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Very important disrespect[edit]

I've noticed a very significant lack of respect in these titles: the title "Lord Gom, the Highest Togneme of the Encyclopedia". As any fule kno, the higher aristocrats absolutely insist on their "The" (with CAPITAL "T"). For example, long ago a newspaper referred to "Princess Margaret"; they promptly received a letter, not from the princess of course but a minion, pointing out in offended terms that the correct usage was "The Princess Margaret". Consequently we should rectify the reference throughout to "The Lord Gom, the Highest Togneme of the Encyclopedia". I haven't done this myself in case it might break something somewhere else (not there are many Lord Goms). Perhaps someone who knows if these terms can safely be changed will do this, if deemed acceptable? Best wishes Pol098 (talk) 10:25, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, but there's not only one Lord Gom, so calling someone The Lord Gom seems inaccurate. Achowat (talk) 20:02, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Indeed so: there aren't any. Double sharp (talk) 09:09, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
There are already a couple of hundred editors who meet the edit count for this, but with the pedia only fifteen years old it will be at least a year before we start getting Lord Goms. I think we can leave it to their Lordships to declare fine details of the suitable mode of address, but there are two issues we should think about, firstly can we make this gender neutral? Second a volunteer service award system needs to cater for volunteers who put in long service; Judging from other more established organisations that should include 25 and 50 year awards. We have a few years before such are needed, but no harm in designing them in now. ϢereSpielChequers 04:01, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Deletion to Quality Award[edit]

I've created the WP:Deletion to Quality Award.

This recognizes editors who've taken a page previously considered for deletion — to Featured Article or Good Article quality.

The award is inspired by the Wikipedia:Million Award, the Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron, and the Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement.

Please see Wikipedia:Deletion to Quality Award.

Thank you,

Cirt (talk) 10:27, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

How to count edits?[edit]

Can't find where or how my current number of edits is tallied. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Regards, DPdH (talk) 05:04, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Found a couple of offline ways, but not a live counter that I can add to my user page... still need help please. DPdH (talk) 07:37, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Within Wiki: visit your userpage, go to "Preferences" (up right, between "Sandbox" and "Beta"), click and see ("Basic information") the number of edits you made in that particular language version of Wikipedia. If you want to see the number of all edits in all language versions + Commons + Wikidata + etc.: click on (last line of "Basic information") Global account: View global account info. All well hidden, but it's there. Good luck. Vysotsky (talk) 15:32, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Out of idle curiosity[edit]

Instead of doing something useful, I decided to investigate an idle question I had: just how many people currently qualify for the highest service award, Grandmaster Editor First-Class? If one has the time, one can figure it out: at the moment I write this, 295 editors have made at least 114,000 edits, so all one would need to do is to find out how many of these folks have been editing 14 years or more.

After a couple of hours, having first gone thru the top 50 on the list (which allowed me to identify 5 Grandmaster Editors, 16 Master Editor IVs, 16 Master Editor IIIs, & several lesser awards), I skipped down to look for usernames in this group of 295 whom I remember being active when I joined in 2002. Doing that, I was able to identify a total of two editors who could correctly & properly add that award to their page. And neither one has bothered to do so. (Out of respect for their privacy, I won't mention their names here.)

FWIW, the only person who has the Grandmaster Editor First-Class template on his page claims to have been editing Wikipedia for over 15 years. A quick investigation revealed said person has a whopping 352 edits to his credit.

Not sure what my investigation shows. I did notice that while a lot of people will boast on their user page how many edits they've made, far, far fewer mention how long they've been on Wikipedia. And most of those folks simply indicate they've been here "over 10 years". Like me. -- llywrch (talk) 22:24, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

You can give the award to other people (on their talk pages) and maybe to these high personages you should. Also, if there are editors eligible for the highest award, it might be time to think about adding a couple levels. Herostratus (talk) 14:06, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Since then, I've identified a total of 6 people who qualify for the highest possible service award, Grandmaster Editor First-Class, & only two of them have added it to their pages. One of these days I may query the four who don't have that template why they don't. (There is a third person who has added the template to his page that does not qualify for it, but since that editor hasn't edited since 2014 I didn't remove from his page.) However, all have the 10-year template on their page. I guess that shows which really is important to us long-timers. -- llywrch (talk) 16:32, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Updating large service ribbons for Grand Tutnum and higher levels[edit]

