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Option to BLAR a page

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Can there be added a feature to WP:BLAR a page? That is, blank it, and redirect it to an article/section of the user's choosing? Kingsacrificer (talk) 09:41, 19 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

This might be a dumb question, but... why? BLAR just involves editing the page, Ctrl+A, then typing in #REDIRECT [target]. Doesn't seem like it would save all that much time and effort to use TW for this. Primefac (talk) 10:28, 19 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Because that way, it can also inform the top contributors of the page that a BLAR action is being made on the page. Manual BLAR-ers might skip that step. Kingsacrificer (talk) 18:50, 19 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Also, it could prompt for rcats, or at least add {{r with history}}. lp0 on fire () 08:51, 31 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Is this being developed? Kingsacrificer (talk) 18:40, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Kingsacrificer Not sure, but you can use User:Eejit43/scripts/redirect-helper for something similar to what you're describing. FaviFake (talk) 19:34, 4 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Needs consensus first due to the objection above. –Novem Linguae (talk) 00:24, 5 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

User tags

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It would be handy if Twinkle could be used to apply templates meant for tagging user (talk) pages by third parties, such as {{Not around}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:05, 2 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like a reasonable idea. Next step is to think about what module we'd put it in, then to create a GitHub ticket. –Novem Linguae (talk) 06:30, 3 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The former is beyond my pay-grade. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:02, 3 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Novem Linguae: We could put it in the tag module--I'm thinking it could provide different tag options for different namespaces. ~ rusty meow ~ 19:00, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Not showing in preferences for some users

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I teach classes and tell my students to install Twinkle. Some of my students this semester cannot install it - it does not appear in their preferences. I confirmed it visually - for some it is not there (should be between gadet "revisionjumpe" and "Suppress display of all CentralNotices", but for some there is no Twinkle button to activate, and it also doesn't show up in their search). At this point I cannot identify a common cause for some of them not having it - is it supressed/hidden for new editors or such (an early guess)? Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here 07:06, 3 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, its shown only for autoconfirmed and confirmed users. – SD0001 (talk) 07:15, 3 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
This should be mentioned in Wikipedia:Twinkle#Quick_info Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here 07:19, 3 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a mention. Toadspike [Talk] 17:43, 3 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I seen now this was already in the notes below, but - who reads that far down :P Now it's much better Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here 01:47, 4 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
It was also in the first line of the page. "It allows autoconfirmed users to ..." – SD0001 (talk) 06:02, 4 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@SD0001 Fair, but redundancy is important here - I skipped the intro as I know what Twinke is, and we just looked at the place (section) we expected to be most relevant. Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here 13:44, 5 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

CT templates

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it would be great is we could use twinkle to put CT notice templates on user talk pages, especailly if ti would check whether they have aware templates or prior notices. (i think this functionality is in place for others, but i could be wrong). -- Aunva6talk - contribs 20:40, 3 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

You can install User:TheresNoTime/Scripts/CT-Helper.js as a workaround. –Novem Linguae (talk) 13:01, 4 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Updates to AfD backend

