Wikipedia talk:TWA/Portal

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The
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Adventure


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Welcome to the Interstellar Lounge and Cafe!


More funky, or…

…less funky.


'Sit down, have a cup. While you're here something to muse on:'

Think about what an awesome trip you're on,
How many millions of people benefit from Wikipedia every day,
How marvelous it is that people all over the world have collaborated to create this unique resource,
How important sharing knowledge is,
How people working together over time can do amazing things.

Hope that was an inspiring musing. 😎-----😇

Get help[edit]

Need help with something in The Wikipedia Adventure?

What to do next[edit]

Tips for feedback[edit]

Tell us what you liked about it, where we could improve, and what you learned

How you can help
  • Play the game all the way through. Do you get stuck anywhere? Is anything unclear?
  • Finish the game if you only played a few missions: Give some attention to missions 5-7 (which have been tested much less)
  • Start over fresh with a new account: Like User:OcaasiTWA17 (these are legitimate alternate testing accounts and are not considered sockpuppets)
  • Try a different browser: If you used Safari, try Firefox (or Chrome, Internet Explorer, Opera...)
  • Show the game to a friend or family member to see how they like it and if they get stuck anywhere
In your feedback, please include any of your thoughts on
  • text instructions within the game
  • graphic placement
  • bugs in the tour mechanics
  • your web browser
  • your screen resolution
  • which step of the tour you were on if something didn't work (see the step= in the url)
  • what you liked
  • what you didn't like
  • what you think would work better
  • your thoughts on the design: the theme, the guide, the characters, the colors, the images, the sounds
known bugs
Bug Stats
  • Fixed: 188!
  • Remaining: 3
This list is complete and up-to-date as of 04/01/2015.

Not fixable this version[edit]

  • Lingering Dialog Boxes: If you leave the tour without finishing, the guider dialog boxes will follow you until you [x] out of them (this is a Guided Tours issue generally and there's no easy fix) Example
  • Vector Only: If you're using monobook or modern etc., the layout won't work. Almost all new editors will be using Vector, so this is a known, acceptable trade-off
  • Old Internet Explorer: The game is not compatible with older versions of IE. IE8 doesn't work. Try IE9 or even better IE10.
  • Source Editor Only: The game doesn't work with Visual Editor. It could, but it won't be fixed until VE is stable and out of opt-in beta. Example
  • Mobile and Tablet Formatting Fails: While tested for most modern desktop and laptop browsers, the game is not configured to work properly on tablets and other smaller devices. It may, but we'd be getting lucky.
  • Doesn't scale to my preference of window size or scale symmetrically (ctrl 0/-/+). FF 25. (@start)

Fixable (working on these now)[edit]

mechanics[edit]

  • Reply using edit section links in some places rather than full page edit Example
  • There's no way to jump ahead if you are repeating steps or trying to get back to where you left off mid-mission.
  • If you [x] out of the tour, especially if so you can edit, then there's no way to get back to where you were (see example fix above for a 'skip' option) (should skips go per step, or per chunk?) Example
  • Galactic challenge box has only an [x] and a back button, is it clear you answer the question below? Example
Sorry to cut in, but I didn't realize that "Challenge yourself..." did anything beyond cheer-leading you to continue the game. Thanks for posting this. Wordreader (talk) 01:18, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Back buttons on edit summary steps are being cut off at the bottom, no way to go back to edit instructions.
  • "Challenge yourself..." box only displays the words "Challenge yourself..." and stays in a fixed place of the monitor at mission 5 step 7 and the following page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ælfwynya (talkcontribs) 17:58, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

usability[edit]

  • warning, only click buttons that post message once?
  • a way to say 'yes, i've done this already, skip ahead?' (add skip forward button?) Example
  • Restart Repeats: If you replay, a mission, the messages will be resent to you (the tour doesn't 'know' if you've played before). To better retest the game, create a legitimate alternate testing account (e.g. OcaasiTWA17) which is not considered a sockpuppet at all.

content[edit]

  • TWA doesn't use/introduce cite templates
  • no mention of plagiarism and copy/paste problems
  • no mention of Show Preview
  • too many smileys?

design[edit]

Feeling the Love[edit]

20:14, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

... It was quite interactive.

What I didn't like

... Number of badges wasn't enough.

What I wanted more of

... It could've been more personalized!

What was unnecessary

... Nothing.

Any other thoughts you want to share

...

20:14, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

This was super helpful.. Thank you![edit]

20:14, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

20:14, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked
  • As someone who edits Wikipedia as a hobby, I enjoyed going through this to see what's out there. It's great to have an interactive tutorial, though it's been fun to learn how to edit more or less on my own.
What I didn't like
  • I didn't like how the popups would appear in other tabs, though (1) that's probably pretty difficult to avoid, and (2) someone new is likely not editing at the same time as going through this tutorial.
What I wanted more of
  • I think it was a good length. Users can learn the basics, and learn more over time.
What was unnecessary
  • Automatically adding badges to my userpage. I think it's neat, and I know I can just remove them. Either way, I would recommend changing the automatic edit summaries for that from "New Message (simulated automatically as part of The Wikipedia Adventure)" to "New Badge (simulated automatically as part of The Wikipedia Adventure)"
Any other thoughts you want to share
  • Thanks for creating an AWESOME tutorial!

