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Hi. Just created this article covering the new DPWH highways and expressways route numbers and classifications as per the 2015 DPWH Road Atlas. Appreciate you guys' help in filling in all those highway routes information. Thanks.--RioHondo (talk) 11:39, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
You may want to ask Sky Harbor for help. About two years ago, he showed me a document or website (I think) about those route numbers and classification. That would be a great help if he can share it. --Jojit (talk) 09:51, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Jojit! Actually, it was SkyHarbor who informed me about those DPWH routes about 2 years ago also. I just hadnt gotten around to actually studying it and doing an article on it because it looked too complicated hehe, until i saw users adding those route images in road articles recently. Glad a few editors have started to help out with the info. Where is our resident road/rail expert SkyHarbor anyway? :)--RioHondo (talk) 17:30, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
I saw the article in question before Jojit informed me about it on the Tagalog Wikipedia, but so far, so good. Certainly has my seal of approval, but if you ask me, it would be wise to have parallel articles for the following:
Numbered highways composed of several roads (e.g. N59 vs. its constituent roads)
AH26 should be its own article (as I mentioned previously, and not as a redirect to the Pan-Philippine Highway, which is where N1 should redirect to), which is composed of several national highways, which in turn is composed of several roads on some of those numbered segments (e.g. N10 and its two constituent roads)
As for all other highways, may I suggest adding route shields to them where appropriate, and adding redirects only if the highway number is linked to a single road. For example, N11 should redirect to Circumferential Road 5 and the N11 shield included in the C-5 infobox because in the RNS, only the entirety of C-5 is signed N11, but N54 shouldn't redirect to Kennon Road because it would exclude the three other constituent roads within its route.
Finally, I would suggest beginning a gradual rollback of using C and R numbers for road references in articles (as I'm inclined to believe these have been deprecated with the new RNS), moving progressively to using N numbers only. So, for example, instead of seeing "R-5Ortigas Avenue", we should start seeing "Ortigas Avenue" instead. --Sky Harbor(talk) 13:26, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
To be honest, I haven't completely studied the routes so im still clueless on many things like the difference between AH26 and N1 highway. LOL! This might take time, but i agree with all your suggestions, including the gradual shift to the N routes for our Manila radial and circumferential roads. Let's see which ones match up. I'm hoping to start with the Metro Manila roads that we have but would probably prioritize those primary roads, specifically the first 99 routes. The number of secondary roads looks like it runs in the hundreds so we can forget that. Added TagaSanPedroAko to the loop.--RioHondo (talk) 17:36, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
I'm aware that AH26 is not the whole N1, if basing on signage, and the DPWH Road Atlas, which includes all information on the roads that form the national highway system (primary, secondary, tertiary), and I agree that AH26 should be its own article, but Pan-Philippine Highway should be redirected to it, as Pan-Philippine Highway is not the whole N1. What is called N1, based on the laest DPWH Road Atlas data, would be parts of
Manila North Road from Laoag to Allacapan
Bangag - Magapit Road and Junction Logac - Magapit Road from Allacapan to Lal-lo
Davao - Cotabato Road (MacArthur Highway) from Davao City to Digos
Digos-Makar Road from Digos to General Santos
Makar - Marbel Road from General Santos to Koronadal
Cotabato - Marbel Road/Marbel - Allah Junction - Cotabato Road from Koronadal to Cotabato City (with gaps on sections inside ARMM, maintained by the regional government instead of the DPWH)
Malabang - Dobleston - Tukuran Road in Lanao del Norte
Tucuran Junction - Karomatan Junction Road from Lanao del Norte-Zamboanga del Sur boundary at Tukuran to Labangan
Lanao - Pagadian - Zamboanga Road and Pagadian City - Zamboanga City Road from Labangan to Zamboanga City.
AH26 is not always on N1, as on the segments past Alabang up to Calamba Exit of SLEX, and perhaps on Davao City, where it follows Carlos P. Garcia Highway (Davao City Diversion Road/N913). AH26 rather follows E2 (South Luzon Expressway) from Alabang to Turbina, Calamba, instead of the N1.-TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 11:23, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Hey folks. I was just going to look at the discussions of the Kingdom of Tondo article for reference on steps forward, and now I can't find it. It was supposed to be archived in Archive 40, if ever, right? Not sure why I can't find it there. - Alternativity (talk) 04:56, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
The Philippine Islands is a monumental 55-volume book by Emma Blair and James Alexander Robertson. It consists of primary source documents for Philippine history translated into English.
Electronic copies of the book in text format for vols. 1-14, 16-47 are available from Project Gutenberg, while scanned copies of the pages for the whole set are available from the University of Michigan Digital Library.
Copies are also downloadable for free as Kindle E-Books. :D Happy reading. - Alternativity (talk) 13:23, 12 March 2017 (UTC)