If one reviews the various enWiki awards ribbons one can see that, in general, the small (72px) versions of the ribbons very closely match the larger (120px) versions of the ribbons. However, the large and small ribbons for service awards differ quite greatly from each other beginning at Grand Tutnum. In addition, the award stars used on the current large ribbons do not match the convention used in attaching service stars and 5/16 inch stars to medals and ribbons, viz. a bronze or gold star represents an additional award, while a silver star is used in lieu of five bronze or gold stars. I have taken the liberty of redesigning the large ribbons to use bronze and silver service stars, as those are more appropriate for service awards, as well as redesigning them to match the small ribbons. However, prior to uploading more than twenty images to Commons to create a table (which I have started here), I wanted to know if there was any desire to update those images. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 08:18, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Sounds OK to me. I can't really visualize it, can you show an example? Or I'm willing to trust your judgement. Herostratus (talk) 14:02, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
@Herostratus: I'll try to upload the images tonight. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 22:27, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
@Herostratus: here is the transcluded table. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 01:14, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Proposed updates to service award ribbons
° Level name Current images Proposed image #1
(service stars)
Proposed image #2
(match small ribbons)
Small Ribbon Large Ribbon
1 Registered Editor Editorrib1.PNG Signator (tiny border).PNG No change
2 Novice Editor Burba rib.svg Burpa Ribbon.png No change
3 Apprentice Editor Novato rib.svg Apprentice Ribbon.png No change
4 Journeyman Editor Editorrib4.png Journeyman Editor Ribbon.png No change
5 Yeoman Editor Editorrib5.png Yeoman Editor Ribbon.png No change
6 Experienced Editor Editorrib6.png Experienced and Established Editor.png No change
7 Veteran Editor Editorrib7.png Veteran Editor Ribbon.png No change
8 Veteran Editor II Editorrib8.png Veteran Editor Ribbon 2.png Veteran Editor II stars.png Veteran Editor II stripes.png
9 Veteran Editor III Editorrib9.png Veteran Editor Ribbon 3.png Veteran Editor III stars.png Veteran Editor III stripes.png
10 Veteran Editor IV Editorrib10.png Veteran Editor Ribbon 4.png Veteran Editor IV stars.png Veteran Editor IV stripes.png
11 Senior Editor Editorrib11.png Senior Editor.png Senior Editor stars.png Senior Editor stripes.png
12 Senior Editor II Editorrib12alt.png Master editor.png Senior Editor II stars.png Senior Editor II stripes.png
13 Senior Editor III Editorrib13.png Master editor 2.png Senior Editor III stars.png Senior Editor III stripes.png
14 Master Editor Editorrib14.png Master Editor Ribbon.png Master Editor stars.png Master Editor stripes.png
15 Master Editor II Editorrib15.png Master Editor II Ribbon.png Master Editor II stars.png Master Editor II stripes.png
16 Master Editor III Editorrib16.png Master Editor III Ribbon.png Master Editor III stars.png Master Editor III stripes.png
17 Master Editor IV Editorrib17.png Master Editor IV Ribbon.png Master Editor IV stars.png Master Editor IV stripes.png
18 Grandmaster Editor Editorrib18.png Grandmaster Editor Ribbon.png Grandmaster Editor stars.png Grandmaster Editor stripes.png
19 Grandmaster Editor First-Class Editorrib19.png Grandmaster Editor FC Ribbon.png Grandmaster Editor FC stars.png Grandmaster Editor FC stripes.png
20 Vanguard Editor Editorrib20.png Vanguard Editor Ribbon.png Vanguard Editor stars.png Vanguard Editor stripes.png

Well, sure. This looks fine to me. Anybody have any objections? Herostratus (talk) 02:04, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Looks good. No objections. VMS Mosaic (talk) 12:49, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Do you have a preference? I like the striped ribbons since they match the small ones. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 04:17, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Oh I get it, we're 1) assuming the small ribbons are to stay as is, and 2) looking at two possible versions for the large ribbon. OK. Well, they're both good... the idea of matching the small ribbons is a virtue, but the other version is nice in a different way. Can't decide! Herostratus (talk) 22:29, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Dear Jkudlick, Thanks for doing this. It's an improvement in most places. However, I think it really needs a little bit more work! Basically, the design is inconsistent with the naming scheme. For instance "Senior Editor" has four (dark) stars and the next level SE 2 has one (bright) star. A more logical choice would be to keep the groups together, but differentiate clearly between groups while keeping the number of star relatively low. So, Senior Editor: 1 star, SE2: 2 stars, SE3: 3 stars. Followed by Master Editor: 1 star -- ME 4: stars but use thin gold colour marking around the purple or something like this .