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Technical assistance would be appreciated at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion § Follow up from RfC. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:44, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Voorts. Did you have any specific changes in mind for Twinkle? Will this affect the XFD -> Articles for Deletion page's options/layout? (That page is used to file AFDs.)
Also, will this affect WP:XFDCLOSER at all? That gadget is used to close AFDs. If so, may also want to post there. –Novem Linguae (talk) 02:15, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Novem Linguae: I don't think XFDCLOSER will require any updates since it already supports merging. I think Twinkle's AfD layout will need to be changed to be similar to CfD so that editors can specify the outcome they're selecting. That will need to be paired with changes to the templates to indicate what is being proposed. voorts (talk/contributions) 15:50, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. I guess post here again once the templates are updated, and we'll take a look. –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:32, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Novem Linguae: see Special:Diff/1346945924. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:13, 3 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to Chaotic Enby. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:14, 3 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Basically, Twinkle should now give editors an option to pick the type of action they're suggesting, and for merges/redirects, add the name of the target page. I think Twinkle should also tag the target page for merges with {{merge from AfD}}, linking to the AfD discussion. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:31, 3 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Should the merge/merge to/merge from tags be removed from the tag menu's options, assuming the new process takes care of it? Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:00, 3 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I think so. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:11, 3 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I wrote a ticket at https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2335. It's missing some details though. 1) What's the exact list of options you want in the dropdown? 2) Is the only change to the writing of {{Article for deletion/dated}} to add `|target=` for the situations merge and redirect? 3) What wikitext exactly should be written for {{Merge from AfD}}? What parameters? Feel free to reply on GitHub if you want. Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 12:58, 4 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Novem Linguae
  1. The template has been updated to support these four options: Deletion, Merging, Redirecting, Draftification. On github, the last one is missing. These are selected using the |outcome= parameter. See {{Article for deletion/dated/testcases}} for the 4 cases.
  2. Yes, but there are other changes unrelated to the writing of the AfdD template on the page to nominate, such as to the talk page notice sent to the creator of the page. They will need to be adapted to what the user has picked. Note that the |target= parameter is optional, of course; editors oftentimes don't know right away where an article should be merged, for example.
    • For deletion, nothing changes.
    • For merging: {{subst:Afd notice|ARTICLENAME|outcome=merge|target=TARGETNAME}}
    • For redirection: {{subst:Afd notice|ARTICLENAME|outcome=redirect|target=TARGETNAME}}
    • For drafitication: {{subst:Afd notice|ARTICLENAME|outcome=draftify}} (it doesn't support |target=)
  3. At WT:AFD we've decided to rely on the main {{Merge from}} template, since the other was just a copy with some longer and outdated text. So the parameters are:
    {{Merge from
    |1=FIRSTPAGE|2=SECONDPAGE|...
    |afd      =FIRSTPAGE (3rd nomination)
    |section  =yes
    |date     ={{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}}}
    
