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Headmasters' and Headmistresses' Conference[edit]

Anyone care to comment on my proposal at Talk:Headmasters' and Headmistresses' Conference#List of schools?

Government Laboratory High School[edit]

I was wondering if, when someone from the project has a spare moment, they wouldn't mind coming over and having a look at the above article. It has a few problems with it which I've tried to rectify, but I'm still not happy with things like the Headmaster list ... and it could do with a more expert eye.(This request comes off the back of another request for help). Thanks in advance for your time and help. -LÒÓkingYourBest(Talk|Edits) 18:34, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live![edit]

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Harej (talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

School Redirects[edit] SAD, SAD, SAD

This list of "school redirects" eliminated thousands of hours of work on individual school pages, without a means of recourse. This is an outrage where as of now over 1750 school pages have been thrown away..see for yourself. These are not all STUBS. My school page had 9500 characters and was visited by many in our community. Notability is in the eye of the beholder, not some faraway editors view of what should be NOTABLE.

As the editor who redirect our school page states, "This page contains information on the reasons User:JaconaFrere will revert edits and is NOT a Wikipedia policy or guideline, but rather one user's explanation on their use of rollback." DavidPickett (talk) 07:42, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

DavidPickett, you can express yourself as angrily as you like, but it won't change policy, guidelines, or practice that has been agreed by thousands of regular Wikipedia editors. See also WP:OWN. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:12, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Listing of Administrators a violation of WP:NMCHK[edit]

Would listing principals/officials at a school be a violation of Wikipedia:Namechecking? I've also noticed in some instances where several vice administrators with no real notability are included in an infobox. Also, I think that having the several preset arguments in Template:Infobox School that lists minutiae such as "Head Custodian" doesn't help the case.--Prisencolinensinainciusol (talk) 23:28, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I agree completely. There are way more fields for names in that template than needed. John from Idegon (talk) 06:46, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Regional school unit[edit]

The usage of "Regional school unit" is under discussion, see talk:Regional school unit (Maine) -- (talk) 05:26, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Atomic Energy Central School[edit]

I came across this article by chance, and saw that it mostly relies on primary sources. So, I added a {{primary sources}} tag to it. I then noticed that it also the article also contains 9 infoboxes, one for each school it discusses. I'm not too familiar with school-related articles, but I've never multiple infoboxes used like this before in any Wikipedia article. Is this something commonly done with school-related stuff? For example, there are ten campuses (schools) in the University of California system and each of these are discussed in some detail throughout the article, but none are provided with their own infobox. In addition to it's over reliance on primary sources, the "Atomic Energy Central School" article seems to have problems such as embedded citations and quite a bit of unsourced content, but the number of infoboxes seems to be what really stands out. I am interested in hearing what others may think. Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly (talk) 01:38, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I have seen multiple infoboxes like that in articles on US school districts, but only very rare occasions. The better solution would be to make a chart to organize the information for all the schools rather than a chain of infoboxes (I've done one at Kent City School District#Facilities as an example) or just a list. Usually, multiple infoboxes is the result of non-notable schools (elementary and middle schools) getting merged into the district, diocese, or local jurisdiction (county, town, city, etc.) article and rather than organize that info, editors just left the infobox they moved from the redirected articles. In cases like the University of California, the various campuses are notable on their own, so they have larger articles and each section has a "Main article" link at the top. In this case, and at this point, there doesn't seem to be enough sources to warrant splitting all nine into separate articles, so it's just a case of organizing the info better and finding some secondary sources.
As for the content itself, the saving grace is that the article is generally not making any outstanding claims about the schools, like them being the best at something or going on about a specific program's accomplishments. Most is just a little bit of history, the grade levels at the school, and classes offered, i.e., not controversial or questionable info. Secondary school articles tend to have quite a few primary sources just because some of the finer details (like classes offered and even demographic data) aren't often covered in secondary sources. I found two embedded links (which, in the bigger picture, isn't that bad...I've seen much worse!), and one of them can be removed easily since it's also used as a citation and the other is just the Wikimap location.
Best recommendation would be to make one infobox for the system and then have a chart for all the schools combined (can even have a place for photos), and then the sections just need basic cleanup. The state of this article is very similar to a lot of school articles. Again, I've seen much worse, like articles dominated by sports or with loads of weasel words and boosterism and/or full of other uncited extraordinary claims.--JonRidinger (talk) 03:15, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for all the great suggestions JonRidinger. Your idea of a table is a good one that I think will work well. As I said though, I just stumbled across the article by chance and school articles are not really my forte. I'm not sure how much time I want to devote to improving it, so I may just copy what you did for the "Kent City School District" article and replace the infoboxes with a simple table. BTW, is Wikimap info really relevant to these types of articles? - Marchjuly (talk) 09:43, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome! Wikimap links aren't needed, especially if the coordinates are included. Even if the coordinates aren't available, the external link shouldn't be in the article, just like any "for more information, see..." statement. --JonRidinger (talk) 00:28, 25 February 2015 (UTC)