For Grandmaster Editor and above, I am not happy that the wheels are supposed to be replaced. What is wrong with the current design? The solution you are proposing for the top three levels is not very elegant and makes these levels indistinct from the levels below. The current design really reflects the naming. Please don't change these. Many thanks! Mootros (talk) 16:07, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

@Mootros: If you go to WP:RIBBONS, you will notice that the vast majority of small ribbons match the large ribbons. The stars I used follow the convention used by service stars where one silver star is used in lieu of five bronze stars, and the striped versions match the smaller ribbons. I think the ribbon designs for Senior Editor and above could be reworked. I will probably do that and re-upload new striped versions. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 03:57, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
I forgot to answer your question about the ship's wheels. Right now, I'm on my phone, and the three ribbons are literally indistinguishable; they are even hard to tell apart on a PC screen. The point of the ribbon is to easily tell what award is represented, so that is why I feel they need to be changed. Not many editors legitimately hold the title of Grandmaster or GM FC, and I don't think there are any legitimate Vanguards, so there won't be too many images being changed. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 04:08, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
I see, this is something from the US forces. I think that's the problem why it seems to make no sense. It's not widely known and there is no apparent link to Wikipedia. Why can we not have something more creative, rather than following something obscure as a uniformed US services?
Yes, I agree there is no point changing the wheels as almost no one legitimately uses them at the moment. Yes, in the long run we can make them more distinguishable. This could easily be done be having a silver wheel for the top level and possibly only two wheels for lower levels. Mootros (talk) 05:23, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
I agree the use of the service stars is US-centric, which is part of the reason I prefer the stripes. I recall seeing ribbons with one, two, and three wheels somewhere, and I think those would certainly be distinguishable enough from each other for the top three levels. I can try to make smaller versions of those in lieu of the current striped ones, and I'll eventually make SVGs of all the ribbons. I'm considering different color schemes for the Veteran, Senior, and Master levels. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 05:41, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
Thank you kindly. This sounds great! To be honest I think the lower levels might needs some overhaul too. They look quite scruffy. I very much like the idea of different colours to denote groups. I think you could also combine two colours; the trick would be to have subtle difference/ i.e. shades of different colours for each levels that nonetheless are still clearly distinguishable. This would avoid a potential clash of colours and possible circus look ;-). I trust your judgement; from what you already designed its looks very neat. Cheers! Mootros (talk) 05:51, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll start working on them later, but I think converting the lower levels to SVG will do a lot to help them look cleaner, but given what has been discussed already, I may begin a larger overhaul. I'll be sure to post the results here before making changes to the service award templates and pages. There is no need to worry about a "circus look;" I have an interest in heraldry and vexillology, both of which also believe that simpler is usually better. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 06:58, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────@Herostratus, VMS Mosaic, and Mootros: Here is an updated table. I have converted all of the larger ribbons to SVGs with updated designs and proposed names for the higher levels to kind of match the Grandmaster First Class name. I'm not sure why the PNG preview for the Registered Editor ribbons renders that way, but if you look at the original file you can see what I thought I had uploaded; that first level may require a total redesign if SVGs are to be used. I changed the ribbon colors for the Yeoman and Experienced levels to match Journeyman, since it seems somewhat more rational to me. As always, feel free to comment. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 09:14, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Wow, excellent work! I can see your approach certainly is elegance through a clear and simple design. Two minor points: The light blue for "Apprentice Editor" looks slightly out of place now. I think gold without any dot might be a more logical choice, which will also mirror the sequence between "Veteran Editor" and "Veteran Editor II". The second point, I think the different strip colours between "Veteran Editor II-IV" and the "Senior Editors" is back to front. I feel it might be better to have "silver" strips first and than the "gold" strips. This type of colour progression would then also mirror the sequence between the silver of the "Novice Editor" and gold above, as well as the silver stars and gold wheels. Apart from that almost perfect, IMHO! Many thanks! Mootros (talk) 10:27, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
About the changes in names. I suggested two simple name changes for the lower levels for better consistency. The was not welcomed by one editor. I am happy to have the names reviewed and altered, but I suggest to do this separately from the ribbon design. Thanks! Mootros (talk) 10:43, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Very nice @Jkudlick! My final comment: To advance your concept of minimalism further, it might be worthwhile to check and possibly fine tune the key colours: Sliver, Gold, Purple. I think, if we have three basic colours (ignoring the red for the tildes), it might further improve the overall appearance and consistency. What I am saying is, you might want to try matching the reappearance of the colours: i.e. the gold of the Apprentice and Journeymen could reappear in the strips of Senior Editors. I think, this slightly darker tone of gold might give more elegance than the brighter yellow and of course links the different levels. Similar the silver of the dots could be identical to the silver of strips and stars, but it possibly already is. See what it looks like; it might make the difference to be top-notch. Cheers, Mootros (talk) 05:10, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