    Every parameter is optional except |1= and |date=, and the template supports 20 unnamed parameters, so a maximum of 20 source articles (to use for bundled AfD nominations). |section= should only be added if the proposed destination is a section and the template is placed at the top of that section.
    Here's how {{merge from}} should link to the AfD discussion:
We will continue supporting the old |talk= and |discuss= parameters until all old PAM merge proposals that use it are closed, and once the implementation is finished we can turn them into aliases of |afd=.
Point 3 was heavily edited to match the current behavior after Chaotic Enby added the |afd= parameter. FaviFake (talk) 19:26, 4 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify, I didn't add the target parameter for draftification as the name of the target is relatively immaterial, usually being Draft:ARTICLENAME or (if the latter is preoccupied) Draft:ARTICLENAME 2, which doesn't affect the discussion like a merge/redirect target would.
The part after the "Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/" already exists as a parameter, name. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:47, 4 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! And in the last paragraph I was referring to {{merge from}}. I guess you could copy the same functionality to that template as well? FaviFake (talk) 19:50, 4 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Yep! Also I misremembered, the parameter for the AfD template is page, not name. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:52, 4 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I edited the original post in the ticket. Please check it out when you get a chance and let me know if it needs further changes. Feel free to reply in the GitHub ticket to keep things centralized. –Novem Linguae (talk) 09:09, 5 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
 Done, see [1]. FaviFake (talk) 09:22, 5 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@FaviFake, I used the redirect template in case we want to split it out from {{merge from}} at some point in the future for an unforeseen reason. voorts (talk/contributions) 19:15, 4 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks and sorry! That makes sense. I think a parameter like the one i suggested above could be used for this purpose, to avoid making the transition harder for users and bots FaviFake (talk) 19:30, 4 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I've finalised my proposed plan for the transition. What are we thinking, especially about the last paragraph? Is it doable to implement into Twinkle? (logging off for now, I'll respond tomorrow) FaviFake (talk) 21:40, 4 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Novem Linguae: XFDcloser does in fact need updates, specifically it needs to use the newly introduced named parameters for {{afd-merge to}}+{{afd-merge from}} so that the unnamed parameters can be repurposed to align with how the {{merge}}+{{being merged}} series handle unnameds; we have already discussed this extensively in Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion#Implementing the PAM–AfD merge.
We have a maintenance category in use to track the deprecated use: Category:AfD merge templates using unnamed parameters. Currently it is only populated with pages using {{afd-merged-from}} (which is not used by XFDcloser), as I have kept the other afd-merge templates updated with the named parameters via periodically checking a cross-cat search (+ all namespaces enabled), but current XFDcloser usage reintroduces population with the other templates.
I've had a PR open for a few days that resolves this: https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/xfdcloser/pull/133, but as I missed this discussion it seems to have slipped under the radar. ~ oklopfer (💬) 19:05, 9 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Oklopfer. Manually tested, merged, and deployed. Thanks for the patch! –Novem Linguae (talk) 00:02, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for updating! :) ~ oklopfer (💬) 00:05, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Novem Linguae it seems like the change was inadvertently rolled back in the most recent bump: Special:Diff/1347983525 ~ oklopfer (💬) 12:43, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Per the two recent edit summaries v4.0.16 at 72f6fa2 and v4.0.16 at 60a827b, seems like this was due to using generated outputs from the PR commits rather than their squashes into the repo, and 60a827b was not rebased to include 72f6fa2. ~ oklopfer (💬) 16:47, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I probably forgot to change back to the master branch before I ran `npm run deploy`. Try it now. Also, when #101 add this tool to https://gadget-deploy.toolforge.org/ is finished, the possibility for this human error will go away :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:21, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Looks all good now, thanks again! ~ oklopfer (💬) 22:13, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding XFDCLOSER, thanks for reminding me that I was halfway through coding the draftifying option and should definitely finish it some day! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 20:18, 3 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
See relevant TfD discussion as well: Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2026 April 4#Merge templates. voorts (talk/contributions) 19:52, 4 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
What's the urgency of this one? https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2335 looks like a lot of work. Probably spread across multiple patches, adding one option to the dropdown at a time. –Novem Linguae (talk) 00:03, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say it's the most urgent of the requests so that editors can actually use Twinkle to nominate articles for merging. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:07, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Novem Linguae The most urgent change is to allow editors to add |outcome=merge to te AFD template when using the twinkle XFD popup. Anything else is less urgent (but still very much necessary!) FaviFake (talk) 15:54, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
That one is the most complicated of the 3 new dropdown options. I'll probably start with draftify, the easy one :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:30, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, but you don't need to implement the merging one all at once. For example you could just add a very simple check box that says "this is a merge proposal" and literally just adds the parameter |outcome=merge to the AFD template on that page alone, without doing anything else. That would already go a very long way towards helping editors nominate articles for mergers. The rest is less important. FaviFake (talk) 21:39, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Updated the GitHub todo list, and replied in GitHub with a question. –Novem Linguae (talk) 22:11, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
And I replied with an answer :) FaviFake (talk) 06:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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Any reason why Template:CCI notice is not included in the talkback menu? 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:59, 9 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, no particular reason. Just need someone to code it up. I created a ticket for you. –Novem Linguae (talk) 00:06, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Warning template for using LLMs

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Is there a template for warning against using ai in editing? per Wikipedia:LLM

Should there be if not? Chattenoir (talk) 19:45, 11 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

{{Uw-ai1}} through {{Uw-ai4}} are probably what you're looking for. Yeah, good idea to put it in Twinkle. I created a ticket. –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:05, 11 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Turns out {{Uw-ai1}} through {{Uw-ai4}} are already in Twinkle. –Novem Linguae (talk) 03:12, 12 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Listing for discussion of Template:Template for discussion

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Template:Template for discussion has been listed for discussion, which may result in the template being merged or deleted by consensus. You are invited to comment on the proposed action at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. VidanaliK (talk to me) (contributions) 18:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion has already been closed as "Speedy keep" -- John of Reading (talk) 06:52, 14 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Closing without actionNovem Linguae (talk) 10:48, 16 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Bot requests § Arbitration enforcement editnotices. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:54, 14 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Closing without actionNovem Linguae (talk) 08:38, 1 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

A10 deletion problem?