- Paul2520 (talk) 13:44, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

A very easy way to learn the basics of Wikipedia editing.

What I didn't like

Slightly-easy to accidentally break the script. Stopping a lesson in-progress could cause some problems.

What I wanted more of

It would be nice to see a separate advanced version with more advance tips and lessons.

What was unnecessary

Some of the formatting examples where a bit excessive.

Any other thoughts you want to share

Overall a very nice little tutorial.

--ZettaComposer (talk) 17:35, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

... Is how friendly the guider is.

What I didn't like

... It ended too fast.

What I wanted more of

... There's no option for that. I simply loved it.

What was unnecessary

... It simply helped you to understand how to edit and do other work of articles.

Any other thoughts you want to share

... Marvelous! --Amy2563 (talk) 09:50, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 24 May 2016[edit]

Amichaels64 (talk) 16:43, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Mlpearc (open channel) 16:48, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

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What I didn't like

Mission 2 was confusing and a little glitchy (specifically with the bolding Earth part). It sent me on a loop of bolding Earth over and over again and I didn't get a badge for doing it.

What I wanted more of

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What was unnecessary

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Any other thoughts you want to share

Is there even a badge for bolding Earth?

--Zelda120! (talk) 23:09, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

I really enjoyed the step-by-step introduction. I feel ready and want to get started! It was amusing and fun to do.

What I didn't like

I can't think of anything I didn't like

What I wanted more of

It was very helpful, so I can't think of anything else...

What was unnecessary

Everything was necessary! ;-)

Any other thoughts you want to share

Nope, awesome job guys!!

--Ttigel (talk) 13:35, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

Excellent tutorial! Really entertaining and educational, finished it in one sitting!

What I didn't like

Nothing

What I wanted more of

And Advanced Mission Expansion would be great!

What was unnecessary

It was just the right amount

Any other thoughts you want to share

During the first mission when you update your User page, the messages just looped so I had to restart it. But after that I had no more problems.

Great work, kudos!

--Arelarez (talk) 13:32, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

I had already reviewed most of the information present, but had no idea how to use the source editor. Now I feel comfortable using both the source and visual editor!

What I didn't like

I had to restart because I hit the back button once on accident.

What I wanted more of

All the syntax! I think other users would appreciate if it incorporated how to use templates.

What was unnecessary

It was all very relevant and necessary.

Any other thoughts you want to share

Great work! I wish I had found this earlier on!

--Omnitaus (talk) 19:58, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

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What I didn't like

A couple of points for programming improvement/bugs: When you finish typing a suggested edit, I (by instinct) click the 'save edit' button, without clicking the blue 'next' button on the TWA narration box element. This saves it, but leads to complications with the TWA narration. (If it isn't clear what I mean, please let me know). It should be pretty easy to program in some cases to deal with this. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's had this problem.

During the first couple of sections, I was trying to search other Wikipedia pages at the same time to clarify things I was reading etc., and the box kept coming up in the centre of the page and distracting the view.

What I wanted more of

Tags. I don't understand them. How do you tag a wiki page as being badly referenced? Badly formatted? Bad grammar? (is this all tags are used for?)

What was unnecessary

So many badges. It's nice to get a sense of achievement, but I thought it was a bit (LOT) overboard.

Any other thoughts you want to share

...

--Odcameron (talk) 04:17, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Updating numbers?[edit]

Just started going through this to evaluate whether we can encourage our new contributors to start here. Noted that Mission 1 has Wikipedia's age listed as 10 years old (could we update it to say when it started instead of trying to keep up with its age? Also, number of views per minute etc? Thanks! This is very cool to find so thanks to all the people who've made this possible!! DrMel (talk) 20:21, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

@Ocaasi (WMF): I think this may be something you will need to do, as I can't edit those pages? -- samtar talk or stalk 07:20, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done. Samtar, you could apply for template-editor userrights so you can make those changes in the future if you want. Thanks for the tip DrMel!

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

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What I didn't like

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What I wanted more of

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What was unnecessary

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Any other thoughts you want to share
It was really cool

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--Profdheeraj (talk) 19:22, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Loved the Wesnoth music![edit]

I really like Battle for Wesnoth, so the music was a nice touch! NightlyG (talk) 08:18, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

I liked the tone of the language and that it covered the basics of editing. I liked the colors and the character that came along and it went very smoothly. I love that it gives badges. I liked the realistic conversations and the conversation options.

What I didn't like

No section going through the more modern editor. The conversation options seemed a little obvious choice-wise.

What I wanted more of

Looking at the other features like bullet lists.