I've made the stripes on the Senior Editor levels and the ship's wheels on the GM/Vanguard levels darker to match the bronze gold of the lower levels (though I kind of like the brighter gold on the wheels). I also matched the silver of the Registered/Novice levels to the silver used at all other levels, and made the tildes and incremental stripes purple. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 06:16, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Great! Yes, maybe revert to the brighter gold for the wheels; it might give a bit of extra contrast for the top levels. I like the purple tildes! Mootros (talk) 06:24, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done I'll begin working on the smaller ribbons later. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 06:47, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Proposed updates to service award ribbons
° Level name Current designs Updated designs Incremental awards
Large Ribbon Small Ribbon Large Ribbon Small Ribbon Level 2 Level 3 Level4
1 Registered Editor Signator (tiny border).PNG Editorrib1.PNG Registered Editor.svg Editorrib01.svg Registered Editor lv2.svg Registered Editor lv3.svg Registered Editor lv4.svg
2 Novice Editor Burpa Ribbon.png Burba rib.svg Novice Editor.svg Editorrib02.svg Novice Editor lv2.svg Novice Editor lv3.svg Novice Editor lv4.svg
3 Apprentice Editor Apprentice Ribbon.png Novato rib.svg Apprentice Editor.svg Editorrib03.svg Apprentice Editor lv2.svg Apprentice Editor lv3.svg Apprentice Editor lv4.svg
4 Journeyman Editor Journeyman Editor Ribbon.png Editorrib4.png Journeyman Editor.svg Editorrib04.svg Journeyman Editor lv2.svg Journeyman Editor lv3.svg Journeyman Editor lv4.svg
5 Yeoman Editor Yeoman Editor Ribbon.png Editorrib5.png Yeoman Editor.svg Editorrib05.svg Yeoman Editor lv2.svg Yeoman Editor lv3.svg Yeoman Editor lv4.svg
6 Experienced Editor Experienced and Established Editor.png Editorrib6.png Experienced Editor.svg Editorrib06.svg N/A
7 Veteran Editor Veteran Editor Ribbon.png Editorrib7.png Veteran Editor 4C.svg Editorrib07.svg N/A
8 Veteran Editor II Veteran Editor Ribbon 2.png Editorrib8.png Veteran Editor 3C.svg Editorrib08.svg N/A
9 Veteran Editor III Veteran Editor Ribbon 3.png Editorrib9.png Veteran Editor 2C.svg Editorrib09.svg N/A
10 Veteran Editor IV Veteran Editor Ribbon 4.png Editorrib10.png Veteran Editor 1C.svg Editorrib10.svg N/A
11 Senior Editor Senior Editor.png Editorrib11.png Senior Editor 3C.svg Editorrib11.svg N/A
12 Senior Editor II Master editor.png Editorrib12alt.png Senior Editor 2C.svg Editorrib12.svg N/A
13 Senior Editor III Master editor 2.png Editorrib13.png Senior Editor 1C.svg Editorrib13.svg N/A
14 Master Editor Master Editor Ribbon.png Editorrib14.png Master Editor 4C.svg Editorrib14.svg N/A
15 Master Editor II Master Editor II Ribbon.png Editorrib15.png Master Editor 3C.svg Editorrib15.svg N/A
16 Master Editor III Master Editor III Ribbon.png Editorrib16.png Master Editor 2C.svg Editorrib16.svg N/A
17 Master Editor IV Master Editor IV Ribbon.png Editorrib17.png Master Editor 1C.svg Editorrib17.svg N/A
18 Grandmaster Editor Grandmaster Editor Ribbon.png Editorrib18.png Grandmaster Editor 2C.svg Editorrib18.svg N/A
19 Grandmaster Editor First-Class Grandmaster Editor FC Ribbon.png Editorrib19.png Grandmaster Editor 1C.svg Editorrib19.svg N/A
20 Vanguard Editor Vanguard Editor Ribbon.png Editorrib20.png Vanguard Editor.svg Editorrib20.svg N/A
  • I'll adjust the sizes of the SVGs later tonight - I had read that 218x60 was optimal for making SVGs of ribbon bars, but it seems that Wikipedia ribbons are proportionately 20% taller than that. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 09:30, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
These look fine to me. Herostratus (talk) 13:58, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
  • @Mootros, Herostratus, and VMS Mosaic: I've updated the SVGs per the comments above. If these are acceptable to everyone, I will make the necessary adjustments to any templates and to the small ribbons so that they match the larger ribbons. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 03:47, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
  • @Mootros, Herostratus, and VMS Mosaic: Small ribbons are done. I've just noticed that the medal images for the first six levels will probably need updating if they are to remain visually similar to these new ribbon bars. I do not have the necessary graphics software to make those changes. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 03:37, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
  • I'll deal with the change, as long as the old versions are retained so they can still be displayed, including by those who currently do so.— Godsy (TALKCONT) 07:51, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Wait, what? There's no need to retain the old versions. We just load the new images over the old ones, right? We don't want or need two or more versions of the same thing to be be extant, right? Herostratus (talk) 12:58, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
Agree, no point in a parallel scheme. Everything will properly display as images are updated. Mootros (talk) 03:40, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
Keep the "old" ones and allow editors the choice, or, maybe just "go back" to the original ones. Several editors did a good faith project here, but, for me at least, the new approach kind of lessens the fun of seeing these ribbons on user pages. The "older" ones come across to me as colorful, festive, and brighter. These new ribbons have a World War II look. Was this change on rfc, or other noticeboards? Thanks. Randy Kryn 02:08, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
@Randy Kryn: The only notices that I saw on any templates prompted discussion here, and not at any other noticeboards. There is no requirement for a formal RfC, so I began discussion here regarding the mismatch between the small and large ribbons. I saw that I was getting comments from editors who helped create this system years ago who supported the idea and liked the way I was designing the ribbons, so I took the ball and ran with it. If you wish to begin a formal RfC, I will gladly participate and abide by the results.
Regarding whether to display the old ribbons - that is of course one's own choice. There is a real-world history of being allowed to choose whether to display an award which was superseded or the new award, but once the recipient began displaying the new award, they were not allowed to display the old one. I have no problem if others choose to display the older awards. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 03:20, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
Sorry for being late to the discussion, but I just noticed that this change was implemented, and I dislike it. The old color scheme looked better and differentiated each level, in addition to looking like "real" ribbons and not some computer-generated shapes that we now have. It would be nice if the templates for the awards included parameters that allows for the choice between the new and old designs, maybe with the new designs as the default. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 00:40, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

