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Pulsus Group, Future Medicine and OMICS[edit]

Pulsus Group recently was acquired by OMICS and since then there ahs been a lot of activity at this article. I've undone most proposed changes (not all), but I'd appreciate some fresh eyes to see whether I'm not being unreasonably strict. Thanks! --Randykitty (talk) 14:21, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

I hope it is right forum for discussion. Pulsus Group and Future Medicine are independent publishers and different business models, we should not combine with OMICS sources . As you know OMICS Publishing Group is a negative attack article. Jessie1979 (talk) 07:36, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

I don't know about being unreasonably strict. But as the article stands, it seems unbalanced. As far as I know, Pulsus has been a respected publisher for 31 of its 32 years, but with the emphasis on its recent sale, that doesn't really come across in the article. Worse is, for example, Canadian Journal of Respiratory Therapy, where the journal is pretty much declared unconditionally predatory by association with no consideration of its well-respected history. We need some way to indicate a more balanced view without recent controversies, for which there may indeed be more sources, dominating with undue weight the whole history of the publisher or journal. --Mark viking (talk) 21:24, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 : Thank you, let me edit accordingly. Pulsus Group is 32 years old company and it has its own business model, no need to keep OMICS sources here? We can keep the acquisition sources. Similarly Future Medicine is an independent prominent publisher from UK and no need to keep OMICS sources here. Jessie1979 (talk) 07:54, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
I have several remarks about this. 1/ Yes, the recent brouhaha is recent, as opposed to 31 years of respectable history. Thing is, for all of those 32 years Pulsus has been a small and rather unremarkable company, generating no coverage that I am aware off. In contrast, the takeover by OMICS has generated a lot of coverage. So while it is reasonable to mention the company's history as a respected publisher, we need to mention the current controversy. 2/ OMICS apparently is acquiring established and respectable publishers/journals in order to gain some respectability itself. I'm not sure that WP should be an accessory to that. 3/ Please have a look at the actual edits proposed by Jessie1979, who wants to add information about Pulsus' "business model". In fact, Jessie is adding text about promises made by the CEO of OMICS that Pulsus and Andrew John will continue working as separate entities independently from OMICS. I doubt that we should lend much credibility to this as only the future can tell whether OMICS will keep their word. In fact, this statement is already partly untrue, because Andrew John has ceased functioning and its journals transferred to OMICS. In addition, the sources tell us that Pulsus' key personnel has left, so it will be up to the new owner, OMICS, to replace those people. Jessie has added the following statement to the article on the Pulsus Group: "As per present owner statement, Andrew John publishing and Pulsus are reputable publishing houses and both of them are running under Pulsus publishing now. Majority of the journals hosted by these companies are supervised by reputed medical societies, publisher has minimal role on editorial policy and practice. OMICS employees process PDF formatting,design and hosting there is no control on content and editorial practice of Pulsus Group journals. OMICS is doing this type service to some journals including 80 years old Indian Journal of Pharmaceutical Sciences, this journal content and articles belongs to "Indian Pharmaceutical Association"." Now it may be me, but this reads like a press release from OMICS and it is doubtful whether it is correct. In addition, it is partly irrelevant, because the mentioned journals have never been published by Pulsus. 4/ The info that OMICS is widely regarded as predatory is verifiable and relevant, because otherwise it is difficult to see why the takeover would be controversial.
I'll go over this again and propose an alternative wording. --Randykitty (talk) 08:47, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
Sorry I wasn't clear. I wasn't proposing that we get rid of the prose describing OMICS buyout, that is clearly a notable and important event in the history of both publisher and journal. While respected low key publishers like Pusus didn't get a lot of press before OMICS, this is a controversy precisely because (1) Pulsus was respected and OMICS is not and (2) Canadians don't like foreign entities coming in and buying up their home-grown companies. Following the sources, perhaps we should describe the Pulsus Group as a respected publisher that was bought by OMICS in 2016, causing controversy and putting the future of the journals into question. --Mark viking (talk) 10:16, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
I understood that, my answer was partly directed at Jessie. I have edited the Pulsus and Canadian Journal of Respiratory Therapy articles in the light of the above. Let me know if you think this is better. --Randykitty (talk) 11:25, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
Beall's Pulsus inclusion was happened on 13 September 2016 (as per his blog), Canadian scientific controversy happened at end of September. I hope it was ordered properly at history page, no need to include in lead section. I am removing at lead. Jessie1979 (talk) 17:19, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
Nice improvements, Randykitty. I think your new prose in both of the articles more accurately captures the history and addresses my main concern. Thanks, --Mark viking (talk) 17:43, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Discussion: Journal citation with templates should be preferred[edit]

