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Category: Incomplete Cathedrals?[edit]

I was reading the Beauvais Cathedral article and when I finished it I checked the category listing as I was sure I had read about another cathedral in France where construction had stopped partway and never been resumed however this does not appear to have been made a category.

Does this sound like a good idea? 58.7.151.70 (talk) 07:34, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Probably not. Most medieval cathedrals were never completed as initially planned, and were constantly modified and extended for centuries. --ELEKHHT 01:32, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

The Tower House[edit]

This article has recently been promoted to FA which prompts a couple of questions. Firstly, how do I get it into the Assessment Table? Secondly, what should its Importance rating be? I've rated it High, as I think it is a "Very important building (by a very important) architect." Its own importance is evidenced by its Grade I listed building status. The importance of its architect, William Burges, is evidenced by the High Importance rating he already has on the Architecture Portal scale. That said, I would be interested in other views as I can be rather partial when it comes to Billy Burges and I may be overstating its importance in the wider context. KJP1 (talk) 07:16, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

As long the article has a WikiProject Architecture tag on its talk page, it will be added automatically to the Assessment Table by Bot 1.0 that updates daily - which has already happened. With importance ratings the main problem is that we do not have a detailed enough criteria (see discussion here). Regarding The Tower House, my sense is that while in the context of English or broader Western architecture one might be able to argue that is high importance, from a global perspective I would rather rate it mid-importance. However, in the absence of detailed guidelines, this is subject to reaching consensus. --ELEKHHT 00:53, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Many thanks for the response. I entirely take the point re. Importance; when viewed in a global context across the whole of history, the Tower House may well be better rated as Mid Importance. That said, the absence of detailed criteria does create a problem for consistency. To take a few, very Anglo-centric examples, Belton House, Holkham Hall and Little Moreton Hall are all rated Mid Importance whilst Bramall Hall is rated High Importance. I'd struggle to justify that, either in terms of architectural merit or historical significance. Perhaps Bramall and the Tower House are rated too highly. Let's see if we get any other views. If we don't, I'll take our two views as consensus and change the Tower to Mid importance. Regards. KJP1 (talk) 06:11, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

looking for english term[edit]

how do you call this "stripe style"?

hello, i'm looking for the english term for d:Q1018991 = de:Bänderung (Architektur) and nl:Band (bouwkundig). translation tools suggest "banding" or "facade banding", but there are only a few pages using these terms. i want to create a new Commons category for this and therefore need a correct english term (if existing, or possible). Please notice that buildings with dominant horizontal stripes are typical for various regions in several countries; they do not have a specific architectural style in common. Holger1959 (talk) 00:16, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Very good question. Here's a recent paper arguing that there is a lack of precise terminology in English to describe such architectural design features. The paper argues that "striped facade/architecture" would be the better term when the bands form a repetitive pattern. Google books shows current usage of the term. Note that there is some inconsistency between the already linked articles: the Dutch wiki article refers to a single band as opposed to the German wiki article that refers to a pattern of repetitive bands. --ELEKHHT 01:26, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
ELEKHH: danke! The paper is really helpful and gave me an impression how complicated architectural terminology is. Do you think it makes sense to differenciate between horizontally and vertically striped buildings? i only had horizontally examples in my mind when asking, but i have also seen vertically ones (but not so often). Holger1959 (talk) 08:21, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
I wouldn't add horizontal/vertical to the name to keep it short and avoid over-categorization. Both the above reference and the German wiki article seem to assume that striped facade/Bänderung are generally horizontal. I also cannot think of examples that would be vertically striped. --ELEKHHT 10:45, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Are you looking for Ablaq? AmateurEditor (talk) 23:06, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
AmateurEditor: thank you very much for this link! i didn't know the term before; an interesting article. Because Ablaq and c:Category:Ablaq are specifically about the arabic/islamic architecture – and, if i understand correct, only about stone work and light/dark colored rows, but also about interior walls or decorations of buildings – this would make a good subcategory for a more general "Category:Stripes in architecture" (which may also include, for example, painted stripes on eg. wooden buildings, or "raised stripes"/uneven facades, and as well building exteriors and interiors).
ELEKHH: thank you, again! What do you think about "Category:Stripes in architecture" as a new "catch-all" category, with "Category:Striped facades" and "Category:Ablaq" as first subcategories? Holger1959 (talk) 09:39, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
now see c:Category:Stripes in architecture and subcategories, additions and improvements welcome. Holger1959 (talk) 05:35, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Stale AfC submission[edit]