regarding the level requirements[edit]

It seems to me that the longer you spend on this site, the less you actually care about getting your next service award. Additionally, you get more and more likely to meet the requirements in time (fairly obviously), but not in edits. (Compare my 2011 posts here with my current 2016 post here!) I don't particularly mind the requirements up to 10 years, and anyway those would be impossible to change now. But I think it would be a little more fitting if the ending 10-12-14-16 became something like 10-12-15-20, going up more exponentially than linearly. Double sharp (talk) 12:33, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

I like the current system. I enjoy updating my badge once a year (from now on every other year)... I really don't like the idea of an escalation of the timetable — nor should there be anything beyond Vanguard Editor @ 16 years. That's our top black belt... Carrite (talk) 01:30, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
The project is about to become 16 years old. In 34 years it will be 50 years old, somehow I doubt I will still be around to see that, but many of our younger editors will. By the end of the century there could be long service awards for people who have been here from adolescence until long after what now would be considered retirement age. I think we should be designing a system that works for the foreseeable future. Other volunteer organisations that start young but last a lifetime have a service award program that reflects that, we should too. As for edit count, faster processing and multi edit tools such as twinkle mean that the edits per hour figure is likely up a lot since the early days and may go up further. Perhaps at some point we should be creating special awards - has edited in 1,000 different weeks or has edited on 10,000 different days. ϢereSpielChequers 19:32, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Mainspace bytes not Talkspace edits[edit]

