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B'wa Kell Page[edit]

Under members Opal Koboi and cudegeon are listed though they were not members, they just helped the B'wa Kell. Scalene etc should be there. ISomeone should change it. Caontact me a — Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

First of all, always sign your posts, regardless of whether or not you have an account. No one is going to email you. Sign your posts with 4 ~ marks.

Second of all, why don't you do it? You're the first person apart from me to post on this page for over a month. That means I'm kinda busy. I might get round to this, but if you spot an error, fix it yourself. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 09:20, 28 May 2007 (UTC)


Does a Neutrino 3000 page need to be written because there is a general page for the Neutrino series? Jhfireboy I'm listening 18:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


Hello! My name is Dreamafter! I, not to brag, know almost everything about Artemis Fowl. So I propose that with only 23 Wikipedians in this project that, we need to have a system of order. We need a leader, to overrule unjust decisions, a 2IC(second in-command) to have that power, for quick easy decisions (but with that power the leader could overrule them), and so forth. I would gladly like to nominate myself and 007bond for the two higher positions as we both want to see this Wikiproject grow to be the biggest in all of Wikipedia! Dreamy 20:18, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I think that your idea is a great idea. Would you mind explaining the co-ordinator table on the main page? -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 22:27, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Sure! Okay, so it is as follows, those people that are lead coordinators, i.e. you and me, have full power in this project. And those people that are only coordinators, have a lot of power, but can be overruled by you or me. This is so that if we come to a dispute, we can get over it much more quickly than having to vote on it. Dreamy 02:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
P.S.:We need a vote, among the coordinators and lead coordinators for the head of the lead coordinators, so that if we disagree, one of us has the power to overrule the other, and if it turns out that the head was wrong, it is reverted and the 2IC(second in command) changes it to what there idea was. Dreamy 02:53, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
P.P.S.:The vote is here Dreamy 02:54, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
That page doesn't exist. Considering that we only appear to have 3-4 active members, why don't we just hold it here? I'd vote for you, seeing as you were hear first. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 06:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Okay. Well, I made, but you're right. And I thank you for your support. Dreamy 20:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey guys, I noticed that there are a bunch of people in the coordinators box, and was wondering if any them were actually voted into there (other than codingmasters and dreamafter)? Many of the people listed as "participants" have done nothing on this project for months. We need to get rid of all those people on the list who have simply started ignoring this project. Perhaps post a new section on this talk page named "participants" and with text, "if you truthfully want to be an active member of this WikiProject, sign your name below", wait a week, then see who responds. What do you think? Laptopdude 22:36, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I tried to do that a couple of weeks ago now, and was shot down by several people on the list who claimed that it wasn't my right to simply remove people from a WikiProject, even if they had done jack all for months. So yeah, I agree with you laptopdude. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 06:46, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Hhmmmm..... I see their point. Ok, how about we make a list called "Active users", following the same talk page response process? Move users who have edited Artemis Fowl articles in the past two weeks to the active list from the standard list. Laptopdude 20:08, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I preferred the one month idea before you changed it. I was thinking though, in stead of having an active list, let's have an inactive list in stead. This will make it clear that these users aren't doing anything, in stead of the users in the active list appear to be doing something, reguarly or not. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 10:46, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, 1 month and "Inactive" it is. However, is there any way to make it so that only certain people (i.e. you, dreamafter, etc.) can edit that list? Having other people take themselves off it would defeat the purpose. Laptopdude 21:08, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

No, there isn't unfortunately. However, odds are, if people want to put their name back into the active list, they're coming back into active status anyway. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 00:12, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

So, should we do it? Laptopdude 03:30, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, go ahead. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 13:23, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, I found some spare time and did this. I used the Special Contributions page to skim through each user's list of recent edits, and if they hadn't made an AF related edit in 30 days, they were placed into the inactive list.

Something that should be noted is that two of our coordinators are now in the Inactive List. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 22:57, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Well I gotta say Dreamy, that was extremely quick! ALthough I must say, I think you should notify the two new coordinators that they are coordinators. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 23:30, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I think that it's kind of odd that all active participants except one (me) are in the coordinators box. Maybe we should have a lead coordinator and a coordinator and that's it? Laptopdude 03:34, 26 June 2007 (UTC)


How do we know when to remove the stub tags from articles? I recently redid Time-Stop (Artemis Fowl), and that is where this question arose from.

Also, I think there should be some system so that members can alert other members when they would like an article checked, or help on that article, without posting on this general discussion page. I think that adding some text after the article names on List of Articles would be perfect. Everyone could check there periodically and see if any users need any help and discuss it on that article's discussion page rather than this main one. Laptopdude 21:22, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

This is what this talk page is designed for. The participants of the WikiProject to talk about the pages in the project. If you would like a page reviewed by another user in the project, by all means post here about it and we'll go and take a look! -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 22:27, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I went and looked at the Time Stop article. Nice work there. I removed the stub tag because it was definitely big enough to warrant it being removed. That doesn't mean there isn't always an ongoing need for improvement though! -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 22:30, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I'll be sure to check back here as often as I can. Laptopdude 22:49, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

todo template[edit]

I just discovered the To do template. I liked the look of it, and thought that we should implement it on all the pages covered by this wikiproject. What do you guys say? -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 07:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Looks like a great idea! Laptopdude 22:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Once again, just waiting on dreamafter's thoughts, then i'll hop too it. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 06:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Still waiting for a reply here too dreamafter. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 06:46, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Same comment as above. Dreamy 01:24, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Gotcha. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 13:23, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

minor characters[edit]

I think we need to create a page about minor characters in the series, such as Bruno the Cheese, Carla Frazetti, etc. What do you guys think? -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 00:19, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Laptopdude 00:42, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Well let's compile a list of minor characters that we can think of. Just add more to the list when you think of them. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 01:24, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Carla Frazetti
  • Bruno the Cheese
  • Pecs and Chips
  • Lieutenant Nyle
  • Eric Lee
  • Mikhael Vassikin
  • Kamar
  • Lyubkhin
  • Britva
  • Doctor Po
  • Luc Carrére
  • Maggie V
  • Art
  • General Sputa

Who is Lieutenant Nyle? -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 13:23, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Eric Lee is Jonah Lee's (or Billy Kong) older brother. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 07:07, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Lieutenant Nyle is the goblin in the second book that takes out his fellow goblin to become a promoted goblin. he is very minor. Eric Lee is not the one that we want. Dreamy 16:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I removed the wikilinks. That's not the idea. The idea is to compile a list of minor characters in the book, and create a single page on all of them. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 19:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh. Okay. Got it. Dreamy 03:05, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

protection for the Artemis Fowl (film) page[edit]

This article is being constantly trashed. I have requested semi-page protection. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 13:26, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

This does not appear to have happened. Where do I go from here? -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 07:02, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

new articles[edit]

I found several new articles just now:

I have nominated Police Plaza because it is a bad duplicate of Police Plaza (Artemis Fowl).

The other articles deperately need to be refined or they could be deleted too. I have added them to my list of articles for ease of finding. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 08:22, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Note: I did not add Police Plaza to the article list. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 08:25, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Somebody just created this page as well, so I've added this to the list. It needs improving too.

Artemis Fowl: The Graphic Novel

-007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 08:32, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I threw in all the information I could find, which isn't much. Here's all we know:

  • it is a graphic novel based on the first book of the Artemis Fowl series
  • Eion Colfer wrote the book
  • artwork was done by Giovanni Rigano
  • it is coming out 2/10/07

That's all I wrote. It's hard to make a good article with such little information. --Wack'd Talk to me!Admire my handiwork! 20:56, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

That's OK, and I fully understand that, and thank you for starting the article. However, that little bit of information still needs to be sourced. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 21:39, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


I just found a very interesting shortcut. T:WPAF redirects to {{WP Artemis Fowl todo}}. Just thought you guys should know, and to let you know that I think we should be on the lookout for more shortcuts like this that old members may have set up. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 22:34, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

template advice thingy[edit]

Should we remove this "advice", clean it up, or just leave it? Personally, I think it shouldn't be there, because I don't believe in using the substitute thing. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 06:42, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Can you please elaborate? I have no idea what you're talking about. Dreamy 13:58, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

My bad. On the wikiproject page, in the templates section, somebody added a bit of "advice", telling people to use the substitute thing in stead of putting the template into their user page. Do you think we should remove this or not? -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 06:38, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. I have removed it. Dreamy 16:13, 26 June 2007 (UTC)


I just redid Iriscam. Anyone want to look it over? Laptopdude 16:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Wow! Great job! You set it up, exactly the way we want it! Congrats! Dreamy 17:44, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Ditto, that's a brilliant re-work. I never thought anyone could write that much about it lol! Make sure you check that it's no longer on the todo template that's on the main page of the wikiproject. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 06:55, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! Laptopdude 02:41, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Artemis Fowl (film)[edit]

What are we going to do with this article? I think it needs to have all unsourced facts removed. That basically means just getting rid of the list of "supposed" actors. It's getting annoying for me to constantly have to revert edits by people who just put their favourite actor in, and if we just remove the list of actors, people are hopefully gonna stop doing it. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 21:48, 29 June 2007

I really don't know. If we remove the actors bit, then the article is less than half of what it was, and if we don't, than more reverting. What do you think Coordinators? Dreamy 22:39, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

shortcut to the talk page[edit]

I think it would be handy to have a shortcut to this talk page like we have 3 for the main page. Unfortunately, I've got no idea how to make them. Can someone else do it? -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 23:18, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I've done it. It is now [[WT:AF]], the "T" for "talk". Dreamy \*/!$! 14:05, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

going away[edit]

Just so you know why I'm not responding over the next week, it's because i'm on holiday. See ya on the 14th. -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 22:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I also will be away for a little while, and if anyone wants to know why, just check out my page. Dreamy \*/!$! 22:20, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
P.S.:While we are away, any queries should be directed to, Jhfireboy, or Laptopdude. Dreamy \*/!$! 22:21, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I've been away for a while and just got back. It's kind of funny how everyone leaves at once. Laptopdude 22:07, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Well I am now back from my holiday and am reporting for duty! :) -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 23:22, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm gonna be gone for another week. Laptopdude 04:09, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I am back now. Dreamy \*/!$! 18:24, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I just got back. Laptopdude 21:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


