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Promoting my talents of music

I'm an Music artist I want to upload my details on Wikipedia Vj venkat krish (talk) 17:08, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Vj venkat krish, Wikipedia is not a place for you to promote yourself. Please try Facebook, Spotify, or other social media service. Primefac (talk) 17:13, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Promotion of yourself or someone else is one of the forbidden abuses of Wikipedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:19, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

stale

@Seraphimblade, Ymblanter, and KrakatoaKatie: apologies if you've already addressed this, but could you clarify something about the RfC you closed a while back, reflected in WP:STALE? It seems to me that one line, when added to the section, confuses more than it clarifies:

For userspace drafts where notability is unlikely to be achieved, consensus is that they should not be kept indefinitely. However, the community did not arrive at a specified time duration.

This comes after

GNG does not apply to drafts.

and the results of another RfC which found that

drafts have no expiration date and thus, cannot and should not be deleted on the grounds of their age alone

It seems like these bulletpoints reflect several separate RfCs rather than separate questions from a single closure (i.e. if separate questions of an RfC yield contradictory responses, doesn't it confuse things to weigh each separately and allow them to contradict each other rather than assess the consensus of the RfC as a whole?)

Basically: according to that RfC, was there consensus regarding what, if any, conditions must be met in order for it to be appropriate to nominate for deletion a user's sandbox or other userspace draft on the basis of notability and/or age of the draft (and/or degree of the draft's completion and/or writing quality and/or sourcing, etc., beyond what is already covered by CSD)? If this has already been hashed out, could someone point me to that thread? — Rhododendrites talk \\ 20:55, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

There were two RFCs closed by us at the same time because they were somewhat but not quite redundant to each other, and they’re linked in our closing statement IIRC (I’m on my iPad and it’s difficult for me to look). At the time, drafts were being nominated for CSD based on the GNG, no matter their age or potential for development, and the consensus was clear that we shouldn’t be applying the GNG to drafts in order to give some time for that development. How long that should be was supposed to be decided separately. I thought we were thorough in addressing the questions discussed. As to follow up RFCs, I don’t know the answers, because I tend to only close in areas where I don’t follow the regular discussions that closely. Katietalk 22:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Does this mean that someone can expect userspace pages, that were deleted at MfD, as stale drafts, to be restored upon request? Geo Swan (talk) 07:16, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Can we please dispense with the word “stale”. It is wildly used with various definitions. Some use it to mean anything old. Or old and unedited for a long time. Or only if the author also hasn’t edited for a long time. Really, it depends on the transience of the information. Notes on the trump compaign mid 2016 are now stale, regardless of the editing activity of the author. A collection of primary sources on Julius Caesar will never be stale. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:54, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
  • I have altered the 'moving from userspace without permission' line because as it stands, it did not reflect the closing. It previously read that in order to move a draft without permission from userspace it was required that it be ready for mainspace AND the user be reasonably inactive. When the actual consensus was a)there is no consensus on if a draft that isnt ready can be moved or not, b)if it is ready, there is consensus it can be moved without permission. The whole 'user must be reasonably inactive' is not reflected in the close as gaining consensus, only that some editors thought it should be. Its certainly not reflected in the discussion to the point where its a requirement before a draft can be moved without permission. Only in death does duty end (talk) 09:39, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

FAKEARTICLE

Is there no better shortcut we can display at §User pages that look like articles? I've been watching Category:Indexed pages for the past few days after stumbling onto this tactic of bypassing WP:ACPERM for spam, and there's occasionally what looks like actual new users who've stumbled onto some tutorial that says "put the index keyword in your userspace drafts". (Or maybe my assume-good-faith-o-meter is just broken again.) Being able to point them at a guideline section that says the index keyword's inappropriate is all to the good; one that's got a big box next to it that seems to say "the article draft you just wrote is FAKE NEWS" is not. —Cryptic 09:03, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

WP:USERDRAFT? Only in death does duty end (talk) 10:32, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Already taken, with plenty of usage. WP:UART is free, I guess, though I find the comparison to UART jarring. —Cryptic 10:38, 5 July 2018 (UTC)