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Article improvement
[edit]I feel, one of the key article of this wikiproject, Automotive engineering needs a good revision and copy edit. I would love to help in the process as much as viable. Being a civil engineering student I am unknown of some key terms. In addition, i see the need of forming a new article Automobile engineering much famous in South asian countries including Nepal and India to flourish the information regarding the subject and make the area of study open to fellow readers.Franked2004 (talk)
Confusion/problem between a handful of pages on tax/registration/licensing
[edit]I think we have a problem with a collection of pages:
- Road tax
- Vehicle licence
- Vehicle registration certificate
- Motor vehicle registration
- Motor vehicle type approval
Some helpful perspective, I'm from the UK so I am familiar with the UK system. We have what is technically called vehicle excise duty but is commonly referred to as "road tax" or "vehicle tax".
- It is mentioned on Road tax#United Kingdom.
- It is now a fully digital system, however it formerly used a physical "tax disc" you displayed on your windscreen, which is the first image on the page Vehicle licence.
When you come into possession of a vehicle/when a vehicle's ownership details change, you register/update the registration of the vehicle. This information is stored in the V5C ("logbook") and the DVLA database.
- This process is mentioned on Vehicle registration certificate#United Kingdom
That's where the first problem arises, because these are two separate processes, yet on the page Vehicle licence (which displays an image of the old tax discs), it's claiming this is called "Vehicle registration certificate", linking to that page.
Our second problem comes in the form of the Motor vehicle registration, which it claims is something "different from motor vehicle licensing and roadworthiness certification."
- The image is of US (California) annual motor vehicle registration stickers. I may be wrong here, but I think this is probably comparable to "road tax" in the UK. An annual fee paid to the government to allow a particular vehicle to be used on the road for that duration.
- Whereas for the UK it goes on to talk about "type approval" system of the UK, which seems like it would fit better in the Motor vehicle type approval page, and seems different from the US registration stickers.
Granted, I am only closely familiar with the UK system, however the fact that these pages seem incredibly muddled with regards to UK information on them, makes me suspect there may also be some muddling with other regions too, and it would seem like we have five pages for three topics.
Specifically, "Road tax" and "Vehicle license" appear to largely refer to the same thing, and "Vehicle registration certificate" and "Motor vehicle registration" appear to largely refer to the same thing.
This doesn't seem to be a simple "merge two pages" situation given that the information on each given page appears to be a jumble between the topics however, so I would appreciate some input from more experienced editors (and people more intimately familiar with these systems in other countries). ~2026-86916-9 (talk) 20:40, 7 March 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, it is tough - en.wp is sort of the global WP, so we have to incorporate a lot of content. Often, several articles are haphazardly merged. The question is if we should have three articles (tax, licensing system, homologation and approval) or articles on each country's situation. Or both. Are there enough interested editors to make it happen? Is there anyone with a full overview of these items who can direct it all? Sorry I don't have any answers myself. Mr.choppers | ✎ 10:41, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
1966 Cannara I photo request
[edit]I've added Ray Cannara's 1966 wedge car to the photo requests page. I wouldn't normally post about it on this talk page, but I found out that the car is currently on display at the Petersen Automotive Museum in Los Angeles as part of their wedge exhibit until September of 2026. If anyone lives in the area it might be a good opportunity to get a free image. Who knows when it will next be publicly available after the exhibit ends. It may be a good idea to check in advance if it's on display as it's possible they move it sometimes. Being one of the first true wedge cars it would be great to include a picture in an article (and I've started working on one).
I'm looking forward to contributing to this project more! Feel free to point me in a direction if there's a way for me to get more involved aside from writing and editing articles. Thanks! dylansan (talk) 00:05, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
I've added a full list of the all-time best-selling automobiles to the List of best-selling automobiles, which I'm surprised hasn't been made already. If anyone wants to make any changes to it go ahead. 750h+ 15:17, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
JMC Teshun versus European Ford Transit mk5
[edit]what are the differences ~2026-21531-30 (talk) 03:50, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
RFC for magazine announcements before manufacturer annoucements
[edit]See Talk:Chevrolet_Camaro#Request_for_Comment_on_whether_a_WikiProject_guideline_takes_precedence_over_Wikipedia_Policy . Concerned about whether WP:CRYSTAL allows us to use magazine announcements as references when the manufacturer has not yet made an announcement. Please leave comments there. Stepho talk 07:28, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
- If the magazine is routinely trash, it can be blacklisted by Wikipedia. Quite a few non-car related publications are blacklisted by Wikipedia. Vanguard10 (talk) 16:20, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
Strong oppose - Keep the policy at WP:AUTOCONV#Unannounced vehicles. Car magazines/websites/social media thrive on speculation for sales and clicks. I'd rather not see Wikipedia sink to that level, including adding info about the speculation itself. --Vossanova o< 17:02, 15 April 2026 (UTC)I apparently can't read; I've added a comment to the Chevrolet Camaro talk page as suggested. --Vossanova o< 00:42, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
How to improve glossaries
[edit]There are a handful of articles that I'm aware of that act as glossaries about automotive design and engineering:
- Glossary of automotive terms (mainly about parts of cars and technical concepts)
- Glossary of automotive design (about visible aspects of car design)
- Car body style (about body types)
There is a small amount of overlap, mainly in the first two, for things like the hood and trunk, wheelbase, etc. A large portion of the content is completely unsourced. And some terms, especially in the design article, are incorrect or confusing (see batsmans crease). The latter two also include an image for every term, and I'm not sure if that's typical or excessive. I had planned to improve these articles by adding sources and making corrections, but with so much material, it would be a long-term effort (hopefully not just by me). I'm also not sure if these three articles are the best way to organize this information, though it seems alright now that I've looked through more.