I just redid retimager. What does everyone think? Laptopdude 23:08, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I like it. Nice work. Would you be able to add it to the list of articles page please? -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 11:39, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

OK Laptopdude 23:43, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Mind wipe[edit]

I noticed that we need an article on mind wiping, and had a question about the articles name. Unfortunately, there does not seem to be a dominant grammatically correct spelling. Colfer uses "mindwipe", "mind wipe", and "mind-wipe" throughout the books. Any suggestions? Laptopdude 23:17, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Use the term last used in any of the books. Ie. if "mindwipe" is used in Book 1 and "mind-wipe" in book 2, use "mind-wipe". -007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 11:39, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

OK Laptopdude 23:43, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


I just went over everyone's contribs again, and made a table. I discovered that Tetty2 (talk · contribs) hasn't done anything on the WikiProject in almost 2 months. I'm going to move him to the inactive list. However, and I'd like everyone's opinions on this, I think there are more helpful things I could be doing for the Wikiproject than looking at user's contribs, so I'm only gonna do this once a month. Laptopdude 02:27, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Couldn't we get a small bot to do this? Dreamy \*/!$! 02:05, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Working on this. Dreamy \*/!$! 18:15, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
That would be great. Laptopdude 21:25, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Jhfireboy (talk · contribs) has not edited the WP in 45 days and Munkee madness (talk · contribs) has not edited it in 43 days. I have moved them to the inactive list and removed them from the coordinators table. Laptopdude 21:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Possible source?[edit]

Hey guys, have you seen this? [1] It might be useful if you want to go for GA. -Malkinann 00:58, 4 August 2007 (UTC)


Guys, every active person is dubbed at least a coordinator. I really think that this whole command thing is unnecessary. It really hasn't done anything or helped in any way. The point of WikiProjects is for teamwork to help improve Wikipedia. I really don't see a need for ranks. Besides, one single person (or two) should not be able to overrule everyone else. In order for something to be done, there needs to be mutual consent. I think we should get rid of the ranks. Laptopdude 21:47, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

And risk everything going down into mould? I agree however, that there should be no such ranks, but I'm quite sure 4 of us who actually look after and try to improve the Artemis Fowl articles are actually people who do not give POV or opinions. By the way, there is only 4 of us in this Active part of the Project.--Hanaichi 06:22, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
I happen to agree with both of you. However, we need some form of order, and though all of the active people are coords, we just need more active people. If we could get more people than the system would work. If after one month, not many people are moved to the active list, than the system will be highly down-graded. Dreamy \*/!$! 21:42, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree that if there were more active users the whole ranking thing would be more appropriate and helpful. That brings us to another topic. Getting more participants. Do you think it would be a good idea to post a message on the talk pages on all the inactive users' talk pages, asking them to become active again? Laptopdude 00:20, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I do. I shall attempt to do it, right now. Dreamy \*/!$! 02:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I don't have the time now, if someone else could do it that would be great. Dreamy \*/!$! 02:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, looking back, I agree with Laptopdude, we only really need a coordinator and a lead-coordinator. And as such, I would like to step down, quickly before anyone sees!, and put 007bond, to the lead-coordinator spot, and put Laptopdude, in the coordinator spot. Dreamy \*/!$! 00:15, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you very much! I most definitely agree (since you stepped down) that 007bond should be the lead. I am happy to accept coordinator, of course. And I hope this doesn't change how anyone contributes, because we still need all the help we can get. Laptopdude 16:02, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Too many articles.[edit]

Well I think there are too many articles. Non notable articles should be merged into a single article. Such as a List of Artemis Fowl characters or something. Read WP:FICT for more information.--Hanaichi 04:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I have created this character page, in my drafts sub-page. Please take a look at it. Dreamy \*/!$! 15:29, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Returning Editors[edit]

This section is for inactive editors to post to if they wish to return to the WikiProject. Please do not post here unless you are an inactive editor who wishes to return to the WikiProject. Laptopdude 16:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

  1. Jhfireboy (talk · contribs · count) - I'm returning.
  2. Makatota (talk · contribs · count) Me be returning too
  3. Quentin Smith (talk · contribs · count) hi!
  4. jlao04 (talk · contribs · count)
  5. Aerodotus (talk · contribs · count) - I'm willing to contribute.

Re:Returning editors[edit]

Well, we don't have to many returning editors, I think we need to do something. — Dreamy */!$! 00:12, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Like?--Hanaichi 03:48, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't know... I was kind of hoping that you guys would know... Dreamy \*/!$! 12:36, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Lol, this should have started out as a work group first. Maybe we could try inviting people to join us, let say for example, people who likes magic themed + action adventure books.--Hanaichi 00:46, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Not enough time[edit]

As you guys might of noticed over the past 5 weeks, I have been extremely inactive on here in editing Artemis Fowl articles. This is because once term started again (I'm an Australian, our terms are very different to those in the northern hemisphere) I just became too busy with everything happening, from music lessons to scouts to homework. So, I've decided to leave this WikiProject and put myself on the inactive users list. I probably will return around Christmas, but at the moment, I'm just far too busy to be a worthwhile leader.

See ya round!

-007bond aka Matthew G aka codingmasters 05:27, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

All right, I have changed the coordinator table, so that now Laptopdude is the Lead Coordinator (Stand in). I hope that that is alright... Dreamy \*/!$! 12:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Perfectly fine, and a good idea adding your name as well. Laptopdude 20:21, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Although, I have just started school as well, and may be less and less available. I will still try to edit whenever I can, but don't be surprised if I go for like a week without edits. Laptopdude 04:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. I am starting my second and third degree's with RMC and Queens college. Dreamy \*/!$! 19:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


Two things:

Over time I've noticed many inconsistancies in the spelling of this word among fans, and I'm fairly certain there are inconsistancies in the books. (and no, I can't check this myself, because I don't own the books, and I'm not near a library. I do have extensive familiarity of them, however)
Also, in the FF, does it ever state that mesmerizing another fairy is forbidden in The Booke? And if so, it doesn't result in a loss of powers, as entering a human dwelling does, does it? Or is that a plot hole?
I apologize for bothering you all about this... I wish I could remember them better. Unfortunately, I can't, so I'll have to rely on other people to check the books. justice 02:06, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, in response to your to questions:
    1. It is spelled "mesmer".
    2. It doesn't state that mesmerizing another fairy is forbidden by The Book, it states that it is against "The Atlantis Convention", and I'm pretty sure that a fairy won't lose their powers from that. Your Grace Lord Sir Dreamy of Buckland tm 21:02, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

This page[edit]

I have created a new version of the Main Page for us, this. If I get no comments/criticsm in five days after 22:24, 5 November 2007 (UTC), I will move it onto our front page. Dreamy § 22:24, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Overall, I think that looks great and that it'd be a good idea to use it as the new Main Page.
But I have to say that the colour scheme gives me a headache... Red and green? Ouch. Could we maybe change that, perhaps to variations of a single shade - e.g. greys (least likely to offend), golden-browns (like the first book), blues (like the republished first book) or reds (like the graphic novel, which you've put in this design)?
Oh, and also, I think the "WP:AF directs here..." and "This is a WikiProject..." bits look kind of squashed in there: maybe they'd look better in a separate box that spans the whole width, or outside the boxes at the top of the page?
Just a few minor nitpicks, otherwise I'm all for it. KittyRainbow 23:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
How is it now? Dreamy § 01:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I think it works better with the top box like that. =) (Although, maybe the disambiguation links should be in that box too - if someone's come to the wrong place, that's the first thing they're going to want to know.)
I'm still not sure about the colours though - I think at the moment it's got way too many in it. We need to make sure we're not going to alienate prospective participants by having a layout that gives them brainache or is difficult to read. I've made a few variations of the layout with different colour schemes: grey, gold, blue, red. What do you all think? KittyRainbow 12:58, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Lets go with this page, as it is. Dreamy § 15:08, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

It has been done. Dreamy § 22:53, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Ahem...Graphic Novel Book Image[edit]

Errmm just to point out, we aren't allowed to have non free images (in this case, the graphic novel cover) on the project page..... --Hanaichi 06:21, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

It was changed. Dreamy § 22:01, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
That one isn't exactly free either. You kinda just cropped the image of the demon from a non free copyright image, and put free images around it...What is free is the image of the gold bars...--Hanaichi 01:05, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Technically I created it, and released it into the public domain. Dreamy § 01:09, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Just to jump in here... You can't release the Capture Ess AF image into the public domain, because the picture of the demon isn't yours, whether you cropped it or not. (If that's the one you're talking about here. If you meant the other one, never mind.) And if that's not a free image, are we technically allowed to use it in our barnstar and invitation templates? Hmm. We might need a different one then...
If y'all want me to, I could probably knock something up for us quite quickly. I've done fanarty things before; it wouldn't take me that long to make some computer-drawn image that was vaguely related to the series. (And, I guess, not much more than vaguely, because again - copyright concerns.)
-- KittyRainbow 02:03, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
PS: Are the books circling it supposed to be backwards? LOL. I didn't even notice that until just now. XD;

(unindent)Yes they are supposed to be backwards, and I will create a new image. I will put a placeholder in for now. Dreamy § 02:16, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind... You can create on, if you like. <DREAMAFTER><TALK> 21:16, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Collaboration of the Month[edit]

I think that we need to have an "Article Collaboration of the Month". What do all of you think? Dreamy § 21:29, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

So we pick an article from here, and do our best to work on it. Dreamy § 21:30, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Minor Artemis Fowl Characters[edit]

It has been mentioned that there should be a section on Council members, like Cahartez, and Lope. What do you people think? Lord Dreamy § 02:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Cahartez could have his own section, there's enough to have a very small section. BunnyFlying (talk) 05:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