Could you have a look at Draft:Garrison-Wills House? Much appreciated, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 18:20, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm also requesting that you take a look. What are the requirements for having an article about an historic era house on Wikipedia? This article was written under Articles for Creation as a Draft, and turned down because the only references were deeds, etc. It was written in May 2014 along with several other articles about historic houses in the list in the Mauricetown, New Jersey article. They were all written by different editors, perhaps as an historical society project. The other articles are in mainspace, but are also using deeds and census records as references for the houses. Thank you for looking at this. StarryGrandma (talk) 20:43, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

GA review request[edit]

Hi, can anyone please review Lahore Fort GA review? It will add another GA to this project. RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 11:41, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

looking for those interested in our project[edit]

greetings.

my name is lori brown (usa) and with justine clark (australia) and eleanor chapman (germany), we have applied for a grant to write more women architects and designers into wikipedia. we welcome comments and support for our project. in our own countries, hosted wiki writing parties on march 8, international women's day, as a way to begin these efforts. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/More_Female_Architects_on_Wikipedia we look forward to hearing from you. Loriannbrown (talk) 20:50, 20 April 2015 (UTC)loriannbrown

Well done, it sounds like a laudable initiative! There was lots of activity on this subject area a couple of years ago, for example I created a List of women architects and Ipigott created a Women in architecture article. The intention of the former was to help identify significant women architects and create more articles (we've written several since, including one on the first known woman architect).
There are obviously hurdles to overcome, as you've discovered. For example the subjects need to meet Wikpedia's 'notability' criteria (i.e. WP:GNG or WP:CREATIVE). Though some people will argue that any woman that has broken into the male dominated world of architecture is notable, Wikipedia needs to see reliable, independent, published proof of this claim. And I think too that articles about women attract a lot more scrutiny (and sometimes scepticism) from the largely male pool of Wikipedia editors.
You might want to raise your heads at WikiProject Women artists too. There has been discussion about whether to include architects in the scope of that project, but the idea hasn't gained great support (certainly modern architects share a significant crossover with design, planning, construction and engineering etc.). Good luck! Sionk (talk) 21:17, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

many thanks! will do right now. Loriannbrown (talk) 23:26, 20 April 2015 (UTC)loriannbrown

I fully support your intention to extend work on women architects and designers. You should certainly bring your ideas to the attention of Gobonobo, Rosiestep and others at WikiProject Women's History. I noticed that there were at least 30 new biographies on women architects during March 2015 in connection with Women's History Month - see Wikipedia:WikiWomen's_History_Month/2015/Outcomes but I also saw many others that were deleted within a day or two as they did not contain sufficient sources or evidence of notability. Maybe your efforts were behind some of these. I seem to remember there were quite a number of biographies of Australian women architects, some of which looked like individuals wishing to advertise their services. I hope your initiative will help to avoid such problems which can be upsetting for the editors involved until they gain more experience. As you probably know, the User:Gobonobo/Gender_Gap_red_list already contains a number of red links on architects and designers. I am also aware of a huge number of biographies in other languages, especially in French, German and the Scandinavian languages which deserve coverage in the English wiki. See for example fr:Liste de femmes architectes and women's names in category lists such as da:Kategori:Påbegyndte_biografier_om_arkitekter. As I have just spent two or three months on extending coverage of women writers, I have decided to turn to other areas of interest over the next few months. I do however intend to concentrate on biographies of women artists from January 2016 in connection with next year's Women's History Month and would be happy to include architects too. Just let me know if you need any specific help with translation, etc. Good luck.--Ipigott (talk) 06:57, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

thank you for your insights and will keep you posted as things progress. best.128.230.139.60 (talk) 20:52, 24 April 2015 (UTC)loriannbrown