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I just nominated an article for deletion for duplication of an existing article: Information on Pennsylvania Abolition Society. On that page, the deletion notice correctly includes the other article, Pennsylvania Abolition Society, but on the user talk page, User talk:Chanceykate, the deletion section shows '''[[:{{{article}}}]]'''. Fram (talk) 16:39, 14 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Diff. I wasn't able to reproduce this on testwiki. We're probably missing a step to reproduce. Maybe this involves following a redirect, or linking a deleted page, or something complicated like that. In general, Twinkle is pasting this on user talk pages for A10s: {{subst:db-a10-notice|NovemTest110|nowelcome=|article=Test|{{{key2}}}={{{value2}}}|{{{key3}}}={{{value3}}}}}<!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> ~~~~Novem Linguae (talk) 08:57, 1 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Merge discussions

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Proposed article merges now have to go through AfD, but the procedure is slightly different, because you also have to add {{Merge from}} to the target page and use {{subst:Mergenote}} to notify the page creator. It doesn't seem like Twinkle can do that currently, would be great to have that feature. 🍅 fx (talk) 09:26, 16 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

This is being worked on! See #Updates to AfD backend above with the link to the github issue. ScrubbedFalcon (talk) 09:52, 16 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Admins, interested in an "LTA" block preset?

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Someone submitted a patch for the block module adding an "LTA" preset, and I want to double check consensus. The details of it include 1) indef, 2) blocking user talk page access, 3) doesn't leave a template on user talk, and 4) block log reason of "Long-term abuse". Does this sound useful to add to Twinkle? –Novem Linguae (talk) 02:30, 18 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that would be great. Should block email also. nvmd looking at the PR i see it does. Mfield (Oi!) 02:35, 18 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Toadspike [Talk] 08:08, 18 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

uw-unsourced1

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The text of uw-unsourced1 is: Hello, I'm [own username]. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, [name of the article], but you didn't provide a reliable source. On Wikipedia, it's important that article content be verifiable. If you'd like to resubmit your change with a citation, your edit is archived in the page history. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page.

Regarding the second last sentence: I want to warn users also in cases I didn't archive the edit in the page history. That second last sentence of the warning message should be removed.