Artemis Fowl 6 should be Artemis Fowl: The Time Paradox. I'd do it myself, 'cept that I have no idea how to redirect stuff and I'm too lazy to learn how to do so. A lot of the technology, like the Retimager, could be merged into one article titled Fairy Technology or something like that. The Retimager article is ridiculously repetitive-I could probably rewrite it in one paragraph or so. BunnyFlying (talk) 05:38, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


Ok, people, we've got to take some more action. It seems that all of the coordinators and whatnot are inactive, so we need to get people to take the mantle. Is it ok with everybody if I take the Lead Coordinator? I'm going to take the position in exactly one week, so, if I don't get any replies, I'm hauling this place back into shape. I will not specify what I did to Mr. Jameson, I will just verify that I was present when the murder happened. (talk) 19:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I mind as I am in the position of "Coordinator (Stand in)". I am the acting Coordinator, and since we do not have an active Lead Coordinator, I technically assume that position as soon as both are officially inactive. <DREAMAFTER> <TALK> 21:02, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, yeah. Sure. That is perfect. I was just getting a bit worried seeing as we have had no active leaders but you for about a month. I will not specify what I did to Mr. Jameson, I will just verify that I was present when the murder happened. (talk) 21:18, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

It is actually that no-one was making any edits to these pages, so it seemed un-active, but I was trying. Read the two-above one, and tell me what you think. <DREAMAFTER> <TALK> 21:34, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
The Collaboration of the Month? Seems good to me. I will not specify what I did to Mr. Jameson, I will just verify that I was present when the murder happened. (talk) 21:49, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


As part of what I'm now calling my 'Project Rehaul', I've made a potential new logo for the WikiProject. Thoughts? Suggestions? I will not specify what I did to Mr. Jameson, I will just verify that I was present when the murder happened. (talk) 20:09, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

The proposed logo.
The redesigned logo.
The re-redesigned logo.

It is good, but could we make the lettering blue, or green? A dark blue or green of course. <DREAMAFTER> <TALK> 21:03, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm on it. I will not specify what I did to Mr. Jameson, I will just verify that I was present when the murder happened. (talk) 21:22, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I think it might be helpful to have a bit of space between the edges and the text, too.
-- KittyRainbow (talk) 21:34, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
PS: It currently says Aurum Potestast Est. :0

It should say Aurum Est Potestas. <DREAMAFTER> <TALK> 21:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I have a redesigned version, taking all of your comments into account. I'm uploading it now. I just think there's a bit of a problem with dark blue. It's not really working against gold, so I tried my best to make it look good. EDIT: Done. (See to left) I will not specify what I did to Mr. Jameson, I will just verify that I was present when the murder happened. (talk) 21:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I think that it looks great! I will put it onto the page now. <DREAMAFTER> <TALK> 22:01, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Er... it's probably too late to make any comment about this now... but I think that it's a little hard to read-the font's big, but the color's okay. Then again, I'm not really in a position to make anything better. BunnyFlying (talk) 23:38, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

No, it can be changed. <DREAMAFTER> <TALK> 00:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, but it's be a bunch of bother... and I meant "blocky" instead of big, the size is fine-it's just that the letters are a bit wide and hard to read. That's all.
Why do people keep trying to vandalize that Minor Characters page? Dreamafter, you've already reverted a bunch of edits, and there was this other guy who added something to the Briar Cudgeon section... it's horrible!
Like I said more to the top, I think that the LEP technology should be condensed into one article, and maybe the Fairy scripts/languages. Maybe. BunnyFlying (talk) 01:24, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
I concur with BunnyFlying, but then again, I'm not in this WikiProject, so I'd better shut up.Calvin 1998 (talk) 02:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, just so I have this clear, a slightly less blocky font, with the letters thinner. Would Courier suit it? Like, in bold? I will not specify what I did to Mr. Jameson, I will just verify that I was present when the murder happened. (talk) 21:20, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Okay, that should be great! <DREAMAFTER> <TALK> 21:30, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I have done that now. I'm just a bit iffy. It doesn't seem that big. I'll see if I can find a good thick font that isn't as thick as impact. I'll just wait to hear what you guys think before I download anything and/or change the file.

PS: I know it says 'Aurum Potestas Est'. I'll change that if everything else is ok.I will not specify what I did to Mr. Jameson, I will just verify that I was present when the murder happened. (talk) 21:59, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Looks good to me. More legible, so better, just change were the words are. <DREAMAFTER> <TALK> 23:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Artemis Fowl 6[edit]

Like BunnyFlying said, we(well, actually you, because I'm not in this WikiProject) should delete Artemis Fowl: The Time Paradox so that Artemis Fowl 6 can be moved into that location. I'm not a sysop, so I can't delete pages.Calvin 1998 (talk) 02:07, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Calvin is now part of the Wikiproject! Yay! BunnyFlying (talk) 05:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

The first comment has been done. <DREAMAFTER> <TALK> 21:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Complaints on Artemis Fowl: The Time Paradox[edit]

I have some complaints on the Artemis Fowl: The Time Paradox page:

One, it seems that Dreadstar simply moved Artemis Fowl 6 to Artemis Fowl: The Time Paradox. One, this shouldn't be possible because Artemis Fowl: The Time Paradox already existed, so the move should have failed. Can someone explain to me?
Two, "Whether Artemis will explain to his parents about fairies and why he is still only fifteen years of age."(quote) is NOT CORRECT. At the end of Artemis Fowl: The Lost Colony, he is 18 yrs. old. It also mentions that Butler already told his parents about the faires, and "everything", so it would not be necessary for Artemis to tell his parents.

Calvin 1998 (talk) 01:13, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, for number one:

  1. He is an admin, so he did an admin move, allowing it to ignor any other page in its way; Two
  2. You are correct that it doesn't make sense, so remove it, stating that it doesn't make sense.

<DREAMAFTER> <TALK> 01:47, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Physically/Emotionally/Mentally, he's 15. Legally, he's 18. Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 01:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


Ok, I've begun the 'Shield' page, with all of the information I had on hand (in other words, what I could remember) included in it. 2 things:

  1. Firstly, in the portion under the 'To-do List', it needs to be changed to 'Expand', rather than 'Create'. How would one do this?
  2. Secondly, we're going to need real teamwork to bring that page to an un-stub. Anyone up for helping? I will not specify what I did to Mr. Jameson, I will just verify that I was present when the murder happened. (talk) 16:14, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
In response,
  1. Go to this page, and edit it.
  2. I will try... <DREAMAFTER> <TALK> 20:00, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Info for articles[edit]

Check out this wiki for information to add to our articles, assuming that we can prove that information of course. And if you need help, go here to cite a book. <DREAMAFTER> <TALK> 15:13, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

To be honest, I think that they have more articles, but the articles all have just a little bit of info. It needs more information; we need more articles. Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 18:54, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but if we can gleen more info from that, all the better for us, correct? Dreamafter \*/ 22:47, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Artemis Fowl II Article needs help[edit]

The tag on top of Artemis Fowl II is correct in stating that the article is written from an in-universe perspective. Someone (or multiple people working together) needs to re-write some bits of the article to conform to the Wikipedia Manual of Style. Calvin 1998 (talk) 22:15, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Artemis Fowl:The Arctic Incident[edit]

Artemis Fowl: The Arctic Incident also needs a lot of help, it's plot summary is way too long. Can anyone help? Calvin 1998 (talk) 19:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

You're right, it's ridiculously long. I'll go chop away at it for a bit. The basic point is: Fowl I kidnapped,x yrs later, Fowl II gets email, sets off to rescue but the fairies take him underground b/c they think he's involved with the goblins, the whole Luc Carrere thing, then they go to the Arctic, where they're ambushed by goblins and Holly loses her finger, which is reattached, then they find Diggums, then they go underground and stop Koboi. On second thought, that's not really much better... Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 21:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I did a bit of chopping and hacking, but there is no significant change. Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 22:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Paragraph 5 is questionable, I don't think that's how the events went, and my borrowed copy of AI is in my closet somewhere. (Don't ask.) Paragraphs 3 on are too long. Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 01:13, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Response to Roll Call[edit]

This is just a response to the "Roll Call for WikiProject Artemis Fowl" I got. I'm still on the Active list, so I'm answering the question by saying, "I'm still here!". Calvin 1998 (talk) 03:57, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, same here. Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 01:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I am obviously here as I requested the bot send the request out. Dreamy § 02:02, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Likewise still here. -- KittyRainbow (talk) 17:48, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Alive and active. Makatota 21:23, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Looks like everyone's here. Calvin 1998 (talk) 23:38, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Ya, but this was to see if any inactive user would like to re-activate. Dreamy § 23:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Doesn't look like anyone wants to rejoin, but we should wait some more. Calvin 1998 (talk) 05:24, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
I think it's safe to say that no one inactive wants to rejoin. Calvin 1998 (talk) 07:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
I think that I will have a different one sent out that says that we will remove names for inactive members as they have been inactive for months. Dreamy § 17:21, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey, it's Laptopdude. I am still interested in the project, but, again, I am seriously overbooked with school and activities right now. Sorry. But I am going to put forth a serious effort to become active again. (I'll be back with vengeance in the summer.) Laptopdude (talk) 23:41, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


Who's going to be the new stand-in coordinator and lead coordinator if laptopdude gets knocked off the contributor's list? Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 02:22, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, what's the difference between lead coordinator, stand-in lead coordinator, coordinator, and stand-in coordinator? Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 02:24, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Most projects don't even have such a thing.--Hanaichi 08:15, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
  1. The Lead Coordinator will become me, as I am the only one left on the list for that. The Lead-Coordinator Stand-In and Coordinator Stand-In will be removed because they are pointless appointments. The Coordinator will be whomever wants it. If there s a dispute about who wants it, just ask me and I'll try to be impartial and choose the best candidate. Dreamy § 14:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
  2. The difference is that a coordinator can make decisions while the Lead-Coordinator can overrule them if they think it is better for the WikiProject as a whole. The Coordinator cannot override the Lead Coordinator. Dreamy § 14:33, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I have to say, I'm confused as to what the role of Coordinator (and Lead Coordinator) is. Is it a purely organisational role? You know - contacting old members, choosing article collaborations, updating the front page, that sort of thing? Dreamafter, you talk about "overruling"... Overruling what? Surely decisions about the creation of articles, their content, templates, infoboxes, etc. should be directed by Wikipedia policy, and by consensus of discussion between this WikiProject's members? (And if the election of the new Coordinator is by consensus, surely they should be enacting the consensus of the community, and not need to be overruled or be doing any overruling themselves; otherwise wouldn't the community consensus become to remove the Coordinator from their office?) I've never seen a WikiProject with Coordinators before, so, err, can you explain what a Coordinator would be expected to do? -- KittyRainbow (talk) 05:48, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, purely organisational. It is so that we can send out the notices for users, and the overruling is for when a policy may be broken, also see WP:IAR. And for a project with coordinators, see WP:MILHIST. A coordinator's role is to make sure that everything is up to date on the page. The Lead-Coordinator is to send out notices and to update the front page if the Coordinator neglects to do it. Dreamy § 21:01, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Remove Roll-Call[edit]

  1. I am here. Dreamy § 14:35, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
  2. Do the facts not speak for themselves? I'm here. Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 18:03, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Everyone else active is obviously here as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Calvin 1998 (talkcontribs) 18:10, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


I removed 007bond and laptopdude from the list, and made Dreamafter the lead coordinator, but the position of coordinator is still undecided. Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 18:49, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I will not vote for the simple reason that I have to appoint the Coordinator. Dreamy § 23:33, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


Majority election by popular vote. Will stay open until, like, maybe forever.