I strongly suggest that you Lori and the other three contributors to the project listed on your Wikimedia project page should write up user profiles on the user pages on Wikipedia (and possibly also on Wikimedia). (I believe two of you still need to become registered users.) As far as I can see only two of you have made any contributions to Wikipedia articles. Although three of you have included summary background information on your (highly relevant) professional experience on your project page, I have not been able to find any information on user:Wisible or on the people listed as your advisors. If you need help with this, please let me know.--Ipigott (talk) 15:14, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

John Pawson page re-write[edit]

Hello, I am writing from the office of British architectural designer John Pawson. We have recently made the mistake of updating a few details on Mr Pawson’s Wikipedia entry — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pawson — and have subsequently noticed that an alert now appears concerning a major contributor to the article appearing to have a close connection with its subject. We clearly admit our error and understand completely that Wikipedia policy is that articles must be written from a neutral point of view and should not be authored by the subject. Would anyone be able to review the page and re-write within the wiki guidelines? John Pawson (talk) 11:37, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

The best approach would be if you suggest any improvements of additions (properly sourced) via the article's Talk page. Clearly the large chunk of material about Pawson was a direct copy-paste, or a close paraphrase of his background info on his website. Wikipedia prefers objective sources such as books, news or magazine articles (sources with editorial oversight). You also need to be wary of uploading images under a free licence when they are, in fact, copyrighted to someone else. Sionk (talk) 10:41, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

AfC submission[edit]

Could I get a look here? Draft:Lyles, Bissett, Carlisle, and Wolff. Thanks! FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 21:45, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

William Tress[edit]

I've got the Hastings Line article at FAC at the moment. Whilst it won't affect the article, William Tress is currently a redlink. Anyone willing to turn it blue? Mjroots (talk) 20:46, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Townships[edit]

Just added this wikiproject on a number of talk pages such as Category talk:Townships, Talk:Sai Baba Boulevard, Category talk:Former townships. Kindly check if it was correct. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 07:56, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

I think our daughter/sister WikiProject Urban studies and planning would be a better fit. --ELEKHHT 12:34, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

looking for English term for roof strutures[edit]

Hello, i'm looking for the English term for the roof structures pictured, (please view commons:Category:Avenida dos Aliados). In Portuguese people call them: lanternim (roof lantern?); cúpula (cupola?); coruchéu (spire?); domo (dome?). I'm not sure what the best generic term to apply, if there is one.

Thank you. --JotaCartas (talk) 02:32, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Château de Coulans[edit]

Hello. I have created a stub about the Château de Coulans. I would greatly appreciate it if some of you could expand it with in-line references. Also, if someone can add a map to the infobox (which I don't know how to do). Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:27, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Masjid al-Haram listed at Requested moves[edit]

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A requested move discussion has been initiated for Masjid al-Haram to be moved to Sacred Mosque. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 22:32, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Art Pavilion in Zagreb listed at Requested moves[edit]

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Haus der Religionen listed at Requested moves[edit]

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Let's merge slum and shantytown[edit]

See my rationale at Talk:Slum#Merge_with_shanty_town. As nearly two weeks have gone without anyone comment, I'd appreciate if members of this project (for which those articles are in scope) would take a look at this. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:24, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Fremantle Prison FAC discussion[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Fremantle Prison/archive3. Thanks. Evad37 [talk] 15:08, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Copyright Violation Detection - EranBot Project[edit]

A new copy-paste detection bot is now in general use on English Wikipedia. Come check it out at the EranBot reporting page. This bot utilizes the Turnitin software (ithenticate), unlike User:CorenSearchBot that relies on a web search API from Yahoo. It checks individual edits rather than just new articles. Please take 15 seconds to visit the EranBot reporting page and check a few of the flagged concerns. Comments welcome regarding potential improvements. These likely copyright violations can be searched by WikiProject categories. Use "control-f" to jump to your area of interest (if such a copyvio is present). --Lucas559 (talk) 15:31, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

GT nom English Heritage properties in Somerset and FT nom Scheduled monuments in Somerset[edit]

Would anyone be willing to review a couple of nominations which are relevant to this project? I nominated English Heritage properties in Somerset as a good topic back in April and it has only received 2 comments, while Scheduled monuments in Somerset has been almost a month without any comments on its featured topic nomination. Any comments would be very welcome.— Rod talk 20:07, 2 July 2015 (UTC)