlin took place late night on May 8, and was announced on May 9. German Instrument of Surrender, 1945 is a little stubby, but since no one except me observe established guidelines (Haha), it should do for now. Hope it's okay to everyone. (BTW, pls don't tell my boss I am using his computer to surf the 'net again ....) -- PFHLai 08:26, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! --Irpen 16:47, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Dianetics?[edit]

The selected list includes mention of the first publication of the book Dianetics by Hubbard. I am not sure that selected anniversaries is the right place to promote books, especially controversial ones. 79.92.68.17 (talk) 08:21, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

The point is not to promote the book per se. The point of the selected anniversaries is to list a few events that have some international historical significance or interest, whether these events have been controversial or not. And one could argue that Hubbard and his Dianetics and his Scientology and so forth is one of the most internationally controversial topics to date. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 17:34, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

2012 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 06:10, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

2013 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 06:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

2014 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 05:47, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

2015 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 08:08, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

2016 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 11:30, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

2017 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 07:55, 9 May 2017 (UTC)