*All for KittyRainbow

#Support has been here longer than even I, will do well. Dreamy § 04:08, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Do NOT vote for me, I wouldn't spend that much time here anyways. I know the series well enough to write fanfic, sure, but that's my main dedication. Not this. I don't know about Makatota, but KittyRainbow is more active on the site AND also writes fanfic, and while Calvin 1998 is not the most familiar with AF, he spends enough of his time here that he deserves it. Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 04:21, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I have decided that, under my careful consideration, KittyRainbow will be given the position of Coordinator. ~ Dreamy § 01:31, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I thought it was an election? (Though you certainly can't do much of one with four or so people.) And we have a new member. All hail Legoktm, our new... I dunno what the word is. Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 23:51, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Minor Artemis Fowl Characters[edit]

Anyone going to put in something for Madame Ko? I can't do it myself.
The page also should have some kind of references list.
It also looks like some vandals snuck in some controversial stuff. See Minor Artemis Fowl Characters#Chix Verbil.
In other words, it's terrible. I'll try to fix some stuff, but someone's got to help me.
Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 22:35, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm okay with the minor LEP officers, but I don't know much about Madame Ko-try looking in EC. I fixed some random stuff that only an obsessive AF freak like me would recognize, but... yeah. Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 04:08, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Is Cahartez getting a section or not?????? And what exactly is Vinyaya's role in Section Eight? Commander or "Council Chairwoman" or what? (It says that Section Eight is a "small Council division" of the LEP or something.) Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 06:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh yes, and there's a lot of info from LC that should be added into her article, like the whole "retrieval team to the dark side of the moon" thing and the "first girl in the LEP". Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 00:33, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Rating stub Articles[edit]

could we create a template that when a article on it's talk page is rated with {{WPArtemisFowl}}, then it creates a "stub" category, a "start" category etc. That way all the articles on the talk pages are rated, and we know which ones are not rated. Legoktm (talk) 04:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, could we have importance levels in the {{WPArtemisFowl}}, to help other editors. Thanks Legoktm (talk) 06:16, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I started working on editing it to do both. I'll tell you when I'm done.  Laptopdude  Talk  03:01, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Here is the end result. Also, I have all of the possibilities listed here. If everyone likes it, I'll go ahead and replace the old one, as well as create the new pages used in it (categories, priority).  Laptopdude  Talk  04:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Awesome. I will change the {{WPArtemisFowl}} now. Legoktm (talk) 06:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
OK. I'll create the new pages now.  Laptopdude  Talk  17:23, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
All of the categories now exist, as well as Wikipedia:WikiProject Artemis Fowl/Priority. I'll make a navigation template for the priority pages soon.  Laptopdude  Talk  19:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Awesome job. Could you also add a non-article category, so it does not show up as a unassessed article. Thanks Legoktm (talk) 20:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
I have to updated it so it works with the priority row as well. Just put in class=NA and it will remove the class and priority rows.  Laptopdude  Talk  21:37, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


What is the "Scripts" list supposed to include (see Template:WP Artemis Fowl todo)? And should the list include non-existent pages (i.e. Mood blanket)?  Laptopdude  Talk  21:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I think "scripts" means written languages, but ask User:Dreamafter just to make sure. Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 04:06, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
It means languages and written languages used in the books, like Gnommish, Centaurian, and others like that. ~ Dreamy § 22:22, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. But was any language other than gnommish ever mentioned?  Laptopdude  Talk  03:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, as I mentioned above, Centaurian was mentioned, and I am sure there were others. ~ Dreamy § 21:09, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Planned Butler family (Artemis Fowl) article[edit]

Hey, Dreamafter, what do you think should be on this planned article? I might want to make it. Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 01:10, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, all of the Characters that are mentioned to have been part of his family, like Domovoi, and his Uncle, the Major, I believe, as those to are mentioned. Any others would be better. And for references, you can type in
<ref>[[Artemis Fowl (novel)|Artemis Fowl]], p. <insert number></ref>
Just don't forget to change the <insert number> to the page number the information is found on. This can be used for any one of our articles to reference anything we have. ~ Dreamy § 21:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Is there some sort of infobox for families? (and the article, which is still under construction, is at User:Calvin 1998/Butler family article) Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 23:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
We, by we I mean that the AF Project does not have one, but you could always create one, or as Laptopdude to do it, he seems pretty adept at doing it. We only have the single character boxes. ~ Dreamy § 01:06, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Actually, we should make one(or modify an existing one), seeing we could also use one for the Fowl Family article (which could use expansion). By the way, are there any categories other that [[Category:Artemis Fowl]] that I could put the butler family article in? Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs

I could have sworn that there was something in AI about them... something about how they could possibly go off and ask for help from some of Butler's friends... and there was something about how there was only two people that had his ability of skill, and one was on an island beating up palm trees or something. Were any of them members of the Butler family?

And there should be something about the first Butler who was paired with a Fowl... Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 22:59, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

  1. Neither were members of the Butler family. ~ Dreamy § 23:44, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
  2. There should be if we can find and reference it. ~ Dreamy § 23:44, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

All right, the thing on the first butler/fowl pairing is on. There's also a bit on their training. I'll have to check out arctic incident to get more information on the other sections + to ref the fact that the name of the training is "madame ko's bodyguard academy". Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 01:43, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

This discussion has been moved to User talk:Calvin 1998/Butler family article. Please discuss it there. —Preceding comment was added at 02:10, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Possible article/stub on the explosion of the Fowl Star[edit]

Do you think the explosion of the Fowl Star is important enough to have it's own article, or should we simply expand Fowl Star to include information from it? Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 04:21, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Things like that aren't notable enough for an article, it will end up as a stub anyway. I say just make a section in the Fowl Star. --Hanaichi 13:52, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposal of Juliet Butler and User:Calvin 1998/Butler family article[edit]

I've proposed a merge, seeing there isn't much information on Juliet. Go to Talk:Juliet Butler#Merger proposal to comment. Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 16:54, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Unofficial merge proposal of Domovoi Butler and User:Calvin 1998/Butler family article[edit]

I'm going to need to get references for all the info at Domovoi Butler if I'm going to put it on (yeah, even more refs :( ). But when I do, we can delete the Domovoi Butler page (unless someone doesn't approve of the merge). If anyone doesn't approve, say so!
Dreamafter, could you notify the not-so-active members of the project about the proposed merges and see if they approve? Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 02:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I take back the merge, there's enough info on Domovoi to warrant his own article. Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 04:55, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Minor AF Characters' Old Talk Pages[edit]

Should the List of minor Artemis Fowl characters' old talk pages be deleted under WP:CSD#G8 (No corresponding article page for a talk page) or should the content be moved to Talk:List of minor Artemis Fowl characters? ~ LegoKontribsTalkM 03:59, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

CSD G8. Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 04:24, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
CSD G8 is the best possible choice. ~ Dreamy § 12:30, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
All of them have been deleted ~ LegoKontribsTalkM 00:30, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Article assesment and priority ratings[edit]

To continue on Legoktm's statements, how do we rate articles? Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 00:49, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Use the grading system at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment#Grades ~ LegoKontribsTalkM 06:34, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Family infobox[edit]

What would be the different sections for the family infobox?  Laptopdude  Talk  20:51, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Make it up yourself or look on other WikiProjects (or ask Dreamafter). Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 23:34, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Probably Parents/Adults, Children/Teens. And then another section stating the not-so-close family, like uncles/aunts/cousins/etc... ~ Dreamy § 00:23, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I finally made the infobox. Check it out at User:Laptopdude/Sandbox 2.  Laptopdude  Talk  02:17, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

It looks great, so I have moved it to the proper template page. ~ Dreamy § 02:31, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

May I join?[edit]

May I?Smashbrosboy 03:31, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you may. Just add your name to Wikipedia:WikiProject Artemis Fowl#Participants and help! ~ LegoKontribsTalkM 23:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

GA Review of Artemis Fowl (novel)[edit]

Artemis Fowl (novel) is currently going through a good article review, at WP:Good article nominations#Literature ~ LegoKontribsTalkM 19:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

The reviewer, Million Moments, apparently is a little worried about the status of the film mentioned in the article. See Talk:Artemis Fowl (novel)#GA on hold. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 19:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm glad to say that it passed! :) Ale_Jrbtalk 12:54, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

adding notice of new members[edit]

In case no one noticed, here are some new users we've gained recently:

  1. PwnerELITE
  2. Danny sepley
  3. Smashbrosboy - Insanely long sig, takes up 3 lines of wikicode, and I'm using a widescreen monitor Calvin 1998 (t-c)
  4. Ale_Jrbtalk
  5. George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp
  6. GlobeGores (talk page | user page)

Bringing the total to 13, including some rather inactive members. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 05:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


What exactly are we defining priority as? My thoughts were that it was a combination of both class (see: Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment#Grades) and importance (notoriety and significance of a topic within the Artemis Fowl universe), not just one or the other. But seeing as we already have the class scale, would it make more sense to make importance a larger factor in priority than class?  Laptopdude  Talk  20:04, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I thought that it was how much work it needs to get to FA class, with 1 being needing most amount of work (stub) and 5 being pretty close (A) or already FA. ~ LegoKontribsTalkM 22:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, it makes sense to define 'priority' as the amount of work it needs, combined with the time urgency and importance.