Regarding the last sentence: Leave a message on one own's talk page? Why? The topic is added on the user's talk page so the discussion should be made there. WikiPate (talk) 14:24, 18 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The second to last sentence is a beginner-friendly way of saying "your edit's wikitext still exists as a diff and is still in the history tab if we ever decide to restore it". The last sentence is just a standard sentence included in many user warning templates. The advantage of moving the conversation to your user talk is that you may not be watching the user talk page or be subscribed to the section of every person you warn. –Novem Linguae (talk) 14:29, 18 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The second last sentence confuses the user if the edit has not been reverted. Is it consensus on Wikipedia that a discussion started on the talk page of user B by user A should be continued on the talk page of user A? WikiPate (talk) 14:34, 18 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
If you're concerned enough about unsourced content to leave a Talk page notice for someone, then I'm confused as to why you wouldn't be concerned enough about it to revert it. I don't leave this notice for an editor unless I have reverted their edit because it added unsourced content.
There's no consensus of the nature you describe, and in fact it's probably a bit counterintuitive in general, but Novem already explicated why it might be helpful, especially with regard to newer users. DonIago (talk) 15:19, 18 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
It's more friendly and cooperative to not revert something immediately, but to give the user 2 days to add a reliable reference. Especially for new users it's more easy to add a reference instead of also re-adding the deleted content.
Or sometimes I added a reference by myself but also want to make it clear to the user to do that by themselves in the future. WikiPate (talk) 18:09, 18 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like you have a non-standard workflow. The disadvantages of not reverting immediately are inefficiency, and leaving bad content in view of readers. The advantage as you mention is treating newcomers better (WP:BITE). –Novem Linguae (talk) 22:13, 18 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I'm unlikely to remember to revert unsourced content some arbitrary amount of time after I've first seen it. If I don't think it should be immediately removed I'll CN tag it, but then I also wouldn't leave a note for the editor who'd inserted it. DonIago (talk) 22:25, 18 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I always subscribe to the topics I started on a user's talk page. Is it possible that Twinkle automatically subscribes to a topic that was created on a user's talk page? Then the last sentence of the warning message is not needed anymore. Or is it possible to add a checkbox in Twinkle for not adding the second last and last sentence to that warning message? WikiPate (talk) 14:46, 18 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
There's no requirement that people leaving user warnings subscribe to the Talk pages where they're leaving those warnings, and there are probably reasonable reasons why there shouldn't be such a requirement. If you don't like part of a warning template, you can always edit the message or even create a custom version of it for your own use. DonIago (talk) 15:21, 18 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
just to clarify: not subscribing to the whole talk page, only subscribing to the created topic of a user's page.
"edit the message" means Twinkle posts the standard message and then I edit it afterwards with a second edit?
It is possible to create a custom warning with Twinkle? WikiPate (talk) 18:01, 18 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
You can! You could for example store a version of a template on a subpage of your userspace (e.g., User:WikiPate/uw-sourcing) and add it as a custom warning in your Twinkle preferences. Make sure to clear your cache before you test it in the User talk:Sandbox ScrubbedFalcon (talk) 18:24, 18 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Is it possible that Twinkle automatically subscribes to a topic that was created on a user's talk page? A preference to auto subscribe a user to talk page sections is possible (I did it in another gadget I maintain, WP:AFCH), but I don't think has been done for Twinkle yet. I also recall the API query I was using not being designed specifically for this use case, so had some challenges.
Or is it possible to add a checkbox in Twinkle for not adding the second last and last sentence to that warning message? Changes like this would first need to be made to the template itself. And would need consensus since your workflow is non-standard. –Novem Linguae (talk) 22:18, 18 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Another thing is: When putting the link of "Difference between revisions" into the "linked page" input field of Twinkle, it looks like this:
I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Largest_airlines_in_the_world&diff=prev&oldid=1338740426, but you didn't provide a reliable source.
That looks like a bug. It should look like this:
I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Largest airlines in the world, but you didn't provide a reliable source.
The advantage is, that the user does not need to find the exact edit by themselves, especially when the user made several edits in a row. The user can more easily restore the deleted content and provide a reliable reference. WikiPate (talk) 07:18, 19 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I think that's a usage issue on your side. If you revert someone and, from the page with the revert, go to the Talk page of the editor for whom you wish to leave a warning, the appropriate link will automatically populate. If you don't do it this way or otherwise populate it yourself, then it's incumbent on you to enter the link in the format in which you wish it to appear. DonIago (talk) 08:12, 19 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
i want this code to be added into Twinkle:
if the Twinkle user adds https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=name of article&diff=prev&oldid=oldid into the "linked page" input field, then format it like this: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=name of article&diff=prev&oldid=oldid name of article] WikiPate (talk) 08:31, 19 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Would need to be changed in the template first. But this is non standard usage. It might make more sense for you to just switch to the standard usage, which is putting the page title instead of a diff URL. That is, instead of trying to change Twinkle and templates for 50,000+ users, instead just change the approach for 1 person. –Novem Linguae (talk) 12:18, 19 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Closing without actionNovem Linguae (talk) 08:20, 1 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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See Template talk:Rfd2#Adding a link to internal search. Please reply to indicate whether this change can be made without impacting Twinkle. Thanks, wbm1058 (talk) 15:04, 20 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Probably won't break anything. I replied on the Rfd2 talk page :) Closing without actionNovem Linguae (talk) 08:20, 1 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Don't add protection templates to certain template pages

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At User_talk:Redrose64#Protecting_templates, I learned that template pages with {{Documentation}} or {{Collapsible option}} do not need protection templates, as those templates add the protection icon automatically. Would it be possible to have Twinkle check for this and not add protection templates if those are templates are already found on the page? Toadspike [Talk] 14:59, 21 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Novem Linguae Redrose has informed me [2] that {{Redirect category shell}} also has this functionality. See my sandbox test for a demonstration. Toadspike [Talk] 07:47, 12 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I updated the ticket. –Novem Linguae (talk) 11:50, 12 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Full citations needed

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Can we add the banner {{Full citations needed}} to Twinkle's list of available maintenance tags? Thank you! — voidxor 18:39, 21 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

it appears the Twinkle isn't correctly handling the db-gs-notice codes. -- Aunva6talk - contribs 22:03, 23 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I've been running into this for several months now. Sarsenethe/they•(talk) 09:01, 30 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. Thanks for reporting! –Novem Linguae (talk) 11:54, 1 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Sarsenethe/they•(talk) 12:12, 1 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Merging has moved from the "Tag" module to the "XFD" module

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Hello friends. To comply with Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Merging merge discussions with AfD#RfC: Merging merge discussions with AfD, all merges must now be done by nominating the page for AFD. As such, the latest version of Twinkle that I just deployed removed the {{Merge}}, {{Merge to}}, and {{Merge from}} tags from the "Tags" module, and added a "Desired outcome" dropdown (that includes options such as delete, merge, redirect, and draftify) to the "XFD" module.