Please see Wikipedia talk:Citing sources#Journal citation with templates should be preferred for a discussion on modifying the provisions of Wikipedia:Citing sources, specifically section WP:CITEHOW, to allow and encourage journal citations using citation templates even if an article already uses a consistent system without templates. —Anomalocaris (talk) 07:51, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

RFCs on citations templates and the flagging free-to-read sources[edit]

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Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 16:49, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages[edit]

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Explore: The Journal of Science & Healing[edit]

There has been some edit warring going on at Explore: The Journal of Science & Healing regarding how the journal and its editors should be described. Additional eyes over there would be appreciated. Everymorning (talk) 15:40, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

MFD Discussion for WP:NJOURNALS[edit]

FYI, participants in this WikiProject may be interested in the ongoing MFD discussion for WP:NJOURNALS, which can be found at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Notability (academic journals). Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 19:13, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Ufahamu and Physics Essays[edit]

Both of these articles could use some extra eyes. Be warned that the discussion at Ufahamu is especially acrimonious. --Randykitty (talk) 10:29, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Notability (academic journals)[edit]

There are lots of discussion concerning WP:NJOURNALS, including proposed changes to it, many of which would substantially change the longstanding wording. Please comment there. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 21:15, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Urgent: Beall's list[edit]

Jeffrey Beall's blog about predatory publishing has disappeared in its entirety. According to this, this is due to a decision by Beall himself, not hacking or such. Our problem is that posts on Beall's blog (http://scholarlyoa.com/), especially his lists of predatory journals, publishers, and impact ranking services (but also individual blog posts), are the main sources (sometimes the only ones) that provide criticism in our articles on some of these predatory publishers/journals. All those links are currently dead (and in the past two days, some editors already started removing them!) I would expect that most content can still be found on the WayBack machine, so it is urgent that all these references get rescued by adding archive-url parameters to them. I'm up till my ears in work in RL, so all help is welcome! Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 09:29, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Oh dear. That's not good. I've checked WayBack and it seems to have a good archive of the site. In any case, no one should be removing dead references without replacing them, so that sort of behaviour should be reverted. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:02, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
I'll take this to WP:BOTREQ. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 00:29, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

WikiJournal of Medicine promotion[edit]

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The WikiJournal of Medicine is a free, peer reviewed academic journal which aims to provide a new mechanism for ensuring the accuracy of Wikipedia's biomedical content. We started it as a way of bridging the Wikipedia-academic gap.[1] It is also part of a WikiJournal User Group with other WikiJournals under development.[2] The journal is still starting out and not yet well known, so we are advertising ourselves to WikiProjects that might be interested.

Engaging Wikipedians

  • Original articles on topics that don't yet have a Wikipedia page, or only a stub/start
  • Wikipedia articles that you are willing to see through external peer review (either solo or as in a group, process analagous to GA / FA review)
  • Image articles, based around an important medical image or summary diagram

Engaging non-Wikipedians

We hope that an academic journal format may also encourage non-Wikipedians to contribute who would otherwise not. Therefore, please consider:

  • Printing off the advertisement poster an distribute in tearooms & noticeboards at your place of work
  • Emailing around the pdf through contact networks or mailing lists (suggested wording)

If you want to know more, we recently published an editorial describing how the journal developed.[3] Alternatively, check out the journal's About or Discussion pages.

  1. ^ Masukume, G; Kipersztok, L; Das, D; Shafee, T; Laurent, M; Heilman, J (November 2016). "Medical journals and Wikipedia: a global health matter". The Lancet Global Health. 4 (11): e791. doi:10.1016/S2214-109X(16)30254-6. 
  2. ^ "Wikiversity Journal: A new user group". The Signpost. 2016-06-15. 
  3. ^ Shafee, T; Das, D; Masukume, G; Häggström, M. "WikiJournal of Medicine, the first Wikipedia-integrated academic journal". WikiJournal of Medicine. 4. doi:10.15347/wjm/2017.001. 
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Additionally, the WikiJournal of Science is just starting up under a similar model and looking for contributors. Firstly it is seeking editors to guide submissions through external academic peer review and format accepted articles. It is also encouraging submission of articles in the same format as Wiki.J.Med. If you're interested, please come and discuss the project on the journal's talk page, or the general discussion page for the WikiJournal User group.
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WP:JCW and categorization of articles and links[edit]

I've had an idea for WP:JCW and facilitate our work. Please comment there. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 23:23, 18 February 2017 (UTC)