Example: If Artemis Fowl II were a stub, it would be priority 1, as it both needs work and is important. Calvin 1998 Talk Contribs 00:15, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I hate to disagree, but it makes absolutely no sense to me to have priority be how much work an article needs. Surely that is what the class parameter is for? Why duplicate that information? Also, you might like to note that elsewhere on Wikipedia, "priority" is synonymous with "importance". And, even if we had "priority" be a separate parameter from "importance", why should "priority" be a combination of class and some hidden, intangible "importance" parameter? Surely the urgency of work on an article could be determined by its position in the table: i.e. bottom left (stub, 1) - urgently needs a lot of work, bottom right (stub, 5) - needs a lot of work but not so urgently, top row (FA) - doesn't really need work at all. So, yeah, that is basically my opinion on that. -- KittyRainbow (talk) 07:26, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Characters pages[edit]

Why do we have a "List of minor Artemis Fowl characters" and a "List of Artemis Fowl characters"??? The former appears to redirect to the latter, but we obviously don't need both so one of them needs to be deleted. And when I checked yesterday, the "List of Artemis Fowl characters" was missing many characters, but somebody's redirected the MINOR characters page to the characters page and merged them together, too-it's a lot improved from yesterday. Which one are we going to delete? Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 17:43, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

If you merge pages, you always redirect the merged one to the one they merged to. We're going to keep the "List of Artemis Fowl characters" because that's the one with all the content on it. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 17:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Participants List[edit]

Can we change all the sigs on the participants list to standard sigs like Example (talk)? It's cluttering up the code in the list.Calvin 1998 (t-c) 23:55, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I think that would be sensible. Personally I find it visually confusing with all those different styles. (And you're right, it also produces a lot of code.) -- KittyRainbow (talk) 07:26, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Should we be removing all of the participants who are inactive, instead of putting inactive next to their name, as their are a ton more inactive participants not on there? ~ LegoKontribsTalkM 02:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Leave it there for a while, if they don't contribute for a really long time, then take them off. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 02:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

List of pages in this WikiProject[edit]

Shouldn't Wikipedia:WikiProject Artemis Fowl/List of articles covered by this WikiProject be a category, not a manually-updated list? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 18:07, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

There is Category:WikiProject_Artemis_Fowl.  Laptopdude  Talk  18:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
So should we replace the link to Wikipedia:WikiProject Artemis Fowl/List of articles covered by this WikiProject on the project page to Category:WikiProject Artemis Fowl ? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 18:50, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, I think that the entire point of the category page would be to keep track of new pages being created, but I don't foresee many pages being added in the future. Also, the current list of articles provides the extra links for the pages (i.e. talk, edit, history, etc). I would say the current page is fine, but I think we should get a third opinion. Your thoughts?  Laptopdude  Talk  15:47, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
The current system is fine, but on Laptopdudes comments on the new pages, there will be some more as soon as the next book comes out ~ LegoKontribsTalkM 22:29, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Userbox Template[edit]

{{User Artemis Fowl}}

Please use this so that category links can be made.

Signing so this will be archived Calvin 1998 (t-c) 02:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

New User[edit]

Hello Project Artemis Fowl editors and coordinators - I have joined your endeavor, and started off with making some grammar edits to the Series Page. Please tell me if you want me to take care of some edits. I will continue to improve the quality of many Artemis Fowl Pages, and hopefully Project Artemis Fowl will be a success. Limaye (talk) 06:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Article Statusbox[edit]

This could be put on the main WP:AF page to show how many articles we have and what are they ranked at

Artemis Fowl
5 4 3 2 1 Total
GA 0
B 9 9
Start 1 14 15
Stub 6 6
Assessed 1 29 30
Unassessed 29 29
Total 1 58 59
Note: If the article did not have a priority assigned, it is placed under priority level 1.
As of 15:27, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I will be ranking a lot more articles soon, and should the books be at priority level 5 as they are important to get to FA status

I did this all by looking at each article's talk page, so it would be much easier if there was a bot maybe to do it? ~ LegoKontribsTalkM 15:39, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't think there's a bot to do that, but priority 1 is the most important, not priority 5. See WP:AF/P —Preceding unsigned comment added by Calvin 1998 (talkcontribs) 00:45, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I added an FA row, fixed the priority order, changed the heading from "Importance" to "Priority", and made the priority columns wider. ( I didn't update any of the numbers, though.)  Laptopdude  Talk  19:54, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Artemis Fowl
1 2 3 4 5 Total
Featured article FA 0
GA 0
B 9 9
Start 1 14 15
Stub 6 6
Assessed 1 29 30
Unassessed 29 29
Total 1 58 59
Actually, there is a bot that updates status boxes like these. But, as we seem to be using a different priority system (1 to 5, instead of Top, High, Mid, Low and None) from every other WikiProject, I don't know how it would react to our articles.
If I'd actually been around at the time this was being implemented, I would've suggested that we use the Top-High-Mid-etc system (apart from being more widely used, it's also more intuitive - whereas as this thread has shown it has to be explained whether 1 or 5 is the highest rank) but I suppose it's too late now...
-- KittyRainbow (talk) 07:26, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
PS: While I was writing this reply, that archive bot came along and moved this thread to the archive page! Grr! *shakes fist at bot* Silly bot, LOL.
That would make the task easier, but Laptopdude would have to change the talk page notice (which is probably easy for him). ~ LegoKontribsTalkM 02:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I am working on a new talk page notice with the Top, High, Med, Low, importance in my sandbox: User:Legoktm/Sandbox3 ~ LegoKontribsTalkM 04:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
It is finished at User:Legoktm/Sandbox3 and examples can be seen at User:Legoktm/Sandbox4. Things to remember, You MUST capitialize the first letter in each word, i.e. stub to Stub low to Low and you CANNOT use Mid, you must use Medium. If it is fine with Dreamy, i will go ahead and change the main template and start recategorizing articles. ~ LegoKontribsTalkM 03:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
That looks like some fine work there! :) But, can I ask, why Medium instead of Mid? I thought one of the reasons to change it was so that the statistics bot doesn't go all crazy on us? (If so, we really ought to change "priority" to "importance". Also the category format seems to be "Top-importance Artemis Fowl articles", etc. rather than "Priority Top Artemis Fowl articles".) Now, I have no idea whether the bot does actually go mental if you deviate from the pattern, but, err - personally I'd rather not chance it? :| -- KittyRainbow (talk) 03:38, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
If we use Mid, then it will say "This article has received an importance rating of Mid within the Artemis Fowl Wikiproject." If that is fine with everyone, then you can use Mid instead of Medium. I have switched the category links. ~ LegoKontribsTalkM 04:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

(reset indent) Is everyone fine with the change from priority to importance? LegoKontribsTalkM 00:47, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, and have we found a bot for updating such a statusbox? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 01:15, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it's called the WP 1.0 bot. I did actually link it earlier, but the link was quite small so I'm not surprised you missed it, heh. -- KittyRainbow (talk) 13:55, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Any comments? LegoKontribsTalkM 22:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Help requested[edit]

Requesting help expanding User:Calvin 1998/Domovoi Butler (a re-write of Domovoi Butler). Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:55, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Was also wondering whether we should create an article on the Paradizo family. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 21:29, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Why not? Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 01:19, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, it's at User:Calvin 1998/Paradizo family. It's really small right now. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 00:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


Current status: Main portal construction completed, now we need to make all the subpages, including the rotating character bios and selected articles. Also need to add the portal template to all articles in Category:Artemis Fowl (maybe with AWB?). Calvin 1998 (t-c) 05:59, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I think all of them are  Done LegoKontribsTalkM 23:50, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Heh, the selected whatevers are blank for me right now... are those done? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 23:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
And about the AWB work, I think we need to add {{Portal}} to all the AF articles... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 23:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I think I got them all (The ones that show up blank, have just been tagged with the category) LegoKontribsTalkM 05:11, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


Any opinions/suggestions on User:Calvin 1998/Domovoi Butler? I'm more or less done with it, I just need to get all the books and put refs on it. Any suggestions for improvement would be appreciated. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 02:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Just needs the [citation needed] tags to be removed and replaced with refs. LegoKontribsTalkM 06:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I looked it over, fixed a couple grammar errors, added the names of those books, and the name of that city. Nice job. Also, since i don't know how to cite sources, the town was on page 380 and the books on page 381.  Laptopdude  Talk  22:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Nice... I'll add the refs in as soon as I can. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 22:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


I noticed that Warlock (Artemis Fowl) has Template:WPArtemisFowl on its discussion page, even though it is only a redirect page. Should the template be removed? Also, since it seems we want to use that bot to keep track of our pages, I could edit Template:WPArtemisFowl and fix the category links so that the importance category works with the bot without any edits to articles. If you want me to do that, what should we do about the leftover no-longer-in-use priority categories? Speaking of the bot, should we put a link to the statistics table or the table itself on the project page? Finally, I have updated the Log of Active Users on my userpage.  Laptopdude  Talk  23:40, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Umm... yeah, redirects should have Category:WikiProject Artemis Fowl on them, but no template, it's more or less useless. As for the template/category modification, yeah, go ahead and do it. I think there's a way to delete the old categories, but I'm not sure what it is. And as for the main page, I think it's time we redesign the whole thing again. I suppose we can decide then what to do with the statusbox. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 23:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
I added category links to all redirect pages having to do with this wikiproject so that they show up under "R" in Category:WikiProject Artemis Fowl and fixed some of the redirects.  Laptopdude  Talk  05:21, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

