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All astronaut bios[edit]

Is there consensus that (presumtively) all biography articles about individual astronauts are within the scope of this task force? Does that imply all talk pages associated with articles that transclude {{Infobox Astronaut}} should be marked with {{WPAVIATION}} with "Biography=yes"? (sdsds - talk) 18:56, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I think that that's safe to say. If you wish add the banner, go for it. If there are any objections they would arise on a page by page basis. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 19:11, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
All those articles should also include {{HSF Project}} (talk) 15:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Now the HSF banner is deprecated; please use {{WikiProject Spaceflight}}.. thanks. Mlm42 (talk) 20:04, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Article creation assistance[edit]

There's a new template Template:WPAVIATION creator that can be used to assist in creating new articles. It will start things off by creating a page with all the standard information/headers/infoboxes, etc. You just have to fill in the blanks and save. It's still in the early design stages, so check it out and let me know how it can be improved. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 22:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Juan Pablo Aldasoro[edit]

I plan to rename the subject article to Aldasoro brothers and to create redirects to the individual brothers, Aldasoro and Eduardo Aldasoro Suárez, similar to Wright brothers and Boland brothers. This seems the best way to handle these two inseparable brothers. Any other ideas? - Canglesea (talk) 20:48, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

That sounds like a good plan. We'll end up with two redirects pointing to the same article, which is as it should be for now. If at some later point someone wants to write an entire article about one or the other, they can easily replace the redirect with their article text. Note however that a google search shows there is another pair of "Aldasoro Brothers" in Telluride, Colorado, and google finds more references to them than to Juan Pablo and Eduardo. (sdsds - talk) 21:01, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Marianne Merchez[edit]

Should the Marianne Merchez article be tagged with WPAVIATION|biography=yes? She is licensed as a pilot, and was trained as an astronaut, and the page uses the astronaut infobox template, but she never flew in space. Where do we want to draw the line for cases like this? (sdsds - talk) 21:17, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Yes check.svg Done The biography tag includes everyone from earth-bound aeronautical engineers. to pilots, and astronauts. - Canglesea (talk) 03:18, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Initial Aerospace Biography Tagging[edit]

I've completed review and tagging of Biography articles in the Category:Aviation articles with no associated task force. Thanks to Trevor and others for their help as well. Our current count of 2,300+ biography articles should be fairly accurate now. I will review the Military aviation/biography lists to pick up a few more. - Canglesea (talk) 18:41, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Frederick George Miles[edit]

Miles was tagged as an aircraft project and I have just changed it it Biography as more appropriate, it is start class does the class stay the same with changing the sub-project? Thanks MilborneOne (talk) 19:10, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the class stays the same. I have added the B/C Class checklist; it needs a better lead section, infobox, and better citations to be promoted to C or B class. Thanks, - Canglesea (talk) 00:04, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Aerospace biography[edit]

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I have reviewed the articles and improved them to at least a C-class assessment. - Canglesea (talk) 04:46, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
I have recorded the link for the 'best' version for each article available today. If anyone has some free time, Howard Hughes is the most problematic article on the list. - Canglesea (talk) 21:47, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

English aviators[edit]

I have been improving and adding info to some RAF officers and where appropriate adding the cat Category:English aviators. User:Kernel Saunters has removed it from Jeaffreson Greswell and added Category:Royal Air Force personnel of World War II and Category:British World War II pilots. As the later is a child category of British aviators Kernel Saunters says the it is absolutely pointless to list every English born pilot who served in the RAF in a general category as english aviators particularly when the RAF was British. Any thoughts, if english aviators is not for english aviators what is it for? Thanks MilborneOne (talk) 22:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Ronnie Nader[edit]

I've taken the liberty to tag Ronnie Nader of Ecuador to this task force after I had to protect the article due to edit warring over a lot of things starting from whether he should be considered an astronaut, a space tourist or what else.--Tikiwont (talk) 09:36, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

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WikiProject Biography[edit]

Since this task force exists, shouldn't a switch be implemented at {{WPBIO}} for aerospace? (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC).

Article for deletion[edit]

For information article on test pilot Richard E. Gray has been nominated for deletion. MilborneOne (talk) 17:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

GA Sweeps invitation[edit]

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Category:Female aviators[edit]

I have a suggestion... subcategorize this with Category:Female air force pilots and Category:Female aces. (talk) 08:25, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

File:Space Barnstar Idea 1.png[edit]

File:Space Barnstar Idea 1.png has been nominated for deletion. (talk) 05:14, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


File:Barnstar-shooting-star.png has been nominated for deletion. (talk) 05:18, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Neil Armstrong GAR notice[edit]

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Neil Armstrong needs help[edit]

As we near the 40th anniversary of Apollo 11, the article on Neil Armstrong could use just a little work.

  1. Someone has tagged a few sentences "citation needed" - it would be great to get those cleaned-up.
  2. There seems to be a small discrepancy between Apollo 11 and Neil Armstrong concerning how much fuel the lunar lander had for landing.