Rather than waste my time, or make major changes without discussion, I wanted to get some input on how to best improve these articles. Given the amount of unsourced material, is it worth keeping all three? If not, how should they be organized, and if so, should the design glossary be linked to from more places, perhaps a navbox? If I use a handful of books as references for the majority of entries, would that constitute a copyright issue (even if the terms are defined in my own words)? Including a large portion of words from an existing glossary seems both concerning and also completely expected given these are all real, relevant words to the industry.
There is also Automotive acronyms and abbreviations and Car classification which have some overlap with the other mentioned articles, and don't have a lot of inline citations, though they do mostly link to other articles which are sourced. The former has been discussed for being unencyclopedic and is not linked to from many places. dylansan (talk) 14:05, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
- I've linked here from Wikipedia:Help desk#Improving glossaries where I asked some broader questions about glossaries in general dylansan (talk) 18:36, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
- Glossary of automotive terms is mostly fine.
- Car body style is mostly fine.
- Glossary of automotive design seems to be mostly repeating the other 2.
- I would keep the terms article and the body style article. I would delete the design article altogether (but first copying anything unique in it to the other 2). Stepho talk 00:02, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
- Batman's crease is hilarious. The batman's crease is the line in front of the wicket that the batman must stand behind. Nothing to do with the bat at all. Body in white is a complete mess as well. However I think the design one is good in that it has a photo of most of the features, not having that would be like having a written description of a painting without a photo. Greglocock (talk) 00:12, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Fangchengbao Bao 5
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An editor has requested that Fangchengbao Bao 5 be moved to Denza B5, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. S5A-0043🚎(Talk) 12:57, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
Unlock page proposal
[edit]In my opinion i think the Cadillac article locking should be reduced, Since the amount of vandalism/disruptive editing i've seen is minimum. So, i dont think the article should stay locked for longer. ~2026-23308-13 (talk) 14:42, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
- If you think the protection for the article should be lowered, you can make a request at WP:RFPU. That being said the article is only semi-protected so if you register an account, wait 4 days and make 10 constructive edits (for example don't spam edits on your userpage) you can go on to edit as per normal, or you can make an edit request at the talk page. S5A-0043🚎(Talk) 13:06, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- Ok thanks i will maybe make a account onwards and edit on locked pages.~2026-23308-13 (talk) 15:58, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
Chevrolet SSR Article Correction
[edit]Hello! My name is Studmuffin,
and I am one of the leading experts on Chevrolet SSR history and documentation. I was browsing Wikipedia and could not help but notice that much of the information for this article, happens to be either wildly incomplete, or simply straight incorrect. (Example being the final VIN is 6B124112, I've personally been to the GM Heritage Center collection to confirm the VIN tag for 6B124112 and 3B000001, (Chevrolet SSR #1.) I have no idea where 26138 came from, as only 24180 SSR's were ever produced, including test mules.)
I would like to (mostly) overhaul this article with correct known information from my SSRFanatics community,
and to make it significantly more complete.
(Also there is zero information anywhere
for the 1999 Chevrolet SSR Concept...)
As a wary keeper on my home Forum, I know there are rules and guidelines to follow, and I'm not blind to Wikipedia having the same, (and likely significantly more strict) guidelines. I want to make sure I jump through the right hoops for Wikipedia standards without stepping on any toes before I go in changing things all at once.
Would there by chance be any Wikipedia ambassadors (who know specific rules more than I would) that I would be able to check in with, and who wouldn't undo any edits back to incorrect information, but who could make sure I don't unintentionally cross any obscure line I don't know exists, during the editing process...?
I want to do this the right way with open communication.
Any assistance would be helpful, I would love to have this incorrect information be corrected.
Please and thank you in advance! Studmuffin.SSRLegacy (talk) 07:07, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- The major thing to look for is that every fact should have a supporting reference from a reliable third party source. See WP:FACT, WP:V and RS. In the early days we didn't have these policies and a lot of mistakes (or outright vandalism) crept in. Now that the larger group has been notified, it would be best to discuss the details at talk:Chevrolet SSR. Interested editors can follow it there. Stepho talk 07:39, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- This is exactly the kind of guideline I was expecting to find.
- There is no intent for vandalism,
- only the representation of the truth.
- I understand the assignment,
- and will seek to provide this information
- readily when necessary.
- Thank you. Studmuffin.SSRLegacy (talk) 15:17, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Nokian Tyres
[edit]Nokian Tyres has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 02:46, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
FYI - there is a discussion on Commons about the "Mini" category there
[edit]I've just noticed that the name of the Commons category "Mini" (related to our Wikipedia "Mini" article) is being discussed here on Commons if you are interested in contributing. -- DeFacto (talk). 18:15, 8 May 2026 (UTC)