New main page[edit]

OK, I made a draft of a possible new design on User:Calvin 1998/Sandbox, after the horizontal rule. It's more or less the same as the current one. It transcludes all the messy code off User:Calvin 1998/Sandbox 2, so design modifications should be made to that page. All content is passed using the pipe-things, so it's all on the main sandbox, where the page actually is. I'm going to need help making the rest of the content for the page.Calvin 1998 (t-c) 00:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I just finished redoing the template, so see the changes by starting at WP:AF/P and using the links from there. Since the bot only runs every 3 days, the table at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Artemis Fowl articles by quality statistics hasn't been updated to include the importance ratings yet. I think we can simply include the table on the project page with {{subst:Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Artemis Fowl articles by quality statistics}}. I'm also going to look into getting those extra categories deleted.  Laptopdude  Talk  01:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, there's a draft of a new main page ready at User:Calvin 1998/Sandbox. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Three things. One: BunnyFlying (talk · contribs) and Ale_jrb (talk · contribs) are technically still active (see Log of Active Users on my userpage), two: our Lead Coordinator Dreamafter (talk · contribs) hasn't edited within the wikiproject for 73 days (again see previous link), and three: I added a link to WP:AF/P to the articles section on your sandbox. Otherwise it looks good.  Laptopdude  Talk  21:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 Done OK, I fixed the above points. I think I'll wait until some more people show up and give their opinions. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 22:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Looks good to me! I'd prefer if it there was a paragraph break after rather than before the "WP:AF redirects here..." bit, but, eh, minor aesthetic issue. Oh, and I'd recommend keeping the WikiProject parentage thing - I think that sort of interWikiProject linking is helpful, and most WikiProjects have it. But, yes, seems fine. Good work. :) -- KittyRainbow (talk), showing up to give her opinion, at 23:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Looks fine. LegoKontribsTalkM 02:25, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
One comment--all the templates at the bottom of the page have disappeared. Was that done on purpose? IceUnshattered (talk) 19:09, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
They're still there for me... might be a browser issue, let me check. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 19:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Uh... yeah. The {{hidden begin}} template that is used uses collapsible divs, which don't work on IE or Safari, I'll translate everything into collapsible wiki-tables (which I think work on all browsers) when I get time. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 19:18, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

New template?[edit]

I thought it might be nice to have a template where you simply put in the book number and page number and it automatically displays the cite information, so I volunteer to make one. Yes? No?  Laptopdude  Talk  22:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm for it... it's not that hard, it just needs to contain the {{Cite book}} template, substituted, with all the parameters replaced with the template's own but with the author, publisher, ISBN, etc, etc, already filled in. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 22:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Started at Wikipedia:WikiProject Artemis Fowl/Reference. LegoKontribsTalkM 22:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes please! :) I think something like that would be really useful. Maybe we could even make it like the Harry Potter ones, so that we can cite exact pages? (See Template:PS, Template:CoS, Template:PoA, Template:GoF, Template:OotP, Template:HBP, Template:DH.) That might be a bit complicated though... -- KittyRainbow (talk) 23:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
You can now insert a single page, or a range of pages. See {{AF Cite Book}} for the full explanation. LegoKontribsTalkM 03:31, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
While we're on the subject of templates, can someone change {{AF character}} so it supports putting in an image? There are a couple images from the graphic novel that could possibly be used under fair use. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 17:11, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Ok, images are now usable. It wont show if not used. LegoKontribsTalkM 19:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Histmerge request at 03:19, 13 June 2008[edit]

Page content was changed, see request at WP:SPLICE. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 20:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Page layout manually changed. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 05:49, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

New Coordinator Needed[edit]

It seems like Dreamy has officially left the project :( Would anyone be willing to be the coordinator? LegoKontribsTalkM 05:17, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

KittyRainbow is already the de facto coordinator anyway... I say we remove the role of "Lead Coordinator" and just have 1 coordinator... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 05:20, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Bye-bye, Dreamy! I never got to see her work, it's a pity she's gone. I concur with Calvin 1998, though. IceUnshattered (talk) 20:26, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
her?, he is a he. See his userpage :P LegoKontribsTalkM 04:45, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Aah, I'm sorry. I mix up genders a lot here on Wikipedia. Apologies. IceUnshattered (talk) 22:17, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

User:Calvin 1998/Domovoi Butler[edit]

I am currently counting 3 {{fact}} tags, 2 from the Eternity Code, and one from the Arctic Incident. Is it time to move it into the mainspace? LegoKontribsTalkM 14:55, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

It already is in the mainspace, I replaced Domovoi Butler with the contents of that page. Of course, the less {{fact}} tags, the better. nowAll and any fix-ups should go to Domovoi Butler from now on. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 19:13, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme[edit]

As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.

  • The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
  • The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
  • A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.

Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot (Disable) 22:20, 4 July 2008 (UTC)


Hello, I'm not a member of this project, but have recently made some userboxes for Artemis Fowl that I am eager to show off.

This user is a fan of Artemis Fowl. So think fairy, think again.
This user is a fan of Artemis Fowl. Aurum potestas est.

Here is the code: {{User:Fairfieldfencer/AF}} (think fairy) {{User:Fairfieldfencer/AF2}} (gold is power).

Please feel free to contact me if there is anything wrong with them. Enjoy.Fairfieldfencer FFF 10:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Those are really pretty, and I like the slogans. Thanks so much! -hugs- IceUnshattered (talk) 21:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
I added them to the main project page after fixing them up a big (turned out the problem was actually in one of Dreamafter's userboxes :P ). Calvin 1998 (t-c) 21:52, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Nice to see they could be put to good use. ^__^Fairfieldfencer FFF 21:53, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I just checked in the 3rd book and the saying for the second box is actually "Aurum Est Potestas". I made the correction already. Also, if the first one is in reference to the code on the 3rd book, isn't it "Think, fairy. Think Again."?  Laptopdude  Talk  03:19, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

It is but I put "So think" because I'm a fan of Artemis Fowl and there fore a match for the people. And in my version of the Eternity code on page 87, it's aurum potestas est. And it's the same in the Opal deception. Are you American? Because the american version changed the average height of a fairy from a meter to three feet. So maybe they did yet another change.Fairfieldfencer FFF 08:44, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Strange. I just typed those words in on Wikipedia and my version translates to gold power is. Perhaps Eoin Colfer isn't very fluent in Latin. That or Latin doesn't go the same way as English words do. So aurum potestas est actually does translate to gold is power.Fairfieldfencer FFF 09:08, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
I have a feeling that aurum potestas est is actually correct Latin. Some languages completely flip around words, so it appears in the wrong order when you literally translate it. Not sure though :( Calvin 1998 (t-c) 14:10, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Well I've reverted Laptop's edit anyway.Fairfieldfencer FFF 14:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Would you mind if I put these two under Wikipedia:Userboxes/Media/Books#Novels?  Laptopdude  Talk  20:46, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Nothing wrong with it... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 20:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
About the Latin, according to my Latin teacher, verbs generally would go at the end, so technically, Aurum potestas est is correct (from what I can tell). But it doesn't really matter very much, I don't think...IceUnshattered (talk) 21:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Go ahead.Fairfieldfencer FFF 08:27, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
I added them. Also, a though about this, might we want to invite users who use these userboxes into the WikiProject? They'll all be listed at Category:Wikipedians who read Artemis Fowl.  Laptopdude  Talk  03:57, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Good idea. They'd take the userbox and we'd catch them like a fish on a lure. That sounds like something a cartoon evil genius would say.Fairfieldfencer FFF 13:15, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

New C-Class...[edit]

Someone's going to have to make the categories and all that for C-class... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 00:03, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Just checked and a bot from WP 1.0 already did it.  Laptopdude  Talk  02:30, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, they already existed somehow ... :( . I manually ran the 1.0 bot to update the table. Oh, and you might want to update your log of active users (and stick it on it's own page so we can transclude it onto the main page). Calvin 1998 (t-c) 02:43, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Will do.  Laptopdude  Talk  21:56, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
OK, the table is now at User:Laptopdude/Wikiproject Artemis Fowl/Log of Active Users.  Laptopdude  Talk  22:26, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Oops. I already created one at Wikipedia:WikiProject Artemis Fowl/Participants/Table. One needs to be CSD'd. And another thing -- I can't figure out how to transclude it into a collapsible table in the main page :( (light bulb goes on) maybe the table itself should be collapsible... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 00:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
It makes more sense to delete mine. I'll put on the template.  Laptopdude  Talk  20:53, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I experimented with a couple new features, all of which are visible at User:Laptopdude/Sandbox 2: (1) Use of Template:User-c-name instead of Template:User for aesthetics, (2) If a member has not edited since the day they joined, they are displayed in bold, and (3) Adjusted column widths for aesthetics. If everyone agrees I can switch out the codes for my template (User:Laptopdude/Templates/ContributionsTable).  Laptopdude  Talk  23:20, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Only one suggestion: the jyear, jmonth, jday thing is tedious to write out. Any chance you could use some parserfunctions to allow straight input of date (like 2008-07-11 or 2008-11-07)? #time: parserfunction might do the trick. The changes are good, but perhaps instead of making the user bold, how about highlighting it some color (no ideas for which color...)? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 00:46, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, the reason I did bold instead of a color is because a color could interfere with the current 'yellow if greater than 30 days'. Also, I did not know about #time: , but I'll look that up soon. Right now I'm going to bed, so I'll take a look at it tomorrow, but at first glance it looks promising.  Laptopdude  Talk  03:53, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
If you haven't figured out, the #time: parserfunction has documentation at m:Help:ParserFunctions. Using that particular parserfunction is really complicated though...Calvin 1998 (t-c) 19:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
It's done now using the format join=YY-M-D and edit=YY-M-D. You can see the table at User:Laptopdude/Sandbox 2 or go right to the edit screen here: [2] to view the difference in code.  Laptopdude  Talk  03:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Looks good. I suppose we should wait for more input though... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 05:20, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Went bold and updated the live version. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 05:30, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject-wide project?[edit]