So anyway, to tag an article for merging, please use the new XFD -> AFD -> Desired outcome -> Merge workflow. Thanks! –Novem Linguae (talk) 11:48, 27 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Novem Linguae: How do I add merge tags to drafts? After not finding the merge tags under "Tag", and being lost for a long time, I found this discussion. Jay 💬 14:06, 2 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Not NL, but I've been working on these issues also. The old merge tags are slated to become wrappers of {{AfD}}, so probably not useful for drafts. You could consider a WP:BOLDMERGE or sending the draft creator a message encouraging them to do the merge boldly? I've been working on a new {{Consider merging}} template that's more similar to {{Notability}} in that it suggests a merge for a particular reason without adding it to a backlog (per the PAM/AfD merge RfC). The usefulness of that last option is still being discussed elsewhere. ScrubbedFalcon (talk) 14:58, 2 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Bugs with the new XfD module

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The new XfD module seems have a couple of relatively minor issues:

  1. When editors set a redirect as the target the module doesn't place the {{merge from}} template on the proposed destination article (the redirect target) as intended. See for example this nomination which nominated the article for merging to this redirect. I've fixed the issue manually for now in this case. I see two possible solutions:
    • Adjust tagTargetPageWithMergeFromTag to follow hard redirects.
    • Forbid setting redirects as the target. Is there a redirect page object that twinkle already parses that would make creating this warning relatively easy?
  2. The edit summary when twinkle places the merging version of the template still reads Nominated for deletion; see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/...]]. I think this should be a relatively easy fix on line 1290 of the xfd module to pass the value of the outcome variable into the edit summary. So, something like pageobj.setEditSummary('Nominated for ' + params.outcome + ' ; see [[:' + params.discussionpage + ']].');

ScrubbedFalcon (talk) 10:05, 28 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Patch written. Will deploy the fix in 24 hours, to give time for code review comments. –Novem Linguae (talk) 12:23, 28 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Twinkle specific documentation about a template?

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Over at Wikipedia talk:Template index/User talk namespace#Uw-login being for "controversial" edits User:Belbury says, when discussing {{Uw-login}}: WP:TWINKLE also gives the reason for using the template as simply "Editing while logged out", although I'm not sure where that definition is coming from.

Where can I find what he is talking about? Where is this "reason" stored? I know nothing about Twinkle. Cheers CapnZapp (talk) 10:13, 4 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at Wikipedia:Twinkle/doc#Warn (user talk warnings), there's an illustrative graphic to the right (it can also be seen at File:Twinkle-warn-dialog.png. The text appears where you select the type of warning/notice you wish to issue to an editor. I'm not entirely sure where that text is being pulled from, though. DonIago (talk) 17:03, 4 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I could probably comb through what I think is the code responsible and find out, but I thought I'd save a lot of time and headache by simply asking here instead... I guess it is possible the Twinkle code just pulls whatever Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace#Single-level templates says, instead of storing a string somewhere. But I didn't see any special editor instructions when looking at its source text, so I wouldn't bet on it. CapnZapp (talk) 20:13, 4 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
After a quick Ctrl-F, the definition appears to be hardcoded in an object on line 1357 of the file you linked. ~ rusty meow ~ 23:22, 4 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. CapnZapp (talk) 09:14, 5 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it's probably hard-coded. Do you want me to change it to something else? Would you like to propose a new wording? –Novem Linguae (talk) 13:00, 5 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Novem Linguae: I have edited WP:WARNING, see Wikipedia talk:Template index/User talk namespace#Regarding uw-login. The current editing while logged out policy reads If you have concerns that a temporary account is being inappropriately used by someone with a registered account, you can give the temporary account notice of this policy ({{subst:uw-login}} is available for this purpose) so if the template once was used to discourage logged-out edits overall, it no longer should be. If you feel a change to Twinkle to match this is warranted, and assuming my version remains stable, my contribution is "Making potentially controversial edits while logged out". Regards, CapnZapp (talk) 15:48, 8 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I filed a ticket for you to get the process started. –Novem Linguae (talk) 06:17, 9 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, but I'm not using Twinkle. Please consider that ticket yours. That's why I left the decision in your hands. I don't know how close tabs Twinkle keeps on the various policies and what not its source code phrases are based on, so I posted this talk section in anticipation of giving a heads-up something that appeared connected to Twinkle changed. Cheers CapnZapp (talk) 10:35, 9 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I find that reply a bit confusing. You're the one that wants the change, so it's up to you to tell me if I summarized your request correctly in that ticket or not. –Novem Linguae (talk) 15:15, 9 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I am informing you and everyone reading this talk of a change I made (that appears stable) to how a template is described by Template index/User talk namespace, User:Novem Linguae. If you feel it would be useful to reflect this in the Twinkle tool, you are welcome to make the change. I leave the details of how you accomplish this up to you and other Twinkle users. The new wording would be "Making potentially controversial edits while logged out". Best regards, CapnZapp (talk) 16:29, 9 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Feature request - open Welcome instead of Warn automatically