What was unnecessary

I thought it was very concise, nothing unnecessary.

Any other thoughts you want to share

Very good tool to learn, I wish I had this when I was just starting to edit Wikipedia. Found it by accident and I already knew most of these things but it was good to learn more. Very nice.

--TheMusicGirl (talk) 04:27, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 23 June 2016[edit]

Fixed 5 typos Sj236 (talk) 20:49, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Done. It wasn't on this page. — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 20:54, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Kde crystalsvg eraser.png Undone They are intentional as part of the TWA process. — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 21:05, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked
Slow and steady

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What I didn't like
Nothing like that

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What I wanted more of
Practice

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What was unnecessary

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Any other thoughts you want to share

...

--Sharma117 (talk) 11:33, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 11 July 2016[edit]


Kezyah (talk) 14:23, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. -- samtar talk or stalk 14:24, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

I liked how the game itself gave me a sense of achievement. In each mission, I was taught methods that I will definitely use. I also liked the fun little character that guided me along the way. Those badges were a fun little extra, too!

What I didn't like

I liked the full experience.

What I wanted more of

Perhaps a lesson on file size? In the final mission (no. 7), when you are adding the images to the "Earth" article, it would be nice if there was a tutorial on the correct file sizes for articles.

What was unnecessary

Nothing.

Any other thoughts you want to share

I've been editing with MediaWiki for a few years now, being more experienced in editing on Wikia. I'm fully aware that Wikia and Wikipedia are two different communities, but thanks to this game, I was able to learn much more about editing on Wikipedia, and now I feel brave enough to make important and more advanced edits on the website.

--BarrierBuilder (talk) 20:39, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 12 July 2016[edit]


Tinshy (talk) 23:37, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done - Empty requests cannot be fulfilled.Godsy(TALKCONT) 03:01, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

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I am Shaiju, from Kerala, India.. I would like to learn creative thinking and writing.. expecting varieties of helping hands here[edit]


Njezhungan.shaiju.cmi (talk) 17:22, 15 July 2016 (UTC) Bold text

Not an edit request.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:33, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

...Creative

What I didn't like

...Too lenghty

What I wanted more of

...Less content

What was unnecessary

...Nothing

Any other thoughts you want to share

...No

--Monalisa.sinha93 (talk) 09:00, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 16 July 2016[edit]


Rajeshmathewnobert (talk) 12:14, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 17 July 2016[edit]

Hi I am Priyanka Kumari, I am from india: Priyanka christ (talk) 02:47, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Given the feedback[edit]

Thanks a lot. It's an excellent method of teaching the procedures--Njezhungan.shaiju.cmi (talk) 05:18, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

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What I didn't like

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What I wanted more of

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What was unnecessary

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Any other thoughts you want to share

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--Njezhungan.shaiju.cmi (talk) 05:18, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 18 July 2016[edit]

Leena kullu (talk) 09:28, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. -- samtar talk or stalk 09:50, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Just a thank you -[edit]

Feedback[edit]

What I liked
4 hours to do Mission 1, 2, and 3. Three times. But So Discouraged, I came back and sure enough - the 'twinkler' {my name for the tutor} came back with very wonderful suggestions "After" playing lovely music for me. I. Earned. Three. Badges. As I'm a story teller and writer - (not a journalist) I "love this place" & hope to be a good 'tightener' 'cleaner' & who knows... maybe I'll meet a translator for my books. I am encouraged. I was so scared in 2012 when I went into my "sandbox" - but the user-friendly that's here now. Wow. 10++ Really. I'm famous for saying, "No wrong things on purpose- even if I have to put my head on my knees & just breathe... " Really proud of your interaction and 'user friendly' signs posted e-v-e-r-w-h-e-r-e. Important. You're a vital resource for me- and there's nothing I'd ever do to cause harm. (If I screw up? I didn't mean to.)
What I didn't like
I miss Adobe graphic point & click and graphics - but... "this" as I've called you forever "My Wiki PEEPS!" - is my lifesaver so I truly intend on returning the favor - {just not a journalist] [expansive writer] [so... I'll find my place but at this 'pace' it'll be quite some time before "I write for the Real Deal."

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What I wanted more of
It's been some time since I've gotten to "play" working to learn - I see deletions, I see angst, and ego... I sense war of the words - Eventually- (if I survive & grow) my goal {ultimately} would be to help quell this. Meouch.

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What was unnecessary
oooooo - how would I possible know. But I will keep feeling my way through it. I have enormous admiration about your "stepped up" patrols - I'd "PDF" print "gobs" & email them to myself, just to have an article (writer's research) to pull from as the edits are subtle but falling like reign-rain. O= Grr. Planetkimsmith (talk) 10:22, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

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Any other thoughts you want to share
**LOTS TO LEARN - THANK YOU!!** && the 'font' is hard for me to see - Sure would be nice if the default build-font was a bit thicker.

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--Planetkimsmith (talk) 10:22, 21 July 2016 (UTC)