Anyone interested in setting up a WikiProject-wide project (to say, clean-up an article)? Most large WikiProjects I see have one, and it greatly enhances the project's teamwork abilities and the quality of their articles. By the way, if anyone has figured out by now, I re-assessed and updated the table of articles. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 01:27, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

What's a wide project? Is it like this: WP:WikiProject Sega/Sonic.Fairfieldfencer FFF 08:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
No, I was thinking of a "project" where everyone in the WikiProject focuses on a single article, cleaning it up, etc. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 19:55, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
A WikiProject for a single article? That seems a tad over the edge don't you think? All you need is one determined editor, or notify all the members of this WikiProject that the article in question needs cleaning up. What is the article in question?Fairfieldfencer FFF 20:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
It's not over the edge when we have ~5 members and ~3.5 active members, 0 Featured articles, 1 Good, 0 A class, and 1 B-class. The article I was thinking of was Artemis Fowl: The Arctic Incident. We should get at least all the books to GA, if not FA. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 20:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
True enough. Real world articles are easier to do than fiction.Fairfieldfencer FFF 20:08, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Okay, Calvin. Whatever other people will do, Icy's on it. ^^. And I like the idea of a Project-wide articlecleanup. For a Project of AF's size (small), it seems logical. IceUnshattered (talk) 21:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


I'm going on vacation without a computer until 7-22-08. Happy editing!  Laptopdude  Talk  21:20, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

And I'm probably not going to be able to get a copy of the Time Paradox for a couple weeks, so don't expect me to clean up the horrendously large plot summary'retelling over there. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 21:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I got the book yesterday so I'll read it over vacation. (My last-minute edit, minutes before I leave. Yay Wikipediholism.).  Laptopdude  Talk  17:58, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
S'ya later, Laptopdude! If all goes well, I'll be getting a copy today, so I may actually be able to start correcting summary. If all goes well, that is. IceUnshattered (talk) 18:45, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't have the book nor will I have it for a considerable amount of time (possibly weeks), meaning that Artemis Fowl: The Time Paradox and Holly Short (someone stuck some information from Time Paradox in there) won't be getting my help :( Calvin 1998 (t-c) 19:45, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
I have the book and have finished it, but I will be going on vacation again. LegoKontribsTalkM 01:22, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
I already cut the plot down a lot, with spelling corrected thanks to Laptopdude...and it looks like our coordinator took a vacation from the Project, too. IceUnshattered (talk) 23:16, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Inactive Users[edit]

Would it be a good idea to post a reminder on any inactive users and users who haven't edited since joining talk pages that they are in the WikiProject? For example: User:Laptopdude/Sandbox 3.  Laptopdude  Talk  16:59, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Some of us already do [3] - but the template is nice and helpful :) Calvin 1998 (t-c) 17:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I moved it to Template:AF Reminder.  Laptopdude  Talk  17:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


Some random news:

  1. Our coordinator is once again inactive. Perhaps we should try anarchy (#2 in the list given on the article)?
  2. Artemis Fowl:The Arctic Incident - seems to have stalled, perhaps some people would like to see my improved plot summary and shorten it down a bit?

Calvin 1998 (t-c) 18:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

It's the curse of the coordinators...Koboi will come to (insert name of coordinator here) and wipe their minds and they will forget about poor WikiProject AF and... Excuse me for rambling. Maybe anarchy would work for now. I'll try to cut down more on Arctic-kun, see User:IceUnshattered/Drafts, maybe. IceUnshattered (talk) 20:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC) (later - I can't seem to do much with Arctic Incident either. Must try another strategy.)


I wanted to ask if anyone could generate a bot for our Log of active users? I had a look at the bot policy, but I don't think I have enough experience to generate a bot as I still am rather new, although I am familiar with many concepts of Wikipedia.--Leolisa1997 (talk) 08:28, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't know enough to create a bot, either. (internal cursing) We're already looking for a bot, see here. Haven't found one yet, though. IceUnshattered (talk) 16:13, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Has someone tried Wikipedia:Bot requests? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 17:03, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
I know that. I had a look at the page already, which is why I asked about the bot. I didn't look at the bot requests yet, so thanks for the tip.--Leolisa1997 (talk) 09:33, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for putting the inquiry in, Leolisa - We have some feedback, see User:MelonBot/Member lists. IceUnshattered (talk) 16:35, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Seems like as long as the bot can produce the time and page of the last edit (to the project) for each user, it would be relatively easy to manually update the table with the data... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 17:48, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Had a look at User:MelonBot/Member lists. It made me confused. Can someone help out?--Leolisa1997 (talk) 10:52, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

← It more or less compiles a list of all users, sorted by their most recent edit to the WikiProject (see one of the examples). Not exactly what we want (we need time/date and page of most recent edit for each person). Calvin 1998 (t-c) 15:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. It's acceptable, because we could look at the person's contributions and 'find' the article we're looking for, unless someone generates a bot specifically for what we are looking for?--Leolisa1997 (talk) 07:01, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Media franchises[edit]

Dear WikiProject Artemis Fowl participants...WikiProject Media franchises needs some help from other projects which are similar. Media franchises' scope deals primarily with the coordination of articles within the hundreds if not thousands of media franchises which exist. Sometimes a franchise might just need color coordination of the various templates used; it could mean creating an article for the franchise as a jump off point for the children of it; or the creation of a new templating system for media franchise articles. The project primarily focuses on multimedia franchises. It would be great if some of this project's participants would come over and help the project get back on solid footing. Also, if you know of similar projects which have not received this, let Lady Aleena (talk · contribs) know. Please come and take a look at the project and see if you wish to lend a hand. You can sign up here if you wish. Thank you. LA @ 04:59, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Franchise naming convention discussion at WikiProject Media franchises[edit]

Dear WikiProject Artemis Fowl participants...WikiProject Media franchises is currently discussing a naming convention for franchise articles. Since this may affect one or more articles in your project, we would like to get the opinions of all related projects before implimenting any sweeping changes. Please come and help us decide. Thanks! LA (T) @ 22:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


I was just wondering if the logo of our Wikiproject could be changed, becuase the current one (below) seems a little outdated to me.--Leolisa1997 (talk) 11:20, 16 August 2008 (UTC) Afwp2 actual.jpg

Sure. What do you think we should do? I can do a little photoshop work, possibly. IceUnshattered (talk) 15:10, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Of course it can be changed, someone just needs to make a new one and upload it. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 16:27, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Aren't you s'posed to be on WikiBreak, Calvin? :) Anyways, I might try. Any suggestions on what to put? IceUnshattered (talk) 16:31, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
1.) Not yet. In about 2.5 hours, I will be :) 2.) That's kind of the point of this discussion... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 16:37, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
I sort of like the old one, as it was simple and got the point over. LegoKontribsTalkM 19:16, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
I don't think that we should keep to the 'gold' background. I mean, can somebody actually get hold of the British covers and use that instead? I think that it would be better that way.--Leolisa1997 (talk) 10:53, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
That would probably violate copyright. This image is completely original. There's no need to change it.Fairfieldfencer FFF 11:26, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
I was considering the copyright. I suppose that we'll hve to stick with it unless someone can 'obtain' permission from everyone then use the British covers. Any other ideas?--Leolisa1997 (talk) 11:33, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

← No ideas here :( - I would suggest using PD images, though, otherwise copyright issues start popping up everywhere. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 02:42, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Actually Image:Artemis FowlUBX.png is up for deletion at the commons, as a copyvio. It probably will be deleted. LegoKontribsTalkM 22:19, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Exactly why we should use PD images in the new logo if possible :) Calvin 1998 (t-c) 01:24, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
How does Image:WPAFlogo4.png look?
LegoKontribsTalkM 07:24, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Suggestions: A little more contrast between words and the background/wreath, and put the "Artemis Fowl WikiProject" part above the "aurum potestas est" (est at the end seems to be more correct latin) Calvin 1998 (t-c) 15:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
I like that one, and I agree with Calvin 1998, so try putting contrast in the words. Suggestion: Change the background to something slightly brighter (dark blue?).--Leolisa1997 (talk) 01:40, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
New image is at Image:WPAFlogo5.png LegoKontribsTalkM 18:41, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Are we done, or do I still have time to comment :) ? Anyways, it looks great, but you might want to try sizing down the height of the blue text ("Artemis Fowl WikiProject") and possibly darken the blue of the background. Great job! I'm sorry I'm late, I was awaaay. IceUnshattered (talk) 23:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

← Note: just add revisions (overwrite) to Image:WPAFlogo5.png now instead of creating new files. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 21:55, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Articles needing cleanup[edit]

I got a bot to generate Wikipedia:WikiProject Artemis Fowl/Cleanup listing, for us. It shows what articles need clean up. LegoKontribsTalkM 22:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I suppose we should start with the TOP importance ones then. Such a coincidence that the first is Artemis Fowl: The Arctic Incident :) - why don't we try to get it up to WP:GA? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:46, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


School started again, and I have a very full schedule. It will be a rare chance if I get on Wikipedia. Oh well. Guess I'll go into withdrawal. =(  Laptopdude  Talk  01:07, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Noooo! -hugs Laptopdude- Anyways, I understand. Hope you'll be able to catch a few minutes here and there! IceUnshattered [ t ] 02:02, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I got school too. Bad news. Probarly catch up her and there. Don't worry if I go inactive. Don't withdraw me from WP:AF--Leolisa1997 (talk) 11:52, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
/me has school too :( I won't be as active as I would like to be. LegoKontribsTalkM 05:26, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Nuuu, it's all of you! And me, too, starting in September. IceUnshattered [ t ] 14:16, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I'll still be active.Fairfieldfencer FFF 16:40, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to have to be not-so-active as well... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 21:11, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

My recent uploads[edit]

If you haven't already realized, I recently uploaded a couple scans of characters out of Artemis Fowl: The Graphic Novel. (Image:HollyMediumCloseup.png, Image:ButlerCloseup.png, Image:ArtemisMediumCloseup.png). If you need/want any other images, just ask me. I can provide images of pretty much anything mentioned in Artemis Fowl (novel). Calvin 1998 (t·c) 05:40, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I am assuming then, that you have the novel? LegoKontribsTalkM 04:10, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
The graphic novel, yes. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 04:45, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
If you care, I have pictures of the following: Angeline Fowl, Butler (closeup), Foaly (closeup), Fowl Manor, Juliet (medium long shot, next to Butler), and two of a troll. I could possibly scan in some more if you need them. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 04:50, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