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When you use Rollback on an edit, preferences can be configured to automatically open the editor's talk page and open the Warn dialogue box. Is it possible to enhance this feature, so that when the user talk page doesn't yet exist, Twinkle opens the Welcome menu instead of the Warn menu?

Personally, I would like the following (I know others may want it to work different, just providing an example of what I mean):

  • User talk page exists - open Warn menu
  • User talk page doesn't exist (registered editor) - open Welcome menu
  • User talk page doesn't exist (Temporary Account) - open Warn menu (perhaps configurable in preferences?)

Danners430 tweaks made 11:10, 6 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure this is a good idea. If you are rolling back someone's edits and then visiting their user talk, it is usually to warn them. We could create an option to both warn and welcome, but that's getting a bit complicated on the coding side, so may also not be a good idea. –Novem Linguae (talk) 11:53, 12 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Well yes - but if it’s a newly registered user, it’s generally good practice to leave the appropriate welcome template rather than a warning template… for example if the editor made an unsourced change, I’d be leaving {{welcome-unsourced}} instead of {{uw-unsourced1}} Danners430 tweaks made 11:56, 12 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Requested moves § RM/TR section heading changes. Tenshi! (Talk page) 23:07, 8 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Possible bug with {{checkuserblock-account}}

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I noticed that when admins block with this reason and with TPA revoked, the block template doesn't include the |notalk=yes parameter but it seems to do so for all other block templates. This probably needs to be fixed. Here is an example of this bug. --Prothe1st (leave me a message)-- 21:51, 9 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The "Assume good faith" revert button is not appearing

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So I'm fighting vandalism. Sometimes. Or most of the time. And I mostly assume these edits are bad faith because of a bug: the button is not appearing. I checked my preferences and the button won't appear, even if I saw other users reverting edits starting with "Reverted good faith...". It's probably because I don't have rollback rights (manual reverting is still occasionally helpful), but what I'm seeing looks something like this:

Any help? - SimpleObjects-9ei 🌸/🌻/🌞 22:54, 10 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

To my knowledge, that's just simplified for logs (see how it also doesn't include an option to welcome). I don't have rollback either, and it lets me do both buttons. You just have to look at the diff itself to do AGF rollback. 🫀 Crash // Organhaver ( it / he | talk to me, maybe? ) 23:32, 10 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Correct; the [rollback (AGF)] option is only shown when viewing a diff, not the history of a page. Primefac (talk) 00:00, 11 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Nor in contributions, which seems like where the user is looking (since it has the (current) tag). 🫀 Crash // Organhaver ( it / he | talk to me, maybe? ) 00:59, 11 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Edit summary describing uw-image1 as "vandalism"

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An editor has been offended, perfectly reasonably, by the edit summary of General note: Image-related vandalism in articles on [...] when I gave them a good faith {{uw-image1}} warning using Twinkle.

Although the wording of templates uw-image2 and uw-image4 both use the term "vandalism", the text of uw-image1 itself only says that an image appeared to be irrelevant to the article or violated the image use policy, and all level 1 templates assume good faith. (Even Twinkle's edit summary for uw-vand1 does not use the word "vandalism"!)

