Wikipedia talk:Signature tutorial

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I propose that we remove from this tutorial the examples which are likely to be least accessible to people with a visual impairment; in other words, those that fail WCAG AAA, or are otherwise agreed to be hard to read, through inadvisable choice of font, shading, or a combination. I'll post a neutrally-worded notice to the accessibility project. Note in particular, that WP:SIGAPP, a policy, states that "Your signature must not... cause inconvenience to or annoy other editors.". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:06, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

From WP:Signatures:
The Web Content Accessibility Guidelines recommend a contrast ratio of at least 4.5:1 for text, and WP:COLOR requires 7:1 "where feasible" – use this Contrast ratio calculator to help determine if the colors you choose will be visible to everyone. Signatures do not always appear on white backgrounds. Other colors for calculations range from the Monobook skin's very pale blue ( #F8FCFF ) to the closed discussion Hidden archive tan ( #F2DFCE ) title bar. Other tools for checking contrast are described at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility#Color.
I suggest flagging the offenders rather than removing them.
  • It would make the issue more visible (no pun intended).
  • The flagged users might see the flag and be more likely to fix their sig so as to get rid of the flag.
But either way, one or more people who know how to test a sig's color and contrast will have to constantly monitor the page for additions. Maybe someone from the project. ―Mandruss  19:23, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Many of the examples are from real, named, users, so I doubt it would be acceptable to publicly "shame" them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:28, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Actually all of them are real users, if you mean the "Real-life examples" section. Most of them still active, since it's only a year old. If flagging is shaming, then forget the idea. They can be notified on their talk page if they are removed, which is less public shaming, and they can delete the notice immediately to reduce the exposure even further. ―Mandruss  19:34, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
I now see that perhaps you're not talking about the "Real-life examples" section at all, since you have edited elsewhere on the page. ―Mandruss  19:54, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I was referring to the real-life examples and to "UserBob". I'd be happy to remove the former section in its entirety. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:55, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
I'd oppose that. As a computer guy, you know that you can document and tutorial all you want, but there's no substitute for real-life examples. ―Mandruss  20:02, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Fair enough. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:46, 28 July 2015 (UTC)


I want to use this signature Ayub407talk (coding in edit page) but I'm getting an error saying "invalid raw signature, check html coding". Can someone help me out. Thanks Ayub407 (talk) 08:22, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

@Ayub407: This page is for discussion of improvements to the associated project page. I'd suggest WP:HD. ―Mandruss  08:33, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
@Mandruss: Alright. Ayub407 (talk) 08:35, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
I agree with talk. You've got a Signature tutorial page that is virtually deficient because it does not show how to place fancy signatures into the Preferences. I get the same coding error. What's the use? (talk) 05:30, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Any instructions of that type are better placed at Wikipedia:Signatures#Customizing your signature. Assuming you actually have a username (unregistered users cannot customize their signatures), see if reading that helps. If not, go to WP:HD and ask for assistance. I don't know whether those instructions are adequate because I don't know the nature of the problem. All I know is that I had no trouble getting my customized signature to work. If you can identify how those instructions could be improved for future users, go to Wikipedia talk:Signatures and propose that improvement. ―Mandruss  05:54, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Help with fonts.[edit]

I need a slightly more detailed tutorial of how to use different fonts in signatures. Kindly, help.Bingobro (Chat)