Thanks for your help, JMG (talk) 07:30, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Project participation[edit]

There is a discussion and poll about project participation going on here. Please take a look and share your opinions. - Trevor MacInnis contribs 22:46, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Aviation contest[edit]


As many of you are aware from the invitations I sent out, there is a new contest starting in the Aviation project. If I somehow missed you, check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Contest. I created this contest for, what is provisionally titled The Peter M. Bowers International Award For Meritorious Service in the Pursuit of Aviation Knowledge or PeMBoInAwMeSPAK, with the aim to motivate increased quality in aviation articles and improve participation in the Aviation WikiProject by offering a form of friendly competition for project members. We already have 20 members signed up, if you would like to take part you can sign up here, read up on the rules here, and discuss the contest here. The first round of the competition will start soon; if you can't take part, come out and help the competitors by assisting in their peer reviews, article promotions, etc. Hope to see you there! - Trevor MacInnis contribs 19:03, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Featured article candidacy of Joe Hewitt (RAAF officer) now open[edit]

The FAC for Joe Hewitt (RAAF officer) is now open; all editors are invited to participate, and any input there would be appreciated! Thanks! - Trevor MacInnis contribs 17:31, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement[edit]

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Georgia (U.S. state)/New Georgia Encyclopedia/Charles Lindbergh[edit]

The New Georgia Encyclopedia ("NGE") has authorized Wikipedia to import and/or merge eleven articles, which I have copied to project space; one of these is Wikipedia:WikiProject Georgia (U.S. state)/New Georgia Encyclopedia/Charles Lindbergh (which focuses on Lindbergh's associations with Georgia).

If we are able to do a professional job of moving/merging these article into mainspace, the NGE will likely permit us to import their remaining body of over 2,200 well-researched and well-written articles, which could pioneer a trend for other private owners of encyclopedic content to release their materials into our corpus. I would deeply appreciate any help that we can muster in accomplishing this. Please note that the original NGE article (linked in the required attribution section of the above article in project space) has images, but NGE is unable to convey those to us at this time, as they are individually licensed by NGE. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Swoose Snead[edit]

I just found the Swoose Snead article, which is in dire need of help. It reads as if it were copied from an unofficial Navy or company bio, but has absolutely no souces. Also, we usually don't title bio articles by informal nicknames; even Kelly Johnson's bio is at his given name, Clarence Johnson. Any help with this article would be appreciated. - BilCat (talk) 21:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

The article appers to be a partial copyvio of this site, which site is copyrighted to Joel Jacobs, who is credited as writing the bio. There is an obituary from Wings of Gold here, which is probably usable as a reliable source. The article was uploaded by User:Cpheisey1 as his only edit, and appears to be Philip Heisey, Snead's son-in-law. - BilCat (talk) 22:01, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Request: Robert DeHaven[edit]

DeHaven was a WWII ace, credited with 10 kills. He later became Howard Hughes' personal pilot and an executive of the Hughes Company. Sources include Fire In The Sky: The Air War In The South Pacific ISBN 9780813338699.   Will Beback  talk  00:56, 11 October 2010 (UTC)


Is this task force inactive? I've put a tag on it, since it appears to be.. feel free to remove it, if I'm mistaken. Mlm42 (talk) 17:32, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Douglas Bader/GA1[edit]

Douglas Bader is being reviewed for GA listing. It has been put on hold for an initial 14 days to allow issues such as prose, inline citing and detailed coverage to be addressed. SilkTork *YES! 16:36, 27 December 2010 (UTC)


All opinions welcome. Thank you. walk victor falk talk 18:10, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Out of uniform[edit]

Can we get uniform treatment of military bios? I've seen pages started with final rank & with no rank. (I default to no rank, since they weren't born with it.) I'm raising the issue here, also, but suggest it be discussed here, because this would appear to be the "lead project". (Also, I don't anticipate adding anythng further. ;p ) TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 16:48 & 16:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

This project would normally defer to Military History project as the lead project on such matters. MilborneOne (talk) 17:13, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Pageview stats[edit]

After a recent request, I added WikiProject Aviation/Aerospace biography task force to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Aerospace biography task force/Popular pages.

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Tadeusz Wrona (aviator)[edit]

A discussion regarding Tadeusz Wrona (aviator), the pilot involved in LOT Polish Airlines Flight 16 is taking place at Talk:LOT Polish Airlines Flight 16#Merge proposal. If anyone has any comments on this proposal, your input is of course welcomed. Russavia Let's dialogue 21:24, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Commons Aviation Wikiproject[edit]

Several editors have decided to start a Commons Aviation WikiProject which is going to be devoted to aviation-related content on Commons; Commons:Commons:WikiProject_Aviation. Some of the main tasks for the project include maintaining and sorting aviation content, as well as working on obtaining permission from photographers to upload their photos to Commons, in addition to working on introducing photographers to Commons to get them to upload photos directly to Commons. There is a discussion at Commons:Commons_talk:WikiProject_Aviation at which we are trying to ascertain what the needs of the community-at-large are, so please feel free to join in the discussion. Also, if there are any project members who are willing to do some translation work for us that would be great. See Commons:Commons_talk:WikiProject_Aviation#Translations for more info. Also, anyone with scripting knowledge would be welcome, as there are some ideas which would require such expertise. Look forward to hearing from project members over on Commons with any ideas, etc. Please feel free to translate this message as needed. Cheers, Y u no be Russavia ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) 14:23, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Human height[edit]

Just seeking a wider range of input from informed persons at Template_talk:Height#rfc_97AACED.--Gibson Flying V (talk) 01:20, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Popular pages tool update[edit]

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I see somebody has flagged the task force as inactive, just to say I am still here! MilborneOne (talk) 13:14, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Article assessment for B-class[edit]

Can a regular contributor to this sub-project have a crack at some of the 7,400 odd articles requiring B-class assessment (mostly airlines and biography) ((I have done most of the rest))--Petebutt (talk) 11:20, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

astronaut physical description section[edit]

I noticed a few had this and it seems strange to me... what is the point of this? I can understand height and weight being of interest, but eye color and hair color? Why is that important? МандичкаYO 😜 15:01, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Aha! @Wikimandia: I came here about that too. An IP editor in Serbia has been adding them like here to Scott Carpenter. At least 6 IPs, obviously the same editor are involved, I also brought related issues up here at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spaceflight. At least they are sourced. 220 of Borg 15:23, 14 July 2015 (UTC)