Can we reword the image1 edit summary to General note: Inappropriate images in articles on [...]? Belbury (talk) 10:17, 15 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

LLMPROD

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Any chance the recently adopted WP:LLMPROD could be added as an option in Twinkle? InfernoHues (talk) 01:33, 16 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

On it! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:41, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Feature request: additional parameters for tagging as AI-generated

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Hello, I would like to suggest improvements to how Twinkle implements Template:AI-generated.

  • add |reason= parameter
  • add ability to start talk page discussion (like tagging for Template:COI functions with Twinkle)

Further discussion can be found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject AI Cleanup#Template:AI-generated span. Thank you, Wracking talk! 21:53, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at {{COI}}'s implementation, it seems like it forces the discussion to take place on the talk page, while {{AI-generated}} offers both options. How do you envision both to be set up? Two different text fields, or one text field with two options to post (in which case we'd have to make a choice between inline and free-form text field)? Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:40, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The implementation of some templates like {{Expert needed}} give a choice between a reason and a talk page header, as two different fields. Presumably, giving the user a choice between reason and free-form talk page section would be the best here. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:42, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I imagined there being two optional text fields: one provides a short description of the issues (to fill in |reason=), and one provides a way of automatically starting a talk-page discussion (for lengthier explanations). So it might look like the {{Expert needed}} set-up, but works like the {{COI}} implementation and helps editors skip a step by starting the talk page discussion for them.
It might also be good to hear from editors doing more of the heavy lifting on AI cleanup than me—@Gnomingstuff and I2Overcome: what would be helpful for you? Wracking talk! 23:53, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot, that's what I've been coding so great to hear. Well by "coding" I really mean copy-pasting and adapting something that's half made of JSON but hey! That counts! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:54, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
There is very little that can be done mechanically to the template that will help me. What would help is getting people to not remove it without actually fixing the issues, and it would also be nice to not have to create ~4,500 more pointless talk page templates. It would also be even more nice to turn off the bot that keeps moving this under "Multiple issues," which makes the "reason" parameter go away, and I have been yelled at before for not including it. It would be nice to not have to play whack-a-mole with a bot. Gnomingstuff (talk) 00:48, 18 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
So here's where I'm at right now. Functional, but the aesthetic aspect of having both text fields in different styles is a bit jarring. Although at the same time a free-form text field wouldn't work for a banner template parameter, so... I guess that's the best compromise? Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 00:02, 18 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to me. I2Overcome talk 01:58, 18 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging @Novem Linguae for input. I'm also trying a shorter version with simply a link to the talk page like for {{Expert needed}}, I'll put that in the PR first as it's more consistent with what is already being done. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 02:01, 18 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Any way to do speedy category things with Twinkle?

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I mainly participate in RfD and MfD, but recently wanted to speedy rename a category I created.

I literally have no clue where any of the things for that are in Twinkle. I'm pretty sure they exist, as I searched in archives, but I don't know where it would be in the menu. Also glanced at my Twinkle preferences, don't see anything I could've turned off. Yikes! Had to do it manually.

For y'all, thanks for answering my stupid questions, I always appreciate it. Not anything too serious, though. CfD/S isn't typical for my usual Wikipedia editing. 🫀 Crash // Organhaver ( it / he | talk to me, maybe? ) 02:35, 18 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

It's under XfD, you have an option for CfD/S! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 02:57, 18 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
It sure is there, wow! Thanks. I... genuinely cannot believe I didn't see that. 🫀 Crash // Organhaver ( it / he | talk to me, maybe? ) 03:00, 18 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

For blocks, stop redirecting to user talk page after?

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For blocks, stop redirecting to user talk page after? This has been proposed on GitHub and would like to make sure there's consensus. Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 10:12, 18 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Seems sensible, though I usually start doing something else or reload the page before Twinkle has the chance to redirect me anywhere. Toadspike [Talk] 15:04, 18 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

RfC: "Do Not Notify" list of users

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


A Twinkle feature to automatically ignore a local list of users during notification has been repeatedly requested, with both support and opposition. Should such a feature be implemented, and how? –LaundryPizza03 (d) 17:18, 19 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Now at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#"Do Not Notify" list of users for Twinkle. –Novem Linguae (talk) 18:42, 19 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, can twinkle's devlopers update this

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i recently changed a template called 'db-gs-notice' and that's there in twinkle standard installation. Reason for change is in my edit summary ~2026-29967-83 (talk) 08:20, 21 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]