AFC interview[edit]

The latest interview has been released. [4] LegoKontribsTalkM 03:27, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Nice... you wouldn't happen to have a link to that Bloomberg interview video mentioned in there, would you? And there is a ton of information in there, it's going to take quite a bit of time to update all the articles. To sum it all up:
  • Work on second graphic novel is in drawing stages
  • Arctic Incident is Colfer's favorite book in the series
  • Minerva being left out is now a valid topic to include in Time Paradox
  • Juliet is being considered to be included in next one as a bodyguard to the twins
  • Movie script still being written, filming in 2009 possible
  • Quote about next book's plot: "Well, the basic plan is that Opal Koboi is in prison in Atlantis and somehow Artemis ends up in there with her. I kind of want to bring Artemis back to being a villain..."
  • Opal is probably not going to die in book 7
Calvin 1998 (t·c) 03:40, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Found it, [5] (mp3) LegoKontribsTalkM 03:59, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
I managed to secure some time away from HW to read the interview a minute ago, and I'm listening to the interview now. I think all that info is pretty useful, and that info about Juliet might be useful to throw in into her bio. I'm not totally sure about AI being Colfer's favorite book, though, I wouldn't put it in, but I'm glad it was put up. Not being a real AF fan, I didn't see the interview. Thanks for throwing it up, Lego. IceUnshattered [ t ] 20:07, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


Artemis Fowl (series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been selected for Release version 0.7. It currently is C-class. Lets get it up to GA! LegoKontribsTalkM 20:24, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

That's far easier said than done... first, let's get a draft version up, shall we? Where shall we put it? WikiProject-subpage, someone's user-space, subpage of the article? Calvin 1998 (t·c) 20:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
That was unexpected... Well, I think WikiProject sub-page would be appropriate, but I'm not against making a article sub or user sub. Icy's going to have to leave the meteorology articles for now. What should we do for the series page? IceUnshattered [ t ] 20:33, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm for a total ground-up rewrite, hence why I suggested a draft page. The current format and content of the article is, well, rather disappointing. It's missing some crucial topics (critical reception, themes, etc.) Anyone know of any series pages to use as inspiration? Calvin 1998 (t·c) 20:36, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
you can use my user sub page if you want to, The Link is WP: Artemis Fowl Series (Draft) Cdmajavatalk 
Hm... in order to prevent any WP:OWN, I propose either Artemis Fowl (series)/Draft, or Wikipedia:WikiProject Artemis Fowl/Artemis Fowl (series) draft (which seems slightly awkward to me). Not having the page in WP: space also means other editors would be more welcome to edit, which is a pretty good thing... Calvin 1998 (t·c) 20:47, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
The page is my user subpage, the page is just titled that, so I can keep my links straight, and to keep it in the WP: AF scope. Cdmajavatalk 
editconflict...Ummm...I don't know ^^. Just use Artemis Fowl (series)/Draft, I suppose. I think the "series overview" in the Harry Potter page might be a nice addition, just as a place to follow the general storyline. Most good series pages I've seen have a reception/awards page... And of course, I would do some cleanup on the characters section. I like the "Other Media in the Warriors (novel series) page, though all we really have is the graphic novel and the never-ever-ever-to-come film :). Yeah. Just rambling. IceUnshattered [ t ] 20:54, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Now that we have a draft page, let the discussion continue at Talk:Artemis Fowl (series)/Draft... Calvin 1998 (t·c) 20:57, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

←Should we keep the main character section? The minor part should go. LegoKontribsTalkM 05:58, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, keep the main character. Leave out the minor's, though. IceUnshattered [ t ] 00:45, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

The Butler brigade[edit]

I propose that we make a group of editors dedicated to protecting the articles from vandalism, (similar to that of a Task Force), and since the group is dedicated to protecting, I figured we'd call it the Butler brigade. What do you think?Fairfieldfencer FFF 15:37, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I personally think that they're well enough protected already... Calvin 1998 (t·c) 02:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
We are a bit small to be thinking of task forces. LegoKontribsTalkM 03:19, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
That too :) - what do we have, something like 4-6 active members? Calvin 1998 (t·c) 04:49, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
True. I'll just leave this idea at the Artemis Fowl wiki.Fairfieldfencer FFF 09:05, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Articles on fiction[edit]

Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction). Just a heads up. it seems to me that a lot of people editing the newer articles don't seem to get the point (basically, that an article should not focus on the plot, but on the book itself). Calvin 1998 (t·c) 05:43, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

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... that gives us until Oct. 20 to get the article ready. Better hurry up :/ Calvin 1998 (t·c) 17:37, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
... I just noticed that Artemis Fowl (novel) has also been selected. It could use some cleanup as well. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 17:39, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Centaurian & The Eternity Code[edit]

These pages need to be created and the decoded codes put on. SO far, centaurian and the Eternity Code (script) all go to this page, which is of no use if you are looking for the actual code. Can someone help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:40, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, according to the editing guideline Wikipedia:Writing about fiction, we should not be focusing on little things like that but rather focus on the literary and public faces of the subject. You might want to see the Artemis Fowl Wiki for things like that. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 14:44, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Spoken Articles[edit]

I'm currently doing spoken articles of all the pages within Wikiproject:Artemis Fowl, but there is a lot to do, so I thought I would put a suggestion/request to have somebody else help with the articles? I've done Holly already.--Leolisa1997 13:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Huh...listened to the beginning. Is there any way to improve the quality? I think it gets better later on, but it's an issue, IMHO. Ehh...I don't think you have to say "Section <insert #>", just emphasize the titles. IceUnshattered [ t ] 21:15, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Just thought I'd acknowledge that I've read this post :) - I don't have time to listen to it now, I should get back with a reply sometime in the next couple of hours. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 02:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
By the way, what application(s) did you use to create the recording/ogg file? Calvin 1998 (t·c) 02:54, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I made my own recording (using TextEdit's "Speech" feature for the voice generation and GarageBand for editing/encoding) of the same article with a couple modifications. See it and the source here. There is a detailed description of how I went about doing it here. I'm afraid it won't make sense unless you're a Mac user, though. Feedback? Criticism? Problems? Suggestions? Calvin 1998 (t·c) 06:32, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I've converted it to .ogg and uploaded it over Image:Holly Short.ogg. The versions do not match, so please base feedback on the uploaded .ogg. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 21:21, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for that, plus I don't think the original did much good. Anyway, I haven't got time to listen to the new one, so I will just assume it sounds good.--Leolisa1997 03:45, 22 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leolisa1997 (talkcontribs)

AfD nomination of List of objects in Artemis Fowl[edit]

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An article that you have been involved in editing, List of objects in Artemis Fowl, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of objects in Artemis Fowl. Thank you. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:12, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 06:23, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

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WP:AF redirect[edit]

Hey guys, just dropping in quickly to tell you that someone wants to change the target of our redirect page I mentioned in the title. Their reason is to use it for another project that gets more attention and users than ours does. Personally I don't see any problem with it since we also have WP:FOWL. (See the entry on the redirects for deletion project page.)  Laptopdude  Talk  21:34, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Also, in response to the role call, I am definitely still interested in the project, but I've had too much homework to actually help with anything. After school is over again I would be happy to become active again.  Laptopdude  Talk  21:37, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
I've used AWB to change most WP:AF links to point to WP:FOWL instead. I missed some (and missed WT:AF entirely), and now I can't remember the regex I used, so if someone could finish for me... it would be appreciated. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 03:14, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Finished as someone pointed out my idiotic mistake :) (Wikipedia:AF and Wikipedia talk:AF not yet done). Calvin 1998 (t·c) 01:41, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


I've been thinking about WP:WAF, and I my interpretation of it is that all our character pages (and much of the book pages, "object" pages, concept pages, etc.) are in a in-universe way. These really should be stubbed, merged away, or deleted. I really think that the only thing proper to talk about in these articles is press about the books, etc. Thoughts? Calvin 1998 (t·c) 02:44, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Yep, I sort of agree with you. I've got serious doubts that some of the individual character pages are notable. I don't know about things like The Lower Elements, Minerva Paradizo, Lower Elements Police ... However, stuff like this I really don't think deserve their own pages. Meh. Icy // 19:28, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Merged with this per this. Honestly, anything not mentioned out of the books should go... Calvin 1998 (t·c) 04:39, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


Apologies for the notice, but this is being posted to every WikiProject to avoid accusations of systemic bias. Hiding T 13:26, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


What should we do about the "code" sections (example). These can't be sourced, and the only site I have found translating them is this one. LegoKontribsTalkM 01:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I would personally go with removing them, as they have no sources, and it goes against the grain of WP:WAF. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 02:07, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
I can't seem to see how these represent an essential/important part of any book, and as they can't be sourced, the best option is removal, I suppose. Maybe a minor mention elsewhere...? iceunshatteredPublic! 15:16, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

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Portal:Artemis Fowl[edit]

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The portal can also be userfied, if anyone's interested. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 01:26, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

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Hmm... I don't think this WikiProject has any BLPs ... :) Calvin 1998 (t·c) 17:09, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
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Draft construction?[edit]


What happened? When will the draft replace the article? Aside from some errors, the draft is better than the bulky article (which is really a gigantic list in disguise). Please don't tell me that the draft is going to sit on the backwaters of cyberspace for the rest of eternity. Thanks. Rotideypoc41352 (talk) 06:35, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Be bold and go for it! I'll look at a little later today and see what I can try and do. LegoKontribsTalkM 16:58, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice. I went ahead and did so. Rotideypoc41352 (talk) 23:25, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Is the draft still necessary? It has been implemented, edits are being made on the article, and the draft seems to be inactive. Should the draft be deleted and the link removed from the series article? Rotideypoc41352 (talk) 02:06, 5 November 2011 (UTC)