It seems odd to base awards on a flat number of edits when we all have different contribution styles (e.g. long paragraphs added each week vs. small daily copyedits) and definitely very different ratios of namespace, admin, talk, etc. edits. A simple bot could be made quickly to count the bytes of new material added – plus a flat tick for minor edits, deletions, and reverts – in mainspaces, followed by the remainder and any other numbers you might think relevant, like large byte counts for page migration or admin tasks. The final numbers tally can be posted on your User Page via Template. Also, just for fun, since Conservapedia loves to cite their "90–10 Rule" – that 90% of editing be to articles and at most 10% to talk, which RationalWiki then loves to debunk – it'd be interesting to get numbers for us on that, not just by edit count. Anyway, I haven't done bot programming on WP before but I can try Saturday morning I guess, but this is the right thing to do, yeah? SamuelRiv (talk) 02:08, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Sometimes a positive contribution is achieved by removing or correcting material which can result in a net sum of bytes removed. How would your idea take that into account? — Jkudlick • t • c • s 11:55, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
"Plus a flat tick for minor edits, deletions, and reverts," and of course the thing is always up for tweaking. SamuelRiv (talk) 13:01, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Need for an article count based Service Award[edit]

It takes me about two hours to write an article. And I write the entire article in the main space at one go. After I publish the article, I mostly do only minor changes to the article. In my case, I have made about 21 articles but still have less than 1000 edits. To put that into perspective, user Godsy, who recently applied to become an administrator has around 15000 edits but has created only around 7 articles. Source. Is it not unfair to editors who research and make new articles to not have any recognition to show for their mettle. I would therefore like to make a suggestion for a new class of service awards which recognises article creators (articles should not be stubs to be counted). Jupitus Smart 08:46, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

I have this page on my watchlist because of a discussion above. I was quite shocked to arrive here and find myself mentioned.— Godsy (TALKCONT) 08:55, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
No offence intended. I just happened to see your proposal for adminship and remembered the numbers. 15000 edits is a good number and I am sure you must have made Wikipedia a better place with that. I only wanted to show that article creation can also be counted as a valid metric of contribution. Since you are here, why don't you weigh in with your opinion. Jupitus Smart 10:03, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
@Jupitus Smart: The closest thing is the awards for Did You Know nominations, which features newly created or expanded articles on the Main Page. There's a list of awards at Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs#See also. It's a pretty lightweight process; articles only need to be 1500 characters (two or three paragraphs) and there's a basic review against core policies. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 06:04, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
The active repository of article statistics, Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by article count, is, without a doubt, a most valued resource for such details. While those of us who spend time examining such matters are grateful for its existence in any form, in its present state, however, it does have have certain imperfections. The "Non-redirects" column, which can be sorted from the highest to the lowest number, combines talk page creation with article creation, thus making it seem that those with high numbers for non-redirect creation (the highest number, as of this writing, is 96,761) have created that number of articles, without indicating how many of those are actually talk pages, most of which take as little time to create as redirects.
An even more inconvenient technical imperfection restricts each sorting to 1000 entries, thus preventing users from sorting 1–10,000, but only 1–1000, 1001–2000, 2001–3000, etc. Moreover, since the default sorting of all 10,000 user names is by the combined total number of non-redirects and redirects, even if one were to sort each of the ten separate columns by the highest number of non-redirects, those columns would not be directly comparable to each other because the sole sorting which unites them is the "Total" column. As an example, #20 on the list, Sethbot, has created 1 non-redirect and 40,901 redirects, for a total of 40,902, while #9988 on the list, Sjeans, has created 127 non-redirects and 1 redirect, for a total of 128 and yet Sethboth and Sjeans cannot be directly compared with each other, other than in the total number of 40,902 for Sethbot and 128 for Sjeans, because Sethbot is in the 1-1000 column and Sjeans is in the separately sorted 9001–10,000 column. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 07:03, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
There is a whole menagerie of awards for content contributors, ranging from DYK to Featured Articles. Those awards include the highest ones available on this site. I'm not convinced we need more, and especially not one unrelated to quality assessment. ϢereSpielChequers 09:19, 28 January 2017 (UTC)